Who could I do without? Let me see...

Carmen Electra

Cat (her rapping was so horrendous that I'd rather listen to Tony M.)

Carmen Electra

Robin Power (again see my comment regarding Cat, this applies to this chick too)

Carmen Electra

Tony M.

Carmen Electra

Appolonia (as beautiful and as lovely as she seems to be, what else did she do of any significance but just fill in for Vanity?)

Carmen Electra

That's all I can think of for now.

[Edited 3/25/12 17:09pm]

WinterIsComing said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

That Morris you talk about is the Prince of UTCM that I can only take so much of

It's interesting you say this. I just had a conversation with a friend of mine about this. Morris's persona(Prince's utcm persona)" can get tired fast. Although I like the time, I think if they had stayed together immediately following ice cream castles, that schtick would have eventually worn out.

I agree, but if they did, the characters most likely would have developed

the Time & Vanity 6 in the Parade - SOTT eras would have taken on a High Society feel probably.

with the SOTT Hard Knock Life / Madhouse edge the Time & Vanity would have had a good place, but that is a nice fantasy to sleep on

The Family - I think I listened to that album once or twice over two decades ago and I never bothered with it again.

The Time - Never got into them either, not enough to purchase any of their albums.

Ingrid Chavez - I kinda semi-like Ingrid these days but when she worked with Prince she put me to sleep. Well, she still kinda puts me to sleep but I appreciate what she tries to do these days a bit more than I could when I was younger

Carmen Elektra - Pure and utter trash. I used to keep ALL Prince related albums/cd's back in the day and I put her CD in the garbage after a week of suffering thru it.

TC - I won't even commment on that.

The rest of them I found some way to appreciate on one level or another..

kenkamken said:

I'm not fond of Paul's reedy voice. I don't know why Prince always finds the worst singers for projects. Vanity is ok, she definitely had charisma and the chemistry was right for Prince at the time. She is lucky she had Brenda & Susan backing her up, but even they couldn't save Appollonia. The Time is great, it's all about the attitude. Ingrid Chavez solo stuff is not bad, and I do like her Paisley Park album but generally keep that private lol. Carmen turned out to be just awful, I just remember how he hyped her on the Sexy MF video and then the deep embarrasment when listening to her album. That goes double for any other "rap" protege. Rosie is a great singer, but sadly the chemistry never came together. Bria is hard to listen to, and I have tried. Mayte is ok, but she needed Brenda & Susan. Sheila has that chemistry with him, and a stellar musician. I guess overall the prot eges give him a chance to put out music he couldn't sing himself, ie. Girlsongs.

You think Vanity is an ok singer and Paul is a "worst singer"? i guess it's all about what your ear hear....or what you are looking at ...cause that's about all Vanity had except fun songs. Frankly I think Paul is a better overall singer than Prince. Prince can be good in his high range and I LOVE his harmony structures, but I can tell you if the two were given standards to sing my bets would be on Paul. I still listen to Prince more, but on pure vocal ability I can't see paople dissing Paul's voice. Not likeing the qualty of it is a completetrly different story.

Zannaloaf said:

kenkamken said:

I'm not fond of Paul's reedy voice. I don't know why Prince always finds the worst singers for projects. Vanity is ok, she definitely had charisma and the chemistry was right for Prince at the time. She is lucky she had Brenda & Susan backing her up, but even they couldn't save Appollonia. The Time is great, it's all about the attitude. Ingrid Chavez solo stuff is not bad, and I do like her Paisley Park album but generally keep that private lol. Carmen turned out to be just awful, I just remember how he hyped her on the Sexy MF video and then the deep embarrasment when listening to her album. That goes double for any other "rap" protege. Rosie is a great singer, but sadly the chemistry never came together. Bria is hard to listen to, and I have tried. Mayte is ok, but she needed Brenda & Susan. Sheila has that chemistry with him, and a stellar musician. I guess overall the prot eges give him a chance to put out music he couldn't sing himself, ie. Girlsongs.

You think Vanity is an ok singer and Paul is a "worst singer"? i guess it's all about what your ear hear....or what you are looking at ...cause that's about all Vanity had except fun songs. Frankly I think Paul is a better overall singer than Prince. Prince can be good in his high range and I LOVE his harmony structures, but I can tell you if the two were given standards to sing my bets would be on Paul. I still listen to Prince more, but on pure vocal ability I can't see paople dissing Paul's voice. Not likeing the qualty of it is a completetrly different story.

Yeah I don't know what people are judging Pauls voice by

Because he doesn't have a weak voice and definately is a good singer

It's just a subjective thing, but his singing just doesn't do it for me. I do like Susannah, she's Wendy's vocal twin for sure. I wish she had some solo records...

babynoz said:

I love The Time, Rosie Gaines and Tamar...I can do without all the rest.

Totally agree!

babynoz said:

I love The Time, Rosie Gaines and Tamar...I can do without all the rest.

No Sheila E?

No Nasty Girls?

robin power

How about FANS we can do with out

I could do without any of them.. I like a few songs, but for the most part, the associated artist releases don't interest me much.

CrabalockerFishwife said:

I could do without any of them.. I like a few songs, but for the most part, the associated artist releases don't interest me much.

then why are you in this forum?

Zannaloaf said:

CrabalockerFishwife said:

I could do without any of them.. I like a few songs, but for the most part, the associated artist releases don't interest me much.

then why are you in this forum?

Boredom. I check all of the forums.

I do like The Time & Sheila E.'s hits (Jungle Love, The Glamorous Life, A Love Bizzarre, etc..), and I liked a song or two on Bria's album. I'm interested to hear Andy's album, but I don't really have high expectations for it.

I like it better when Prince works with established artists, like Chaka Khan, Larry Graham, etc..

missfee said:

Cat (her rapping was so horrendous that I'd rather listen to Tony M.)

Carmen Electra, Apples, Vanity, TC, Ingrid Chavez, and The Family..

I especially can't stand Vanity. She's about as hypocritical as Prince nowadays...

Paul Peterson is not that bad of a singer. He put out an album in 1987 that had a song on there called Intimacy. That song was the bomb. The rest of the album was not that great. He does have a very "raspy" delivery, but on "Intimacy" he is singing in the mid range of his voice. Not like Screams of Passion where he is screaming the vocals. Listen to Desire on the The Family's first album. He did a ok job signing that song.

mystere38 said:

Paul Peterson is not that bad of a singer. He put out an album in 1987 that had a song on there called Intimacy. That song was the bomb. The rest of the album was not that great. He does have a very "raspy" delivery, but on "Intimacy" he is singing in the mid range of his voice. Not like Screams of Passion where he is screaming the vocals. Listen to Desire on the The Family's first album. He did a ok job signing that song.

If you heard him on the new album or live its pretty clear he can sing without being raspy. I actually like it better when he's not trying to do the "Family" vocal style.

The only ones I've ever liked are Morris, Sheila, Cat, Jill, Ingrid, and Tamar. That's it. I don't consider Rosie Gaines a protege, and I wanted to like Robin Power, but her style was too overly vulgar to me. All the rest were/are ludicrously wack.

Tony M

Ingrid Chavez

Bria Valente

Appolonia

Elisa what ever her name is

TC Ellis

Tony M

Jerome

Tamar

Geneva

Tony M

Greg Brooks

Wally Safford

Tony M

Robin Power

Diamond and Pearls

The Mojicas

Manuela Testa rossa or whatever her name is

Paul Petersen

Tony M

Damon Dickson

Kirk B

Levi Seacer Jnr

Mayte Garcia

Tony M

Carmen the Boobs electra

Taja Sevelle

Tony M

Larry Graham

Any other bimbo with big boobs and a bizarre unpronounceable Italo, Spanish name wearing a mini skirt and having a micro talent

and Tony M

[Edited 4/1/12 16:31pm]

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

Carmen Electra, Apples, Vanity, TC, Ingrid Chavez, and The Family..

I especially can't stand Vanity. She's about as hypocritical as Prince nowadays...

what makes Vanity hypocritical?

those Bolded are not proteges

Adorecream said:

Tony M

Ingrid Chavez

Bria Valente

Appolonia

Elisa what ever her name is

TC Ellis

Tony M

Jerome

Tamar

Geneva

Tony M

Greg Brooks

Wally Safford

Tony M

Robin Power

Diamond and Pearls

The Mojicas

Manuela Testa rossa or whatever her name is

Paul Petersen

Tony M

Damon Dickson

Kirk B

Levi Seacer Jnr

Mayte Garcia

Tony M

Carmen the Boobs electra

Taja Sevelle

Tony M

Larry Graham

Any other bimbo with big boobs and a bizarre unpronounceable Italo, Spanish name wearing a mini skirt and having a micro talent

and Tony M

OldFriends4Sale said:

those Bolded are not proteges

Adorecream said:

Tony M

Ingrid Chavez

Bria Valente

Appolonia

Elisa what ever her name is (Was in Graffitit Bridge, Jellybean produced a single for her)

TC Ellis

Tony M

Jerome

Tamar (Sang with Prince on 3121, was supposed to have had an album made by Prince)

Geneva (Sang with Prince and danced for him around 2001)

Tony M

Greg Brooks (Dancer in Family and Revolution 1985 -87) also a bodyguard at some stage

Wally Safford (As above, he was the fat one)

Tony M

Robin Power

Diamond and Pearls (Robin La Morte and her sister danced on the Diamonds and Pearls videos tour in 1991/92, although musical collaboration ends there)

The Mojicas

Manuela Testa rossa or whatever her name is

Paul Petersen

Tony M

Damon Dickson

Kirk B (One of the Game Boyz, in the NPG bewteen 1990 and 1994 at least, his rapping can be heard on Gold Nigga)

Levi Seacer Jnr (Sheila E's and then Prince's bassist, became No2 in group in 1993 and then CEO of Paisley Park for stint)

Mayte Garcia (Princes wife and muse in the 1992 -1999 period) she made an album to please Prince in 1995 and danced on the Act I and II tours and at least up to Love4another period)

Tony M

Carmen the Boobs electra

Taja Sevelle

Tony M

Larry Graham

Any other bimbo with big boobs and a bizarre unpronounceable Italo, Spanish name wearing a mini skirt and having a micro talent

and Tony M

You are wrong, as you can see all were part of Prince's empire, the only clanger in the list were Arlene and Erlene Mojica who were sisters who were body builders and companions for Mayte in the 90s, they got sacked in 1997 after they blabbed about Baby Gregory to the press.

They are, because all of them have worked for Prince and Prince has managed or been in charge of them at some point, to me that counts as "Career enhancement" and therefor none of them are equals or superior to Prince in sheer musical or management chops (Ok possibly Larry, but he has been on Prince's pay roll for several years)

Adorecream said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

those Bolded are not proteges

Tony M

Ingrid Chavez

Bria Valente

Appolonia

Elisa what ever her name is (Was in Graffitit Bridge, Jellybean produced a single for her)

TC Ellis

Tony M

Jerome

Tamar (Sang with Prince on 3121, was supposed to have had an album made by Prince)

Geneva (Sang with Prince and danced for him around 2001)

Tony M

Greg Brooks (Dancer in Family and Revolution 1985 -87) also a bodyguard at some stage

Wally Safford (As above, he was the fat one)

Tony M

Robin Power

Diamond and Pearls (Robin La Morte and her sister danced on the Diamonds and Pearls videos tour in 1991/92, although musical collaboration ends there)

The Mojicas

Manuela Testa rossa or whatever her name is

Paul Petersen

Tony M

Damon Dickson

Kirk B (One of the Game Boyz, in the NPG bewteen 1990 and 1994 at least, his rapping can be heard on Gold Nigga)

Levi Seacer Jnr (Sheila E's and then Prince's bassist, became No2 in group in 1993 and then CEO of Paisley Park for stint)

Mayte Garcia (Princes wife and muse in the 1992 -1999 period) she made an album to please Prince in 1995 and danced on the Act I and II tours and at least up to Love4another period)

Tony M

Carmen the Boobs electra

Taja Sevelle

Tony M

Larry Graham

Any other bimbo with big boobs and a bizarre unpronounceable Italo, Spanish name wearing a mini skirt and having a micro talent

and Tony M

You are wrong, as you can see all were part of Prince's empire, the only clanger in the list were Arlene and Erlene Mojica who were sisters who were body builders and companions for Mayte in the 90s, they got sacked in 1997 after they blabbed about Baby Gregory to the press.

They are, because all of them have worked for Prince and Prince has managed or been in charge of them at some point, to me that counts as "Career enhancement" and therefor none of them are equals or superior to Prince in sheer musical or management chops (Ok possibly Larry, but he has been on Prince's pay roll for several years)

Band members are not considered proteges. they are his band. His band members(dancers) name is never pushed, the way the protege is the protege is an extension put out front.

And anyone in his camp that no longer worked for him is not a protege

already established artists are ie Chaka Khan Larry Graham are not proteges

Proteges are those who Prince established with an identity that mirrors him

Rick James had proteges: Tina Marie, the Mary Jane Girls, Eddie Murphy

Prince proteges are: the Time, Vanity 6, Jill Jones, Sheila E. the Family, Mazarati

Carmen Electra and 1 or 2 others.

[Edited 4/5/12 11:46am]

missfee said:

Who could I do without? Let me see...

Carmen Electra

Cat (her rapping was so horrendous that I'd rather listen to Tony M.)

Carmen Electra

Robin Power (again see my comment regarding Cat, this applies to this chick too)

Carmen Electra

Tony M.

Carmen Electra

Appolonia (as beautiful and as lovely as she seems to be, what else did she do of any significance but just fill in for Vanity?)

Carmen Electra

That's all I can think of for now.

[Edited 3/25/12 17:09pm]

But Apples has the puppies!

kenkamken said:

I'm not fond of Paul's reedy voice. I don't know why Prince always finds the worst singers for projects. Vanity is ok, she definitely had charisma and the chemistry was right for Prince at the time. She is lucky she had Brenda & Susan backing her up, but even they couldn't save Appollonia. The Time is great, it's all about the attitude. Ingrid Chavez solo stuff is not bad, and I do like her Paisley Park album but generally keep that private lol. Carmen turned out to be just awful, I just remember how he hyped her on the Sexy MF video and then the deep embarrasment when listening to her album. That goes double for any other "rap" protege. Rosie is a great singer, but sadly the chemistry never came together. Bria is hard to listen to, and I have tried. Mayte is ok, but she needed Brenda & Susan. Sheila has that chemistry with him, and a stellar musician. I guess overall the prot eges give him a chance to put out music he couldn't sing himself, ie. Girlsongs.

I thought that was actress(biracial) Troy Beyer in the Sexy MF video

What the hell is wrong with you people. Not liking The Family? Go listen to Mutiny again, then High Fashion. Those tracks are amazing.

Weirdos!

OldFriends4Sale said:

kenkamken said:

I'm not fond of Paul's reedy voice. I don't know why Prince always finds the worst singers for projects. Vanity is ok, she definitely had charisma and the chemistry was right for Prince at the time. She is lucky she had Brenda & Susan backing her up, but even they couldn't save Appollonia. The Time is great, it's all about the attitude. Ingrid Chavez solo stuff is not bad, and I do like her Paisley Park album but generally keep that private lol. Carmen turned out to be just awful, I just remember how he hyped her on the Sexy MF video and then the deep embarrasment when listening to her album. That goes double for any other "rap" protege. Rosie is a great singer, but sadly the chemistry never came together. Bria is hard to listen to, and I have tried. Mayte is ok, but she needed Brenda & Susan. Sheila has that chemistry with him, and a stellar musician. I guess overall the prot eges give him a chance to put out music he couldn't sing himself, ie. Girlsongs.

I thought that was actress(biracial) Troy Beyer in the Sexy MF video

I think they are referring to the promo for Carmen, following the Sexy MF video on the official release, ie....she is the scariest female on the planet!

TheDigitalGardener said:

Re The Family, I think it's a wonderful album, the only thing that nips my nipples is Paul Petersons piss weak vocals, but even they are not enough to make me dislike the songs.

Whoa, you seriously think Paul can't sing?

I think too that you approach the Time from the wrong mindset and take their presentation too seriously. They're a party band and they ham it up and put on an act when they hit the stage - the whole point of the Morris persona is to get up there and be was bawdy zany campy and goofy as possible.

It's kinda like how you have to suspend disbelief a lot of times when you watch movies otherwise you'll be sittng there making the Who Farted face during 90 percent of all the movies you watch.

Dren5 said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

Re The Family, I think it's a wonderful album, the only thing that nips my nipples is Paul Petersons piss weak vocals, but even they are not enough to make me dislike the songs.

Whoa, you seriously think Paul can't sing?

I think too that you approach the Time from the wrong mindset and take their presentation too seriously. They're a party band and they ham it up and put on an act when they hit the stage - the whole point of the Morris persona is to get up there and be was bawdy zany campy and goofy as possible.

It's kinda like how you have to suspend disbelief a lot of times when you watch movies otherwise you'll be sittng there making the Who Farted face during 90 percent of all the movies you watch.

Yeah I don't know who people are comparing St Pauls vocals to, but the man can sing