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Thread started 12/09/05 2:15am

alxndrstff

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Madonna, Jackson, Prince

Three of the biggest stars of their generation, hugely popular and ground breaking in their prime.

Is Prince the only one who's grown up?

Madonna seems to be churning out the same stuff over and over again, clinging on to her image for dear life but now unable to take her clothes off to help her.

Jackson, no need to go there really.

I genuinely believe if Prince had made the same sort of stuff from Purple Rain onwards he'd have completely vanished by now.
So look into the mirror, do u recognise some1? Is it who u always hoped u would become, when u were young?
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Reply #1 posted 12/09/05 2:31am

DavidEye

I disagree with your assessment about Madonna.For the most part,her recent albums are distinctive.She's come a long way from her 80s sound.
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Reply #2 posted 12/09/05 5:00am

Heiress

Madonna is most definitely a grown-up. Don't be silly.
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Reply #3 posted 12/09/05 5:24am

HumaRojo

DavidEye said:

I disagree with your assessment about Madonna.For the most part,her recent albums are distinctive.



True. I wonder, why Prince has not followed the same path...
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Reply #4 posted 12/09/05 5:45am

GoldenGlove

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Heiress said:

Madonna is most definitely a grown-up. Don't be silly.


:ha:
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Reply #5 posted 12/09/05 6:31am

andykeen

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To be honest Madonna still makes "crap" pop music, that to me hasn't really changed, I really dug her in 1999 i believe it was, she went a totally different way (music wise)

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Reply #6 posted 12/09/05 10:26am

luv4all7

Why do you say Madonna hasn't grown up? I haven't bought a Madonna album since Imacualte Collection, cuz I personally like her fun POP side the best.....but she HAS grown, and changed direction.

The REASON she DOESN'T take her clothes off to HELP her anymore, IS cuz she GREW UP!
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Reply #7 posted 12/09/05 10:31am

GoldenGlove

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luv4all7 said:

The REASON she DOESN'T take her clothes off to HELP her anymore, IS cuz she GREW UP!
The reason she doesn't take her clothes off anymore is because nobody wants to see her saggy old body complete with custard flaps and bingo wings.
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Reply #8 posted 12/09/05 10:35am

FunkJam

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GoldenGlove said:

luv4all7 said:

The REASON she DOESN'T take her clothes off to HELP her anymore, IS cuz she GREW UP!
The reason she doesn't take her clothes off anymore is because nobody wants to see her saggy old body complete with custard flaps and bingo wings.


HAHAHAHA!!!!
"Man, the living creature, the creating individual, is always more important than any established style or system" - Bruce Lee
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Reply #9 posted 12/09/05 10:49am

thekidsgirl

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This is the wrong place to dis Madonna. I swear most orgers would sooner put Prince down than her lol
If you will, so will I
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Reply #10 posted 12/09/05 10:54am

luv4all7

Bein' totally serious, what are custard flaps & bingo wings?????
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Reply #11 posted 12/09/05 11:08am

thekidsgirl

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luv4all7 said:

Bein' totally serious, what are custard flaps & bingo wings?????


Chicken skin?

If you will, so will I
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Reply #12 posted 12/09/05 11:08am

GoldenGlove

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luv4all7 said:

Bein' totally serious, what are custard flaps & bingo wings?????


Bingo wings are empty flab that appear where triceps are supposed to be... and custard flaps are, well.... (think about it)

(But not 4 2 long) sick
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Reply #13 posted 12/09/05 11:10am

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luv4all7 said:

Why do you say Madonna hasn't grown up? I haven't bought a Madonna album since Imacualte Collection, cuz I personally like her fun POP side the best.....but she HAS grown, and changed direction.

The REASON she DOESN'T take her clothes off to HELP her anymore, IS cuz she GREW UP!



I guess you haven't seen her latest video.
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Reply #14 posted 12/09/05 11:29am

MickG

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Jackson is the most fucked, there is no argument there.

However, Madonna isn't as bad as you hint and Prince ain't got it all together yet.

Prince and Madonna, who is the most fucked out of that pair is a real close race.
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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Reply #15 posted 12/09/05 11:45am

skywalker

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My take on it:

Prince- legendary as a musical genius and is viewed as a genuine artist. Yes, he is enigmatic, horny,spiritual, and eccentirc. But he is finally getting props for being arguably the most well rounded/versatile and creative musician in the game. Not necessarily the best selling, or the biggest favorite, but always unique to himself. He is viewed as being an original and a true artist.

Madonna- More famous for her fame, than her music. If Elvis and Marilyn Monroe had a kid, it be Madonna. Much more important in terms of pop culture than she is in terms of music. Pushed the boundaries for female artists-and did it on her own terms.

MJ- the Elvis Presley of his generation. As famous as a man can be and all the shit that goes with it. MJ is in his "fat Elvis" phase now. I think he'll be remembered much how folks remember Elvis. Mostly for his artistry, but with the caricature still in the mind.
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Reply #16 posted 12/09/05 11:51am

MickG

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skywalker said:

My take on it:

MJ- the Elvis Presley of his generation. As famous as a man can be and all the shit that goes with it. MJ is in his "fat Elvis" phase now. I think he'll be remembered much how folks remember Elvis. Mostly for his artistry, but wth the caraciture of MJ still in your mind.


No!

Elvis Presley is the crowned king of rock n roll. He was is and will always be so much more then jackoff.

Michael Jackoff: a self perclamed 'king of pop', who is a petiphile, and his largest clame to fame besides the glory days of Mtv is tricking Elvis's Daughter into marring him.
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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Reply #17 posted 12/09/05 11:53am

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skywalker said:

My take on it:

If Elvis and Marilyn Monroe had a kid, it be Madonna.



LOOOOOL THATS A VERY FUNNY THOUGHT and its creating really funny images in my head.

LOL
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Reply #18 posted 12/09/05 12:03pm

skywalker

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"No!

Elvis Presley is the crowned king of rock n roll. He was is and will always be so much more then jackoff.

Michael Jackoff: a self perclamed 'king of pop', who is a petiphile, and his largest clame to fame besides the glory days of Mtv is tricking Elvis's Daughter into marring him."

All I am saying is that MJ's cultural and musical contributions are just as big/important as Elvis's. He is just as famous, and just as tragic. Obviously, you are biased towards Elvis, and that's fine. MJ and Elvis are comparable in terms of fame, popularity, eccentricity,cultural impact, musical contribution, talent, and tragedy.
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Reply #19 posted 12/09/05 12:04pm

MickG

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skywalker said:

"No!

Elvis Presley is the crowned king of rock n roll. He was is and will always be so much more then jackoff.

Michael Jackoff: a self perclamed 'king of pop', who is a petiphile, and his largest clame to fame besides the glory days of Mtv is tricking Elvis's Daughter into marring him."

All I am saying is that MJ's cultural and musical contributions are just as big/important as Elvis's. He is just as famous, and just as tragic. Obviously, you are biased towards Elvis, and that's fine. MJ and Elvis are comparable in terms of fame, popularity, eccentricity,cultural impact, musical contribution, talent, and tragedy.


No! I am not biased toward Elvis, I am biased against Jackoff. There is a diffrence.

And well, as far as prince goes this picture says it all.


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News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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Reply #20 posted 12/09/05 12:43pm

NPD313

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you guys are ignorant!
Madonna is in very good shape.

She's showing her ass in the new video.
Nothing flabby and old on maddy!


She is constantly changing...her new music is good!
Thou it reminds me of her old school sound, thats a good thing, because most fans couldn't deal with american life!

It wasn't that great of material.
Ray of Light was new and good for her.
Bedtime stories didn't sound like erotica...so what the hell is some of you talking about?

With her music sounding the same...each album is different.
Her new music doesn't duplicate "True Blue or Like a virgin nor Like a prayer"
It just sounds like an 80's dance club...which isn't so bad in 2005, being that most of the music that comes out now is BS!

Her's is far better than any of these young wanna bee's.
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Reply #21 posted 12/09/05 2:05pm

purplecam

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thekidsgirl said:

This is the wrong place to dis Madonna. I swear most orgers would sooner put Prince down than her lol

lol The sad part is it's the truth.

M and P have grown up and thank goodness for that. No if MJ would just catch the train then all would be good in the world again.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #22 posted 12/09/05 2:30pm

skywalker

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"No! I am not biased toward Elvis, I am biased against Jackoff. There is a diffrence."


Okay then.
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Reply #23 posted 12/09/05 7:00pm

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andykeen said:

To be honest Madonna still makes "crap" pop music, that to me hasn't really changed, I really dug her in 1999 i believe it was, she went a totally different way (music wise)


Prince had to sell his last CD to everyone at his concert and include it in the ticket price to make it go top 10.

Meanwhile Madonna's latest debuted at number 1 as did her two previous ones.

There's no comparison as far as who's been able to keep their brand of music more popular with the masses. But Prince is a better musician and innovator and singer and has the kind of divine, God given genius artistic talent that Madonna doesn't. She has to spend several hours in the gym, produce state of the art music videos, and go for public stunts like kissing Britney to maintain her lot in the pop culture realm. Prince just doesn't seem to give a fuck if the MTV crowd digs him. So to compare who's more grown up seems beside the point IMHO.
I'll leave it alone babe...just be me
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Reply #24 posted 12/09/05 9:23pm

skywalker

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"Prince had to sell his last CD to everyone at his concert and include it in the ticket price to make it go top 10.

Meanwhile Madonna's latest debuted at number 1 as did her two previous ones.

There's no comparison as far as who's been able to keep their brand of music more popular with the masses. But Prince is a better musician and innovator and singer and has the kind of divine, God given genius artistic talent that Madonna doesn't. She has to spend several hours in the gym, produce state of the art music videos, and go for public stunts like kissing Britney to maintain her lot in the pop culture realm. Prince just doesn't seem to give a fuck if the MTV crowd digs him. So to compare who's more grown up seems beside the point IMHO."


Well, of course. Madonna is, was, and always has been a bigger media whore.
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Reply #25 posted 12/10/05 12:09am

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Look at the fans
MJ Kids and disturbed types who havent grown believing hes innocent, Jacko went off after Bad
Madonna poppy wannabes
Prince, clever entertaining and whitty and music connisseurs of distinction.
And look at this pop tirumvirate of the 80s today all 47

Jacko 47 Mental age 12 no career, moving to some obscure arab sheikdom, to carry on his stastes in peace
Mads 47, Mental age 19, trying to reinvent the youthful energy of Holiday although shes a good person and has made some GREAT songs.
Prince 47, Mental age 47, settled mature diplomatic and still agenius, controls his own shit, no-ones bitch, the best and most successful of th lot. Iknow who my moneys with

Writen by Tane age 29, mental age 16!!!!
17 Years ago I made a commitment to Prince
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