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Handclapsfingasnapz said: "Black Sweat": the thread that keeps on threading
 I've gone Black Sweat 
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BananaCologne said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: "Black Sweat": the thread that keeps on threading
I've gone Black Sweat
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GooeyTheHamster said: Just a little note.
break down; U -can -act -hard -if -U -want -2 -this -groove -will -make -U -sweet is very 2 the bridge; My -level -is -now -what -U -must -learn -2 -rise -above innit? That's exactly what I thought when I heard that bit - it does sound very similar to Undisputed from Rave. Though I doubt the many Rave haters on here will admit to that. Classic Prince? Yeah, classic Rave era Prince! I don't dislike the song - it is pretty funky, then again, I quite liked most of Rave anyway. I think just like Te Amo that it is crying out for a guitar solo or extended jam at the end - it just feels too short. I know a lot of people are expecting there to be a longer version - I don't know, I always felt Dear Mr. Man continued after it ended, but we never heard any more. It's one of those songs you just know the live version is going to be so much better, you wonder why he doesn't just put a more live version as the single! | |
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Am I the only one not hearing these lyrics? Or are they just not there?
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: BananaCologne said: I've gone Black Sweat
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Wow! I'm starting to dig the song a lot more now... Maybe just coz I turned up the volume more! I can hear stuff I didn't before, and it's making all the difference!!!!
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coolcat said: Wow! I'm starting to dig the song a lot more now... Maybe just coz I turned up the volume more! I can hear stuff I didn't before, and it's making all the difference!!!!
There is a percussive keyboard or something right when he sings "working up a black sweat"... Wish it was a little louder in the mix! Wish the bass was louder in the mix too... Might just be my speakers... It was really starting to jam with the keyboards at the end... But the song ended! 
Hopefully there is a longer version! [Edited 2/3/06 9:52am] That single note on the synth in the beginning drives me nuts, and not in a good way unfortunately. It's mixed really high and it hurts my ears. But I dig the song!!! It makes me want to dance and perform on a pole. 
M [Edited 2/3/06 9:55am] MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" PM "This thread is like a sexual orientation hall of mirrors" | |
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Who knows maybe this song MIGHT grow on me. I absolutely HATED 'Kiss' the first time I heard it on the radio back in '86 and I can't deny the power of the song now. (honestly, I didn't love it until I got the 12") But the difference is that Kiss sounded like nothing else on the radio at the time. When other artists began copying the Minneapolis sound Prince always seemed to take it a step further.
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coolcat said: Wow! I'm starting to dig the song a lot more now... Maybe just coz I turned up the volume more! I can hear stuff I didn't before, and it's making all the difference!!!!
There is a percussive keyboard or something right when he sings "working up a black sweat"... Wish it was a little louder in the mix! Wish the bass was louder in the mix too... Might just be my speakers... It was really starting to jam with the keyboards... But the song ended soon after that!
Hopefully there is a longer version! [Edited 2/3/06 9:52am] [Edited 2/3/06 10:00am] talking about that little boogie synth bass part? ... makes it candy for the soul. just a touch, just a touch. __________________________
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I'm honestly surprised some people don't like this song. It is simply hot as hell 2009: Mermaids and Dolphins... | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I'm honestly surprised some people don't like this song. It is simply hot as hell
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The complete name of this song should b "Black Sweat (The Chocolate Invasion Continues)" | |
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i like it. i cannot believe it but i like it. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I'm honestly surprised some people don't like this song. It is simply hot as hell
I know Supa! The song is hot. It is going to be a hit and so will the album. Even my brothers and sisters and some friends who aren't big Prince fans as I am liking this song after they seen it on 106 & Park. I been so excited with how this week turn out to be that I only had two hours of sleep yesterday. And this excitement doesn't ends as most of us going to see him on SNL tomorrow. | |
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Although I found nothing wrong with the first song, "Black Sweat", is hot as hell!! I just saw it on MTV.com. This is more like it. Cannot wait to see him on SNL tomorrow night. It it reminds me of "Nasty Girl", but in a good way. "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" | |
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gargamelgibson said: Who knows maybe this song MIGHT grow on me. I absolutely HATED 'Kiss' the first time I heard it on the radio back in '86 and I can't deny the power of the song now. (honestly, I didn't love it until I got the 12") But the difference is that Kiss sounded like nothing else on the radio at the time. When other artists began copying the Minneapolis sound Prince always seemed to take it a step further.
That old nostalgia bug bites me hard with this song because structurally it's so close to what made Prince's sparse arrangements the shit back in the day. But now it sounds like a blatant attempt to keep up and not be a step ahead. I'd rather Prince be the mellowed-out musician rather than make music that doesn't sound natural to me. I'm sorry but it's hard for me to see anyone loving this song and despising Life O' the Party because they sound like they're cut from the same cloth to me. If you love it and feel it's part of "the return of Prince", good on ya. To me it sounds like more programmed rehash of New Power Soul with Pharell's influence. The difference might be as simple as there being 20 years of Prince's musical influence soaking the popular music landscape when "Black Sweat" is released, so what you hear in that song is heard all over the place...as where there were only 2-3 years of possible Prince musical influence when "Kiss" came out. Yes, Prince could have decided that since everyone is taking his sound and co-opting it as their own that he should go off in another musical direction...and in fact, he did. TRC, One Nite Alone and N.E.W.S. is evidence of that. But in my eyes, I'm not exactly shocked or disappointed in the fact that the sound you hear in "Black Sweat" is the sound he developed and made popular, and because of that he may desire to revisit it...it's no different than John Fogerty putting out "The Old Man Down The Road" in that patented CCR style that he created and populated in the early 70's. He wasn't trying to copy or catch up to anyone...he was just being John Fogerty. The only difference is that his style didn't absolutely drench so many aspects of pop music afterwards like Prince's shit did, so it was easier to hear a new release by him and appreciate it as evidence that he can still put out songs like he did 15 years earlier...and we let John Fogerty be John Fogerty without the cynicism attached. | |
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It's good. however, Prince has TALENT. So why waste himself on poppy computerised RnB when he could be making proper music. Remember Bambi? Everlasting Now? Joy In Repetition? Reflection? Endorphinmachine? PURPLE RAIN??
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Prince, if u want a hit, which u CLEARLY do!! Please put a few extra tracks on the single!!
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Byron said: gargamelgibson said: Who knows maybe this song MIGHT grow on me. I absolutely HATED 'Kiss' the first time I heard it on the radio back in '86 and I can't deny the power of the song now. (honestly, I didn't love it until I got the 12") But the difference is that Kiss sounded like nothing else on the radio at the time. When other artists began copying the Minneapolis sound Prince always seemed to take it a step further.
That old nostalgia bug bites me hard with this song because structurally it's so close to what made Prince's sparse arrangements the shit back in the day. But now it sounds like a blatant attempt to keep up and not be a step ahead. I'd rather Prince be the mellowed-out musician rather than make music that doesn't sound natural to me. I'm sorry but it's hard for me to see anyone loving this song and despising Life O' the Party because they sound like they're cut from the same cloth to me. If you love it and feel it's part of "the return of Prince", good on ya. To me it sounds like more programmed rehash of New Power Soul with Pharell's influence. The difference might be as simple as there being 20 years of Prince's musical influence soaking the popular music landscape when "Black Sweat" is released, so what you hear in that song is heard all over the place...as where there were only 2-3 years of possible Prince musical influence when "Kiss" came out. Yes, Prince could have decided that since everyone is taking his sound and co-opting it as their own that he should go off in another musical direction...and in fact, he did. TRC, One Nite Alone and N.E.W.S. is evidence of that. But in my eyes, I'm not exactly shocked or disappointed in the fact that the sound you hear in "Black Sweat" is the sound he developed and made popular, and because of that he may desire to revisit it...it's no different than John Fogerty putting out "The Old Man Down The Road" in that patented CCR style that he created and populated in the early 70's. He wasn't trying to copy or catch up to anyone...he was just being John Fogerty. The only difference is that his style didn't absolutely drench so many aspects of pop music afterwards like Prince's shit did, so it was easier to hear a new release by him and appreciate it as evidence that he can still put out songs like he did 15 years earlier...and we let John Fogerty be John Fogerty without the cynicism attached. Well put. My sentiments exactly!  | |
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dewalliz said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I'm honestly surprised some people don't like this song. It is simply hot as hell
I know Supa! The song is hot. It is going to be a hit and so will the album. Even my brothers and sisters and some friends who aren't big Prince fans as I am liking this song after they seen it on 106 & Park. I been so excited with how this week turn out to be that I only had two hours of sleep yesterday. And this excitement doesn't ends as most of us going to see him on SNL tomorrow. glad to see you're finally happy with the music!  I still loves ya even tho you hate on ATWIAD and Parade  2009: Mermaids and Dolphins... | |
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Byron said: gargamelgibson said: Who knows maybe this song MIGHT grow on me. I absolutely HATED 'Kiss' the first time I heard it on the radio back in '86 and I can't deny the power of the song now. (honestly, I didn't love it until I got the 12") But the difference is that Kiss sounded like nothing else on the radio at the time. When other artists began copying the Minneapolis sound Prince always seemed to take it a step further.
That old nostalgia bug bites me hard with this song because structurally it's so close to what made Prince's sparse arrangements the shit back in the day. But now it sounds like a blatant attempt to keep up and not be a step ahead. I'd rather Prince be the mellowed-out musician rather than make music that doesn't sound natural to me. I'm sorry but it's hard for me to see anyone loving this song and despising Life O' the Party because they sound like they're cut from the same cloth to me. If you love it and feel it's part of "the return of Prince", good on ya. To me it sounds like more programmed rehash of New Power Soul with Pharell's influence. The difference might be as simple as there being 20 years of Prince's musical influence soaking the popular music landscape when "Black Sweat" is released, so what you hear in that song is heard all over the place...as where there were only 2-3 years of possible Prince musical influence when "Kiss" came out. Yes, Prince could have decided that since everyone is taking his sound and co-opting it as their own that he should go off in another musical direction...and in fact, he did. TRC, One Nite Alone and N.E.W.S. is evidence of that. But in my eyes, I'm not exactly shocked or disappointed in the fact that the sound you hear in "Black Sweat" is the sound he developed and made popular, and because of that he may desire to revisit it...it's no different than John Fogerty putting out "The Old Man Down The Road" in that patented CCR style that he created and populated in the early 70's. He wasn't trying to copy or catch up to anyone...he was just being John Fogerty. The only difference is that his style didn't absolutely drench so many aspects of pop music afterwards like Prince's shit did, so it was easier to hear a new release by him and appreciate it as evidence that he can still put out songs like he did 15 years earlier...and we let John Fogerty be John Fogerty without the cynicism attached. excellent synopsis. As of now, I don't think that will make me like the song  but, you're definitely right. I think I just hate it when he goes off into those other musical directions a la TRC, NEWS, ONA , it's seemingly appreciated more by the casual fans than the core folks who were listening 20 - 25 years ago. Because of the resurgance in the 80s sound, I know his influence is prevalent once again. I'm just kind of baffled that he chose to go for radio with this new single that pretty much sounds just like everything else that's already being played to death.
I sincerely hope that this single is bait to catch new listeners and the album proves to them what sets him apart. | |
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Oh, and the acoustic version is WAAAAY fonkier!! The studio version is over produced IMHO. | |
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No Way are Black Sweat and Life of the Party cut from the same cloth! 2009: Mermaids and Dolphins... | |
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gargamelgibson said: Byron said: The difference might be as simple as there being 20 years of Prince's musical influence soaking the popular music landscape when "Black Sweat" is released, so what you hear in that song is heard all over the place...as where there were only 2-3 years of possible Prince musical influence when "Kiss" came out. Yes, Prince could have decided that since everyone is taking his sound and co-opting it as their own that he should go off in another musical direction...and in fact, he did. TRC, One Nite Alone and N.E.W.S. is evidence of that. But in my eyes, I'm not exactly shocked or disappointed in the fact that the sound you hear in "Black Sweat" is the sound he developed and made popular, and because of that he may desire to revisit it...it's no different than John Fogerty putting out "The Old Man Down The Road" in that patented CCR style that he created and populated in the early 70's. He wasn't trying to copy or catch up to anyone...he was just being John Fogerty. The only difference is that his style didn't absolutely drench so many aspects of pop music afterwards like Prince's shit did, so it was easier to hear a new release by him and appreciate it as evidence that he can still put out songs like he did 15 years earlier...and we let John Fogerty be John Fogerty without the cynicism attached. excellent synopsis. As of now, I don't think that will make me like the song but, you're definitely right. I think I just hate it when he goes off into those other musical directions a la TRC, NEWS, ONA , it's seemingly appreciated more by the casual fans than the core folks who were listening 20 - 25 years ago. Because of the resurgance in the 80s sound, I know his influence is prevalent once again. I'm just kind of baffled that he chose to go for radio with this new single that pretty much sounds just like everything else that's already being played to death.
I sincerely hope that this single is bait to catch new listeners and the album proves to them what sets him apart. ...Well, ultimately I think whether or not we like the song (or any song) is chalked up to our own independend tastes...and for the record, like you I also wasn't thrilled too much when I first heard "Kiss"...but embarassingly enough, I did find myself almost instantly liking "Hot Wit U"...lol  ... | |
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Byron said: gargamelgibson said: excellent synopsis. As of now, I don't think that will make me like the song but, you're definitely right. I think I just hate it when he goes off into those other musical directions a la TRC, NEWS, ONA , it's seemingly appreciated more by the casual fans than the core folks who were listening 20 - 25 years ago. Because of the resurgance in the 80s sound, I know his influence is prevalent once again. I'm just kind of baffled that he chose to go for radio with this new single that pretty much sounds just like everything else that's already being played to death.
I sincerely hope that this single is bait to catch new listeners and the album proves to them what sets him apart. ...Well, ultimately I think whether or not we like the song (or any song) is chalked up to our own independend tastes...and for the record, like you I also wasn't thrilled too much when I first heard "Kiss"...but embarassingly enough, I did find myself almost instantly liking "Hot Wit U"...lol ...that is embarrassing.....
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Byron said: ...Well, ultimately I think whether or not we like the song (or any song) is chalked up to our own independend tastes...and for the record, like you I also wasn't thrilled too much when I first heard "Kiss"...but embarassingly enough, I did find myself almost instantly liking "Hot Wit U"...lol ...that is embarrassing.....
. [Edited 2/3/06 11:15am] ...What the hell do I know about music...lol | |
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If the song supposedly has no melody, why is the chorus (I'm workin' workin' up black sweat) stuck in my head?
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GoldenGlove said: It's good. however, Prince has TALENT. So why waste himself on poppy computerised RnB when he could be making proper music. Remember Bambi? Everlasting Now? Joy In Repetition? Reflection? Endorphinmachine? PURPLE RAIN??
It is a good song, and with the correct promotion it WILL be a hit!! but Prince should leave this stuff to the black eyed peas. he has nothing to proove. But overall 7 out of 10 = good. Let's hope he keeps the deeper/real stuff for the album. 
BTW: it reminds me of something off "Rave Un2 The Joy fantastic" 
Yeah, this is generally what I feel - It's got the Rave/High/2000 sound. And like you say, Prince is genre chasing, this sounds very current - and I'm not a fan of current US chart music. For which reason it will probably do well. | |
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