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Latin

Video: Prince Engineer Susan Rogers Lecture (Montréal 2016) | Red Bull Music Academy

Check out Prince's former engineer Susan Rogers lecture given in Montreal at the Red Bull Music Academy:

https://m.youtube.com/wat...ON0nQCQF08
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Reply #1 posted 12/08/16 2:09pm

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Latin said:

Check out Prince's former engineer Susan Rogers lecture given in Montreal at the Red Bull Music Academy: https://m.youtube.com/wat...ON0nQCQF08

Damn another 2+ hours of content from Red Bull Music Academy after their Jam & Lewis talk, I'll need to find a good uninterrupted amount of time to digest this. Thanks for the heads up!

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Reply #2 posted 12/08/16 3:10pm

Latin

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Latin said:


Check out Prince's former engineer Susan Rogers lecture given in Montreal at the Red Bull Music Academy: https://m.youtube.com/wat...ON0nQCQF08

Damn another 2+ hours of content from Red Bull Music Academy after their Jam & Lewis talk, I'll need to find a good uninterrupted amount of time to digest this. Thanks for the heads up!


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Reply #3 posted 12/08/16 3:20pm

bashraka

At least this is a lecture from an associate that actually worked WITH Prince in the studio and contributed to his music as an engineer and not from a 2nd rate drummer of a talk show band and is narcissistic about Prince at the expense of P's family.

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Reply #4 posted 12/08/16 5:33pm

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bashraka said:

At least this is a lecture from an associate that actually worked WITH Prince in the studio and contributed to his music as an engineer and not from a 2nd rate drummer of a talk show band and is narcissistic about Prince at the expense of P's family.

SHADE lol but i agree wholeheartedly haha

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Reply #5 posted 12/08/16 5:58pm

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Does this dude have an afro and a pick in his head?

What did he do that was at the expense of P's family?

bashraka said:

At least this is a lecture from an associate that actually worked WITH Prince in the studio and contributed to his music as an engineer and not from a 2nd rate drummer of a talk show band and is narcissistic about Prince at the expense of P's family.

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Reply #6 posted 12/08/16 11:27pm

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Latin said:

Check out Prince's former engineer Susan Rogers lecture given in Montreal at the Red Bull Music Academy: https://m.youtube.com/wat...ON0nQCQF08


I just listened to this whole interview! woot!

I'll keep it short and simply say I love her view on the Vault (release it all as it is) !! dancing jig music nod

I hope she is one of the people we get to see at the 2017 Cele!!

"I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015
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Reply #7 posted 12/09/16 12:03am

novabrkr

I wish these type of links would not get removed from the main forum. I almost missed the interview myself and no doubt hundreds, if not thousands, of people visiting the site are going to miss it when it got moved here.

Most of the interview is ABOUT PRINCE. Susan Rogers is neither an "associated artist", she was Prince's recording engineer.

With the same "logic" the mods should have moved the link to the GQ article that has various people Prince worked with telling short stories about him to this forum. What's the difference, really?

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Reply #8 posted 12/09/16 12:13am

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Interested to learn that Moonbeam Levels was on configurations of Purple Rain and ATWIAD.

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Reply #9 posted 12/09/16 12:19am

Latin

CandaceS said:



Latin said:


Check out Prince's former engineer Susan Rogers lecture given in Montreal at the Red Bull Music Academy: https://m.youtube.com/wat...ON0nQCQF08


I just listened to this whole interview! woot!

I'll keep it short and simply say I love her view on the Vault (release it all as it is) !! dancing jig music nod

I hope she is one of the people we get to see at the 2017 Cele!!


Yes, let's hope so. Are you going?

Also, do you know about the event being held next year where Susan Rogers will be speaking about Prince recordings? The moderators immediately moved that thread from the Prince music forum to fan gatherings, but there is also a thread on this forum so that more people can learn about what is bound to be a great learning experience.
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Reply #10 posted 12/09/16 3:05am

antonb

A fantastic listen/watch. And you are right, it should be on the main page. Any prince fan or newbie should listen to this. It gives a great insight on Prince in the studio and as a person. And just cements his standing as a musical genius. The story of the making of Dorothy Parker is great. As is the whole thing. One thing that comes across strongly, is what a effect Prince had on her life, and the affection she still holds for him. Let's hope and pray that she gets asked to be involved in the vault.
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Reply #11 posted 12/09/16 9:36am

wavesofbliss

antonb said:

A fantastic listen/watch. And you are right, it should be on the main page. Any prince fan or newbie should listen to this. It gives a great insight on Prince in the studio and as a person. And just cements his standing as a musical genius. The story of the making of Dorothy Parker is great. As is the whole thing. One thing that comes across strongly, is what a effect Prince had on her life, and the affection she still holds for him. Let's hope and pray that she gets asked to be involved in the vault.

all of this. i still don't get why he was so bitchy about her comments on his music during his lifetime.

Prince #MUSICIANICONLEGEND
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Reply #12 posted 12/09/16 11:42am

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bluegangsta said:

Interested to learn that Moonbeam Levels was on configurations of Purple Rain and ATWIAD.

I don't put so much credit into her recollections since she claimed that the 1986 album was titled Under The Cherry Moon and that Play In the Sunshine had been sequenced to be a mere transition between SOTT and Housequake (when it was originally set between Rebirth and Housequake). I'm gonna listen to it with intererest, though smile

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Reply #13 posted 12/09/16 4:45pm

1Sasha

Although she has a job in academia, she should be the person in charge of the vault and its contents. She admits she did not know him in his later years, but it appears most of the vault came from the 80s into the 90s. Very informative. Great piece.

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Reply #14 posted 12/09/16 4:50pm

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Love this - these are exactly the kind of interviews that PP Museum should be starting to conduct/accumulate for their archives.

Especially on the creative side.

I couldn't give a fig who he took bike rides/ate pancakes/played ping pong with - I mean whatever. His creativity is the most important part and any insight that can possibly be gained should be documented.

Go back to every single person who was in his band - toured with - was in a studio with etc and capture their memories NOW. Or they will be gone before you know it.
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Reply #15 posted 12/09/16 5:18pm

bashraka

purplerabbithole said:

Does this dude have an afro and a pick in his head?

What did he do that was at the expense of P's family?

bashraka said:

At least this is a lecture from an associate that actually worked WITH Prince in the studio and contributed to his music as an engineer and not from a 2nd rate drummer of a talk show band and is narcissistic about Prince at the expense of P's family.

https://twitter.com/quest...2607001600

Just 2 days after her brother died, she doesn't even have enough time to grieve and to make arrangements for cremation and funeral before Questlove compounds her grief by selfishly criticizing Tyka for not inviting him to the memorial. I always got the impression Prince kept Questlove at a distance and for good reason-because his narcissism comes off like a male groupie.

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Reply #16 posted 12/09/16 5:21pm

Noodled24

novabrkr said:

I wish these type of links would not get removed from the main forum. I almost missed the interview myself and no doubt hundreds, if not thousands, of people visiting the site are going to miss it when it got moved here.

Most of the interview is ABOUT PRINCE. Susan Rogers is neither an "associated artist", she was Prince's recording engineer.

With the same "logic" the mods should have moved the link to the GQ article that has various people Prince worked with telling short stories about him to this forum. What's the difference, really?


Hear, hear.

The topic of the interview is "Prince music & more".

Really curious about her recollection of Prince's view on albums. 4-6 strong songs and the rest designed to compliment them. I wonder if that's her view or something Prince said back then.

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Reply #17 posted 12/09/16 7:39pm

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Really curious about her recollection of Prince's view on albums. 4-6 strong songs and the rest designed to compliment them. I wonder if that's her view or something Prince said back then.

The xample she used to xemplify this some months ago was historically erronous, so I'm somewhat skeptical. + it doesn't very much sound like Prince to consider any song as a filler.

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Reply #18 posted 12/10/16 12:16am

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In my Opinion.....this is from far away....the most competent GIRL to work on Prince's Legacy in the Vault (for the 80's)....i hope that WB will do something with HER!?

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Reply #19 posted 12/10/16 12:44am

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In my Opinion.....this is from far away....the most competent GIRL to work on Prince's Legacy in the Vault (for the 80's)....i hope that WB will do something with HER!?

Well for one thing I believe she's a WOMAN not a GIRL, and how about simply the most competent PERSON? But yes of course she's someone that should be consulted for the years she was part of the journey (which doesn't cover the full 80's but a good part of them).

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Reply #20 posted 12/10/16 2:49am

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1Sasha said:

Although she has a job in academia, she should be the person in charge of the vault and its contents. She admits she did not know him in his later years, but it appears most of the vault came from the 80s into the 90s. Very informative. Great piece.



Why do you think most of the vault came from the 80's?
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Reply #21 posted 12/10/16 2:50am

paulludvig

databank said:



bluegangsta said:


Interested to learn that Moonbeam Levels was on configurations of Purple Rain and ATWIAD.



I don't put so much credit into her recollections since she claimed that the 1986 album was titled Under The Cherry Moon and that Play In the Sunshine had been sequenced to be a mere transition between SOTT and Housequake (when it was originally set between Rebirth and Housequake). I'm gonna listen to it with intererest, though smile



Yup. What she says should be considered against other sources.
The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #22 posted 12/10/16 3:51am

Lovejunky

Latin said:

Check out Prince's former engineer Susan Rogers lecture given in Montreal at the Red Bull Music Academy: https://m.youtube.com/wat...ON0nQCQF08

This is so great..

Susan is one Wise Humble and Lovely Lady

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Reply #23 posted 12/10/16 4:02am

darkroman

Simply mindblowing.

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Such an incredible person with amazing experiences.

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It's interesting she describes his drum playing as "terrible" and suggests his timing wasn't good.

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This is interesting because Prince is revered as being a multi-instrumentalist, however, he wasn't classically trained. He certianly wasn't a disciplined musician. This is where Wendy And Lisa completed his missing parts.

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lol lol lol

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Reply #24 posted 12/10/16 4:10am

Lovejunky

mynameisnotsusan said:

Love this - these are exactly the kind of interviews that PP Museum should be starting to conduct/accumulate for their archives. Especially on the creative side. I couldn't give a fig who he took bike rides/ate pancakes/played ping pong with - I mean whatever. His creativity is the most important part and any insight that can possibly be gained should be documented. Go back to every single person who was in his band - toured with - was in a studio with etc and capture their memories NOW. Or they will be gone before you know it.

yeahthat

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Reply #25 posted 12/10/16 6:44am

Noodled24

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

Latin said:

Check out Prince's former engineer Susan Rogers lecture given in Montreal at the Red Bull Music Academy: https://m.youtube.com/wat...ON0nQCQF08

Damn another 2+ hours of content from Red Bull Music Academy after their Jam & Lewis talk, I'll need to find a good uninterrupted amount of time to digest this. Thanks for the heads up!


"Jimmy Jam, what are you doing with your right hand"

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Reply #26 posted 12/10/16 7:34am

Noodled24

databank said:

Noodled24 said:


Really curious about her recollection of Prince's view on albums. 4-6 strong songs and the rest designed to compliment them. I wonder if that's her view or something Prince said back then.

The xample she used to xemplify this some months ago was historically erronous, so I'm somewhat skeptical. + it doesn't very much sound like Prince to consider any song as a filler.


In fairness she doesn't say "filler" per se.

Take Diamonds & Pearls for example. That album is 4 songs, D&P, Cream, Gett Off, Money Don't matter. Then you have Thunder & Live4Love which compliment each other. Willing & Able, Walk + Strolin'. Then Daddy Pop, Push & Jughead.

Gotta say the Jam & Lewis interview was great but tough to watch. Why did nobody interview Prince with instruments at hand... damn.

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Reply #27 posted 12/10/16 8:35am

laurarichardso
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darkroman said:

Simply mindblowing.


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Such an incredible person with amazing experiences.


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It's interesting she describes his drum playing as "terrible" and suggests his timing wasn't good.


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This is interesting because Prince is revered as being a multi-instrumentalist, however, he wasn't classically trained. He certianly wasn't a disciplined musician. This is where Wendy And Lisa completed his missing parts.


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lol lol lol

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/- Let the white washing begin. The total opposite of what Sheila E has said. She put in in the top ten of funk drummers. He is playing the drums on Tamborine and the Flesh boots. This is the same chick who did not like David and Basheshba.
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Reply #28 posted 12/10/16 10:38am

luvgirl

darkroman said:

Simply mindblowing.


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Such an incredible person with amazing experiences.


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It's interesting she describes his drum playing as "terrible" and suggests his timing wasn't good.


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This is interesting because Prince is revered as being a multi-instrumentalist, however, he wasn't classically trained. He certianly wasn't a disciplined musician. This is where Wendy And Lisa completed his missing parts.


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lol lol lol

[Edited 12/10/16 4:09am]



shocked falloff Okay....
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Reply #29 posted 12/10/16 10:45am

luvgirl

The fact that Prince seemed to despised her commenting on what took place with his music, and he was implying that she doesn't know quite as much as she thinks she does, has left me a little jaded when it comes to her. Also, a lot of the stuff she said in books like Possessed has rubbed me the wrong way. They just seemed pure speculation. I'm not 100% on board with her. hmph!
I would like to be fair and give her a chance though. We'll see...
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