paulludvig said:

Alan Leeds would favour his brother Eric first, and his friends Wendy and Lisa second. Nothing wrong with that., Those are people who should be consulted, but not the only ones. Prince was more than an 80's act.

As for Susan Rogers. What about the other engineers? What makes SR special, other than she talks a lot.

I agree with having the engineers' of each time period to weigh in with perspectives in tune with Prince's mindset at the times of recordings. As long as they left the projects and Prince in good-standing...

Quexzea said:

I'll chime in just to mention that Elvis Presley's estate has done an excellent job with his vault. They have a special series entitled "Follow That Dream" aka FTD (which is actually it's own record label) where they release concerts,studio outtakes, alternate versions, and everything you can think of. FTD also releases DVD/Blu-Rays of concerts,etc. Often, there will be a special FTD edition of a standard mass market release. For example, if Prince had FTD, and a Staples Center 2004 DVD was released, the FTD version would have elaborate artwork and include an extra DVD of the aftershow and possibly the audio from the show on CD. If an album like SOTT was released there would be an FTD version containing a disc of outtakes and alternate versions, etc.

Anyhow, I think this is a good format to follow. I'm not as big an Elvis fan as I am Prince fan, but I took notice to this FTD thing after a visit to Graceland. It's a really nice thing they have going if you're a fan. I bought a few of the products and they are of the highest standards as far as printing, resolution, care, and thoughtfulness. I hope this help whomever is in cahrge out there - check out the elvis shop on his offical site - it could save you a lot of time!

Also, here is a list of FTD releases so you can get an idea. They do them quarterly (4 times a year)

http://www.elvispresleyftd.com/follow_that_dream.html

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paulludvig said:

roxy831 said:

babynoz said:

I don't even want Questlove's or Toure's name mentioned in connection with this.

The only person I trust to be objective and agenda free is Jimmy Jam.

I totally agree with you, babynoz. I do trust Sheila E.'s take on the music as well, since regardless of their ups and downs, she's been there in some capacity throughout the decades with Prince.

Good point. I think that Sheila was speaking about the vault at a time when her emotions were still raw. I felt the same way she did tbh. My attitude was "no more candy for Prince's ungrateful fans!"

Working with somebody like Jimmy Jam would help Sheila put things in perspective. I could see Prince's family as well as the court being comfortable with Jimmy, Sheila and maybe Mr. Hayes. No more than two or three people should lead the project because too may chiefs would be a nightmare.

jdcxc said:

paulludvig said:

We need someone who appreciates Prince's entire catalogue, not just the 80's material or material featuring familiy members and close friends. That rules out Alan Leeds and some of the other people mentioned.

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Exactly. I find both Alan and Eric very predictable in their Prince taste. It's laughable that Alan keeps comparing D'Angelo to Prince...ever the hustler. And Eric is so loyal to Wendy/Lisa that he forgets how important P was to his career. Too much self interest in their discussions. Bring in some knowledgeable music outsiders to advance the discussion.

Agreed.

Who from the outside did you have in mind?

FlyOnTheWall said:

babynoz said:

Leeds doesn't necessarily know more than other people involved with Paisley Park. IMO that's more org mythology. People tend to gravitate to Leeds and take his word as gospel because he was one of the few willing to talk openly at a time when most of Prince's associates remained closed mouthed for fear of repercussions.

He can be included in an advisory capacity for his specific time period just like many others but I would NEVER put him or any non musician in charge. I suspect that the last thing Prince would want but that's just my guess.

What is needed is a Board of Directors.

Agreed!

Good God, no. The last thing we need is Mayté's overemotionalism or Manuela's self-aggrandizement involved.

wow. What a cold, cold (insert the word here) you are.

1. Alan has not had contact with Prince since Hector was a pup.

2. Alan Leeds is not a musician.

3. Alan has zero current, first hand knowlege of the vault.

4. Alan is stuck in the 80s.

5. Thankfully Alan has no ability to comply with your wishes because none of this is in his hands to begin with and I hope it stays that way.

But that make you an expert, huh?

The reason I chose Jimmy Jam is because 1. he has a comprehensive grasp of the music industry, 2. he will respect the entirety of Prince's body of work, 3. he is a musician and 4. he is the only one who has come forward claiming to have had a serious discussion with Prince himself about the subject. Finally, Jimmy Jam doesn't need the money and isn't looking for exposure either so I trust him to be more objective than anyone else.

THIs shows how little you know about Prince.

NorthC said:

Bad idea, terrig. No one is going to cough up money for a ticket four times a year just to hear some music. (Besides, it would be bootlegged anyway.) It should be released on CD and downloads and streaming, so folks can pick the format they like. [Edited 6/13/16 14:59pm]

I agree, not everyone lives in the US - I am an Aussie girl and I doubt I could get there - I may be able to once in my lifetime, but life happens and we dont always have the funds for flight and travel, but we can afford to buy a download / or CD / DVD - and it is a nice way to keep our collections growing................

Zannaloaf said:

The reason I chose Jimmy Jam is because 1. he has a comprehensive grasp of the music industry, 2. he will respect the entirety of Prince's body of work, 3. he is a musician and 4. he is the only one who has come forward claiming to have had a serious discussion with Prince himself about the subject. Finally, Jimmy Jam doesn't need the money and isn't looking for exposure either so I trust him to be more objective than anyone else.

THIs shows how little you know about Prince.

No, but your usual dick waving and pathetic attempts at one-upmanship shows you being butthurt once again by the truth. Suck it up and realize that Prince was a phenomenal artist before AND after The Revolution or continue to dwell in the land of De-nial...makes no difference to me.

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Zannaloaf said:

1. Alan has not had contact with Prince since Hector was a pup.

2. Alan Leeds is not a musician.

3. Alan has zero current, first hand knowlege of the vault.

4. Alan is stuck in the 80s.

5. Thankfully Alan has no ability to comply with your wishes because none of this is in his hands to begin with and I hope it stays that way.

But that make you an expert, huh?

Do you see anybody asking me to be in charge of the vault? I am not the thread topic, Alan Leeds is.

Do yourself a favor and discuss the actual topic instead of trolling and whining.

babynoz said:

roxy831 said:

I totally agree with you, babynoz. I do trust Sheila E.'s take on the music as well, since regardless of their ups and downs, she's been there in some capacity throughout the decades with Prince.

Good point. I think that Sheila was speaking about the vault at a time when her emotions were still raw. I felt the same way she did tbh. My attitude was "no more candy for Prince's ungrateful fans!"

Working with somebody like Jimmy Jam would help Sheila put things in perspective. I could see Prince's family as well as the court being comfortable with Jimmy, Sheila and maybe Mr. Hayes. No more than two or three people should lead the project because too may chiefs would be a nightmare.

Those three yes! IMO

OK, a couple of things.

First off, the Bremer Trust has been given authority to hire experts to assist with the utilization of Prince's music. By nature, that use has to be for the benefit of the estate and the heirs of the estate.

However, if the Trust were to select persons with no genuine knowledge of Prince's music, that would be tragic. I hope the Trust understand this and will act accordingly.

I'm not sure how anyone could doubt that Alan Leeds would be a sober-minded and thoughtful choice for this process. A familiarity with the more recent contents of the Vault would be less important, in my mind, than having people of intelligence and integrity involved with this process.

Eric Leeds would be an excellent choice, So would Sheila E. Clearly Kirk Johnson should be a participant.

Bottom line -- no one individual should have control of the process, but Alan would be an indispensable participant. He has an extremely keen mind and is a genuine, honest person.

wildgoldenhoney said:

I don't know much about this Alan guy but I just hope there's NO VULTURES!!! So sad to see a preview of the circus that this will all become with people possibly staking claims etc... he deserves way better care to be taken of what he left to the world.

Yes he does, from people who actually respected him and his whole career.

babynoz said:

OK, a couple of things.

First off, the Bremer Trust has been given authority to hire experts to assist with the utilization of Prince's music. By nature, that use has to be for the benefit of the estate and the heirs of the estate.

However, if the Trust were to select persons with no genuine knowledge of Prince's music, that would be tragic. I hope the Trust understand this and will act accordingly.

I'm not sure how anyone could doubt that Alan Leeds would be a sober-minded and thoughtful choice for this process. A familiarity with the more recent contents of the Vault would be less important, in my mind, than having people of intelligence and integrity involved with this process.

Eric Leeds would be an excellent choice, So would Sheila E. Clearly Kirk Johnson should be a participant.

Bottom line -- no one individual should have control of the process, but Alan would be an indispensable participant. He has an extremely keen mind and is a genuine, honest person.

FlyOnTheWall said:

JoeyCococo said:

Questlove? I never mentioned him in my original post. I think he's a great fan and obviously has access that fans like us don't have but I would not consider him someone who should be brought in to work on a project like this. NO NO NO.

We need people who worked with Prince, who he trusted, who understand him.....now, we can't make that call. This is something I am hoping Alan can do. He would know who would be worthwhile to call in.

Certainly he (Alan) can gather opinions from who ever he wants but I would not choose Questlove only b/c he had nothing to do with Prince's vault material, as far as we know.

Sheila, Wendy, Lisa, Michael Bland (maybe), Eric Leeds, Dez Dickerson, Susan Rogers...I think these people should be consulted. Frankly, Manuela and possibly Matye too as they'd know how he personally felt about some of the material.

It seems that Kirk Johnson knew Prince better than almost anyone, and he was his trusted confidante until the very end. He should definitely have a seat at the table.

You take the risk that Kirk J "emancipates" the tracks on production.

paulludvig said:

AlexHahn said:

I think Alan would be good with the 80's stuff, along with others from around then. He doesn't have to do the 90's stuff, this doesn't have to be all or nothing. He's proven he can do a good boxset, what's everyone else's résumé?

As for people falling out Get over yourselves, people fell out with prince all the time, doesn't mean they hated him for life then. There is no such thing as being objective in relationships.

and not being a musician means nothing, it's not a musicians job to compile an archival set, musicians are not archivists. Leave it to the experts, you go create some new music instead.

I think Questlove would be fine as a fan-consultant, if there had to be one. As would I, but I don't think they're gonna come knocking for me

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AlexHahn said:

OK, a couple of things.

First off, the Bremer Trust has been given authority to hire experts to assist with the utilization of Prince's music. By nature, that use has to be for the benefit of the estate and the heirs of the estate.

However, if the Trust were to select persons with no genuine knowledge of Prince's music, that would be tragic. I hope the Trust understand this and will act accordingly.

I'm not sure how anyone could doubt that Alan Leeds would be a sober-minded and thoughtful choice for this process. A familiarity with the more recent contents of the Vault would be less important, in my mind, than having people of intelligence and integrity involved with this process.

Eric Leeds would be an excellent choice, So would Sheila E. Clearly Kirk Johnson should be a participant.

Bottom line -- no one individual should have control of the process, but Alan would be an indispensable participant. He has an extremely keen mind and is a genuine, honest person.

I'm not suprised you support the people that gave you the dirt on Prince for your book.

AlexHahn said:

OK, a couple of things.

First off, the Bremer Trust has been given authority to hire experts to assist with the utilization of Prince's music. By nature, that use has to be for the benefit of the estate and the heirs of the estate.

However, if the Trust were to select persons with no genuine knowledge of Prince's music, that would be tragic. I hope the Trust understand this and will act accordingly.

I'm not sure how anyone could doubt that Alan Leeds would be a sober-minded and thoughtful choice for this process. A familiarity with the more recent contents of the Vault would be less important, in my mind, than having people of intelligence and integrity involved with this process.

Eric Leeds would be an excellent choice, So would Sheila E. Clearly Kirk Johnson should be a participant.

Bottom line -- no one individual should have control of the process, but Alan would be an indispensable participant. He has an extremely keen mind and is a genuine, honest person.

agreed...I think a team is required. Not an entire commitee...just a handful of 'expert' people. those with access to him, understanding of the industry and most of all, a real love for Prince.

JoeyCococo said:

AlexHahn said:

OK, a couple of things.

First off, the Bremer Trust has been given authority to hire experts to assist with the utilization of Prince's music. By nature, that use has to be for the benefit of the estate and the heirs of the estate.

However, if the Trust were to select persons with no genuine knowledge of Prince's music, that would be tragic. I hope the Trust understand this and will act accordingly.

I'm not sure how anyone could doubt that Alan Leeds would be a sober-minded and thoughtful choice for this process. A familiarity with the more recent contents of the Vault would be less important, in my mind, than having people of intelligence and integrity involved with this process.

Eric Leeds would be an excellent choice, So would Sheila E. Clearly Kirk Johnson should be a participant.

Bottom line -- no one individual should have control of the process, but Alan would be an indispensable participant. He has an extremely keen mind and is a genuine, honest person.

agreed...I think a team is required. Not an entire commitee...just a handful of 'expert' people. those with access to him, understanding of the industry and most of all, a real love for Prince.

Again that rules out the Leeds brothers. Eric has stated on numerous occations that he didn't like or understand a lot Prince's music. Alan is to close to his brother.

babynoz said:

In fairness, he's not a nobody, he was also James Brown's manager, and D'Angelo's after Prince. He managed them all at the, or at least a, height of their careers. He also helped put together what is usually considered the definitive boxset on James Brown, Star Time. I don't think anyone in this thread is saying he's responsible for Prince's success, that would be insane, but to say he's responsible for his downfall is more than stretching it.

I think the fact that he's white is something that should be considered, Prince was very concerned with black people owning their own lives and careers. There's definitely a very persuasive argument that the people taking care of the estate should probably be in majority people of color. However, none of this means he shouldn't be involved at all just because he's white or because, god forbid, someone doesn't like that he criticised Prince.

He's got a better claim than Questlove, who is just an uber-fan really.... and i'd personally like Questlove to be involved.

jaawwnn said:

jaawwnn said:

I think Alan would be good with the 80's stuff, along with others from around then. He doesn't have to do the 90's stuff, this doesn't have to be all or nothing. He's proven he can do a good boxset, what's everyone else's résumé?

As for people falling out Get over yourselves, people fell out with prince all the time, doesn't mean they hated him for life then. There is no such thing as being objective in relationships.

and not being a musician means nothing, it's not a musicians job to compile an archival set, musicians are not archivists. Leave it to the experts, you go create some new music instead.

I think Questlove would be fine as a fan-consultant, if there had to be one. As would I, but I don't think they're gonna come knocking for me

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Okay, God forbid if and when your time comes, I hope they appoint somebody you stopped speaking to decades ago and made negative public comments about you in the recent part of your life, to take over your precious items. If that were me, I dont care how qualified that person is, hell to the NO!