30yearfan said:

SunnyGirl8 said:

Ok this is what I worked out today… please give me your thoughts…

I mentioned a couple of pages back Breakdown was the last song that Prince stated was his favourite. I interpret the song is as him being very vulnerable, reflecting on lost love, lamenting his priorities/choices, how that screwed up everything with her and how she inspired his writing. Also, that he's aware of how she's changed him "breaking him down", that he's ready for her now (the door is open - he's changed), he wants her to see that and he isn't going anywhere/he's not going to walk away.

When I looked into further, I realised Breakdown has been compared to another song "Empty Room" that he wrote in 1985. Supposedly, it was about Susannah but I think it was about Vanity.

This is the history of "Empty Room":
4 Aug 1985 Studio recording (not released) - Written for Vanity
Mid-late March 1992 Studio re-recording (not released) - Vanity becoming religious
Late 1994 Video version made (using 1985 recording) - Vanity OD? Rejects him?
March 1995 Video shown in UK tour (3-30 Mar 1995) - Vanity gets married 26 March 1995

The video hasn't been shown since then but he's very fond of this song he keeps rerecording it in live performances (2002, 2011, 2014) and has performed it occasionally in live shows in 2002, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2014. It's weird as there still hasn't been a studio release of the song. I think this could be another ‘special’ Vanity song like Adore only this isn't about love, it's about her breaking his heart.

In the video, he looks so sad and he's floundeering around in bath with his trousers on like in When Doves Cry only he looks miserable! This is the video (Mayte is in it - it's not about her).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3DlEmXkIss

I'm starting to think more and more that this privacy thing he had was because he didn't want people analysing his writing and being able to link it to his personal life. He’s transparent - his writing is completely autobiographical - it's just all about her!

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There is a lot going on in that Empty room video. I see the same spiral staircase as the WDC video. I also see a reference to the Ballad of Dorothy Parker. Didn't the lyrics say that he took a bubble bath with his pants on after fighting with lovers past. I heard a performance of this song during I believe the ONA tour in the early 2000's where he was talking to the audience and he asked the crowd had they ever had their hearts broke. He talked about how the person has been long gone and you still reminisce about that love. If this song was about Susannah like some suggest, well she was still around when he wrote it. He is talking about a past love that is not with him. In those bios they said it was because of a fight he had with Susannah. But it is clearly not about that. See how much those Prince bios have shaped the narrative.

Also, in the hot with u video (thanks for the link) the girl on the bed does look like Vanity. The girl is also covered with bubbles at the end which kind of looks like the Pretty Mess video. They were both seriously into baths. LOL

Hiya thanks 30yearfan for all your points! Yeah I think the Empty Room video is using alot of his language (baths, mirrors which he won't even look into! etc). I hadn't even noticed the stairs in WDC! And the reference to The Ballad of Dorothy Parker - am I correct in thinking that the meaning to that song is that next time he fights with his lover he needs to be quicker to go out and chat up someone as per "I took another bubble bath with my pants on, all the fighting stopped. Next time I'll do it sooner"?? Maybe bathing is just code for sex? If that's the case, it would explain the use of it in "Pretty Mess" and "Hot Wit U" (thanks for pulling those together too!)

That statement on ONA tour is great cause it takes Susannah out. Wow! I'd agree with you about the bios (although I haven't read any of them) - they seem to be laying a different story out for people to follow other than the one really intended! It's so amazing that it all falls apart once you put Vanity at the centre of the stage as his main muse/focus.

cardinal said:

Mumio said:

I don't think he was depressed about her at all. I don't think Prince was ever committed to a relationship with any of the women he was with...otherwise, it would have lasted. Someone who met as many women as he did would have found a mate he wanted to stay with if that had been his focus. I don't believe it was his focus at all. I know some won't like what I've said here, but that's okay. I can live with it.

i can kind of see what you are saying. I think he was sad about her death, but not necessarily in the "she was my one" kind of way. he said in rs 2014 that he was open to meeting and even marrying the right one. but it hadn't happened at the time of his passing. there are some wonderful people who would like to be paired but haven't found the one. that could have been true of prince, too. but he did meet a lot of people, traveled, and had money and freedom to pursue a relationship more intensely if he had wanted. and he had more available partners to meet than most who are looking. i always felt that God and music were his true loves. i think he wanted a special relationship too (he sang about it alot ) but maybe he was too committed already to his other loves.

To me, God and music were the most important things in life. I don't think any woman could compete with those two.

cardinal said:

Mumio said:

I don't think he was depressed about her at all. I don't think Prince was ever committed to a relationship with any of the women he was with...otherwise, it would have lasted. Someone who met as many women as he did would have found a mate he wanted to stay with if that had been his focus. I don't believe it was his focus at all. I know some won't like what I've said here, but that's okay. I can live with it.

i can kind of see what you are saying. I think he was sad about her death, but not necessarily in the "she was my one" kind of way. he said in rs 2014 that he was open to meeting and even marrying the right one. but it hadn't happened at the time of his passing. there are some wonderful people who would like to be paired but haven't found the one. that could have been true of prince, too. but he did meet a lot of people, traveled, and had money and freedom to pursue a relationship more intensely if he had wanted. and he had more available partners to meet than most who are looking. i always felt that God and music were his true loves. i think he wanted a special relationship too (he sang about it alot ) but maybe he was too committed already to his other loves.

Exactly what I think I do think he would/could have been open to it, but it just wasn't in the cards for him. I'm okay with that, I'm not one to think that everyone must have a partner or get married or have kids in order to be happy with their life. We're just all so different, ya' know? And yes, I also agree that he had specific priorities and that's just the way it was for him.

cng89 said:

contropurple said:

I think he wasn't too bad with it. If she was meant to be it would of happend long ago. He knew he was expected to show some sadness. In my view Prince was looking for his alter ego in the flesh his whole life. If it didn't add up, he let them go.

But Prince didn't exactly let Denise go, she left him. I don't think he was putting on an act with the sadness when she passed. Prince has never been fake about anything. And if I'm not mistaken, he tried to get her back over the years after their break-up. I think it's important that people know that SHE left him, not the other way around.

I think the article I posted about the photographer showed it was not an act. I don't think he went around telling people how upset he was, he dismissed them and kept to himself but she saw a tenderness and vulnerability she had never seen before. I think other than what he said in the shows, he was quite private about his feelings.

cng89 said:

cardinal said:

Mumio said: i can kind of see what you are saying. I think he was sad about her death, but not necessarily in the "she was my one" kind of way. he said in rs 2014 that he was open to meeting and even marrying the right one. but it hadn't happened at the time of his passing. there are some wonderful people who would like to be paired but haven't found the one. that could have been true of prince, too. but he did meet a lot of people, traveled, and had money and freedom to pursue a relationship more intensely if he had wanted. and he had more available partners to meet than most who are looking. i always felt that God and music were his true loves. i think he wanted a special relationship too (he sang about it alot ) but maybe he was too committed already to his other loves.

To me, God and music were the most important things in life. I don't think any woman could compete with those two.

Yes, Jehovah and his music. And truthfully, that's the way it was for Vanity too....except it was God for her. Similar paths but not intended to pursue them together. I think many of us can relate to meeting someone who becomes part of your life, but they aren't ever meant to stay in your life.

beachy said:

kellyna said:

Beachy - in the Spin interview which you posted the link earlier, they talk about how it was the conflict of possibly two movie deals, so I think that was also part of the issue between Prince and Vanity, it wasn't only the Motown deal.

For the film’s love interest, Prince cast Vanity, née Denise Matthews, as an aspiring singer torn between the affections of the Kid and Morris.

MAGNOLI When I met Vanity, I was at [nightclub] First Avenue, in the mezzanine area. Before anyone even said a word, I felt a quickening in the air. Within seconds, people started buzzing, “Vanity’s here, Vanity’s here.” I saw her coming through, one of the most beautiful women you could ever lay your eyes on, packed into latex or whatever second skin, looking exquisite.

COLEMAN Vanity was supposed to be the lead, but she left right before the film. It almost tanked the film. I don’t know what happened. Maybe it was a personal issue between her and Prince. They were dating.

MELVOIN My only speculation was that they had a big blowout. That’s what I heard. They had a huge blowout and she bolted.

MAGNOLI What happened was — and it’s the Hollywood story — Martin Scorsese was casting for The Last Temptation of Christ, and they gave her an offer to play Mary Magdalene. She came to me and said, “Listen, I’ve got this offer, my agent wants me to take it, what should I do?” I felt bad for her because I knew she was in a terrible bind. In the end, she and her representative made the determination that they would do the Scorsese project, which then got delayed because of financing.

ok i understand but I just wanted to see the article where it said he made her choose, to see if I could glean any other details. does anybody know where they saw it? Genius or Kelly or anyone else?

Yeah I posted it. It's a couple of pages back (Reply#1289). It's from the Spin Magazine and it talks about all sorts of things and updates alot of viewpoints that people have discussed/disputed on this thread.

http://www.spin.com/2016/04/prince-the-oral-history-of-purple-rain-brian-raftery/

purplegirl00 said:

Here's one thing I keep thinking about..Prince and Vanity, if our timelines are correct, were together beginning in 1980- that is nearly 36 years ago. That a LONG time, a lifetime really, to get someone out of your system. If his love for her had cooled, he probably would've made a comment or two during his concert and that's about it. No, the man dedicates a whole concert in her honor and not only that, pours himself out. . This is no fanfic. Much of what we've covered in this thread, has been based on true sources- interviews, articles, and then connections to lyrics. Of course, most importantly, things Prince and Vanity have both each said themselves (recent concerts right before his death and excerpts from her book). It's not made up. I'm sure more will come out in the weeks, months, and years ahead. [Edited 5/28/16 12:45pm]

like I said earler, he could have stopped with a short announcement and LRC because that one is not really so romantic. If he had no feelings for her anymore he would have stopped there.

He didn't even stop with 1 concert, he did it again in the 2nd concert and there are bits in Oakland and Atlanta that I am aware of and perhaps other concerts too I haven't listened to Toronto. or all the Calif concerts.

beachy said:

cng89 said:

But Prince didn't exactly let Denise go, she left him. I don't think he was putting on an act with the sadness when she passed. Prince has never been fake about anything. And if I'm not mistaken, he tried to get her back over the years after their break-up. I think it's important that people know that SHE left him, not the other way around.

I think the article I posted about the photographer showed it was not an act. I don't think he went around telling people how upset he was, he dismissed them and kept to himself but she saw a tenderness and vulnerability she had never seen before. I think other than what he said in the shows, he was quite private about his feelings.

Prince never talked about his personal life ever, I don't think. He never even spoke about the death of his baby. I think he was one of those people who just grieved when they were alone. He kept everything to himself. I don't even think he would have even spilled the beans in his bio. He would have talked in code and it would have had us like, 'c'mon now, Prince!. LOL.

beachy said:

SunnyGirl8 said:

Thanks Beachy - so that was his last professional photo. Wow!

yeah! He had no entourage with him...that was unusual, I wonder if he dismissed them for the day when he found out she had died. I love how we have this record of him being vulnerable and tender when he found out...it contrasts with how he partied after the concerts!

And the no entourage thing aligns with what his bodyguard (who got sent back to Texas for a break in the week he died in PP) said. The bodyguard cameout and was trying to defend Prince over the drug allegations as he said he would pack his bag when he was touring and had been on the road with him. He implied that as it was a cut down tour of just Prince on the Piano that he was only travelling with his minimum security staff. Same as on the plane - I think there were only 2 people with him (I don't know if that included the pilot).

Mumio said:

cng89 said:

To me, God and music were the most important things in life. I don't think any woman could compete with those two.

Yes, Jehovah and his music. And truthfully, that's the way it was for Vanity too....except it was God for her. Similar paths but not intended to pursue them together. I think many of us can relate to meeting someone who becomes part of your life, but they aren't ever meant to stay in your life.

Ding, ding, ding! See, I almost stood up and did a church shout because what you said really gave me chills!

SunnyGirl8 said:

beachy said:

ok i understand but I just wanted to see the article where it said he made her choose, to see if I could glean any other details. does anybody know where they saw it? Genius or Kelly or anyone else?

Yeah I posted it. It's a couple of pages back (Reply#1289). It's from the Spin Magazine and it talks about all sorts of things and updates alot of viewpoints that people have discussed/disputed on this thread.

http://www.spin.com/2016/04/prince-the-oral-history-of-purple-rain-brian-raftery/

Thanks. I'm looking for the one that says Prince told her she had to choose. This one says that she had to make a choice, as a logical thing. I think Genius is the one that mentioned it.

scriptgirl said:

That link to Vanity's Playboy interview doesn't work-I mean the video.

Also that pic of Prince and Vanity-the one where Susie is in it as well, where is that from?

I'm pretty sure it was used in the NME article that referenced Vanity's death at the time.

beachy said:

But of course it wasn't his focus to get married, that's what I've been saying. It doesn't mean he didn't fall in love or have deep feelings. That's what I mean by taking a love scenario and assuming marriage and children has to follow. For one thing, the life of a rock star is way different lifestyle than most of us. Constant travel, women stalking you and throwing themselves at you. Many women he liked were in love with him. He had wealth and could go and do what he liked when he wasn't working. He had lots of options.

Yeah and from experience, having been on the road can be very boring, tedious and hard work. You want a good team of people around you to work with and if you're shagging all of them (which his story/bio constantly seems to imply as every female collaborator/musician he works with is meant to be part of a harem - I mean come on get real!!!) the whole thing would fall apart pretty quickly. Why do you think he constantly refers through his work to lonely hotel rooms?

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cng89 said:

beachy said:

I think the article I posted about the photographer showed it was not an act. I don't think he went around telling people how upset he was, he dismissed them and kept to himself but she saw a tenderness and vulnerability she had never seen before. I think other than what he said in the shows, he was quite private about his feelings.

Prince never talked about his personal life ever, I don't think. He never even spoke about the death of his baby. I think he was one of those people who just grieved when they were alone. He kept everything to himself. I don't even think he would have even spilled the beans in his bio. He would have talked in code and it would have had us like, 'c'mon now, Prince!. LOL.

right code like PR and his songs. although he diid come right out and say the Beautiful Ones was about Vanity, and he came right out and said they used to love each other deeply. and other snippets in the concerts are very direct, bring her back home to me etc don't make sense without Vanity

purplegirl00 said:

beachy said:

But of course it wasn't his focus to get married, that's what I've been saying. It doesn't mean he didn't fall in love or have deep feelings. That's what I mean by taking a love scenario and assuming marriage and children has to follow. For one thing, the life of a rock star is way different lifestyle than most of us. Constant travel, women stalking you and throwing themselves at you. Many women he liked were in love with him. He had wealth and could go and do what he liked when he wasn't working. He had lots of options.

Agreed!

If you want confirmation that his focus wasn't on a traditonal relationship just listen to Way Back Home off the Art Official Age album (2014). He sings "I never wanted a typical life scripted role, huh...trophy wife. All I ever wanted was to be left alone"

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beachy said:

SunnyGirl8 said:

Yeah I posted it. It's a couple of pages back (Reply#1289). It's from the Spin Magazine and it talks about all sorts of things and updates alot of viewpoints that people have discussed/disputed on this thread.

http://www.spin.com/2016/04/prince-the-oral-history-of-purple-rain-brian-raftery/

Thanks. I'm looking for the one that says Prince told her she had to choose. This one says that she had to make a choice, as a logical thing. I think Genius is the one that mentioned it.

Again, she said it during the donnie simpson interview and i heard her talk about the prince days during her christian radio interviews she had in the 2000's it wasn't one particular time i can remember or place i read it (i've read so many things) other than those i have mentioned. I just know she said that she couldn't stay in MPLS with Prince and his camp and still do her Motown deal, which make s a lot of sense...its understanadable...no mystery there

SunnyGirl8 said:

purplegirl00 said:

beachy said: Agreed!

If you want confirmation that his focus wasn't on a traditonal relationship just listen to Way Back Home off the Art Official Age album (2014). He sings "I never wanted a typical life scripted role, huh...trophy wife. All I ever wanted, to be left alone"

yeah and I personally am like that as well. So I get it. Doesn't mean I havent fallen in love and tried to fashion a nontraditional relationship that would work for me, and maybe he was trying to do that too.

beachy said:

SunnyGirl8 said:

If you want confirmation that his focus wasn't on a traditonal relationship just listen to Way Back Home off the Art Official Age album (2014). He sings "I never wanted a typical life scripted role, huh...trophy wife. All I ever wanted, to be left alone"

yeah and I personally am like that as well. So I get it. Doesn't mean I havent fallen in love and tried to fashion a nontraditional relationship that would work for me, and maybe he was trying to do that too.

Honestly, the more I look at this whole thread and differing opinions on here it leads to one clear conclusion, if you really you want to get to the bottom of what he felt and thought, look at what he's writing and singing about. He's telling you what he thinks. And he's telling you in a really clever way with all these layered nuances of symbolism and language. He totally exploits every art form he touches to give you a full multi-dimensional story. And he was a master at conveying his emotions and feelings through music. Why do you think that all of you feel so much for him? It's not just about how he looked.

But hey if you'd rather argue about trivialities to do with the wash of information and buzz that surrounds him, go ahead. But it's not where the truth lies.

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purplegirl00 said:

Here's one thing I keep thinking about..Prince and Vanity, if our timelines are correct, were together beginning in 1980- that is nearly 36 years ago. That a LONG time, a lifetime really, to get someone out of your system. If his love for her had cooled, he probably would've made a comment or two during his concert and that's about it. No, the man dedicates a whole concert in her honor and not only that, pours himself out. . This is no fanfic. Much of what we've covered in this thread, has been based on true sources- interviews, articles, and then connections to lyrics. Of course, most importantly, things Prince and Vanity have both each said themselves (recent concerts right before his death and excerpts from her book). It's not made up. I'm sure more will come out in the weeks, months, and years ahead. [Edited 5/28/16 12:45pm]

I would agree. The minute you look at the full dimensions of his art as a songwriter and storyteller you realise that Vanity/Denise was his main muse. He was writing about her the whole time. Why? Who knows? Were they together? Who knows? But he was writing about her. It's all there.

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SunnyGirl8 said:

beachy said:

yeah and I personally am like that as well. So I get it. Doesn't mean I havent fallen in love and tried to fashion a nontraditional relationship that would work for me, and maybe he was trying to do that too.

Honestly, the more I look at this whole thread and differing opinions on here it leads to one clear conclusion, if you really if you want to get to the bottom of what he felt and thought, look at what he's writing and singing about. He's telling you what he thinks. And he's telling you in a really clever way with all these layered nuances of symbolism and language. He totally exploits every art form he touches to give you a full multi-dimensional story. And he was a master at conveying his emotions and feelings through music. Why all of you feel so much for him? It's not just about how he looked.

But hey if you'd rather argue about trivialities to do with the wash of information and buzz that surrounds him, go ahead. But it's not where the truth lies.

[Edited 5/28/16 13:48pm]

It is True -Prince touched me in ways that are not about his "looK" but the music it is what drew me

SunnyGirl8 said:

SunnyGirl8 said:

purplegirl00 said:

beachy said: Agreed!

If you want confirmation that his focus wasn't on a traditonal relationship just listen to Way Back Home off the Art Official Age album (2014). He sings "I never wanted a typical life scripted role, huh...trophy wife. All I ever wanted, to be left alone"

Hmm....i dunno Bcuz he married Mayte (didn't have to she was like 21, so why propose?) just keep living together and then lost 2 babies with her...one was actually alive for a bit You'd think that would be it for him 1 divorce, 2 lost children.....

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So, then he got married again to Mani..why do that more than once? Some part of him must have wanted the marriage & family thing..or why keep trying?

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Many celebrities have multiple wives and children, partly because they crave normalcy..especially as they get older. I have heard several famous people say that, family keeps you grounded......just saying

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GeniusLuv said:

SunnyGirl8 said:

If you want confirmation that his focus wasn't on a traditonal relationship just listen to Way Back Home off the Art Official Age album (2014). He sings "I never wanted a typical life scripted role, huh...trophy wife. All I ever wanted, to be left alone"

Hmm....i dunno Bcuz he married Mayte (didn't have to she was like 21, so why propose?) just keep living together and then lost 2 babies with her...one was actually alive for a bit You'd think that would be it for him 1 divorce, 2 lost children.....

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So, then he got married again to Mani..why do that more than once? Some part of him must have wanted the marriage & family thing..or why keep trying?

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Many celebrities have multiple wives and children, partly because they crave normalcy..especially as they get older. I have heard several famous people say that, family keeps you grounded......just saying

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Of course he cared for these women too but I don't believe he necessarily liked the idea of marriage. My opinion of course.

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GeniusLuv said:

SunnyGirl8 said:

If you want confirmation that his focus wasn't on a traditonal relationship just listen to Way Back Home off the Art Official Age album (2014). He sings "I never wanted a typical life scripted role, huh...trophy wife. All I ever wanted, to be left alone"

Hmm....i dunno Bcuz he married Mayte (didn't have to she was like 21, so why propose?) just keep living together and then lost 2 babies with her...one was actually alive for a bit You'd think that would be it for him 1 divorce, 2 lost children.....

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So, then he got married again to Mani..why do that more than once? Some part of him must have wanted the marriage & family thing..or why keep trying?

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Many celebrities have multiple wives and children, partly because they crave normalcy..especially as they get older. I have heard several famous people say that, family keeps you grounded......just saying

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I don't think it's appropriate to discuss Mayte at this stage, she is grieving. All I'd say if you want his story at any stage in his life, look deeper into the songs he was writing at the time, the themes etc. You'll draw your own conclusions as to what was going on with him. He laid it out for you.

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I don't Prince was depressed about Vanity but had regret over not reconciling that particular relationship before she passed away. I believe that at the age of 57 he had reached a stage in his life where it was about God and music. With that in mind I don't think he's been writing about Vanity all these years. Maybe in the beginning, but I think he moved on and made God his true love.

SunnyGirl8 said:

GeniusLuv said:

Hmm....i dunno Bcuz he married Mayte (didn't have to she was like 21, so why propose?) just keep living together and then lost 2 babies with her...one was actually alive for a bit You'd think that would be it for him 1 divorce, 2 lost children.....

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So, then he got married again to Mani..why do that more than once? Some part of him must have wanted the marriage & family thing..or why keep trying?

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Many celebrities have multiple wives and children, partly because they crave normalcy..especially as they get older. I have heard several famous people say that, family keeps you grounded......just saying

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I don't think it's appropriate to discuss Mayte at this stage, she is grieving. All I'd say if you want his story at any stage in his life, look deeper into the songs he was writing at the time, the themes etc. You'll draw your own conclusions as to what was going on with him. He laid it out for you.

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I agree, his music was his way of communicating and there is a lot there to look into..with that said, i also go by his interviews, what he shared and the most telling for me was with Oprah interview..he was giddy over his llife at the time, never saw him smile or laugh in interviews before or show off his home (baby playroom) he seemed to be looking ahead, positively...especially for impending fatherhood..even though baby Ahmir had sadly passed by the time it aired. Thats what i saw and felt. Its my take on things

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I'm not commenting on his life at that point anymore, bcuz ONLY he, Prince, knew the truth...what he felt and whom he felt for. And for me, in life its really what a person takes from anothers actions and words..and thats what i got from all i've seen and heard from his own lips.

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I do feel though, LATER in life..his God, his religion and his music were his muse. Its where he found peace and comfort i believe, especially after losing his son and multiple failed relationships.

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I also feel he was in poor health and like Denise, it changed him in the end b4 he went home to be with God, which they say is what happens...your soul prepares to depart

bondno9 said:

I don't Prince was depressed about Vanity but had regret over not reconciling that particular relationship before she passed away. I believe that at the age of 57 he had reached a stage in his life where it was about God and music. With that in mind I don't think he's been writing about Vanity all these years. Maybe in the beginning, but I think he moved on and made God his true love.

I must respectfully agree to disagree.

I believe Prince had strong faith in God but I also believe he is a human being and he can be celibate and he can proselytize for his faith and be "married" to the music but I also believe that he had real relationships and his relationship with Denise was one that stood til the end of time.

I believe they shared a connection that was something that is beyond what is here on earth very spiritual and soulful. One could not exist on earth without the other. People are soul and spirit and theirs were entwined soul/spirit stuff is very mysterious but I believe they shared something in that level to the point he followed her in death.

Their lives (as so many have said on this thread )were on the same paths and it is so clear-things that are factual not made up fangirl stuff. Their passing so closely to each other was just something else that reflects their paths being "same" throughout their lives.

I cannot even begin to touch Purple Rain and it being about them and that being the vehicle that cemented Prince as an International Superstar - his life with her was a big part of himthat resulted in being part of his public persona for the ages.

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I have always said that the 2 of them passing so closely 2gether was definitley a continuation of what was happening between them here, on earth in the physical world..their love obviously transcended all space and time.

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I will always believe that...she willed him to her, and like in life, they mirrored each other in death as well. She got the face to face she wanted with him. Eternally.

GeniusLuv said:

I have always said that the 2 of them passing so closely 2gether was definitley a continuation of what was happening between them here, on earth in the physical world..their love obviously transcended all space and time.

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I will always believe that...she willed him to her, and like in life, they mirrored each other in death as well. She got the face to face she wanted with him. Eternally.