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Reply #210 posted 05/21/16 4:57am

KaresB

nursev said:

klick2me said:

I always thought he music would speak about his relationships. Kind of like The Truth or Rave was about Maybe in a lot of ways. 3121 had some insight to their relationship (Mani). Listen to the song Love. You will get your answer there. I could be wrong, though.

nod I always thought it was about her


Well, if that song is about Mani, I'd be interested to hear her version of it too.

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Reply #211 posted 05/21/16 5:12am

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homesquid said:




cardinal said:


homesquid said: it would also be allowed if SHE committed fornication as well, yes? men aren't the only ones who cheat, just sayin



of course but Mani could not divorce Prince if SHE was th eonly one who cheated. He could divorce her. You can't say "I want out of this marriage so I'll commit fornication". Nope not according to ye olde Bible. I think it's likely if Mani chated Prince would've filed.



Is Mani still a JW? If she only became a JW so that she could marry Prince, she probably did not have strong convictions, so she may have gotten the divorce without regard for what the religion teaches.



thats kind of what i was thinking...if she wasn't truly committed to it, then her choices would not necessarily reflect that religion anymore if the marriage was ending.
[Edited 5/21/16 5:12am]
"If u love somebody, your life won't be in vain
And there's always a rainbow, at the end of every rain."--peace and love, dear prince.....
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Reply #212 posted 05/21/16 5:22am

computerblue77

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To be in good standing as one of Jehovah's Witnesses the ONLY GROUNDS for "scriptual" divorse is adultery. Mani could only divorce Prince with JW's blessing if Prince committed fornication. As I've said before I was a JW for 10 years. The odds are high Prince cheated.

Except she wasn't part of that religion so she isn't bounded by any of that religious nonsense.

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Reply #213 posted 05/21/16 11:44am

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Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture!
REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince
"I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben
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Reply #214 posted 05/21/16 1:53pm

babynoz

computerblue77 said:

homesquid said:

To be in good standing as one of Jehovah's Witnesses the ONLY GROUNDS for "scriptual" divorse is adultery. Mani could only divorce Prince with JW's blessing if Prince committed fornication. As I've said before I was a JW for 10 years. The odds are high Prince cheated.

Except she wasn't part of that religion so she isn't bounded by any of that religious nonsense.



She may have left the faith but there was a photo posted here years ago of both of them getting baptized.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #215 posted 05/21/16 2:25pm

Superfan1984

I want to see that photo! Could someone post it?
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Reply #216 posted 05/21/16 2:30pm

babynoz

Superfan1984 said:

I want to see that photo! Could someone post it?



It was a picture that one of mani's family members had on myspace or something. Somebody posted it in associated artists but I don't remember who.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #217 posted 05/21/16 4:24pm

Superfan1984

I hope they come across this thread and post it smile
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Reply #218 posted 05/22/16 5:24pm

SheLovesMeNot

Manuela divorced Prince to save herself from the humiliation of him divorcing her first. She knew what road she was heading down. He was getting bored with her. Prince fans did not like Manuela and she knew it. She would had suffered so much humiliation .
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Reply #219 posted 05/23/16 8:36am

SheLovesMeNot

tmo1965 said:



homesquid said:




cardinal said:


homesquid said: it would also be allowed if SHE committed fornication as well, yes? men aren't the only ones who cheat, just sayin



of course but Mani could not divorce Prince if SHE was th eonly one who cheated. He could divorce her. You can't say "I want out of this marriage so I'll commit fornication". Nope not according to ye olde Bible. I think it's likely if Mani chated Prince would've filed.



Is Mani still a JW? If she only became a JW so that she could marry Prince, she probably did not have strong convictions, so she may have gotten the divorce without regard for what the religion teaches.



She was never a true Jehovah's Witness or a true vegetarian she made drastic changes in her life to impress Prince. Once they were divorced she went back to her own spiritual ways and also eating meat. You think Prince would've married her without those changes? Not! . I never liked that woman, still don't. How desperate was she...Eric Benet?! She'd marry anyone to stay in the limelight she claims she never liked!
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Reply #220 posted 05/23/16 3:42pm

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I listened to two songs someone here mentioned, "Fury" and another one, I forget which, that were written at that time.
I believe Mani was jealous or suspicious of Prince's time with Tamar I think it was, and possibly other people he hung out with - and Mani couldn't have faith in him. He might've had a problem making enough time for her too, not sure.
Of course when your guy is away a lot and married to his music also, and you're young (remember she wasn't even 30 yet), you're going to feel left out/insecure/want him around more etc.

I believe he really liked her and was trying to get her to trust him. To not listen to the gossip magazines and tabloid reports and have some faith in him and in him and in love, but she couldn't or wanted him around more. He talks in one song about letting the heart do the talking instead of arguing/asking him questions etc., that real love is quiet and trusting. But she was young.

And that's the problem with being with someone half your age. Too high expectations.

I feel he wanted to stay young and loved beautiful young women but the problem with that is you miss out on mature companionship.

I feel bad because when they divorced he was almost 50 and I believe really wanted to settle down. He didn't want the divorce. I think he was hurt and I wonder if he closed his heart somewhat after that.

There could be many other variables I don't know about since I wasn't there, but this is the feeling I get in general about it.
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Reply #221 posted 05/23/16 6:12pm

SheLovesMeNot

anangellooksdown said:



I feel bad because when they divorced he was almost 50 and I believe really wanted to settle down. He didn't want the divorce. I think he was hurt and I wonder if he closed his heart somewhat after that.


[Edited 5/23/16 15:45pm]


Prince was old enough to be her dad. There's only one reason a much younger girl would want a rich rock star...well two reasons in her case...money and fame. If Prince didn't want a divorce he would've did what he had to do to keep her. His heart had been broke many times before her and he's broke many himself. Prince love was to himself and his loyalty was to his music...a young beautiful woman by his side made him feel young, and it was good for his image.
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Reply #222 posted 05/24/16 7:09pm

nursev

SheLovesMeNot said:

anangellooksdown said:
I feel bad because when they divorced he was almost 50 and I believe really wanted to settle down. He didn't want the divorce. I think he was hurt and I wonder if he closed his heart somewhat after that. [Edited 5/23/16 15:45pm]
Prince was old enough to be her dad. There's only one reason a much younger girl would want a rich rock star...well two reasons in her case...money and fame. If Prince didn't want a divorce he would've did what he had to do to keep her. His heart had been broke many times before her and he's broke many himself. Prince love was to himself and his loyalty was to his music...a young beautiful woman by his side made him feel young, and it was good for his image.

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Reply #223 posted 05/24/16 7:09pm

nursev

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http://oi67.tinypic.com/11kdwzt.jpg

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[img:$uid]http://i69.phot.../img:$uid] Lawd. disbelief I really think if either of them wanted us to know they'd have told us. Some things are best left between the 2 people who experienced them.

falloff true

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Reply #224 posted 05/25/16 5:01pm

jesme1999

Edited because it's not always good to speak what's on my mind ...
[Edited 5/25/16 17:06pm]
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Reply #225 posted 05/25/16 5:33pm

nursev

jesme1999 said:

Edited because it's not always good to speak what's on my mind ... [Edited 5/25/16 17:06pm]

Girl at this point just let it out

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Reply #226 posted 05/26/16 7:19am

Superfan1984

Yes... "If you have nothing nice to say, please, come sit with us...." (UTCM) wink
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Reply #227 posted 05/26/16 5:12pm

jesme1999

Ok... I had this all typed up this morning and my iPad died and I lost it ...
First of all, I dont know why Mani left Prince, but even if she wrote a tell all book and spelled it out step by step , I would not believe her .I don't trust a woman who would go after another woman's husband .
By all accounts Manuella was a fan of Prince and I feel that she put herself in a position to take advantage of the heartache and grieving that Prince and Mayte were going through over the loss of the babies .
I agree with the other posters I don't think was ever a vegan , or a true in her heart JW , I feel like she was around enough to know exactly what would make her attractive to Prince ..... I think she molded herself into everything that she thought he would want his woman to be and she snaked her way into his life and his heart and didn't have the decency to let enough time pass for Prince and Mayte to deal with their loss and possibly have a chance to find their way back to each other .She struck while he and Mayte were both very vulnerable .
I think she had a goal in mind and she achieved it. BUT ! I think it turned into one of those , " be careful what you wish for or you just might get it " situations.
I don't even think her intentions are pure towards Mayte either , I rewatched Hollywood exes last night and I just wanted to smack that self satisfied smile off of her face when she was showing pictures of her baby and telling Mayte that she better hurry up and catch up.Ive been in a similar position as Mayte and while she was smiling and putting up a brave front ,that had to sting .
Kinda like my ex sister in law calling on Christmas Day two months after I lost a baby and was all " surprise, Merry Christmas , I'm pregnant again "
( for the 5 th time ) while I kept having miscarriages and tubal pregnancies .
And the purple clothing for her and her little girl and saying how she will always love Prince and " I'm not ok ? " I don't believe that she doesn't like the limelight .
And if she is truly grieving so badly, she better keep in mind that she has a husband who just might start to feel like he is competing with a dead man and that there might be another "Mani" out there ready to pounce on him while she is doing her grieving ...just like Mayte was ...
Hope I don't get your thread locked ...
[Edited 5/26/16 17:16pm]
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Reply #228 posted 05/26/16 5:45pm

nursev

jesme1999 said:

Ok... I had this all typed up this morning and my iPad died and I lost it ... First of all, I dont know why Mani left Prince, but even if she wrote a tell all book and spelled it out step by step , I would not believe her .I don't trust a woman who would go after another woman's husband . By all accounts Manuella was a fan of Prince and I feel that she put herself in a position to take advantage of the heartache and grieving that Prince and Mayte were going through over the loss of the babies . I agree with the other posters I don't think was ever a vegan , or a true in her heart JW , I feel like she was around enough to know exactly what would make her attractive to Prince ..... I think she molded herself into everything that she thought he would want his woman to be and she snaked her way into his life and his heart and didn't have the decency to let enough time pass for Prince and Mayte to deal with their loss and possibly have a chance to find their way back to each other .She struck while he and Mayte were both very vulnerable . I think she had a goal in mind and she achieved it. BUT ! I think it turned into one of those , " be careful what you wish for or you just might get it " situations. I don't even think her intentions are pure towards Mayte either , I rewatched Hollywood exes last night and I just wanted to smack that self satisfied smile off of her face when she was showing pictures of her baby and telling Mayte that she better hurry up and catch up.Ive been in a similar position as Mayte and while she was smiling and putting up a brave front ,that had to sting . Kinda like my ex sister in law calling on Christmas Day two months after I lost a baby and was all " surprise, Merry Christmas , I'm pregnant again " ( for the 5 th time ) while I kept having miscarriages and tubal pregnancies . And the purple clothing for her and her little girl and saying how she will always love Prince and " I'm not ok ? " I don't believe that she doesn't like the limelight . And if she is truly grieving so badly, she better keep in mind that she has a husband who just might start to feel like he is competing with a dead man and that there might be another "Mani" out there ready to pounce on him while she is doing her grieving ...just like Mayte was ... Hope I don't get your thread locked ... [Edited 5/26/16 17:16pm]

Im sorry for your losses and I agree with everything you said. Just an Opportunistic woman. Some say she knew that Prince's fans didnt like her. I think its cause his fans knew she did not have Prince's best interest at heart.

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Reply #229 posted 05/26/16 6:24pm

jesme1999

Thank you ... I've moved on and like Mayte adopted a child..haha he's a grown man now, but still my baby !
And you are absolutely right , it was obvious to many of us that she didn't have his best interest at heart , but I'm sure she provided a shoulder to cry lean on and that she understood how Mayte didn't .
And our dear Prince was not thinking with his brain ...
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Reply #230 posted 05/26/16 6:48pm

nursev

jesme1999 said:

Thank you ... I've moved on and like Mayte adopted a child..haha he's a grown man now, but still my baby ! And you are absolutely right , it was obvious to many of us that she didn't have his best interest at heart , but I'm sure she provided a shoulder to cry lean on and that she understood how Mayte didn't . And our dear Prince was not thinking with his brain ...

exactly and she was cunning with it too. Knew exactly the right time to step in neutral

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Reply #231 posted 05/26/16 6:56pm

jesme1999

nursev said:



jesme1999 said:


Thank you ... I've moved on and like Mayte adopted a child..haha he's a grown man now, but still my baby ! And you are absolutely right , it was obvious to many of us that she didn't have his best interest at heart , but I'm sure she provided a shoulder to cry lean on and that she understood how Mayte didn't . And our dear Prince was not thinking with his brain ...

exactly and she was cunning with it too. Knew exactly the right time to step in neutral




Exactly ..at the most vulnerable time sad
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Reply #232 posted 05/26/16 7:21pm

Superfan1984

I agree with ALL of this. I also question whether she talked to Prince the week before he died to tell him she was building this school for him (Like she claimed) Sure doesn't seem to me that he would be talking to her with all her snarky comments directed at him on FB and other places. I mean, there's no way to know for sure but I actually think this was a flat out lie. The insinuation was that they were still friends and if he wouldn't attend the BET thing because she and Eric Benet were going to be there (causing them to be uninvited) well, I highly doubt they were still talking. I also agree about her with Mayte on H Exes ---- She always seemed to me to be Mayte's frienemy not her friend. I wonder, also if Mayte realizes this and has just decided to keep her friends close and her enemies closer? I read once on here (and again, not sure if this is a fact) but I read that when she started working at PP that she would sit and read her bible, and Prince saw her doing this and was impressed and that was one of the things that drew him to her, because he was getting into the JW thing so heavily. Does anyone know the story on that? Did she, in fact, do that? Because if so.... Wow :O
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Reply #233 posted 05/26/16 7:23pm

Superfan1984

P.s. I saw the pic of her and her kid decked out in purple and it seemed like an opportunistic photo op. Wow this woman.
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Reply #234 posted 05/26/16 8:07pm

jesme1999

Superfan1984 said:

I agree with ALL of this. I also question whether she talked to Prince the week before he died to tell him she was building this school for him (Like she claimed) Sure doesn't seem to me that he would be talking to her with all her snarky comments directed at him on FB and other places. I mean, there's no way to know for sure but I actually think this was a flat out lie. The insinuation was that they were still friends and if he wouldn't attend the BET thing because she and Eric Benet were going to be there (causing them to be uninvited) well, I highly doubt they were still talking. I also agree about her with Mayte on H Exes ---- She always seemed to me to be Mayte's frienemy not her friend. I wonder, also if Mayte realizes this and has just decided to keep her friends close and her enemies closer? I read once on here (and again, not sure if this is a fact) but I read that when she started working at PP that she would sit and read her bible, and Prince saw her doing this and was impressed and that was one of the things that drew him to her, because he was getting into the JW thing so heavily. Does anyone know the story on that? Did she, in fact, do that? Because if so.... Wow :O



I heard the same thing ! Uggghhhhh !
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Reply #235 posted 05/26/16 8:09pm

jesme1999

Superfan1984 said:

P.s. I saw the pic of her and her kid decked out in purple and it seemed like an opportunistic photo op. Wow this woman.



Yep...and she's " not ok? "
Wonder what her hubs thinks of that ?
She had an agenda IMO
And I hope Mayte doesn't fully trust her ...agreed about the frienemies ...
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Reply #236 posted 05/26/16 8:11pm

jesme1999

nursev said:



Aerogram said:


HUM!!!



I don't understand how I'm supposed to care that you're so bereaved by Prince's death when so many take cheap shots at someone who knew him intimately.



Be consistent. You're just a Prince fan. She was his wife.



If your grief means something, then respect those who knew him even more than you do.



She was a fan too. My respect is for Prince this is not Mani.org confused Another thing is who made you the judge of what's respectful and whats not. The OP asked a question and every poster in here has tried to answer that question except you.



Lol ....Mani.org...
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Reply #237 posted 05/26/16 8:41pm

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i was saving this thread, along with a bar of chocolate and a bag of macadamia's,
for a rainy day, knowing it would probably be a good, entertaining read.

and let me tell you guys, y'all did not disappoint falloff


and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #238 posted 05/26/16 11:06pm

SheLovesMeNot

There IS NO WAY Prince would let Manuela open a school in his name. No Way! She's a liar. And of course she used the Word to get to Prince. She's an opportunist simple as that. She's set for life now, something she couldn't get with Prince, Her marrying Eric Benet speaks in volumes! The guy sued the hell out of a woman for alimony and child support, hello?! Actually, them two think so alike they belong together!
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Reply #239 posted 05/27/16 7:27am

Superfan1984

I saw recently in some article that, when asked the best part of being married to Prince, she said the best thing was that it allowed her to have her own business! Can you imagine that being your answer when asked the best thing about being married to Prince!? It reminds me of a guy I used to work with - he was dating this new girl and I asked how he liked her and he answered, "She loves to cook and clean" :O
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