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Thread started 07/19/06 9:47pm

ccollin88

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why is PRINCE considered the greatest of all time ?

Why is it that Prince is considered the greatest when he not even the best in Minneapolis?

Every real musician knows JAM & LEWIS run minneapolis...I was told that if you ask most local musicians who is the musician you would most like to work with and over 86% said JAM & LEWIS NOT PRINCE!
for one,Prince started in 1978 jam and lewis 84 but to date they have 36 more top ten R&b and pop hits than PRINCE and he had a six year head start! and to boot they have released over 200 more songs than PRince meaning they are more prolific

don't you think JAM AND LEWIS should be worshiped more than SHORTY PIPPEN?

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Reply #1 posted 07/19/06 9:49pm

jonylawson

OH one of these threads?

do you prefer MARMALADE or JAM on your toast?
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Reply #2 posted 07/19/06 10:04pm

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jonylawson said:

OH one of these threads?

do you prefer MARMALADE or JAM on your toast?

I PREFER hits!
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Reply #3 posted 07/19/06 10:08pm

jonylawson

D D D DANG!!! we all dig a hit! biggrin
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Reply #4 posted 07/19/06 10:18pm

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ccollin88 said:

Why is it that Prince is considered the greatest when he not even the best in Minneapolis?

Every real musician knows JAM & LEWIS run minneapolis...I was told that if you ask most local musicians who is the musician you would most like to work with and over 86% said JAM & LEWIS NOT PRINCE!
for one,Prince started in 1978 jam and lewis 84 but to date they have 36 more top ten R&b and pop hits than PRINCE and he had a six year head start! and to boot they have released over 200 more songs than PRince meaning they are more prolific

don't you think JAM AND LEWIS should be worshiped more than SHORTY PIPPEN?


First of all, who gives a crap about "hits". Second of all, you don't know how much unreleased stuff Prince has so you can't really say J&L were more prolific... oh and they are two cats and Prince is just one wink
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Reply #5 posted 07/20/06 12:09am

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Reply #6 posted 07/20/06 12:19am

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heart collin heart
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Reply #7 posted 07/20/06 12:36am

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FuNkeNsteiN said:

ccollin88 said:

Why is it that Prince is considered the greatest when he not even the best in Minneapolis?

Every real musician knows JAM & LEWIS run minneapolis...I was told that if you ask most local musicians who is the musician you would most like to work with and over 86% said JAM & LEWIS NOT PRINCE!
for one,Prince started in 1978 jam and lewis 84 but to date they have 36 more top ten R&b and pop hits than PRINCE and he had a six year head start! and to boot they have released over 200 more songs than PRince meaning they are more prolific

don't you think JAM AND LEWIS should be worshiped more than SHORTY PIPPEN?


First of all, who gives a crap about "hits". Second of all, you don't know how much unreleased stuff Prince has so you can't really say J&L were more prolific... oh and they are two cats and Prince is just one wink


AND ...U ALL MAKE IT SEEM LIKE PRINCE IS SUPER HUMAN...YOU KNOW THEERE IS A REASON ITS UNRELEASED DUHHHHH...IT SUCKED! biggrin
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Reply #8 posted 07/20/06 12:38am

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NAME ME 1 PRINCE UNRELEASED SONG THAT WENT #1? biggrin
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Reply #9 posted 07/20/06 12:41am

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time to make some roasted pumpkin ravioli in a butter, lemon and basil sauce...

all organic - of course.

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Reply #10 posted 07/20/06 1:17am

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whatever...jam and lewis will tell u themselves that prince schooled them on lots of stuff...and they have both said he's the most talented cat they ever met...please !!!??? rolleyes
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Reply #11 posted 07/20/06 2:04am

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ccollin88 said:

NAME ME 1 PRINCE UNRELEASED SONG THAT WENT #1? biggrin


Name 1 "Jam & Lewis"...
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Reply #12 posted 07/20/06 3:06am

sacredwarrior

collin honey i got a question 4 u if you dont mind...

are u some kinda spin off of one of p's fractured personalities manifestin as a cyber pod detonatin a hand grenade to see if you still get the nod from your audience?
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Reply #13 posted 07/20/06 6:21am

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prettymansson said:

whatever...jam and lewis will tell u themselves that prince schooled them on lots of stuff...and they have both said he's the most talented cat they ever met...please !!!??? rolleyes

THERE ARE MANY INSTANCES WHERE THE STUDENT SURPASSES THE TEACHER IN LIFE....THIS ONE biggrin
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Reply #14 posted 07/20/06 6:32am

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Jam and Lewis are behind the scenes remember. They aren't singing; others sing for them. Prince writes his own material, puts music to it, and sings it. Not to mention doing the same as Jam and Lewis -- writing songs for others. Plus, I don't know of anyone who remakes any of Jam and Lewis' material as much as Prince's ... and you have to ask why Prince is considered the greatest of all time? confused
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Reply #15 posted 07/20/06 6:40am

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Another episode of ccollin88's "Let's Create a Thread Just for The Bait of It."
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Reply #16 posted 07/20/06 7:00am

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It's according to what your personal definition of the word "great" is. Does your definition mean talentwise or does it mean the ability to get a hit. We all know it takes no talent to get a hit these days. Just look at all the no talent shit hop that has made it onto the charts these days by stealing the talented older artists' music and making it the background for their songs.

I define greatness as talent and Jam and Lewis have talent (too bad they don't use it any more) and they themselves have said that when they were taking lessons to learn to play different instruments, Prince could just pick the instrument up and play it with no lessons whatsoever.
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Reply #17 posted 07/20/06 7:04am

Graycap23

Collins88:Are u really a butt head in real life or u just play one on the ORG?
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Reply #18 posted 07/20/06 7:54am

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ccollin88 said:

NAME ME 1 PRINCE UNRELEASED SONG THAT WENT #1? biggrin

thats just silly,how can it hit number 1 if it is not released.but didnt adore hit number 1 on the r&b airplay charts without being released as a single...does that count
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Reply #19 posted 07/20/06 8:09am

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ccollin88-- Do yourself a favor. Put down the purple hatorade, pick up the phone, and call up Jimmy and Terry. Then, ask them who the greatest of all time is. They'll say "Prince". They've said it many times before in various interviews. Look it up.

Jimmy and Terry are talented for sure, but you seem like the kind of person who will desperately try to convince people that Jermaine Jackson is more talented than Michael just because you want to be "different".

We get it, you don't think Prince is all that. Again, it just seems like you are trying to start arguments rather than have real conversations. I am all for hearing your point of view, but you come off as very confrontational in your writing.

There is a difference between calling things the way you see them and flamebaiting.


PS. Jaime Foxx IS the new king of R&B. Just like Eddie Murphy was in 1985. Party all the time baby.

[Edited 7/20/06 8:11am]
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Reply #20 posted 07/20/06 8:15am

mrdespues

why are you considered such a....(insert appropriate derogatory term) ?



...because it's obvious, that's why



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Reply #21 posted 07/20/06 9:02am

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Reply #22 posted 07/20/06 9:02am

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vainandy said:

It's according to what your personal definition of the word "great" is. Does your definition mean talentwise or does it mean the ability to get a hit. We all know it takes no talent to get a hit these days. Just look at all the no talent shit hop that has made it onto the charts these days by stealing the talented older artists' music and making it the background for their songs.

I define greatness as talent and Jam and Lewis have talent (too bad they don't use it any more) and they themselves have said that when they were taking lessons to learn to play different instruments, Prince could just pick the instrument up and play it with no lessons whatsoever.

bullshit....yALL KILL ME WITH THIS PRINCE PICKS UP AN INSTRUMENT AND PLAYS IT SHIT.....THE DUDE PRACTICED HIS ASS OFF AS A TEEN BECAUSE HE WAS 4"9' TALL AND HE COULDNT PLAY SPORTS....SO WHAT DO MOST DWEEBS WHO CANT PLAY SPORTS DO.....PLAY MUSIC!
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Reply #23 posted 07/20/06 9:05am

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skywalker said:

ccollin88-- Do yourself a favor. Put down the purple hatorade, pick up the phone, and call up Jimmy and Terry. Then, ask them who the greatest of all time is. They'll say "Prince". They've said it many times before in various interviews. Look it up.

Jimmy and Terry are talented for sure, but you seem like the kind of person who will desperately try to convince people that Jermaine Jackson is more talented than Michael just because you want to be "different".

We get it, you don't think Prince is all that. Again, it just seems like you are trying to start arguments rather than have real conversations. I am all for hearing your point of view, but you come off as very confrontational in your writing.

There is a difference between calling things the way you see them and flamebaiting.


PS. Jaime Foxx IS the new king of R&B. Just like Eddie Murphy was in 1985. Party all the time baby.

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OF COURSE THEY GONNA SAY PRINCE....HE STARTED THEIR CAREER.ITS CALLED RESPECT....IN THEY MINDS THEY KNOW THEY HAVE LAPPED HIM 3 OR 4 TIMES MUSICALLY biggrin
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Reply #24 posted 07/20/06 9:06am

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Is Collin88.....BART?
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Reply #25 posted 07/20/06 9:12am

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OF COURSE THEY GONNA SAY PRINCE....HE STARTED THEIR CAREER.ITS CALLED RESPECT....IN THEY MINDS THEY KNOW THEY HAVE LAPPED HIM 3 OR 4 TIMES MUSICALLY biggrin


Wow! So you know what Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis are thinking? Oh, wait, you are just making shit up...again.
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Reply #26 posted 07/20/06 9:12am

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ccollin88 said:

vainandy said:

It's according to what your personal definition of the word "great" is. Does your definition mean talentwise or does it mean the ability to get a hit. We all know it takes no talent to get a hit these days. Just look at all the no talent shit hop that has made it onto the charts these days by stealing the talented older artists' music and making it the background for their songs.

I define greatness as talent and Jam and Lewis have talent (too bad they don't use it any more) and they themselves have said that when they were taking lessons to learn to play different instruments, Prince could just pick the instrument up and play it with no lessons whatsoever.

bullshit....yALL KILL ME WITH THIS PRINCE PICKS UP AN INSTRUMENT AND PLAYS IT SHIT.....THE DUDE PRACTICED HIS ASS OFF AS A TEEN BECAUSE HE WAS 4"9' TALL AND HE COULDNT PLAY SPORTS....SO WHAT DO MOST DWEEBS WHO CANT PLAY SPORTS DO.....PLAY MUSIC!


It doesn't matter how much he practiced, he still needed no lessons. He learned it on his own.

As far as sports goes, music was much better when it was made by people who didn't play sports. Their craft was music and they knew how to make it. Look at all the people making so-called music today (mama's big little boys with their cute little sports jerseys on). They can't play a lick of music and rely on samples for a hit. Music as a whole suffers because of it.
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Reply #27 posted 07/20/06 9:21am

mrdespues

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It doesn't matter how much he practiced, he still needed no lessons. He learned it on his own.

As far as sports goes, music was much better when it was made by people who didn't play sports. Their craft was music and they knew how to make it. Look at all the people making so-called music today (mama's big little boys with their cute little sports jerseys on). They can't play a lick of music and rely on samples for a hit. Music as a whole suffers because of it.


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music is sport
come gather round the court
come sweat and scream for your favourite team
as you cheer and down a beer
you think they're looking like they could be back in form this year;
they're sporting all the name gear

they got the shoulder-smacking corporate-backing
lights a-blaring things are happening
you see the media sacarinne glistening on their tongues
they'll be climbing up the rungs to the top of the industry echelons

keep it going on cos they didn't just come to play they came to win
pros like them know losing is a sin
and when it comes down to handling their balls
these boys'll give it their all from hand to eye
down the line super fine control
backhand forehand underhand power plays
they'll be leaving all the opposition in a stunned daze

fast man
they leave the rest behind
you find they always have the last laugh
as the crowd roar

music is sport (x2)

the fests are the test they're like the musical olympics
or like grand final meets without the seats
it's band vs. band in an action packed day of non stop play-off
where's the fucking pay off?

one gets the mic
one makes the pass
one executes the play
time for a mexican wave

crowd goes wild for racket skills
i teach lessons in regression but it sure don't pay the bills
what the hell we hitting for?
record companies keeping score;

trying to get those shiny plaqued trophies for the office wall
pumping out the hits to feed the media blitz
now watch the swollen champs blow the champers on bikini clad tits
busted through a banner backstage

high five and then we pray to god;
before we play to the throbbing mob
so if you're ever on the sideline or sweating on the court
just remember my friends

music is sport (x4)

(song: "Music Is Sport"; artist: Regurgitator)
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Reply #28 posted 07/20/06 9:44am

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Graycap23 said:

Is Collin88.....BART?


I already came up with that theory on the "retirement" thread. http://www.prince.org/msg/7/195850

Maybe Bart started having some serious drug issues... evillol

Anyway, Bart normally hangs out in the P&R forum these days. He more or less avoids this forum since he screw up on Prince's record sales. biggrin

Could be a reason for an alter ego account... wink
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Reply #29 posted 07/20/06 9:44am

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ccollin88 said:

Why is it that Prince is considered the greatest when he not even the best in Minneapolis?

Every real musician knows JAM & LEWIS run minneapolis...I was told that if you ask most local musicians who is the musician you would most like to work with and over 86% said JAM & LEWIS NOT PRINCE!
for one,Prince started in 1978 jam and lewis 84 but to date they have 36 more top ten R&b and pop hits than PRINCE and he had a six year head start! and to boot they have released over 200 more songs than PRince meaning they are more prolific

don't you think JAM AND LEWIS should be worshiped more than SHORTY PIPPEN?



I think you need to start showing the people on here a bit more respect before you start posting threads on here expecting us to answer them - Youre rude and offensive and I dont know what the hell you are doing on this site when you clearly dont like Prince and all he stands for
but what does my opinion matter eh? Im from the Uk so my opinion doesnt matter as you so nicely put it in a past thread - which has since been locked - BTW
I hope this one gets locked as well
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