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Thread started 06/19/02 8:05am

Nep2nes

The song "Crystal Ball"

I am surprised it hardly ever gets talked about. Its one of the most creative Prince songs, IMO. I love how u get totally lost in the song and how it meanders...then goes right back 2 the beginning sounds!

The song is like 11 minutes long, but it feels like 4 minutes 2 me! Normally when he tries 2 get creative it drags and gets long-winded. ("The Rainbow Children")

Could this be the longest Prince song ever:?: Anyone know? cool
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Reply #1 posted 06/19/02 8:14am

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Reply #2 posted 06/19/02 8:15am

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This is one of my all time faves. The original stripped down version, not the version that made it to the official release on the album "Crystal Ball". This song really does show Prince's genius. It's such a strange gem but it really is Prince at his finest. The original Crystal Ball album would have flat out kicked ass!
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Reply #3 posted 06/19/02 8:17am

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Nep2nes said:

I am surprised it hardly ever gets talked about. Its one of the most creative Prince songs, IMO. I love how u get totally lost in the song and how it meanders...then goes right back 2 the beginning sounds!

The song is like 11 minutes long, but it feels like 4 minutes 2 me! Normally when he tries 2 get creative it drags and gets long-winded. ("The Rainbow Children")

Could this be the longest Prince song ever:?: Anyone know? cool



The longest song would be probably The War (20 minutes or something like that)... although it's a live performance, so maybe it doesn't count

anyway, Crystal Ball IS a great song indeed... very creative and a bit crazy, but very impressive at the same time... leaves you moved
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Reply #4 posted 06/19/02 8:20am

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agarze--Ive never heard The War. cry Sadly, cuz I heard it was pretty wild.
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Reply #5 posted 06/19/02 8:25am

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Reply #6 posted 06/19/02 8:26am

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I also think Crystal Ball is amazing and intriguing, it is definitely one of my favourites... I never tire of it,
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Reply #7 posted 06/19/02 8:31am

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Nep2nes said:

I am surprised it hardly ever gets talked about. Its one of the most creative Prince songs, IMO. I love how u get totally lost in the song and how it meanders...then goes right back 2 the beginning sounds!

The song is like 11 minutes long, but it feels like 4 minutes 2 me! Normally when he tries 2 get creative it drags and gets long-winded. ("The Rainbow Children")

Could this be the longest Prince song ever:?: Anyone know? cool


It's a classic. Any fool can see that...

As you just proved.
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Reply #8 posted 06/19/02 8:32am

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agarze said:

Nep2nes said:

I am surprised it hardly ever gets talked about. Its one of the most creative Prince songs, IMO. I love how u get totally lost in the song and how it meanders...then goes right back 2 the beginning sounds!

The song is like 11 minutes long, but it feels like 4 minutes 2 me! Normally when he tries 2 get creative it drags and gets long-winded. ("The Rainbow Children")

Could this be the longest Prince song ever:?: Anyone know? cool



The longest song would be probably The War (20 minutes or something like that)... although it's a live performance, so maybe it doesn't count

anyway, Crystal Ball IS a great song indeed... very creative and a bit crazy, but very impressive at the same time... leaves you moved


Wonder if we'll ever get to hear it performed live?
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Reply #9 posted 06/19/02 8:34am

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Crystal Ball - Together with Adore my favorite Prince song. It's just incredible. Those strings on it. The bass solo. The guitar. The drums. It's unbelievable that it's all him. I mean, take a song like Sexy Dancer, that's understandable to do alone, but this one...oh my! None of the "Prince-wanna-bs" can do that!
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Reply #10 posted 06/19/02 8:35am

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Nep2nes said:

agarze--Ive never heard The War. cry Sadly, cuz I heard it was pretty wild.


no problem for you to hear it smile
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Reply #11 posted 06/19/02 8:35am

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Essence said:

agarze said:

Nep2nes said:

I am surprised it hardly ever gets talked about. Its one of the most creative Prince songs, IMO. I love how u get totally lost in the song and how it meanders...then goes right back 2 the beginning sounds!

The song is like 11 minutes long, but it feels like 4 minutes 2 me! Normally when he tries 2 get creative it drags and gets long-winded. ("The Rainbow Children")

Could this be the longest Prince song ever:?: Anyone know? cool



The longest song would be probably The War (20 minutes or something like that)... although it's a live performance, so maybe it doesn't count

anyway, Crystal Ball IS a great song indeed... very creative and a bit crazy, but very impressive at the same time... leaves you moved


Wonder if we'll ever get to hear it performed live?



Just recently I thought about this. Imagine how great it would be to hear this "string break" (you know, before he sings "my baby lick me") live with a full string section.
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Reply #12 posted 06/19/02 8:35am

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agarze said:

Nep2nes said:

agarze--Ive never heard The War. cry Sadly, cuz I heard it was pretty wild.


no problem for you to hear it smile


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Reply #13 posted 06/19/02 9:11am

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I love it & it doesnt seem long enough to me!! smile
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Reply #14 posted 06/19/02 9:16am

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I was listening to it last night and enjoyed it.
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Reply #15 posted 06/19/02 9:22am

Nep2nes

darababyd---I love that cd in ur avatar. The Classic Metropolitan Orchestra ROCKS! cool

2 bad the back-up singers have accents...it sounds kind of funny hearing them sing Little Red Corvette. lol
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Reply #16 posted 06/19/02 9:32am

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Anything from the 1986 to 1987 recording period when the songs from Dream Factory, Camille, Crystal Ball, and Sign "O" The Times is the best that Prince has had to offer. Listen to:

Joy In Repetition
Baby Go Go
Others Here With Us
Big Tall Wall
HouseQuake
U Got The Look
Feel U Up
Shockadelica
La La La Hee Hee Hee
The Ball

And the list goes on and on and on
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Reply #17 posted 06/19/02 10:24am

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So what exactly does he mean when he asks his xpert lover if she's ever had a crytal ball...anyone know the reference...
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Reply #18 posted 06/19/02 10:31am

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IstenSzek said:


Imagine a frozen forest, lucid crystal people, vampires on crack and an aboriginal tooting his hose on a raft in the middle of a pitchblack lake. Fleshed out with alternating images of Prince running half-clad thru a ruin filled with illusive artwork and scarcely dressed women.



I can't imagine any of that, I'm still thinking about your smooth hairless chest.

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Reply #19 posted 06/19/02 10:35am

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Perhaps some of the weakest lyrics of his career are coupled with some of the best music of his career in this song.

I don't understand why people say they prefer the original though. To me, the string arrangement is essential to this song. That's what adds all the tension and drama!

An absolute masterpiece.
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Reply #20 posted 06/19/02 10:36am

endorphin74

Such a good song, I was sooo happy to finally have it on a cd, as my bootleg from back in the day is starting to wear out.

Question, on my bootleg the trax are listed as:
Pretty Face- Girl of My Dream-I Can't Stop- We Can Funk- Movie Starr- Heaven- Joy in Repetition- Crystal Ball- Feel U Up- Rebirth of the Flesh and Expert Lover

The "Crystal Ball" track is actually a faster dance song with a spoken intro in Camille voice ("welcome 2 the Crystal Ball, got a notion about the way things are? give 'em up! come on y'all") and a fade out that is a rough version of the segue from Eye No to Alphabet St on Lovesexy. "Expert Lover" is the 11 minute opus that was released as "Crystal Ball" on the 3 cd set...Anybody have more info on these two tracks? or whatever happened to the "dancey" Crystal Ball?

I've long wondered about this...
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Reply #21 posted 06/19/02 10:40am

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The real name of the "dancey" Crystal Ball is simply titled "The Ball". This of course later became "Eye No" from the Lovesexy album.
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Reply #22 posted 06/19/02 11:07am

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Crystal Ball is my third favorite song of all-time. It's a stroke of pure genius.
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Reply #23 posted 06/19/02 11:09am

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Crystal Ball is tight, and I love the album sequence that has it followed up by Dream Factory, a great start to that compilation! Although I usually skip the next track and head straight to Rippop', I heard him do a version of Acknowledge me on some kinda Bandstand'ish TV show when the Beautiful Experience was out, that was slower and much funkier. That version stomped the hell out of the Crystal Ball version and I was really dissapointed when I heard the new one. Anyone know which mix of Acknowledge Me I'm speaking of, I believe on the same show Prince performed the Mustang Mix of Most Beautiful Girl too. It might've been on Soultrain or something.
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Reply #24 posted 06/19/02 11:28am

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I like the layered up version (Crystal Ball) much better than the stripped down one,

The stripped down one was never intended to be put on an album, from what I read, he always wanted to add the strings and orchestral tracks.

I love The Ball, and Rebirth of the Flesh.
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Reply #25 posted 06/19/02 11:42am

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yes it was soul train. i think the songs are not noticeably different. i was dissapointed that the mustang mix didnt make it on gold. or acknowledge me for that matter. the song crystal ball is kind of weird but it pulls you into it. when i first bought the set, iwould skip that song everytime. then once i finally listened to it i couldnt stop. also the stripped down version of we can funk is far superior to what is on graffiti bridge.
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Reply #26 posted 06/19/02 11:44am

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I also had a set like this. Maybe two even. smile The one I remember is Royal Jewels. At the bottom it says (dedicated to all the Ryal Concubines) or something like that. It ws a great 3album set for the time, but sounded like pure shit. It was my first real bootleg except for my copy of the Black Album, so I thought itw as the best and it has a special place in my heart. (awww!)

Anyway, incorrect song names are very commonplace in the bootleg comunnity. smile



endorphin74 said:

Such a good song, I was sooo happy to finally have it on a cd, as my bootleg from back in the day is starting to wear out.

Question, on my bootleg the trax are listed as:
Pretty Face- Girl of My Dream-I Can't Stop- We Can Funk- Movie Starr- Heaven- Joy in Repetition- Crystal Ball- Feel U Up- Rebirth of the Flesh and Expert Lover

The "Crystal Ball" track is actually a faster dance song with a spoken intro in Camille voice ("welcome 2 the Crystal Ball, got a notion about the way things are? give 'em up! come on y'all") and a fade out that is a rough version of the segue from Eye No to Alphabet St on Lovesexy. "Expert Lover" is the 11 minute opus that was released as "Crystal Ball" on the 3 cd set...Anybody have more info on these two tracks? or whatever happened to the "dancey" Crystal Ball?

I've long wondered about this...
[This message was edited Wed Jun 19 10:39:25 PDT 2002 by endorphin74]
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Reply #27 posted 06/19/02 11:59am

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Could this be the longest Prince song ever:?: Anyone know? cool



The longest song would be probably The War (20 minutes or something like that)... although it's a live performance, so maybe it doesn't count

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The longest recorded, released, studio Prince song is America, clocking in at about 21 minutes on the 12" single release.
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Reply #28 posted 06/19/02 12:02pm

JDODSON

Both versions are cool, I have them both. I like the first because you can hear whats going on a little better, but the second is very well arranged with the strings. Both are great!!

Peace,

JD
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Reply #29 posted 06/19/02 12:11pm

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Longest PRince Song ever:

released: America (ext)
unreleased: Billys Snuglasses.

Well...Soulpsychodelicide/IceCream Castles rehersal lasts a long time too... hrmmm
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