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Reply #30 posted 10/15/05 5:48am

Averett

GoldenGlove said:

Prince doesn't HATE MJ. He is probably slightly jellous though... and rightly so! MJ has had WAAAAY more success than P, even though P is WAAAAY more talented / hardworking.

So he is bound to be slightly jellous...


lol Silly rabbit... tricks are for kids lol
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Reply #31 posted 10/15/05 6:02am

bunnyman

Doesnt most of the world hate kiddy fiddlers?

Wasnt there an interview in which Prince called Michael 'A Fossil' and his we are the world song 'Pure Trash'.
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Reply #32 posted 10/15/05 6:18am

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cool Because hes sick of being compared to Jacko, they are not similar, the only similarity is they were both black and look quite white now. And they dance and are reclusive.

Differences

1. Prince writes 98% of whats on the albums, MJ 5% Bullshit, MJ writes most of his stuff
2. Prince 44 Albums, Jacko less than 10 Is that a reason for Prince to HATE MJ?
3. Jacko sold more records (Brainwashed more people) I don't get how this point is relevent
4. Jacko only sings slick pop, Prince has tried most styles. MJ does soul and rock also (Rock with you, Butterflies, Beat it, Give In To Me, Dirty Dianna)
5. Prince dosen't fuck little boys Mj was found NOT guilty
6. Prince dosen't have a pet chimpanzee, zoo, hyperbaric chamber etc. and... so...
7. Prince looks real, Jacko sci fi nightmare This is correct
8. Prince heaps of women, Jacko two surrogate mothers and several boys. What have women got to do with there music?
9. Prince still kicks ass, Jacko washed up. Both have allways kicked ass
10. How many side acts has Michael produced? None
11. Prince no controlling family, MJ Joseph no comment So what?
12. Prince, Tyka: Michael, Rebbie, Jackie, Tito, Jermaine, La Toya, Marlon, Randy, Janet
And I know I will get death mails from Jacko fans who r innocent, but thats the breaks. I am just trying to prove their differences, a reason why people mix the two is because they are black and huge megastars (ie a few of the black people whites chose to notice in the 80's.

There is only one Prince, insist on the geniune article.
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Reply #33 posted 10/15/05 6:19am

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bunnyman said:

Doesnt most of the world hate kiddy fiddlers?
Yes they do, but am i mistaken or wasn't MJ given a fair trial and found NOT guilty. confused
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Reply #34 posted 10/15/05 6:43am

Averett

GoldenGlove said:

bunnyman said:

Doesnt most of the world hate kiddy fiddlers?
Yes they do, but am i mistaken or wasn't MJ given a fair trial and found NOT guilty. confused


"Not guilty" does not equal innocent, the prosecutor merely failed to prove his case beyond a reasonable doubt. While this specific case was flawed due to the history and character of the victim's mother, I have no doubt that there will be yet another young boy in Michael's future. Michael has a major issue with keeping young boys for companionship. I'm sure that Prince hates the sin and not the sinner in the case of MJ nod

Just remember '93

People do not settle civil cases involving child molestation (for $25 million or any amount for that matter!) if they are the victims of a blackmail scheme and they are otherwise innocent.
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Reply #35 posted 10/15/05 6:50am

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Averett said:

GoldenGlove said:

Yes they do, but am i mistaken or wasn't MJ given a fair trial and found NOT guilty. confused


People do not settle civil cases involving child molestation (for $25 million or any amount for that matter!) if they are the victims of a blackmail scheme and they are otherwise innocent.


They do if they have the kind of money Michael Jackson has, and just want these vicous rumours / lies ou of their life! MJ was almost suicidle at that timeQ For once he didn't give a shit what the press thought... he wanted these scum bags out of his life so he could focus on his career and personal life.

And in 2003 he was accused again, this time he was proved NOT guilty... and u people are still not satisfied?? damn... i feel sorry for the guy. What the fuck does he have to do to be accepted for who he is and left alone??

I am not a "hardcore" MJ fan, but it really makes me sick to see people keep kicking him when he's down and takin' digs at him. Even though nothing was proved... poor MJ. confused
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Reply #36 posted 10/15/05 6:52am

hellomoto

GoldenGlove said:

tane1976 said:

cool Because hes sick of being compared to Jacko, they are not similar, the only similarity is they were both black and look quite white now. And they dance and are reclusive.

Differences

1. Prince writes 98% of whats on the albums, MJ 5% Bullshit, MJ writes most of his stuff
2. Prince 44 Albums, Jacko less than 10 Is that a reason for Prince to HATE MJ?
3. Jacko sold more records (Brainwashed more people) I don't get how this point is relevent
4. Jacko only sings slick pop, Prince has tried most styles. MJ does soul and rock also (Rock with you, Butterflies, Beat it, Give In To Me, Dirty Dianna)
5. Prince dosen't fuck little boys Mj was found NOT guilty
6. Prince dosen't have a pet chimpanzee, zoo, hyperbaric chamber etc. and... so...
7. Prince looks real, Jacko sci fi nightmare This is correct
8. Prince heaps of women, Jacko two surrogate mothers and several boys. What have women got to do with there music?
9. Prince still kicks ass, Jacko washed up. Both have allways kicked ass
10. How many side acts has Michael produced? None
11. Prince no controlling family, MJ Joseph no comment So what?
12. Prince, Tyka: Michael, Rebbie, Jackie, Tito, Jermaine, La Toya, Marlon, Randy, Janet
And I know I will get death mails from Jacko fans who r innocent, but thats the breaks. I am just trying to prove their differences, a reason why people mix the two is because they are black and huge megastars (ie a few of the black people whites chose to notice in the 80's.

There is only one Prince, insist on the geniune article.
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michael has produced some tracks for other people, although he hasnt produced a whole act, but still he has done producing for other people
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Reply #37 posted 10/15/05 6:56am

Averett

GoldenGlove said:

Averett said:



People do not settle civil cases involving child molestation (for $25 million or any amount for that matter!) if they are the victims of a blackmail scheme and they are otherwise innocent.


They do if they have the kind of money Michael Jackson has, and just want these vicous rumours / lies ou of their life! MJ was almost suicidle at that timeQ For once he didn't give a shit what the press thought... he wanted these scum bags out of his life so he could focus on his career and personal life.

And in 2003 he was accused again, this time he was proved NOT guilty... and u people are still not satisfied?? damn... i feel sorry for the guy. What the fuck does he have to do to be accepted for who he is and left alone??

I am not a "hardcore" MJ fan, but it really makes me sick to see people keep kicking him when he's down and takin' digs at him. Even though nothing was proved... poor MJ. confused


Only a hardcore MJ fan would continually spam MJ-related threads on a Prince fansite... get a fucking clue already rolleyes

And how much MJ koolaid does it take to get to the point were you honestly believe that innocent people who have money "reward" blackmailers with $25 million dollar payouts. If you really believe that shit, I got a bridge for sale and you got first dibs.
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Reply #38 posted 10/15/05 6:57am

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Averett said:

GoldenGlove said:

Yes they do, but am i mistaken or wasn't MJ given a fair trial and found NOT guilty. confused


"Not guilty" does not equal innocent, the prosecutor merely failed to prove his case beyond a reasonable doubt. While this specific case was flawed due to the history and character of the victim's mother, I have no doubt that there will be yet another young boy in Michael's future. Michael has a major issue with keeping young boys for companionship. I'm sure that Prince hates the sin and not the sinner in the case of MJ nod

Just remember '93

People do not settle civil cases involving child molestation (for $25 million or any amount for that matter!) if they are the victims of a blackmail scheme and they are otherwise innocent.



ummm...yes they do...
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Reply #39 posted 10/15/05 6:58am

Averett

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Averett said:



"Not guilty" does not equal innocent, the prosecutor merely failed to prove his case beyond a reasonable doubt. While this specific case was flawed due to the history and character of the victim's mother, I have no doubt that there will be yet another young boy in Michael's future. Michael has a major issue with keeping young boys for companionship. I'm sure that Prince hates the sin and not the sinner in the case of MJ nod

Just remember '93

People do not settle civil cases involving child molestation (for $25 million or any amount for that matter!) if they are the victims of a blackmail scheme and they are otherwise innocent.



ummm...yes they do...


Pass the koolaid rolleyes
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Reply #40 posted 10/15/05 6:58am

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Averett said:

GoldenGlove said:



They do if they have the kind of money Michael Jackson has, and just want these vicous rumours / lies ou of their life! MJ was almost suicidle at that timeQ For once he didn't give a shit what the press thought... he wanted these scum bags out of his life so he could focus on his career and personal life.

And in 2003 he was accused again, this time he was proved NOT guilty... and u people are still not satisfied?? damn... i feel sorry for the guy. What the fuck does he have to do to be accepted for who he is and left alone??

I am not a "hardcore" MJ fan, but it really makes me sick to see people keep kicking him when he's down and takin' digs at him. Even though nothing was proved... poor MJ. confused


Only a hardcore MJ fan would continually spam MJ-related threads on a Prince fansite... get a fucking clue already rolleyes

And how much MJ koolaid does it take to get to the point were you honestly believe that innocent people who have money "reward" blackmailers with $25 million dollar payouts. If you really believe that shit, I got a bridge for sale and you got first dibs.



hey now..you are free to your opinion but you need to respect other peoples opinions as well...lets chill with the condescending tone...aight?

we all cool peeps here..no need for that.
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Reply #41 posted 10/15/05 6:58am

hellomoto

GoldenGlove said:

Averett said:



People do not settle civil cases involving child molestation (for $25 million or any amount for that matter!) if they are the victims of a blackmail scheme and they are otherwise innocent.


They do if they have the kind of money Michael Jackson has, and just want these vicous rumours / lies ou of their life! MJ was almost suicidle at that timeQ For once he didn't give a shit what the press thought... he wanted these scum bags out of his life so he could focus on his career and personal life.

And in 2003 he was accused again, this time he was proved NOT guilty... and u people are still not satisfied?? damn... i feel sorry for the guy. What the fuck does he have to do to be accepted for who he is and left alone??

I am not a "hardcore" MJ fan, but it really makes me sick to see people keep kicking him when he's down and takin' digs at him. Even though nothing was proved... poor MJ. confused

please, lets not turn this thread into a guilty innocent thread, (although what im about to say might carry it on) but one thing that annoys me is when people say not guilty doesnt mean innocent, well not guilty means NOT guilty, so if your not guilty then what are you? whats the opposite to guilty? innocent. of course we dont know for sure if he is or not, but he WAS found innocent by the law and through a trial, and i sure as hell would trusta jury that found out all the facts through a trial then some random jo blow on a forum who doesnt know nothing saying hes definetly guilty
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Reply #42 posted 10/15/05 6:59am

Averett

sosgemini said:

Averett said:



Only a hardcore MJ fan would continually spam MJ-related threads on a Prince fansite... get a fucking clue already rolleyes

And how much MJ koolaid does it take to get to the point were you honestly believe that innocent people who have money "reward" blackmailers with $25 million dollar payouts. If you really believe that shit, I got a bridge for sale and you got first dibs.



hey now..you are free to your opinion but you need to respect other peoples opinions as well...lets chill with the condescending tone...aight?

we all cool peeps here..no need for that.


When will the MJ spamming stop btw? neutral
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Reply #43 posted 10/15/05 7:04am

sosgemini

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Averett said:

sosgemini said:




hey now..you are free to your opinion but you need to respect other peoples opinions as well...lets chill with the condescending tone...aight?

we all cool peeps here..no need for that.


When will the MJ spamming stop btw? neutral



heres the great thing about the org..each threads heading is perfectly displayed so that each of us is empowered and free to discuss which topics we want....

ie, if you dont wanna see stuff about mj, dont read threads that have his name in the topic heading.

now its the weekend...lets turn the neutral into a dancing jig

aight?
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Reply #44 posted 10/15/05 7:06am

Averett

How many boys later will some of us start to think that there is a problem here? He has settled more than one case folks, a former employee's son being one of the victims. How many times do you think that a innocent person would allow themselves to fall to the same blackmail scheme?
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Reply #45 posted 10/15/05 7:08am

Averett

sosgemini said:

Averett said:



When will the MJ spamming stop btw? neutral



ie, if you dont wanna see stuff about mj, dont read threads that have his name in the topic heading.



Fair enough. I was just curious if the site would be changing its name to "PrinceMJ.org" anytime soon?
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Reply #46 posted 10/15/05 7:20am

sosgemini

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Averett said:

sosgemini said:




ie, if you dont wanna see stuff about mj, dont read threads that have his name in the topic heading.



Fair enough. I was just curious if the site would be changing its name to "PrinceMJ.org" anytime soon?


once again..can we dispense with the condescending tone? its not appreciated..and i for one would like to enjoy my weekend.

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Reply #47 posted 10/15/05 7:21am

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Christopher said:

sosgemini said:








is that flo evans mama?
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Reply #48 posted 10/15/05 7:54am

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Differences

1. Prince writes 98% of whats on the albums, MJ 5%

Murph says...While it's true some of MJ detractors can point to MJ being connected to some of the best producers in the business, it's going too far saying that the man only wrote 5 percent of his albums...I'm sort of in the middle when it comes to critiquing the man's writing output..He wrote the lyrics to some of his best songs (Billie Jean, Beat It, ect...), and this should not be discounted...Unfortunately, people will always something to say about the man because of Q, Temperton, Teddy ect...

2. Prince 44 Albums, Jacko less than 10

Murph: This is what I'll say...I would have wanted MJ to release more than two albums in his '80s prime; This is probably the strongest argument that someone could have if they wanted to pick P over MJ...

3. Jacko sold more records (Brainwashed more people)

Murph: Hey, the man aimed to please; you can't shit on MJ for that...

4. Jacko only sings slick pop, Prince has tried most styles.

Murph: While i will agree that Prince has experimented with more styles than MJ, I think the man has done more than just slick pop...However, I will agree that MJ's style has become more packaged over the years...


5. Prince dosen't fuck little boys...

Murph: Personal shit...If you want to say MJ has come close to ruining his career with his obsession with kids then I'll give you that; but this doesn't have much to do with the artistic prowess or greatness of the man...

6. Prince dosen't have a pet chimpanzee, zoo, hyperbaric chamber etc.

Murph: What the hell does that have to do with anything; Hey I'll admit I'm a bigger Prince fan than of MJ's...but come the fuck on dog; this shit is so 3rd grade...


I won't get into the other stuff...I don't know if Prince really hates MJ...I think it's always be a competitive rivalry that is based in respect...Now I can see P getting a little perturbed that he's always being compared to Mike...but that's another story...
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Reply #49 posted 10/15/05 8:15am

hellomoto

murph said:

Differences

1. Prince writes 98% of whats on the albums, MJ 5%

Murph says...While it's true some of MJ detractors can point to MJ being connected to some of the best producers in the business, it's going too far saying that the man only wrote 5 percent of his albums...I'm sort of in the middle when it comes to critiquing the man's writing output..He wrote the lyrics to some of his best songs (Billie Jean, Beat It, ect...), and this should not be discounted...Unfortunately, people will always something to say about the man because of Q, Temperton, Teddy ect...

you will never give michael the songwriting credit he deserves will you murph? he didnt just 'write the lyrics' to some of his most famous songs, he wrote the whole fucking tune. he wrote the music, the melody the lyrics too. 95 % of his biggest hits he wrote purely by himself, written and composed you name it, some of them he even produced. i like you murph, im just sick of you downplaying michaels songwriting skills
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Reply #50 posted 10/15/05 8:18am

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I always thought Prince and Michael Jackson loved eahother!




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Reply #51 posted 10/15/05 9:04am

ThePunisher

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What's with the references to Michael in "My name is Prince" and "Life O' the Party"... What's with the grudge?

The earliest "issue" I can think of is the "Prince t-shirt" mention in Moonwalker.
There is absolutely no reason for Prince to hate or dislike Michael. Unless something happened that we don't know about. I'm pretty sure that Prince wasn't too thrilled about MJ naming one of his kids Prince. And Prince did turn down Michael's offer to do "Bad" as a duet between the two of them. Prince said there was no way he was gonna sing "your butt is mine" to Michael. There were rumors out there that people close to Michael had to constantly boost his ego by telling him that he was still popular then Prince during the Purple Rain days (Imagine that!). But now, I just don't think that Prince gives MJ much thought unless someone asks him(and visa versa).
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Reply #52 posted 10/15/05 9:39am

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Averett said:

sosgemini said:




ie, if you dont wanna see stuff about mj, dont read threads that have his name in the topic heading.



Fair enough. I was just curious if the site would be changing its name to "PrinceMJ.org" anytime soon?

No it's gonna become PrinceMadonna.org real soon and that's scary in itself.

Back to MJ, I think that Prince respects MJ and vice versa. I'd still would like to see them do something together.
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I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #53 posted 10/15/05 1:03pm

ThreadBare

Because MJ got to Lisa Marie before he could make his move...
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Reply #54 posted 10/15/05 2:07pm

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ThreadBare said:

Because MJ got to Lisa Marie before he could make his move...



thats just gross..


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Reply #55 posted 10/15/05 3:57pm

Rhondab

they don't hate each other I don't think.

I remember when one of those entertainment shows had some chick claiming that she was carrying Michaels kids. She said that Prince introduced her to Michael. So, I think the fans keep up this stuff.

The chick was a nutty but I think it was verifed that the introduction did happen the way she said.
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Reply #56 posted 10/15/05 4:14pm

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coolcat said:

What's with the references to Michael in "My name is Prince" and "Life O' the Party"... What's with the grudge?

The earliest "issue" I can think of is the "Prince t-shirt" mention in Moonwalker.


I don't think Prince hates Mike, but a LOT of Prince fans hate Mike...
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Reply #57 posted 10/15/05 4:24pm

MichaelsLight

krayzie said:

coolcat said:

What's with the references to Michael in "My name is Prince" and "Life O' the Party"... What's with the grudge?

The earliest "issue" I can think of is the "Prince t-shirt" mention in Moonwalker.


I don't think Prince hates Mike, but a LOT of Prince fans hate Mike...


Yes, why is that?
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Reply #58 posted 10/15/05 4:46pm

BEAUGARDE

hellomoto said:

murph said:

Differences

1. Prince writes 98% of whats on the albums, MJ 5%

Murph says...While it's true some of MJ detractors can point to MJ being connected to some of the best producers in the business, it's going too far saying that the man only wrote 5 percent of his albums...I'm sort of in the middle when it comes to critiquing the man's writing output..He wrote the lyrics to some of his best songs (Billie Jean, Beat It, ect...), and this should not be discounted...Unfortunately, people will always something to say about the man because of Q, Temperton, Teddy ect...

you will never give michael the songwriting credit he deserves will you murph? he didnt just 'write the lyrics' to some of his most famous songs, he wrote the whole fucking tune. he wrote the music, the melody the lyrics too. 95 % of his biggest hits he wrote purely by himself, written and composed you name it, some of them he even produced. i like you murph, im just sick of you downplaying michaels songwriting skills

95%, please name the songs!!!!
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Reply #59 posted 10/15/05 5:05pm

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tane1976 said:

cool Because hes sick of being compared to Jacko, they are not similar, the only similarity is they were both black and look quite white now. And they dance and are reclusive.

Differences

1. Prince writes 98% of whats on the albums, MJ 5%
2. Prince 44 Albums, Jacko less than 10
3. Jacko sold more records (Brainwashed more people)
4. Jacko only sings slick pop, Prince has tried most styles.
5. Prince dosen't fuck little boys
6. Prince dosen't have a pet chimpanzee, zoo, hyperbaric chamber etc.
7. Prince looks real, Jacko sci fi nightmare
8. Prince heaps of women, Jacko two surrogate mothers and several boys.
9. Prince still kicks ass, Jacko washed up.
10. How many side acts has Michael produced?
11. Prince no controlling family, MJ Joseph no comment
12. Prince, Tyka: Michael, Rebbie, Jackie, Tito, Jermaine, La Toya, Marlon, Randy, Janet
And I know I will get death mails from Jacko fans who r innocent, but thats the breaks. I am just trying to prove their differences, a reason why people mix the two is because they are black and huge megastars (ie a few of the black people whites chose to notice in the 80's.

There is only one Prince, insist on the geniune article.


I'm so tired of people like this, and that's all I have to say about this subject.
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