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Thread started 11/01/05 8:01am

Love2tha9s

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Chaos & Disorder : A release of a practice session?

In the liner notes for Chaos and Disorder it says the following as we all know:

Originally intended for private use only (does this mean that this was recorded or came about as a result of a practice and this is what came out of it) because as we keep reading the rest of it "this compilation serves as the last original material recorded by prince 4 warner brothers records" (That couldn't be true because of the first part saying it was for private use right? He damn sure didn't mean for this to be originally a wb record or he wouldn't have said what he did in the first part)

What I was wondering then is is the whole Chaos & Disorder a release of stuff that just came about during a practice and basically that is what he did and went and released a what? 45 minute practice session?

Also got me to wondering is that what COME came from also along with The Vault since we have been told that both of those were contract fillers also.

I just got to wondering about it when reading the notes while listening this time and was curious to know if Come, The Vault and C&D are inside looks (listens) to practice sessions that P originally never was gonna release?
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Reply #1 posted 11/01/05 9:15am

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DO THEY SOUND like practice sessions to you? No, they are studio albums - tracked in a studio, mixed at a studio, mastered at a studio somewhere. They are CDs that feature several songs Prince wanted to be released, and whilst not as much concentration has gone into the track order or the general stylization of the selected tracks as on his previous records, they are still in all their essence, Prince records. Not that much different from any of the earlier (or later) classics.
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Reply #2 posted 11/01/05 9:42am

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I always took it to mean that these tracks were not specifically recorded for an album, i.e. Prince had recorded them as solo songs and put them in his vault. Then compiled them into C&D to fulfill his contract. However, you could also argue the same process was involved in The Vault album, which came later, so that 'last original material' bit isn't really true other than that The Vault was 'Prince' and C&D was actually 'prince'.

You would have to explain, why exactly Prince records fully produced songs that are never intentioned for any release and end up in the vault? It's one thing to record songs thinking, 'well, maybe I can use this in the future', it's another thing to record songs knowing full well they will never make a public appearance ever. Well, only Prince really knows. What could 'for private use' mean? So when he has a party he can play something new over the speakers? He has said, when he wants to hear new music, he just goes and records some. Hasn't he heard of ordering CDs from Amazon?!

Ultimately, that liner note is there basically as a dig at Warners - basically saying, 'I ain't put much new effort into this album and it's the last I'm gonna do for them, and I'm letting y'all know this'.
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Reply #3 posted 11/01/05 9:46am

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He should have kept practicing. biggrin
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Reply #4 posted 11/01/05 9:49am

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Novabreaker said:

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DO THEY SOUND like practice sessions to you? No, they are studio albums - tracked in a studio, mixed at a studio, mastered at a studio somewhere. They are CDs that feature several songs Prince wanted to be released, and whilst not as much concentration has gone into the track order or the general stylization of the selected tracks as on his previous records, they are still in all their essence, Prince records. Not that much different from any of the earlier (or later) classics.


Shake your head all you want to dude confused I'm just going by what he himself said on the notes razz wink
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Reply #5 posted 11/01/05 9:50am

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Novabreaker said:

disbelief

DO THEY SOUND like practice sessions to you? No, they are studio albums - tracked in a studio, mixed at a studio, mastered at a studio somewhere. They are CDs that feature several songs Prince wanted to be released, and whilst not as much concentration has gone into the track order or the general stylization of the selected tracks as on his previous records, they are still in all their essence, Prince records. Not that much different from any of the earlier (or later) classics.


Oh and by the way I love the album (one of the few that seem to)

I'm just going by what he said razz
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Reply #6 posted 11/01/05 10:08am

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Love2tha9s said:

Novabreaker said:

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DO THEY SOUND like practice sessions to you? No, they are studio albums - tracked in a studio, mixed at a studio, mastered at a studio somewhere. They are CDs that feature several songs Prince wanted to be released, and whilst not as much concentration has gone into the track order or the general stylization of the selected tracks as on his previous records, they are still in all their essence, Prince records. Not that much different from any of the earlier (or later) classics.


Shake your head all you want to dude confused I'm just going by what he himself said on the notes razz wink



i think that was part of the marketing for the cd so people didn't assume he was losing his touch. people would read that and go, oh since this album isn't as good as Gold than it must be because these songs weren't meant to be heard.
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Reply #7 posted 11/01/05 10:58am

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4 some reason I like Chaos & Disorder more than Come & Gold. I like Come better than Gold. And seems 2 me that he put more effort in Gold than both of the others. When he should have been promoting Come he was singing songs from Gold, what was that all about? Same for Chaos & Disorder with Emancipation. But that I understand. Maybe the songs from Chaos & Disorder are the outtakes from Come & Gold more so than practice sessions. If U put Come, Exodus, Gold Experience, Chaos & Disorder and Emancipation 2gether, U get a wonderful experience. U really C how versatile the man really is. I wouldn't call it a practice session, it's work in progress.
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Reply #8 posted 11/01/05 1:09pm

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I don't care what anybody says, I LOVE this album nod Haven't heard it in a while because my copy is in storage pout
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