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Thread started 10/18/04 12:25pm

Dazza

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CAMILLE

Hi,

I know it's probably a very old topic, but what was the tracklisting for the Camille album that went to test-pressing?

Plus, are there any other Camille outakes other than Rebirth of the Flesh?

I'm having a Camille-fest at the moment. I really love the songs from that era.
Green virgin teenager, or filthy rich yuppy. Pussy cat pussy cat, where for out thou puppy
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Reply #1 posted 10/18/04 12:31pm

Dazza

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DON'T WORRY

I've just discovered Databank.org and found the listing myself.

Never thought of Good Love as a Camille track
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Reply #2 posted 10/18/04 12:36pm

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I was asking about the Camille songs recently as well. This info is from prinssi:

***Camille November 5th 1986
Album sequenced:

Side 1:
01. Rebirth Of The Flesh
02. Housequake
03. Strange Relationship
04. Feel U Up
Side 2:
05. Shockadelica
06. Good Love
07. If I Was Your Girlfreind
08. Rockhard In A Funky Place


That's the Camille album, but there are plenty of other songs in which Prince uses his sped-up vocal technique. I have yet to see a comprehensive list of all those songs. Erotic City etc...
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Reply #3 posted 10/18/04 12:38pm

ChaosMage

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Dazza said:

DON'T WORRY

I've just discovered Databank.org and found the listing myself.

Never thought of Good Love as a Camille track



Ah... I was too late.

Still, "Good Love" is one of my all-time favs. High-energy, up-tempo and lots of interesting vocal stuff. I would rate it among "Camille's" best work.
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Reply #4 posted 10/18/04 12:46pm

NouveauDance

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The tracklist got posted every couple of days here, so thankfully paisleypark4's thread was made sticky (at the very top) - you can find W.I.P. tracklistings for many projects there, including Camille, which was the final known configuration (config. of that elusive test pressing!)

Versions were same as released:

01. Rebirth Of The Flesh - As circulating minus the "welcome 2 the Crystal Ball ending).
02. Housequake - As SOTT
03. Strange Relationship - As SOTT
04. Feel U Up - Long Stroke
Side 2:
05. Shockadelica - Extended
06. Good Love - Bright Lights Big City (CB is an edit)
07. If I Was Your Girlfreind - As SOTT minus the wedding intro (source: Boris)
08. Rockhard In A Funky Place - As TBA

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Reply #5 posted 10/18/04 12:59pm

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Reply #6 posted 10/18/04 1:02pm

paintsprayer

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ChaosMage said:

I was asking about the Camille songs recently as well. This info is from prinssi:

***Camille November 5th 1986
Album sequenced:

Side 1:
01. Rebirth Of The Flesh
02. Housequake
03. Strange Relationship
04. Feel U Up
Side 2:
05. Shockadelica
06. Good Love
07. If I Was Your Girlfreind
08. Rockhard In A Funky Place


That's the Camille album, but there are plenty of other songs in which Prince uses his sped-up vocal technique. I have yet to see a comprehensive list of all those songs. Erotic City etc...



Just being a sped up voice does not make the song Camille. A lot of this list had Camille versions of the songs, wait till you hear the Camillle Housequake.
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Reply #7 posted 10/18/04 2:11pm

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Some songs on Sign O The Times are also attributed to Camille; U Got The Look beside the ones that also were on the Camille album.

But also Scarlet Pussy...

And I was thinking... would Camille be an alter ego Prince would wanna use again as a template to create some new music?

Or do you think the alter ego days are over?
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Reply #8 posted 10/18/04 2:17pm

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GooeyTheHamster said:

Some songs on Sign O The Times are also attributed to Camille; U Got The Look beside the ones that also were on the Camille album.

But also Scarlet Pussy...

And I was thinking... would Camille be an alter ego Prince would wanna use again as a template to create some new music?

Or do you think the alter ego days are over?


Which along with the tracks that make up the LP, total the complete officiallly attributed Camille tracks - Erotic City, Love or $, (Eye Like) Funky Music, Crystal Ball, Bob George etc, are just tracks that use altered vocal techniques (just clarifying that in general, not specifically for you Gooey).


GooeyTheHamster said:


And I was thinking... would Camille be an alter ego Prince would wanna use again as a template to create some new music?

Or do you think the alter ego days are over?


You got the narrator on TRC shrug
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Reply #9 posted 10/18/04 2:34pm

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NouveauDance said:

GooeyTheHamster said:

Some songs on Sign O The Times are also attributed to Camille; U Got The Look beside the ones that also were on the Camille album.

But also Scarlet Pussy...


Which along with the tracks that make up the LP, total the complete officiallly attributed Camille tracks - Erotic City, Love or $, (Eye Like) Funky Music, Crystal Ball, Bob George etc, are just tracks that use altered vocal techniques (just clarifying that in general, not specifically for you Gooey).


Indeed the name Camille was just invented for a certain project, not specifically for any song using the technique.


NouveauDance said:

GooeyTheHamster said:


And I was thinking... would Camille be an alter ego Prince would wanna use again as a template to create some new music?

Or do you think the alter ego days are over?


You got the narrator on TRC shrug


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Reply #10 posted 10/19/04 8:00am

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Indeed the name Camille was just invented for a certain project, not specifically for any song using the technique.



Yeah sure, you're right of course, but what are we supposed to call that technique? Isn't "the Camille voice" kind of the obvious way to describe it?

Also, does anyone know exactly how many songs use that technique? I thought it was just a few, but there seem to be more than I was aware of.
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Reply #11 posted 10/19/04 10:10am

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ChaosMage said:

Indeed the name Camille was just invented for a certain project, not specifically for any song using the technique.



Yeah sure, you're right of course, but what are we supposed to call that technique? Isn't "the Camille voice" kind of the obvious way to describe it?

Also, does anyone know exactly how many songs use that technique? I thought it was just a few, but there seem to be more than I was aware of.


I think we have named most of them on this thread.
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Reply #12 posted 10/19/04 10:21am

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On the Lovesexy tour, during "Bob George", Prince says his name is "Camille" - so I guess we could say that is a Camille track.

Wasn't "I Like Funky Music" attributed to Camille? I may be wrong.

Dammit, I wish he would write an autobiography and tell us the whole story behind that stuff.
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Reply #13 posted 10/19/04 10:31am

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billymeade said:

On the Lovesexy tour, during "Bob George", Prince says his name is "Camille" - so I guess we could say that is a Camille track.
We could, but I won't.

billymeade said:

Wasn't "I Like Funky Music" attributed to Camille? I may be wrong.
No and yes.

billymeade said:

Dammit, I wish he would write an autobiography and tell us the whole story behind that stuff.
There's always dreams. But it is best left unexplained. Leave something to the imagination...
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Reply #14 posted 10/19/04 10:37am

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Well apart from on 1999, I think the first time we really hear it is on Erotic City, and Prince has said in the past that that was inspired by George Clinton (did he record it after seeing him live? I forget on that point).

Any way, the speeded up/down vocal thing was all over Parliament/Funkadelic records, so I guess that's where Prince picked it up from.

As for the character, well the songs represented show Prince in a party mood, a naughty mood - the practical joker, the kinky side, but also the vulnerable side - this is Prince at his most androgynous.

And I guess that's what it's all about, Prince playing with that theme of cultural gender roles, and twisting them, turning them on their head, and just plain bending them (gender bender wink ) - Just as he had done previously with his visual image, clothes and lyrics.

The whole thing about Hercule Barbin (the 19th century hermaphrodite), I dunno that was brought up once, in the mid-90s in an interview, and Prince didn't expound very much other than to congratulate the questioner on his friends moxy - So I wouldn't say Camille was inspired by Hercule Barbin, just that Hercule was a hermaphrodite, and that Camille is also androgynous (yet clearly male).

Whatever Camille is, he's one of the most damn interesting and quality parts of Prince's entire recording career, to me, at least smile


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Reply #15 posted 10/19/04 4:28pm

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I found this

lol

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Reply #16 posted 10/19/04 5:18pm

NouveauDance

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Oh lawd!! lol

Before it enters online-myth, and we get another 68 threads on the matter, that is only a FAN-made cover!! razz
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