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Reply #150 posted 07/01/15 2:45pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

Genesia said:

Angelsoncrack said:

Didn't his dad kick him out for his uh...extracuricular activities? And this was when he was pretty young (like 15?). It doesn't make sense for his dad to just kick him out instead of just asking him to not do that in his house (in which case his dad did and he carried on doing it, maybe he had a point of punishing him, but kicking him out seems a bit too far). Dude came from a pretty rough home.


It's nothing mysterious. Prince's parents split up. Mattie remarried and Prince didn't get along with his stepdad (which is not uncommon). He goes to live with his dad, but doesn't want to follow his dad's rules. His dad boots him and he goes to live in Andre's basement.

And there are very few kids who were raised in the 60s who weren't "abused" by today's standards. Yelling was common. Spanking was common. I have never heard Prince say it went beyond anything like that.

[Edited 7/1/15 13:26pm]

Exactly! prince has rarely if EVER talked about his family. The most he has said was in the cut "Papa" & his MEGA hit number #1 single "WDC"... What peeps would be shocked to know is he really was close with his family during his adult years & regularly invited them to his shows.

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #151 posted 07/01/15 3:13pm

Superfan1984

thank you!!!! that's exactly what I meant! all of this "abuse" seems to be made up in Orgers heads as I've never heard of anything specific and certainly nothing terrible. Some things in Prince's life we know are a fact and others, just seem to be created in people's minds.
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Reply #152 posted 07/01/15 6:34pm

MJ007

Superfan1984 said:

thank you!!!! that's exactly what I meant! all of this "abuse" seems to be made up in Orgers heads as I've never heard of anything specific and certainly nothing terrible. Some things in Prince's life we know are a fact and others, just seem to be created in people's minds.


The fact is shuffling from home to home because of problems at home is not an easy life for a child. Nothing needs to be embellished.
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Reply #153 posted 07/01/15 6:39pm

Superfan1984

I agree. But "not easy" and "traumatic" are different things. I think all of us could tell of bad things or upsetting things in our childhood, and some people could tell us of traumatizing childhoods (unfortunately) anyway--- I hope Prince did NOT have a terrible childhood and I feel for anyone who has. Ok- last I'm saying on this subject! Would be nice if Prince would write his OWN book and set the record straight but we know that will never happen.
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Reply #154 posted 07/02/15 12:07am

NorthC

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Wow cool. boogie

Interesting..... I would love to read her view on their marriage.

Sweet, I am still in love with her after so many years.. Mayte she is really sweet. heart


I think she married the wrong person. wink
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Reply #155 posted 07/02/15 10:34am

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MJ007 said:

Superfan1984 said:
thank you!!!! that's exactly what I meant! all of this "abuse" seems to be made up in Orgers heads as I've never heard of anything specific and certainly nothing terrible. Some things in Prince's life we know are a fact and others, just seem to be created in people's minds.
The fact is shuffling from home to home because of problems at home is not an easy life for a child. Nothing needs to be embellished.


Oh, come on. He was 15 years old (or so) - and it was his own doing. It's not like his parents kicked an 8-year-old to the curb.

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Reply #156 posted 07/02/15 11:03am

Superfan1984

that's how I've always seen it. You know, "You don't like the rules of this house, you can leave" ---- and he did.
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Reply #157 posted 07/02/15 11:14am

RJOrion

"...PLEASE DAD!....SHE'S HEARD U!..."

"...WHATS DA MATTER WITH THIS HOUSSSSSE?!?!?..."
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Reply #158 posted 07/02/15 5:42pm

BillieBalloon

Superfan1984 said:

I think physical abuse is terrible!!! I'm just saying, I have never heard Prince say that! Give me the interview or the quote where he says that! that's all I'm saying! I think Orgers have surmised that but I'm just saying I've never heard him say that. And as far as him going home to home, was that because he wanted to live with his friend because he didn't like his stepdad? or because he HAD to? I'm just saying, I thought it was because he CHOSE to and would have preferred to live with the dad but the dad said no.None of this good, of course, but when I think traumtazing I think beatings, child molestation, etc.

So only pbysical abuse is damaging not emotional abuse. Lets not get into an argument about whats worse. ..also I think he witnessed violence between his parents. ..that is also classified as abuse.
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Reply #159 posted 07/02/15 5:50pm

BillieBalloon

Genesia said:



MJ007 said:


Superfan1984 said:
thank you!!!! that's exactly what I meant! all of this "abuse" seems to be made up in Orgers heads as I've never heard of anything specific and certainly nothing terrible. Some things in Prince's life we know are a fact and others, just seem to be created in people's minds.

The fact is shuffling from home to home because of problems at home is not an easy life for a child. Nothing needs to be embellished.


Oh, come on. He was 15 years old (or so) - and it was his own doing. It's not like his parents kicked an 8-year-old to the curb.


Really? What does a 15 yr old know about life? You dont parent until your kid gets on your nerves and then disown them! His dad was a womaniser by all accounts as well.
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Reply #160 posted 07/02/15 6:13pm

babynoz

Relying on my memory from the books and articles I've read he was around 12 when he first left.

Tyka's book suggests that the stepdad was abusive and that there was a very difficult family dynamic. What Tyka left unsaid is as telling as what she actually wrote. She ran away as well and no one went looking for either one of them when they left IIRC.

Reading her book will give even the most insensitive person some empathy, I believe.

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Reply #161 posted 07/02/15 7:07pm

MJ007

Genesia said:

MJ007 said:

Superfan1984 said: The fact is shuffling from home to home because of problems at home is not an easy life for a child. Nothing needs to be embellished.


Oh, come on. He was 15 years old (or so) - and it was his own doing. It's not like his parents kicked an 8-year-old to the curb.

No, you come on. You're no authority on Prince's childhood like anyone else in this forum. I have read that there was abuse in his childhood. However, the specific details was not the point of my statement. Shuffling from home to home because of problems at home is not an easy life for a child PERIOD. What I said still stands.

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Reply #162 posted 07/02/15 7:48pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

RJOrion said:

"...PLEASE DAD!....SHE'S HEARD U!..." "...WHATS DA MATTER WITH THIS HOUSSSSSSE?!?!?..."

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eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #163 posted 07/03/15 8:51pm

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Genesia said:



Angelsoncrack said:




MJ007 said:



I know really! Furthermore, if a kid has to go from home to home until he finally lands at a friend's house because his parents wont take him, I'd say that's a pretty f'd up childhood. Something has gone really wrong in his immediate family. For someone to think that's a relatively easy/not a "hard life" life for a child, is beyond me. He ran away from home at one point. Things aren't all roses if a kid is running away from home. You don't have to be a social worker to see that.



Didn't his dad kick him out for his uh...extracuricular activities? And this was when he was pretty young (like 15?). It doesn't make sense for his dad to just kick him out instead of just asking him to not do that in his house (in which case his dad did and he carried on doing it, maybe he had a point of punishing him, but kicking him out seems a bit too far). Dude came from a pretty rough home.




It's nothing mysterious. Prince's parents split up. Mattie remarried and Prince didn't get along with his stepdad (which is not uncommon). He goes to live with his dad, but doesn't want to follow his dad's rules. His dad boots him and he goes to live in Andre's basement.



And there are very few kids who were raised in the 60s who weren't "abused" by today's standards. Yelling was common. Spanking was common. I have never heard Prince say it went beyond anything like that.

[Edited 7/1/15 13:26pm]


--- When Oprah asked him about abuse he said his father had his moments. I am not sure why so many people on this board are pretending he has not talked about this. We all got spankings back in the day but their is a big difference between a spanking and a beat down. I am not going to go into what verbal abuse can do to a child.
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Reply #164 posted 07/04/15 12:42pm

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Genesia said:

MJ007 said:

Superfan1984 said: The fact is shuffling from home to home because of problems at home is not an easy life for a child. Nothing needs to be embellished.


Oh, come on. He was 15 years old (or so) - and it was his own doing. It's not like his parents kicked an 8-year-old to the curb.

I think what some of us need to take into consideration is that what we can live through is not necessarily what somoene else can live through. Each person's psyche is and individual and fragile thing.

Some of us can look at something and say, no big deal, others can be destroyed by the same action.

There is no doubt that his childhood did a lot to form him as a man...and in my humble opinion, the man he became does not lend itself to the "all american apple pie" childhood (if that even exists).

Because of their half-baked mistakes, we get ice cream, no cake; all lies, no truth; is it fair to Kill the YOUTH ~~ Party Up
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Reply #165 posted 07/04/15 6:56pm

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imo it's not really any of our business...

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Reply #166 posted 07/04/15 7:16pm

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XxAxX said:

imo it's not really any of our business...

How dare you be so rational lol

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Reply #167 posted 07/05/15 9:33am

babynoz

Lots of the content here regarding Prince is none of our business but that is neither here nor there. I seldom comment on his personal life but the pertinent question here is does Mayte have the right to discuss those details in a tell all book?

And btw, it's her life too. It's not something I'd do but that doesn't mean she doesn't have the right to do it whether we like the idea or not.

Like it or not she doesn't want or need our approval. I happen to think she ain't very bright but that's just me. shrug

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #168 posted 07/05/15 4:42pm

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XxAxX said:

imo it's not really any of our business...


But he put the info out and so did his sister.
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Reply #169 posted 07/05/15 7:07pm

BillieBalloon

XxAxX said:

imo it's not really any of our business...



Er no it isnt...but when you make a film and say its semi autobiographical and talk about things publically..then youre making it everyones business. Also, I dont think people are being malicious. .there is actually a degree of sympathy for him..and maybe it even makes him more human to talk about these things..because we all go through stuff..and its nothing to be ashamed of. We all know about michael jacksons difficult childhood and madonnas (her mother's early death etc) for instance. There are numerous famous people past and present who had diffuculties early on and the public know about it.
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Reply #170 posted 07/05/15 8:49pm

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babynoz said:

Lots of the content here regarding Prince is none of our business but that is neither here nor there. I seldom comment on his personal life but the pertinent question here is does Mayte have the right to discuss those details in a tell all book?

And btw, it's her life too. It's not something I'd do but that doesn't mean she doesn't have the right to do it whether we like the idea or not.

Like it or not she doesn't want or need our approval. I happen to think she ain't very bright but that's just me. shrug

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ditto that. i know she has the right to say what she's gonna say, and you're right it was her ride too. but, it still feels sort of, i dunno. like selling off the last scraps of a once-great love affair. the price of fame, i guess. hope it all works out

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Reply #171 posted 07/06/15 12:10pm

prittypriss

Just some food for thought on the effects of having lived through a traumatic (abusive) childhood on the individual as an adult:

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Survivors often find it difficult to trust others. As children they might have been betrayed by the very adults who were meant to nurture and protect them. As a result, survivors often find it difficult to form and sustain relationships. A large survey of adult survivors of child abuse in Australia found that survivors had a higher rate of failed relationships and marriages, and reported lower levels of social interaction (Draper, Pirkis et al. 2008).

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Childhood trauma and abuse doesn’t just affect the mind - they can affect the body too. Children who feel perpetually in danger grow up with a heightened stress response. This in turn heightens their emotions, makes it difficult to sleep, lowers immune function, and, over time, increases the risk of a number of physical illnesses.

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  • Narcissistic personality disorder: a pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and lack of empathy
  • Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder: a pervasive preoccupation with orderliness, perfectionism, and mental and interpersonal control, at the expense of flexibility, openness and efficiency.

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As a survivor myself of years of abuse, I can tell you that trusting others is a MAJOR issue for me. Relationships have never ran smooth because of those trust issues. Also, since I had so little control in my childhood, I tend to want to control everything around me as an adult, but most especially my own emotions, which also causes relationship problems. I have very few close friends, only two, and have little to nothing to do with my family. My family tends to be those chosen friends that have proven they can be trusted. I also have fears of abandonment, as my father came home one day and told me that he was putting me up for adoption (to my 8 year old mind - he was telling me he didn't want me). Then I moved in with relatives and was told repeatedly how I wasn't really wanted. That has a HUGE impact on your psyche. I have also spent most of my life looking for answers, looking at religions, God, etc., needing and wanting to feel that my life, the purpose for what I experienced, had some greater meaning. At a very young age, because of all the pain I experienced, I realized that love was the key to everything, that without love for one another we would continue to hurt each other, without love for one another we would continue to suffer, and my life became about ensuring that I always tried to exhibit that love towards others, but oftentimes, the trust and emotional control would be foremost and what I wanted to express to others emotionally, in a loving way, was not always understood. And the one thing I have sought for, the one thing I have always wanted, was to just be loved. Truly loved for who I am, imperfections and all, and to give that love truly to another.

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Feeling that you aren't wanted, being put out of your home, the emotional scars that can cause is tremendous, even if he had experienced no physical abuse. I ran away multiple times. I have been on my own since I was 7, truly. And I believe that Prince has as well. Does any of the above sound like our sensitive soul?

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Reply #172 posted 07/06/15 5:32pm

MJ007

prittypriss said:

Just some food for thought on the effects of having lived through a traumatic (abusive) childhood on the individual as an adult:

.

Survivors often find it difficult to trust others. As children they might have been betrayed by the very adults who were meant to nurture and protect them. As a result, survivors often find it difficult to form and sustain relationships. A large survey of adult survivors of child abuse in Australia found that survivors had a higher rate of failed relationships and marriages, and reported lower levels of social interaction (Draper, Pirkis et al. 2008).

.

Childhood trauma and abuse doesn’t just affect the mind - they can affect the body too. Children who feel perpetually in danger grow up with a heightened stress response. This in turn heightens their emotions, makes it difficult to sleep, lowers immune function, and, over time, increases the risk of a number of physical illnesses.

.

  • Narcissistic personality disorder: a pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and lack of empathy
  • Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder: a pervasive preoccupation with orderliness, perfectionism, and mental and interpersonal control, at the expense of flexibility, openness and efficiency.

.

As a survivor myself of years of abuse, I can tell you that trusting others is a MAJOR issue for me. Relationships have never ran smooth because of those trust issues. Also, since I had so little control in my childhood, I tend to want to control everything around me as an adult, but most especially my own emotions, which also causes relationship problems. I have very few close friends, only two, and have little to nothing to do with my family. My family tends to be those chosen friends that have proven they can be trusted. I also have fears of abandonment, as my father came home one day and told me that he was putting me up for adoption (to my 8 year old mind - he was telling me he didn't want me). Then I moved in with relatives and was told repeatedly how I wasn't really wanted. That has a HUGE impact on your psyche. I have also spent most of my life looking for answers, looking at religions, God, etc., needing and wanting to feel that my life, the purpose for what I experienced, had some greater meaning. At a very young age, because of all the pain I experienced, I realized that love was the key to everything, that without love for one another we would continue to hurt each other, without love for one another we would continue to suffer, and my life became about ensuring that I always tried to exhibit that love towards others, but oftentimes, the trust and emotional control would be foremost and what I wanted to express to others emotionally, in a loving way, was not always understood. And the one thing I have sought for, the one thing I have always wanted, was to just be loved. Truly loved for who I am, imperfections and all, and to give that love truly to another.

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Feeling that you aren't wanted, being put out of your home, the emotional scars that can cause is tremendous, even if he had experienced no physical abuse. I ran away multiple times. I have been on my own since I was 7, truly. And I believe that Prince has as well. Does any of the above sound like our sensitive soul?

The impact of abuse, emotional or physical, is nothing to be flippant about - doesn't matter if the child is 15 or 8. Thank you for sharing your story. hug

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Reply #173 posted 07/06/15 5:45pm

babynoz

MJ007 said:

prittypriss said:

Just some food for thought on the effects of having lived through a traumatic (abusive) childhood on the individual as an adult:

.

Survivors often find it difficult to trust others. As children they might have been betrayed by the very adults who were meant to nurture and protect them. As a result, survivors often find it difficult to form and sustain relationships. A large survey of adult survivors of child abuse in Australia found that survivors had a higher rate of failed relationships and marriages, and reported lower levels of social interaction (Draper, Pirkis et al. 2008).

.

Childhood trauma and abuse doesn’t just affect the mind - they can affect the body too. Children who feel perpetually in danger grow up with a heightened stress response. This in turn heightens their emotions, makes it difficult to sleep, lowers immune function, and, over time, increases the risk of a number of physical illnesses.

.

  • Narcissistic personality disorder: a pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and lack of empathy
  • Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder: a pervasive preoccupation with orderliness, perfectionism, and mental and interpersonal control, at the expense of flexibility, openness and efficiency.

.

As a survivor myself of years of abuse, I can tell you that trusting others is a MAJOR issue for me. Relationships have never ran smooth because of those trust issues. Also, since I had so little control in my childhood, I tend to want to control everything around me as an adult, but most especially my own emotions, which also causes relationship problems. I have very few close friends, only two, and have little to nothing to do with my family. My family tends to be those chosen friends that have proven they can be trusted. I also have fears of abandonment, as my father came home one day and told me that he was putting me up for adoption (to my 8 year old mind - he was telling me he didn't want me). Then I moved in with relatives and was told repeatedly how I wasn't really wanted. That has a HUGE impact on your psyche. I have also spent most of my life looking for answers, looking at religions, God, etc., needing and wanting to feel that my life, the purpose for what I experienced, had some greater meaning. At a very young age, because of all the pain I experienced, I realized that love was the key to everything, that without love for one another we would continue to hurt each other, without love for one another we would continue to suffer, and my life became about ensuring that I always tried to exhibit that love towards others, but oftentimes, the trust and emotional control would be foremost and what I wanted to express to others emotionally, in a loving way, was not always understood. And the one thing I have sought for, the one thing I have always wanted, was to just be loved. Truly loved for who I am, imperfections and all, and to give that love truly to another.

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Feeling that you aren't wanted, being put out of your home, the emotional scars that can cause is tremendous, even if he had experienced no physical abuse. I ran away multiple times. I have been on my own since I was 7, truly. And I believe that Prince has as well. Does any of the above sound like our sensitive soul?

The impact of abuse, emotional or physical, is nothing to be flippant about - doesn't matter if the child is 15 or 8. Thank you for sharing your story. hug



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Reply #174 posted 07/07/15 2:38pm

Angelsoncrack

Just reading all the stuff on here...I bet if a psychoanalist got to see Prince it would be a very interesting experience for them both.

I never doubted that Princes control issues were due to his childhood, but the stuff you posted above Prittypriss is very interesting indeed.

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Reply #175 posted 07/07/15 3:12pm

terrig

prittypriss said:

Just some food for thought on the effects of having lived through a traumatic (abusive) childhood on the individual as an adult:

.

Survivors often find it difficult to trust others. As children they might have been betrayed by the very adults who were meant to nurture and protect them. As a result, survivors often find it difficult to form and sustain relationships. A large survey of adult survivors of child abuse in Australia found that survivors had a higher rate of failed relationships and marriages, and reported lower levels of social interaction (Draper, Pirkis et al. 2008).

.

Childhood trauma and abuse doesn’t just affect the mind - they can affect the body too. Children who feel perpetually in danger grow up with a heightened stress response. This in turn heightens their emotions, makes it difficult to sleep, lowers immune function, and, over time, increases the risk of a number of physical illnesses.

.

  • Narcissistic personality disorder: a pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and lack of empathy
  • Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder: a pervasive preoccupation with orderliness, perfectionism, and mental and interpersonal control, at the expense of flexibility, openness and efficiency.

.

As a survivor myself of years of abuse, I can tell you that trusting others is a MAJOR issue for me. Relationships have never ran smooth because of those trust issues. Also, since I had so little control in my childhood, I tend to want to control everything around me as an adult, but most especially my own emotions, which also causes relationship problems. I have very few close friends, only two, and have little to nothing to do with my family. My family tends to be those chosen friends that have proven they can be trusted. I also have fears of abandonment, as my father came home one day and told me that he was putting me up for adoption (to my 8 year old mind - he was telling me he didn't want me). Then I moved in with relatives and was told repeatedly how I wasn't really wanted. That has a HUGE impact on your psyche. I have also spent most of my life looking for answers, looking at religions, God, etc., needing and wanting to feel that my life, the purpose for what I experienced, had some greater meaning. At a very young age, because of all the pain I experienced, I realized that love was the key to everything, that without love for one another we would continue to hurt each other, without love for one another we would continue to suffer, and my life became about ensuring that I always tried to exhibit that love towards others, but oftentimes, the trust and emotional control would be foremost and what I wanted to express to others emotionally, in a loving way, was not always understood. And the one thing I have sought for, the one thing I have always wanted, was to just be loved. Truly loved for who I am, imperfections and all, and to give that love truly to another.

.

Feeling that you aren't wanted, being put out of your home, the emotional scars that can cause is tremendous, even if he had experienced no physical abuse. I ran away multiple times. I have been on my own since I was 7, truly. And I believe that Prince has as well. Does any of the above sound like our sensitive soul?



I've been in this place, and was diagnosed with PTSD in my early 20's based on what I went through as a child.

No one gets to judge how 'hard' someones backstory is...abuse is abuse. Period.

I didnt begin to heal until I for the most part 'divorced' my family. It was the best thing I ever did, and am happy and healthy and managed to work through it, alone, but it is what it is... everyones journey is different and should be respected.

I realize this was Maytes life too, but quite frankly, no one cares one iota about that really. Its interesting because its Prince, not because its Mayte. Selling off intimate details is really low and if you ever really loved someone why would you do that?

It goes to show that groupie girls are groupie girls through and through. You can't be pimped by your mom to a rock star at 16 and have the dignity instilled in you that you need to manage yourself as an adult. Her momma did her very very wrong ....Prince did her wrong too, but neither one of them were able to manage a healthy adult marriage - it can't start out the way it did and end up all rainbows and flowers. It's been awhile though and she did get everything she needed to be able to move on, and alot of therapy should have been her main focus.

She seems to be a perpetual victim without ever taking responsibility to move on and reclaim some dignity.

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Reply #176 posted 07/07/15 3:38pm

prittypriss

MJ007 said:

prittypriss said:

Just some food for thought on the effects of having lived through a traumatic (abusive) childhood on the individual as an adult:

.

Survivors often find it difficult to trust others. As children they might have been betrayed by the very adults who were meant to nurture and protect them. As a result, survivors often find it difficult to form and sustain relationships. A large survey of adult survivors of child abuse in Australia found that survivors had a higher rate of failed relationships and marriages, and reported lower levels of social interaction (Draper, Pirkis et al. 2008).

.

Childhood trauma and abuse doesn’t just affect the mind - they can affect the body too. Children who feel perpetually in danger grow up with a heightened stress response. This in turn heightens their emotions, makes it difficult to sleep, lowers immune function, and, over time, increases the risk of a number of physical illnesses.

.

  • Narcissistic personality disorder: a pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and lack of empathy
  • Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder: a pervasive preoccupation with orderliness, perfectionism, and mental and interpersonal control, at the expense of flexibility, openness and efficiency.

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As a survivor myself of years of abuse, I can tell you that trusting others is a MAJOR issue for me. Relationships have never ran smooth because of those trust issues. Also, since I had so little control in my childhood, I tend to want to control everything around me as an adult, but most especially my own emotions, which also causes relationship problems. I have very few close friends, only two, and have little to nothing to do with my family. My family tends to be those chosen friends that have proven they can be trusted. I also have fears of abandonment, as my father came home one day and told me that he was putting me up for adoption (to my 8 year old mind - he was telling me he didn't want me). Then I moved in with relatives and was told repeatedly how I wasn't really wanted. That has a HUGE impact on your psyche. I have also spent most of my life looking for answers, looking at religions, God, etc., needing and wanting to feel that my life, the purpose for what I experienced, had some greater meaning. At a very young age, because of all the pain I experienced, I realized that love was the key to everything, that without love for one another we would continue to hurt each other, without love for one another we would continue to suffer, and my life became about ensuring that I always tried to exhibit that love towards others, but oftentimes, the trust and emotional control would be foremost and what I wanted to express to others emotionally, in a loving way, was not always understood. And the one thing I have sought for, the one thing I have always wanted, was to just be loved. Truly loved for who I am, imperfections and all, and to give that love truly to another.

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Feeling that you aren't wanted, being put out of your home, the emotional scars that can cause is tremendous, even if he had experienced no physical abuse. I ran away multiple times. I have been on my own since I was 7, truly. And I believe that Prince has as well. Does any of the above sound like our sensitive soul?

The impact of abuse, emotional or physical, is nothing to be flippant about - doesn't matter if the child is 15 or 8. Thank you for sharing your story. hug

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EXACTLY! Honestly, I don't know what Prince's childhood or life contained, that was his journey, his life. Obviously, the man has done very well for himself, but given that he had to become independent at a young age, it doesn't suprise me that he became successful.

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I'm glad I'm here to share to my story. I learned that it's in silence that abuse is allowed to continue, and the shame, guilt, and blame a victim is made to feel is deep. I realized that I have nothing to feel shame for, nothing to feel guilt for, and I am not to blame for what the adults in my life did. I was a child and could not have prevented it from happening. And, no matter how uncomfortable it might make people sometimes to hear such stories, I won't be silent any more. It's only through bringing such trauma into the light of day, shining a light on it, that maybe, just maybe, we can begin to find a way to prevent it from happening to someone else.

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Reply #177 posted 07/07/15 3:48pm

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Angelsoncrack said:

Just reading all the stuff on here...I bet if a psychoanalist got to see Prince it would be a very interesting experience for them both.

I never doubted that Princes control issues were due to his childhood, but the stuff you posted above Prittypriss is very interesting indeed.

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lol I've a feeling Prince would be the one psychoanalyzing the therapist! He'd run circles around a psychoanalyst.

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I've always known his control issues were a throwback to his childhood. And I've always understood that need in him. I remember watching an interview in which he said something to the effect that he doesn't do well speaking in front of people, he speaks through his music. So I always understood why he had such a tight control on that music. Each song is like a little piece of his soul that he is revealing, but it is HIS to reveal and share. When someone comes along and takes it from you, it's like being that child again without any control over the situation.

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Reply #178 posted 07/07/15 4:04pm

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terrig said:

prittypriss said:

Just some food for thought on the effects of having lived through a traumatic (abusive) childhood on the individual as an adult:

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Survivors often find it difficult to trust others. As children they might have been betrayed by the very adults who were meant to nurture and protect them. As a result, survivors often find it difficult to form and sustain relationships. A large survey of adult survivors of child abuse in Australia found that survivors had a higher rate of failed relationships and marriages, and reported lower levels of social interaction (Draper, Pirkis et al. 2008).

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Childhood trauma and abuse doesn’t just affect the mind - they can affect the body too. Children who feel perpetually in danger grow up with a heightened stress response. This in turn heightens their emotions, makes it difficult to sleep, lowers immune function, and, over time, increases the risk of a number of physical illnesses.

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  • Narcissistic personality disorder: a pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and lack of empathy
  • Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder: a pervasive preoccupation with orderliness, perfectionism, and mental and interpersonal control, at the expense of flexibility, openness and efficiency.

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As a survivor myself of years of abuse, I can tell you that trusting others is a MAJOR issue for me. Relationships have never ran smooth because of those trust issues. Also, since I had so little control in my childhood, I tend to want to control everything around me as an adult, but most especially my own emotions, which also causes relationship problems. I have very few close friends, only two, and have little to nothing to do with my family. My family tends to be those chosen friends that have proven they can be trusted. I also have fears of abandonment, as my father came home one day and told me that he was putting me up for adoption (to my 8 year old mind - he was telling me he didn't want me). Then I moved in with relatives and was told repeatedly how I wasn't really wanted. That has a HUGE impact on your psyche. I have also spent most of my life looking for answers, looking at religions, God, etc., needing and wanting to feel that my life, the purpose for what I experienced, had some greater meaning. At a very young age, because of all the pain I experienced, I realized that love was the key to everything, that without love for one another we would continue to hurt each other, without love for one another we would continue to suffer, and my life became about ensuring that I always tried to exhibit that love towards others, but oftentimes, the trust and emotional control would be foremost and what I wanted to express to others emotionally, in a loving way, was not always understood. And the one thing I have sought for, the one thing I have always wanted, was to just be loved. Truly loved for who I am, imperfections and all, and to give that love truly to another.

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Feeling that you aren't wanted, being put out of your home, the emotional scars that can cause is tremendous, even if he had experienced no physical abuse. I ran away multiple times. I have been on my own since I was 7, truly. And I believe that Prince has as well. Does any of the above sound like our sensitive soul?



I've been in this place, and was diagnosed with PTSD in my early 20's based on what I went through as a child.

No one gets to judge how 'hard' someones backstory is...abuse is abuse. Period.

I didnt begin to heal until I for the most part 'divorced' my family. It was the best thing I ever did, and am happy and healthy and managed to work through it, alone, but it is what it is... everyones journey is different and should be respected.

I realize this was Maytes life too, but quite frankly, no one cares one iota about that really. Its interesting because its Prince, not because its Mayte. Selling off intimate details is really low and if you ever really loved someone why would you do that?

It goes to show that groupie girls are groupie girls through and through. You can't be pimped by your mom to a rock star at 16 and have the dignity instilled in you that you need to manage yourself as an adult. Her momma did her very very wrong ....Prince did her wrong too, but neither one of them were able to manage a healthy adult marriage - it can't start out the way it did and end up all rainbows and flowers. It's been awhile though and she did get everything she needed to be able to move on, and alot of therapy should have been her main focus.

She seems to be a perpetual victim without ever taking responsibility to move on and reclaim some dignity.

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Yeah, I was diagnosed with complex PTSD. It's not a recognized diagnosis in the DSM-V, but many therapists and counselors are advocating for it to be included. So they will "label" it complex PTSD, but when they bill, it's usually billed under PTSD. But it's also known as "developmental trauma disorder (DTD) or complex trauma" and is "a psychological injury that results from protracted exposure to prolonged social and/or interpersonal trauma in the context of dependence, captivity or entrapment (a situation lacking a viable escape)."

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Every one has a story. Every one has scars from the life they've lived. You can't get through life without developing some scars along the way. But how deeply those original cuts went is a highly personal thing, and how those scars have healed is also deeply personal. No two people will ever deal with a situation in exactly the same way. And no one can compare their stories to another and say, "I know exactly what you are feeling." Because we don't know exactly what that other person is feeling.

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I knew a lady that had one instance of abuse in her life, but it was enough that it impacted every aspect of her life from that moment on, drug abuse, alcoholism, prostitution. Her trust was completely betrayed in that one moment and she was never the same again. Her life was a complete and utter wreck. For myself, while I went through years of abuse, I've also gone on to get my graduate degree, have a successful career helping others, have incredible children in whom I'm extremely proud, but my relationships have sucked out the wazoo! lol But every other aspect of my life is fulfilling. I know why my relationships have sucked, and it's been strictly my trust, my abandonment, and my dissociative issues (someone can be talking to me and suddenly it's like they are speaking a foreign language - I can hear them, I'm interested in the conversation, but I've completely dissociated in that moment). And yes, I have not picked the best guys. But hey, everything else is great!

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Reply #179 posted 07/07/15 4:19pm

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Hopefully, Mayte's book does not reveal anything about Prince that has 1. not been revealed before or 2. that he has not given her permission to reveal. While I can understand her need to talk about her life, to tell her story, there are certain aspects of a person's life that should be their's and their's alone to reveal. So, when Mayte talks about what she needs to talk about, I hope she uses tact and class in the process. While her life with Prince was her experience, there were two people in that relationship and both should have a say-so about what does or does not go into print.

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