206Michelle said:

PennyPurple said:

If the Andy thread was pulled, maybe the other appreciation threads need to be pulled too. After all on those, the same people are posting over and over again.

I'm not understanding why we can't EVER have an Andy thread, that talks about her & P's relationship, that isn't pulled.?.

I would LOVE to have an Andy Allo thread that could remain viable as well. Unfortunately, there is one particular orger who appears to try to create revisionist history by exaggerating and contriving aspects of Prince and Andy Allo’s relationship that did not exist. Andy was his girlfriend. From 2011-2014, she was a muse and major collaborator with Prince. Andy has a great personality. She’s very musically talented. She’s intelligent and articulate. She’s gorgeous. She had great chemistry on stage with Prince, although so did many other women. . Some examples of exaggerated/contrived assertions that this orger has stated regarding P and AA: -AA was the center of his world personally and professionally from 2011-2016. -P and AA sent cryptic messages to each other via social media. -P made social media posts on Twitter/Instagram indicating that he was in “begging mode” and trying to win back Andy. I’ll believe the above rumors when I hear them from a more reputable source (eg, Andy Allo herself or another member of Prince’s inner circle). As other orgers have mentioned, the orger in question was so fixated on this Prince-Andy Allo fantasy that she contrived to the point that it was creepy. . I would love for there to be an Andy Allo-Prince thread that recognizes AA’s contributions and personal relationship with P while also maintaining discussion that is based in reality, not fantasy.

In 2016 Latin started a very nice thread celebrating their collaborations and some good info was posted in the form of interviews and videos but it was eventually closed down.It seemed at the time,people were saying that there was no proof that he and Andy dated.Now that it's been confirmed, it seems we still can't acknowledge their relationship.I posted some new articles and interviews in the recent thread that I felt gave good insight into their work relationship and friendship as well.There wasn't much speculating going on in the thread,nor fantasizing.We discussed things that had actually happened in the relationship and what they put out there.Prince was focusing again on Andy toward the end of 2015 for some reason with the release of Oui Can Luv and the release of some of their duets on Phase 2.Dr.Funk also hinted in an IG post in Nov.2015 that Prince might have been planning to ask her to join him during his European tour since she was scheduled to be there at the same time for her own.After her show at Avalon,he said he spoke with her and mentioned that a "friend" of theirs was going to be over there at the same time and that she seemed excited about the idea.Some others back then also thought that Prince might have been sending messages to Andy on social media by posting an audio clip of himself singing part of her verse in TIME on IG as well as a clip on Twitter of MonoNeon playing bass to it and Prince's line "I think I need 2 make u my pet and put u in my little cage."along with the caption:SLOW DOWN TIME AND COUNT EVERY KISS URSELF. coincidently he posted that the same day that Andy did a radio interview and spoke very fondly of him and their time together and mentioned that she was "partial to Oui Can Luv" and hoped that the acoustic songs that they did would be heard one day.About a month later,P premiered the Oui Can Luv project on Tidal,calling it "LUVstream."Some did ask him if he was sending messages by doing those things.Andy tweeted about 1000 X's & O's in January 2016 and Prince tweeted back with a cute pic of a Corgi up to his neck in snow,along with a witty reply. Only he and Andy knew for sure, I guess.I think they may have been planning to work together again from what she posted on twitter after he passed,indicating that they had unfinished business.I've also read some interesting things concerning Prince and Andy's relationship recently but like you,I will wait for a reputable source before I believe it.We can only go by what Prince and Andy presented themselves.We do know they were friendly again from what she has said and Prince saw a show of hers in Sept 2015 while in L.A.so again he was focused on her professionally and showing his support.

[Edited 4/8/18 14:03pm]

206Michelle said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Sorry about that.I didn't mean that to read like Susannah didn't have a romantic relationship with him.She was the inspiration for many songs and they were briefly engaged.Prince was "dating" Misty for a little while and he escorted her to a few events,including the Met spring Gala in 2011. Dr.Funk also said in a podcast that he wrote U Will B originally for Misty.She had a boyfriend at the time and it was said that Prince was interested in her romantically but that she didn't feel the same.A lot of us thought they were together back then but it was later revealed that he was with Andy.

[Edited 4/7/18 9:28am]

As OF4S said in another reply, Misty and Prince never dated; they had a professional relationship and a friendship. She accompanied him to a couple of award shows, but that doesn’t mean they dated. . As for U Will B, I’m pretty sure I remember you, pinkcashmere23, and FlyOnTheWall discussing how Andy Allo inspired U Will B on the removed Andy Allo (and Prince) Appreciation thread, but now PC23 has done an about-face. Hmmm.

I was saying that it appeared that he and Misty were dating to the general public but they were only friends.Dr.Funk said on a podcast that Prince was interested in Misty and that U Will B was inspired by Gingerbread Man which was inspired by Bria/Misty.(Dr F's words)Prince changed the instrumentation and the lyrics of U Will B to fit he and Andy's relationship or they may have written them together.The original lyrics were about him winning a woman away from her boyfriend and bragging about his "income compared to his" He still sang it that way through the Welcome 2 Europe tour.The lyrics and melody were changed into a sweet love duet with Andy and it became "their song." Some of the lyrics also seemed to hint at a few rumored unreleased songs at the time and there's a line from Groovy Potential in it as well.

[Edited 4/8/18 13:19pm]

Andy and her camel "Billy"at Petra www.instagram.com/p/Bg-xAPEH2Po

206Michelle said:

PennyPurple said:

If the Andy thread was pulled, maybe the other appreciation threads need to be pulled too. After all on those, the same people are posting over and over again.

I'm not understanding why we can't EVER have an Andy thread, that talks about her & P's relationship, that isn't pulled.?.

I would LOVE to have an Andy Allo thread that could remain viable as well. Unfortunately, there is one particular orger who appears to try to create revisionist history by exaggerating and contriving aspects of Prince and Andy Allo’s relationship that did not exist. Andy was his girlfriend. From 2011-2014, she was a muse and major collaborator with Prince. Andy has a great personality. She’s very musically talented. She’s intelligent and articulate. She’s gorgeous. She had great chemistry on stage with Prince, although so did many other women. . Some examples of exaggerated/contrived assertions that this orger has stated regarding P and AA: -AA was the center of his world personally and professionally from 2011-2016. -P and AA sent cryptic messages to each other via social media. -P made social media posts on Twitter/Instagram indicating that he was in “begging mode” and trying to win back Andy. I’ll believe the above rumors when I hear them from a more reputable source (eg, Andy Allo herself or another member of Prince’s inner circle). As other orgers have mentioned, the orger in question was so fixated on this Prince-Andy Allo fantasy that she contrived to the point that it was creepy. . I would love for there to be an Andy Allo-Prince thread that recognizes AA’s contributions and personal relationship with P while also maintaining discussion that is based in reality, not fantasy.

206Michelle, feel free to refer to me by name, as I am perfectly capable of answering any questions or concerns you might have. And, I stand by each of the assertions I made regarding Prince and Andy.

That said, I was/am not fantasizing. Both of their social media (and news reports) bear out everything I said: 1) From the time Prince met Andy in 2011 until the day he transitioned in 2016, virtually every indicator that I saw pointed to his interest in Andy Allo. For starters, he left a framed photo of her in the Galaxy Room at Paisley Park. I'm told that it is illuminated by a purple light trained on it. (One day soon, I will visit PP for myself and I will then be able to describe that setting definitively.) Moreover, as late as November of 2015, he called a press conference at which he announced the limited streaming release of Oui Can Luv, the sublime collection of covers with Andy singing and he playing acoustic guitar. He reportedly played it for members of the press and displayed a large photo of her on the screen;

2) They did both post social media messages to each other, some cryptic and some direct. And, if the thread(s) had not been removed, I could point you to the evidence.

3) Prince's Instagram post where he looped Andy's verse from "Time," the "Stay with me baby" portion, seemed like a plea to me (and to some others with whom I have discussed it). One person even commented on his "Gram" that it was "heartwrenching." I think that's the term used. And, mind you, Prince was known to delete social media posts, but he left that video up. I jokingly said that Prince was "begging like Keith Sweat." And, IMHO, he was. I mean, what do you think he meant? Perhaps you think it was intended for Mayte?

And speaking of Mayte, I am shocked that you say that I am fantasizing about Prince and Andy, yet I have never seen where you called out as "fantasy" claims that Prince was still in love with Mayte...even though he had not reportedly spoken to Mayte since their divorce, now almost 20 years ago. The one exception might be when she attended one of his shows, at which, he reportedly refused to grant her free tickets. Some orgers even go far enough to say that he moved to LA to be with her...or that Mayte was going to rejoin the band. If that is not speculation, I don't know what is. Do you find that "creepy"?

Lastly, you say that you will believe that Prince and Andy were in a relationship when you hear it from someone in his inner circle. Really? Do you consider Kim Berry part of his inner circle? Didn't she recently confirm that Andy was his girlfriend, as did the recent UK documentary that interviewed and featured Andy???

I'll end with this article from the Star Tribune, considered by most to be a reputable source. It reports on a 2012 Valentine's Dinner at the Dakota with three couples: Mr. and Mrs. Larry Graham, Mr. and Mrs. Bobby Z and "Prince and his girlfriend." It does not name Andy, but it is pretty widely accepted that they were seeing each other at this time. And, for Prince, the Jehovah's Witness, to be associated with Valentine's Day...and taking this "girlfriend" out to dinner with two of his closest friends and their spouses...this must not have been just another fling.

Here's the article:

FlyOnTheWall said:

206Michelle said:

PennyPurple said: I would LOVE to have an Andy Allo thread that could remain viable as well. Unfortunately, there is one particular orger who appears to try to create revisionist history by exaggerating and contriving aspects of Prince and Andy Allo’s relationship that did not exist. Andy was his girlfriend. From 2011-2014, she was a muse and major collaborator with Prince. Andy has a great personality. She’s very musically talented. She’s intelligent and articulate. She’s gorgeous. She had great chemistry on stage with Prince, although so did many other women. . Some examples of exaggerated/contrived assertions that this orger has stated regarding P and AA: -AA was the center of his world personally and professionally from 2011-2016. -P and AA sent cryptic messages to each other via social media. -P made social media posts on Twitter/Instagram indicating that he was in “begging mode” and trying to win back Andy. I’ll believe the above rumors when I hear them from a more reputable source (eg, Andy Allo herself or another member of Prince’s inner circle). As other orgers have mentioned, the orger in question was so fixated on this Prince-Andy Allo fantasy that she contrived to the point that it was creepy. . I would love for there to be an Andy Allo-Prince thread that recognizes AA’s contributions and personal relationship with P while also maintaining discussion that is based in reality, not fantasy.

206Michelle, feel free to refer to me by name, as I am perfectly capable of answering any questions or concerns you might have. And, I stand by each of the assertions I made regarding Prince and Andy.

That said, I was/am not fantasizing. Both of their social media (and news reports) bear out everything I said: 1) From the time Prince met Andy in 2011 until the day he transitioned in 2016, virtually every indicator that I saw pointed to his interest in Andy Allo. For starters, he left a framed photo of her in the Galaxy Room at Paisley Park. I'm told that it is illuminated by a purple light trained on it. (One day soon, I will visit PP for myself and I will then be able to describe that setting definitively.) Moreover, as late as November of 2015, he called a press conference at which he announced the limited streaming release of Oui Can Luv, the sublime collection of covers with Andy singing and he playing acoustic guitar. He reportedly played it for members of the press and displayed a large photo of her on the screen;

2) They did both post social media messages to each other, some cryptic and some direct. And, if the thread(s) had not been removed, I could point you to the evidence.

3) Prince's Instagram post where he looped Andy's verse from "Time," the "Stay with me baby" portion, seemed like a plea to me (and to some others with whom I have discussed it). One person even commented on his "Gram" that it was "heartwrenching." I think that's the term used. And, mind you, Prince was known to delete social media posts, but he left that video up. I jokingly said that Prince was "begging like Keith Sweat." And, IMHO, he was. I mean, what do you think he meant? Perhaps you think it was intended for Mayte?

And speaking of Mayte, I am shocked that you say that I am fantasizing about Prince and Andy, yet I have never seen where you called out as "fantasy" claims that Prince was still in love with Mayte...even though he had not reportedly spoken to Mayte since their divorce, now almost 20 years ago. The one exception might be when she attended one of his shows, at which, he reportedly refused to grant her free tickets. Some orgers even go far enough to say that he moved to LA to be with her...or that Mayte was going to rejoin the band. If that is not speculation, I don't know what is. Do you find that "creepy"?

Lastly, you say that you will believe that Prince and Andy were in a relationship when you hear it from someone in his inner circle. Really? Do you consider Kim Berry part of his inner circle? Didn't she recently confirm that Andy was his girlfriend, as did the recent UK documentary that interviewed and featured Andy???

I'll end with this article from the Star Tribune, considered by most to be a reputable source. It reports on a 2012 Valentine's Dinner at the Dakota with three couples: Mr. and Mrs. Larry Graham, Mr. and Mrs. Bobby Z and "Prince and his girlfriend." It does not name Andy, but it is pretty widely accepted that they were seeing each other at this time. And, for Prince, the Jehovah's Witness, to be associated with Valentine's Day...and taking this "girlfriend" out to dinner with two of his closest friends and their spouses...this must not have been just another fling.

Here's the article:

Prince dines with Bobby Z but will he play with Revolution on Sunday?

By Jon Bream

FEBRUARY 16, 2012 — 2:59PM

Bobby Z (Star Tribune photo by Tom Wallace)

It was Valentine's Day and they had the balcony at the Dakota Jazz Club all to themselves during a performance by the Steeles.

The three couples were Mr. and Mrs. Larry Graham, Mr. and Mrs. Bobby Z and Prince and his girlfriend. Read More...

I believe that Prince posted a link to that clip of him singing Andy's verse in Time twice in 2015 on his Twitter if I recall. He was focused on the song again for some reason, also posting a clip of Mono playing bass to one of his verses "I'm sick and tired of playing hard to get with an animal half my age" with Andy's laugh along with what seemed to be a message above that said: Slow Down Time And Count Every Kiss.Some were wondering then if it was a message to Andy or a hint that they were going to tour together.

[Edited 4/9/18 7:39am]

FlyOnTheWall said:

206Michelle said:

PennyPurple said: I would LOVE to have an Andy Allo thread that could remain viable as well. Unfortunately, there is one particular orger who appears to try to create revisionist history by exaggerating and contriving aspects of Prince and Andy Allo’s relationship that did not exist. Andy was his girlfriend. From 2011-2014, she was a muse and major collaborator with Prince. Andy has a great personality. She’s very musically talented. She’s intelligent and articulate. She’s gorgeous. She had great chemistry on stage with Prince, although so did many other women. . Some examples of exaggerated/contrived assertions that this orger has stated regarding P and AA: -AA was the center of his world personally and professionally from 2011-2016. -P and AA sent cryptic messages to each other via social media. -P made social media posts on Twitter/Instagram indicating that he was in “begging mode” and trying to win back Andy. I’ll believe the above rumors when I hear them from a more reputable source (eg, Andy Allo herself or another member of Prince’s inner circle). As other orgers have mentioned, the orger in question was so fixated on this Prince-Andy Allo fantasy that she contrived to the point that it was creepy. . I would love for there to be an Andy Allo-Prince thread that recognizes AA’s contributions and personal relationship with P while also maintaining discussion that is based in reality, not fantasy.

206Michelle, feel free to refer to me by name, as I am perfectly capable of answering any questions or concerns you might have. And, I stand by each of the assertions I made regarding Prince and Andy.

That said, I was/am not fantasizing. Both of their social media (and news reports) bear out everything I said: 1) From the time Prince met Andy in 2011 until the day he transitioned in 2016, virtually every indicator that I saw pointed to his interest in Andy Allo. For starters, he left a framed photo of her in the Galaxy Room at Paisley Park. I'm told that it is illuminated by a purple light trained on it. (One day soon, I will visit PP for myself and I will then be able to describe that setting definitively.) Moreover, as late as November of 2015, he called a press conference at which he announced the limited streaming release of Oui Can Luv, the sublime collection of covers with Andy singing and he playing acoustic guitar. He reportedly played it for members of the press and displayed a large photo of her on the screen;

2) They did both post social media messages to each other, some cryptic and some direct. And, if the thread(s) had not been removed, I could point you to the evidence.

3) Prince's Instagram post where he looped Andy's verse from "Time," the "Stay with me baby" portion, seemed like a plea to me (and to some others with whom I have discussed it). One person even commented on his "Gram" that it was "heartwrenching." I think that's the term used. And, mind you, Prince was known to delete social media posts, but he left that video up. I jokingly said that Prince was "begging like Keith Sweat." And, IMHO, he was. I mean, what do you think he meant? Perhaps you think it was intended for Mayte?

And speaking of Mayte, I am shocked that you say that I am fantasizing about Prince and Andy, yet I have never seen where you called out as "fantasy" claims that Prince was still in love with Mayte...even though he had not reportedly spoken to Mayte since their divorce, now almost 20 years ago. The one exception might be when she attended one of his shows, at which, he reportedly refused to grant her free tickets. Some orgers even go far enough to say that he moved to LA to be with her...or that Mayte was going to rejoin the band. If that is not speculation, I don't know what is. Do you find that "creepy"?

Lastly, you say that you will believe that Prince and Andy were in a relationship when you hear it from someone in his inner circle. Really? Do you consider Kim Berry part of his inner circle? Didn't she recently confirm that Andy was his girlfriend, as did the recent UK documentary that interviewed and featured Andy???

I'll end with this article from the Star Tribune, considered by most to be a reputable source. It reports on a 2012 Valentine's Dinner at the Dakota with three couples: Mr. and Mrs. Larry Graham, Mr. and Mrs. Bobby Z and "Prince and his girlfriend." It does not name Andy, but it is pretty widely accepted that they were seeing each other at this time. And, for Prince, the Jehovah's Witness, to be associated with Valentine's Day...and taking this "girlfriend" out to dinner with two of his closest friends and their spouses...this must not have been just another fling.

Here's the article:

Prince dines with Bobby Z but will he play with Revolution on Sunday?

By Jon Bream

FEBRUARY 16, 2012 — 2:59PM

Bobby Z (Star Tribune photo by Tom Wallace)

It was Valentine's Day and they had the balcony at the Dakota Jazz Club all to themselves during a performance by the Steeles.

The three couples were Mr. and Mrs. Larry Graham, Mr. and Mrs. Bobby Z and Prince and his girlfriend. Read More...

I said she was girlfriend, I know she was his girlfriend.

206Michelle said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

206Michelle, feel free to refer to me by name, as I am perfectly capable of answering any questions or concerns you might have. And, I stand by each of the assertions I made regarding Prince and Andy.

That said, I was/am not fantasizing. Both of their social media (and news reports) bear out everything I said: 1) From the time Prince met Andy in 2011 until the day he transitioned in 2016, virtually every indicator that I saw pointed to his interest in Andy Allo. For starters, he left a framed photo of her in the Galaxy Room at Paisley Park. I'm told that it is illuminated by a purple light trained on it. (One day soon, I will visit PP for myself and I will then be able to describe that setting definitively.) Moreover, as late as November of 2015, he called a press conference at which he announced the limited streaming release of Oui Can Luv, the sublime collection of covers with Andy singing and he playing acoustic guitar. He reportedly played it for members of the press and displayed a large photo of her on the screen;

2) They did both post social media messages to each other, some cryptic and some direct. And, if the thread(s) had not been removed, I could point you to the evidence.

3) Prince's Instagram post where he looped Andy's verse from "Time," the "Stay with me baby" portion, seemed like a plea to me (and to some others with whom I have discussed it). One person even commented on his "Gram" that it was "heartwrenching." I think that's the term used. And, mind you, Prince was known to delete social media posts, but he left that video up. I jokingly said that Prince was "begging like Keith Sweat." And, IMHO, he was. I mean, what do you think he meant? Perhaps you think it was intended for Mayte?

And speaking of Mayte, I am shocked that you say that I am fantasizing about Prince and Andy, yet I have never seen where you called out as "fantasy" claims that Prince was still in love with Mayte...even though he had not reportedly spoken to Mayte since their divorce, now almost 20 years ago. The one exception might be when she attended one of his shows, at which, he reportedly refused to grant her free tickets. Some orgers even go far enough to say that he moved to LA to be with her...or that Mayte was going to rejoin the band. If that is not speculation, I don't know what is. Do you find that "creepy"?

Lastly, you say that you will believe that Prince and Andy were in a relationship when you hear it from someone in his inner circle. Really? Do you consider Kim Berry part of his inner circle? Didn't she recently confirm that Andy was his girlfriend, as did the recent UK documentary that interviewed and featured Andy???

I'll end with this article from the Star Tribune, considered by most to be a reputable source. It reports on a 2012 Valentine's Dinner at the Dakota with three couples: Mr. and Mrs. Larry Graham, Mr. and Mrs. Bobby Z and "Prince and his girlfriend." It does not name Andy, but it is pretty widely accepted that they were seeing each other at this time. And, for Prince, the Jehovah's Witness, to be associated with Valentine's Day...and taking this "girlfriend" out to dinner with two of his closest friends and their spouses...this must not have been just another fling.

Here's the article:

Prince dines with Bobby Z but will he play with Revolution on Sunday?

By Jon Bream

FEBRUARY 16, 2012 — 2:59PM

Bobby Z (Star Tribune photo by Tom Wallace)

It was Valentine's Day and they had the balcony at the Dakota Jazz Club all to themselves during a performance by the Steeles.

The three couples were Mr. and Mrs. Larry Graham, Mr. and Mrs. Bobby Z and Prince and his girlfriend. Read More...

I said she was girlfriend, I know she was his girlfriend.

Oops. I missed that. I guess I was too focused on the part where you opined that their relationship was a figment of my imagination.

pinkcashmere23 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

206Michelle, feel free to refer to me by name, as I am perfectly capable of answering any questions or concerns you might have. And, I stand by each of the assertions I made regarding Prince and Andy.

That said, I was/am not fantasizing. Both of their social media (and news reports) bear out everything I said: 1) From the time Prince met Andy in 2011 until the day he transitioned in 2016, virtually every indicator that I saw pointed to his interest in Andy Allo. For starters, he left a framed photo of her in the Galaxy Room at Paisley Park. I'm told that it is illuminated by a purple light trained on it. (One day soon, I will visit PP for myself and I will then be able to describe that setting definitively.) Moreover, as late as November of 2015, he called a press conference at which he announced the limited streaming release of Oui Can Luv, the sublime collection of covers with Andy singing and he playing acoustic guitar. He reportedly played it for members of the press and displayed a large photo of her on the screen;

2) They did both post social media messages to each other, some cryptic and some direct. And, if the thread(s) had not been removed, I could point you to the evidence.

3) Prince's Instagram post where he looped Andy's verse from "Time," the "Stay with me baby" portion, seemed like a plea to me (and to some others with whom I have discussed it). One person even commented on his "Gram" that it was "heartwrenching." I think that's the term used. And, mind you, Prince was known to delete social media posts, but he left that video up. I jokingly said that Prince was "begging like Keith Sweat." And, IMHO, he was. I mean, what do you think he meant? Perhaps you think it was intended for Mayte?

And speaking of Mayte, I am shocked that you say that I am fantasizing about Prince and Andy, yet I have never seen where you called out as "fantasy" claims that Prince was still in love with Mayte...even though he had not reportedly spoken to Mayte since their divorce, now almost 20 years ago. The one exception might be when she attended one of his shows, at which, he reportedly refused to grant her free tickets. Some orgers even go far enough to say that he moved to LA to be with her...or that Mayte was going to rejoin the band. If that is not speculation, I don't know what is. Do you find that "creepy"?

Lastly, you say that you will believe that Prince and Andy were in a relationship when you hear it from someone in his inner circle. Really? Do you consider Kim Berry part of his inner circle? Didn't she recently confirm that Andy was his girlfriend, as did the recent UK documentary that interviewed and featured Andy???

I'll end with this article from the Star Tribune, considered by most to be a reputable source. It reports on a 2012 Valentine's Dinner at the Dakota with three couples: Mr. and Mrs. Larry Graham, Mr. and Mrs. Bobby Z and "Prince and his girlfriend." It does not name Andy, but it is pretty widely accepted that they were seeing each other at this time. And, for Prince, the Jehovah's Witness, to be associated with Valentine's Day...and taking this "girlfriend" out to dinner with two of his closest friends and their spouses...this must not have been just another fling.

Here's the article:

Prince dines with Bobby Z but will he play with Revolution on Sunday?

By Jon Bream

FEBRUARY 16, 2012 — 2:59PM

Bobby Z (Star Tribune photo by Tom Wallace)

It was Valentine's Day and they had the balcony at the Dakota Jazz Club all to themselves during a performance by the Steeles.

The three couples were Mr. and Mrs. Larry Graham, Mr. and Mrs. Bobby Z and Prince and his girlfriend. Read More...

I believe that Prince posted a link to that clip of him singing Andy's verse in Time twice in 2015 on his Twitter if I recall. He was focused on the song again for some reason, also posting a clip of Mono playing bass to one of his verses "I'm sick and tired of playing hard to get with an animal half my age" with Andy's laugh along with what seemed to be a message above that said: Slow Down Time And Count Every Kiss Urself.Some were wondering then if it was a message to Andy or a hint that they were going to tour together.

See, that's another example of what I meant when I referred to the cryptic social media posts/messages. Do you know if that tweet is still there, pink?

FlyOnTheWall said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

See, that's another example of what I meant when I referred to the cryptic social media posts/messages. Do you know if that tweet is still there, pink?

Yes,it's still up.It was posted 9.30.15 His actual tweet reads: Free: Slow Down"Time"& Count Every Kiss :Urself I now see that he put the song title Free Urself in the message as well.He may have posted the clip for the one year anniversary of AOA.He must have really loved that song to have kept referencing it so much.He also did a beautiful rendition during the P&M show in Sydney.With Prince seeing Andy's show that month in L.A.,he may have decided to pull out some of the songs they did together.I found his tweet about LUVSTREAM for the premiere of Oui Can Luv as well.He tweeted:Spoiler Alert:Everyone Please Resist Urge 2 Listen 2 Luvstream Until We All Do 2Gether At The Park.K,Please? and he tweeted a pic of Puss' n Boots from Shrek.If you type #LUVSTREAM in the search it should come up.

[Edited 4/9/18 13:01pm]

FlyOnTheWall said:

sharpieheartz said:

Susu1976 said:

sharpieheartz said:

I read somewhere that that purple photo of them gazing at each other from the balcony of the Dakota Jazz Club was taken that night. Later on that night, Prince was seen fleeing to his limo carrying Andy’s coat: https://instagram.com/p/z8Tg3Injlf/

Allusions do not facts make. You can sell and sell but I can put my hand on the Bible and say what you're putting out there is unequivocally false. You NOT know the whole truth so stop selling your interpretation as such. I don't know your motives and I don't care. However, NOBODY does what you few do without an agenga. You will NEVER know the whole truth no matter how much you spin it. Keep in mind, as banal as your little games may be, there might be a story that you know nothing about and it might not be so banal to some other people. Anonymity is a fun thing but when you haven't been there or seem to have any grasp on the whole picture, not only does it make you look foolish but it also can have an impact on people who might want to keep their mouths shut but are also closer to the truth than you ever will.

Prince acknowledging Andy as his girlfriend seems to upset you for some reason.We're only discussing what Prince revealed to the public himself.It is very interesting why he continued to do those things,such as leaving her framed photo up in the Galaxy room after their perceived breakup and posting clips of songs that they did,releasing Oui Can Luv with a big picture of her displayed in the NPG room?Why Andy? Why was he so focused on her? Why would Prince care about helping Andy with her image or promoting her career when they were no longer dating or working together? Andy owns Superconductor so Prince wouldn't make any money off of promoting it or Oui Can Luv.Her EP Hello had no involvement from him yet he still promoted it,along with her StageIts and other shows.They must have been very close friends for him to go to all of that trouble.

[Edited 4/8/18 19:50pm]

pinkcashmere23 said:

Susu1976 said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Prince acknowledging Andy as his girlfriend seems to upset you for some reason.We're only discussing what Prince revealed to the public himself.It is very interesting why he continued to do those things,such as leaving her framed photo up in the Galaxy room after their perceived breakup and posting clips of songs that they did,releasing Oui Can Luv with a big picture of her displayed in the NPG room?Why Andy? Why was he so focused on her? Why would Prince care about helping Andy with her image or promoting her career when they were no longer dating or working together? Andy owns Superconductor so Prince wouldn't make any money off of promoting it or Oui Can Luv.Her EP Hello had no involvement from him yet he still promoted it,along with her StageIts and other shows.They must have been very close friends for him to go to all of that trouble.

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No, honey, what "upsets" me is people who lie. Convoluted sentences still don't take you any closer to truth. It's y'all who seem to get the panties in the twist when OMG! someone disagrees with your narrative, not other way around. Btw, Prince never publicly said Andy was his gf at any time. I'm not going on to engage in infantile tit-for-tat with you, everyone has already seen you will never stop, you and your ilk will be going at this ad infinitum. I merely stated you don't seem to know...uhmmm about 90% of what is actually true and your group has already made it clear that you have an agenda and you will sell it. Nobody but NOBODY advertises something so ferociously without an agenda. Not only do you do it here but in other boards. Carry to your hearts' content. Facts will be there and that high school type retort of jealousy that you tried there is pathetic at best. Have a good one.

No one has mentioned jealousy, certainly not in the comment above, yet that's at least the second time you've claimed that someone accused you of being "jealous" of Andy. That's odd.

Susu1976 said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Prince acknowledging Andy as his girlfriend seems to upset you for some reason.We're only discussing what Prince revealed to the public himself.It is very interesting why he continued to do those things,such as leaving her framed photo up in the Galaxy room after their perceived breakup and posting clips of songs that they did,releasing Oui Can Luv with a big picture of her displayed in the NPG room?Why Andy? Why was he so focused on her? Why would Prince care about helping Andy with her image or promoting her career when they were no longer dating or working together? Andy owns Superconductor so Prince wouldn't make any money off of promoting it or Oui Can Luv.Her EP Hello had no involvement from him yet he still promoted it,along with her StageIts and other shows.They must have been very close friends for him to go to all of that trouble.

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No, honey, what "upsets" me is people who lie. Convoluted sentences still don't take you any closer to truth. It's y'all who seem to get the panties in the twist when OMG! someone disagrees with your narrative, not other way around. Btw, Prince never publicly said Andy was his gf at any time. I'm not going on to engage in infantile tit-for-tat with you, everyone has already seen you will never stop, you and your ilk will be going at this ad infinitum. I merely stated you don't seem to know...uhmmm about 90% of what is actually true and your group has already made it clear that you have an agenda and you will sell it. Nobody but NOBODY advertises something so ferociously without an agenda. Not only do you do it here but in other boards. Carry to your hearts' content. Facts will be there and that high school type retort of jealousy that you tried there is pathetic at best. Have a good one.

Who lied? Andy? Kim? From what I've seen a few of his associates such as Kim,Hannah Welton and Justine Walpole seem to have loved them together as well.I saw on Andy's last photo of she and Prince that she posted on IG that Justine commented with two hearts together.I've seen Hannah comment with emojis blowing kisses and hearts too.Prince never publicly said that Andy was his girlfriend but according to Bobby Z,he introduced her to him as such.You're correct that I do not have inside info on what happened between Prince and Andy as you claim to have.I can only go by what they put out there themselves:the music,social media interactions,etc.How some of his close friends have responded to Andy on social media as well as in person at the Apollo induction left me with the impression that she was very special to Prince in some way and I will believe people that I know actually knew Prince.From the comments on her social media,it appears that many people believe she and Prince were a couple and that some believe she was his last love.

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sharpieheartz said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

206Michelle, feel free to refer to me by name, as I am perfectly capable of answering any questions or concerns you might have. And, I stand by each of the assertions I made regarding Prince and Andy.

That said, I was/am not fantasizing. Both of their social media (and news reports) bear out everything I said: 1) From the time Prince met Andy in 2011 until the day he transitioned in 2016, virtually every indicator that I saw pointed to his interest in Andy Allo. For starters, he left a framed photo of her in the Galaxy Room at Paisley Park. I'm told that it is illuminated by a purple light trained on it. (One day soon, I will visit PP for myself and I will then be able to describe that setting definitively.) Moreover, as late as November of 2015, he called a press conference at which he announced the limited streaming release of Oui Can Luv, the sublime collection of covers with Andy singing and he playing acoustic guitar. He reportedly played it for members of the press and displayed a large photo of her on the screen;

2) They did both post social media messages to each other, some cryptic and some direct. And, if the thread(s) had not been removed, I could point you to the evidence.

3) Prince's Instagram post where he looped Andy's verse from "Time," the "Stay with me baby" portion, seemed like a plea to me (and to some others with whom I have discussed it). One person even commented on his "Gram" that it was "heartwrenching." I think that's the term used. And, mind you, Prince was known to delete social media posts, but he left that video up. I jokingly said that Prince was "begging like Keith Sweat." And, IMHO, he was. I mean, what do you think he meant? Perhaps you think it was intended for Mayte?

And speaking of Mayte, I am shocked that you say that I am fantasizing about Prince and Andy, yet I have never seen where you called out as "fantasy" claims that Prince was still in love with Mayte...even though he had not reportedly spoken to Mayte since their divorce, now almost 20 years ago. The one exception might be when she attended one of his shows, at which, he reportedly refused to grant her free tickets. Some orgers even go far enough to say that he moved to LA to be with her...or that Mayte was going to rejoin the band. If that is not speculation, I don't know what is. Do you find that "creepy"?

Lastly, you say that you will believe that Prince and Andy were in a relationship when you hear it from someone in his inner circle. Really? Do you consider Kim Berry part of his inner circle? Didn't she recently confirm that Andy was his girlfriend, as did the recent UK documentary that interviewed and featured Andy???

I'll end with this article from the Star Tribune, considered by most to be a reputable source. It reports on a 2012 Valentine's Dinner at the Dakota with three couples: Mr. and Mrs. Larry Graham, Mr. and Mrs. Bobby Z and "Prince and his girlfriend." It does not name Andy, but it is pretty widely accepted that they were seeing each other at this time. And, for Prince, the Jehovah's Witness, to be associated with Valentine's Day...and taking this "girlfriend" out to dinner with two of his closest friends and their spouses...this must not have been just another fling.

Here's the article:

Prince dines with Bobby Z but will he play with Revolution on Sunday?

By Jon Bream

FEBRUARY 16, 2012 — 2:59PM

Bobby Z (Star Tribune photo by Tom Wallace)

It was Valentine's Day and they had the balcony at the Dakota Jazz Club all to themselves during a performance by the Steeles.

The three couples were Mr. and Mrs. Larry Graham, Mr. and Mrs. Bobby Z and Prince and his girlfriend. Read More...

I read somewhere that that purple photo of them gazing at each other from the balcony of the Dakota Jazz Club was taken that night. Later on that night, Prince was seen fleeing to his limo carrying Andy’s coat: https://instagram.com/p/z8Tg3Injlf/

The same photog who took the coat photo also took the one at the Dakota.He says it was taken Feb 12th www.instagram.com/p/BPCORtTg6bQ/

pinkcashmere23 said:

sharpieheartz said:

FlyOnTheWall said: I read somewhere that that purple photo of them gazing at each other from the balcony of the Dakota Jazz Club was taken that night. Later on that night, Prince was seen fleeing to his limo carrying Andy’s coat: https://instagram.com/p/z8Tg3Injlf/

The same photog who took the coat photo also took the one at the Dakota.He says it was taken Feb 12th www.instagram.com/p/BPCORtTg6bQ/

February 12, 2012, is the same night that Prince was reportedly in attendance at the Ana Moura show. He was said to be "blowing kisses" from the balcony and they had dinner afterward. This confirms my belief that Andy was with him, as expressed on the thread that was removed.

Portuguese singer seduces...the Dakota

FlyOnTheWall said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

The same photog who took the coat photo also took the one at the Dakota.He says it was taken Feb 12th www.instagram.com/p/BPCORtTg6bQ/

February 12, 2012, is the same night that Prince was reportedly in attendance at the Ana Moura show. He was said to be "blowing kisses" from the balcony and they had dinner afterward. This confirms my belief that Andy was with him, as expressed on the thread that was removed.

Portuguese singer seduces...the Dakota

Ah.That's cute that he was blowing kisses to Ana.Yes,Andy was more than likely the girlfriend mentioned in the article. I've seen Ana commenting on Andy's IG posts.They seem to be close.

sharpieheartz said:

Oh! Thanks for clarification.

You're welcome! I love that photo that he took at the Dakota! He captured a nice moment it seems.

Andy at Stone Henge www.instagram.com/p/BhVtAVoH8dj/ Late night strolls in London:Andy at West Minster Abbey www.instagram.com/p/BhXMXbfnk31/

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pinkcashmere23 said:

Andy at Stone Henge www.instagram.com/p/BhVtAVoH8dj/ Late night strolls in London:Andy at West Minster Abbey www.instagram.com/p/BhXMXbfnk31/

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Looks like she's having a blast. Thanks for sharing!

FlyOnTheWall said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Andy at Stone Henge www.instagram.com/p/BhVtAVoH8dj/ Late night strolls in London:Andy at West Minster Abbey www.instagram.com/p/BhXMXbfnk31/

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Looks like she's having a blast. Thanks for sharing!

You're welcome! Yes she does! Looks like she's staying over there for a while.

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