In a way I kinda dislike the term 'fake' when applied to these tracks, as in
the vast majority of cases the artists who did record them were not trying to
pass themselves off as Prince. It's fans either deliberately or ignorantly
mislabeling audio files that cause these issues.

With regard to Seamore Funk, you can catch some of his Prince/Rick James/
James Brown influenced tracks here: http://www.thenewpower.co...nloads.htm

BorisFishpaw said:

I notice he's recently signed up as a member here too.

I agree with you about the 'fake' label. In the case of 'Seamore Funk', for example, he made it abundantly clear on the website space that he used to promote his recordings previously, that he was heavily influenced by Prince and others, and his work was someting of a tribute to his musical imspirations.
.

just checked out this seamore cats stuff...all i can say is...WHY ???

I thought "Sleazy" from the Rude Boy CD as mentioned by langebleu, was genuine, being just a small snippet from a rehearsal?

langebleu said:

That is correct. But then, where did the rumour come from? The track actually sounds Princy.

Miller is, as u know, a big Prince-fan by the way.

Maybe we should define what a fake is ?
Or what different kind of fakes exist ?

my proposition :

"real circulated fakes" = songs made or re-made by a fans or a boots label
most of the time instrumentals, sometimes sing by a impersanator with or without voice effects.

+ Pickle (madhouse outtake) p2p
+ yo freaky ass = on my knees p2p
+ Lips 2 find U p2p
+ Nasty little witch
+ If i had a harem ("demo version"/ with acoustic guitar) "the work volII disc4"
+ 7 ("outtake")
+ Sensitivity
+ Hot sauce "big tall wall"
+ America (instrumental version) "Rude Boy"
+ Ozymandius Overture (Ozymandia's Overture)
+ Heaven Over U
+ People Without Instrumental "Rude Boy"
+ My Lord = The lord's prayer "Rude Boy"
+ Paisley Park instrumental "Rude Boy"
+ Underground "Rude Boy"
+ Livin In America "Rude Boy"
+ lips o mine
+ stil i love u
+ cat stratch
+ stranger
+ Tinkerbell jazz
+ Naughty
+ Moments "apotheosis"
+ Data bank (made with the released version & the circulating outtake)
+ my name is prince # 1 ("outtake") "rare2prince"
+ my name is prince # 2 ("outtake") "rare2prince"
+untitled instrumental #1 1:26 (= "trouble" or "so fine") Studio Nights / Sound 80 disc-II track 15
+untitled instrumental #2 4:33 (= "trouble" or "so fine") Studio Nights / Sound 80 disc-II track 16
+Jam 1 (7:15) P2p
+Jam 2 (1:24) P2p

+2 tracks from "uncuts diamonds" are believed 2 be different from their released versions but it's only because they're playing too slow)



Fake "Officials remixes" ( remixes made by fan or boots label)
-----

+ The sacrifice of victor (kirk J remix) "Versace and Other Experiences"
+ Erotic city (kirk J remix)
+ Contreversy (kirk J remix) "Versace and Other Experiences"
+ Sign O The Times "Bailey edit" "Apotheosis"
+ Sign o the times "King/lewin re-edit" "Apotheosis"
+ Soul Psychodelicide (Fuzztone Mix) "Hollywood Affair"
+ Soul Psychodelicide (Kim's Mix) "Hollywood Affair"
+ Violet the organ grinder (remix) 4'59

+ Fake Batman Remixes "Globequake"
Batdance
Electric Chair
Lemon Crush
Sex
Partyman
I Love U In Me
Trust
200 Balloons

"Imaginary fakes" (just titles not circulated trax)
-----
Vanity 6 songs
"Come On Now children"
"Harder Babe"
http://www.uptown.se/2005...o_22.shtml
The first edition of Per also included information on a second, unreleased Vanity 6 album, including the tracks "Harder Babe" and "Come On Now Children. This information also came from the Controversy fanzine and has since been verified to be false.

The Time songs (?)
"My Slippery Shoes"
"Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Wolf?"



"Mistake fakes" Songs by composed by others (related or not) artists but believe to be prince songs
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+ Suzie Lovelace (by Brown Mark) "Studio nights"
+ Do Anything (by Natural Selection)
+ the H-man : real name "Amandla" (by Miles davis - Amandla 1991) "crucial"
+ Qualified Kiss - album version (by loïs Lane) (Prince later remix this song) "Lisa Your Love Is So Hard"
+ Different Kinda Thing (by Tony Le Mans)
+ Help me Baby - (the band name is in "TIU 2.0" (the book) ) "apotheosis"
+ I could be your Lover - (the band name is in "TIU 2.0" (the book) ) "apotheosis"

+ the kim basinger tracks (maybe Kim basinger but not prince compositions) "Hollywood affair"
Come On
My Love Will Find U
I Wanna
2 Naughty
Love At First Sight
Show Me
Action Action
Color Of Sex
Will U Stay With Me

+ Ingrid Chavez Skyfish Tracks (Ingrid Chavez but not prince compositions)
In The Heart Of Friends
Jumping Into Each Other
Voices In Prayer
Tightrope
Barefoot Babes
My Blue Heaven

+Seamore Funk
R U Horny?
Yo kinda man
Do ya like ya wanna be done
Sexy as you wanna be
Some of me
Pretty bitch

+ George clinton "hey man ..." outtakes

+ Rosie Gaines "concrete jungle" outtakes



Fake titles (make to believe it's a new track :b ) or tentatives titles
-----
+ "inside of you" = the grand progression
+ "so high" = purple music
+ "semi-a-collia" or "soulia collia" = rebirth of the flesh
+ "the ball" = crystal ball (not 2 b confused with the song "The ball")
+ "expert lover" = crystal ball
+ "Welcome 2 the Rat Race" = in a large room with light
+ "backmask" = reversed "darling nikki" outro
+ "2 be alive" = edit of "Feline rehearsal"
+ "Sleazy" = part of 1983 rehearsal



I don't know 4those tracks
'Oh Sheila'
LOVER'S SONG
Hey Hannigan"
feelin' kinda freaky
69 positions
A love bizzarre (T-Rek Freakshow Disco Mix)
[Edited 7/20/05 23:37pm]
[Edited 7/21/05 23:49pm]

Hello,

I've had 2 wait 5 days 2 post here.
It's been eating me up.
I've wanted 2 write something kinda bad.
I use 2 record under the psuedonym, Seamore Funk.
I use TheNewPower.Com now.
Those are my songs ur speaking of.
They use stay at the top of the charts on mp3.com (back when the site was hot).
A lot of u downloaded them and assumed they were Prince or Prince fakes.
People labeled them as Prince's and then shared them on the net.
I never said I was Prince. I didn't label them like that.
My tracks are not fakes.
I wrote, produced, and performed them all. About 600 to date.
I'm not tryin' 2 be Prince.
I was influenced by him, though.
As well as The Bar-Kays, Ohio Players, The Time, James Brown, Zapp, EW&F, P-Funk,Sly Stone, Al Green, The Staple Singers, & Curtis Mayfield to name a few.
Prince is the baddest of all Time....No doubt !!
I never meant any disrespect.
U really can't help who you've been influenced by.
He sounds like all of his influences, as well.
No one labels his music as James Brown fakes, Little Richard fakes, Beatles fakes, Sly and The Family Stone fakes, or even Hendrix fakes.
We're all products of our influences.
http://www.thenewpower.co...nloads.htm

New Power - I don't know if it's my computer or what but I can't play your songs on your site. Why did you have to wait 5 days to post and why did you change your name? Just wondering.

i saw the title "Moments" mentioned. is this not a prince track ? it sounds like his version of "sad boy playing a piano", 2 me. if this ain't prince, then, who is it ? sounds 2 me like they did they're homework.

I Love Rhonda Joy,
James Aaron
[Edited 7/20/05 22:25pm]

thenewpower said:

i can't hear yo shit, baby. U gotz 2 share it with us, if u that funky as 2 be confused with, then U gotz 2 give ne some examples. maybe we can make yo' ass rich. main thang is, i want 2 hear it, BTW, who is that on the bass vocal on Sticky, Hot, and Wet ?


I Love Rhonda Joy,
James Aaron

What up Musicology ?

That's me. I wrote, produced, & performed all of those tracks.
I've got about 500 more.

Thanx !!

Bigtime fan,

After I registered for this site and tried to post in the forum, I got a message that said I was not allowed to post if i had signed up in the past 5 days. So for 5 days I tried to post, but had no luck.

I changed my name because I started publishing a rap/r&b magazine called The New Power. I figured, what's a good way to draw people to my site ? Call myself TheNewPower.Com And everytime they see or hear the name, they'll see or hear my web address.

The player on the site is really a flash player. U may not have one installed on your computer. U can get it here http://www.macromedia.com

musicology74 said:

That "Moments" thing is called "Minneapolis #2" which was released by Wendy & Lisa (it's Lisa playing it...) back in 1990 on a 3" bonus disc accompanying their "Eroica" release...

"Moments" (or "Minneapolis #2) was mistakenly labeled by idiot bootleggers as the piano intro to the "Dream Factory" album...
The piano intro to the "Dream Factory" album was called "Visions" and was actually another piece released by Wendy & Lisa as "Minneapolis #1" on the same disc, hence the mix up by dumbass bootleggers who are too stupid to do some work...

Neversin.

http://www.housequake.com...adid=47237


0t0matic said

althom said:

Sorta. Basinger recorded an album at PP, tenatively titled The Colour of Sex. It had some Prince involvement, but the whole project was scuttled when they split up. To my knowledge, none of the tracks still exist, and any boots purported to be from it are simply fakes.

lawd...i'm so confused....

squirrelgrease said:

Hehehe, I remember being totally pleased by finding "The Black Album" on CD in the "Prince" department of the local record store. Only to find out that some person had been trying to totally recreate that album, boy was that a disappointment!

Anyway, I didn't buy it back then but lately I have started to regret that fact. So if anyone can hook me up with a CD-R copy???

althom said:

Um... she is on the Scandalous Sex Suite.

thenewpower said:

I know all the lyrics to "Yo Kinda Man" :love that song. I thought it was P at the first moment then after it was off, I knew it wasnt. Very cool song.


Now let's get to the biscuits...



ALL OVER YOU - Stevie Knicks & Prince ???? FAKE!!???

Moonwalker: Lovers Song, I believe is a fake too.

Ding Dong the Wicked Witch is Dead

Although very Prince sounding with a definitive Minneapolis feel 2 it (especially in the Hornz section) this song was not done by Prince

Hey thanx 4 the compliment on my song "Yo Kinda Man."
Here's some more http://www.thenewpower.co...nloads.htm

Ifsixwuz9 said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:

Ask Rude, he knows it's real... Hehehe...

Neversin.

thenewpower said:

would u let me everything thaaat I can...FUNKY

i don't know any im sorry.
[Edited 8/20/05 16:13pm]

How about 'Heart Of Stone'?
That one popped up fairly recently - in a really good quality too.
Still, it's not in the Vault book + it's difficult to place it in a particular Prince period.
Anybody knows anything more about this ???

Ymaginatif said:

It's called "Stone" and it's from the "Emancipation" sessions...

Neversin.

Ha, thanks for that, Neversin.
It's definitely genuine then ?
It sounds very different from other Emancipation tracks. It's like the simple pop track some people wish Prince would make (that's why I was disinclined to accept it as real). I suppose he *was* trying very hard to make a radio-friendly hit there?
Do you know whether it was meant for somebody else? Whether it ever was on the Emancipation tracklist?

Ymaginatif said:

Don't know, it sounds like a typical Prince demo...

Neversin.

uh uuum.. I believe Sirnoze asked about "All Over U" w/ Stevie knicks