funksterr said:

runawayslave said:

Pandemomium is the weakest Time album - hands down. And it is the one which they tried to have everyone contribute to because Jesse, Jimmy and Terry and Morris had all made their mark outside the group.

For me, the Time formula is the original lineup - which includes Prince writing and producing and performing. It is the formula which might return the Time to the astronomical heights of "Cool", What Time Is It?, and Ice Cream Castle.

Go back and listen to Its About Time - it is amazing because it is a dreadful live album of one of the best live acts on the planet. And those studio cuts are just plain embarrassing. Prince would have at least had better material for that part.

I will get whatever comes in October as I have been devoted since I met the group and saw them open on the Controversy Tour in 1982. I just hope they do it right this time. They are getting long in the tooth now. Everyone cant defy time like Prince has.

Pandemonium had a big impact on r&b and pop radio at the time it was out. In fact, I'm hard pressed to think of ANY Prince album since SOTT that got that had that many songs get that much airplay. The album ended up being a victim of the Graffitti Bridge flop and The Time's internal squabbles. There is probably too many songs on the record, but in the cd era you can say that about most projects.

"It's About Time" is kick-azz. The live tracks are very good, maybe not the best mix, or the best sequencing, but they are well performed and not nearly as bad as Prince's "21 Nights" cd. I have no idea why you called them dreadful. It's The studio tracks try to be too new school for me, so I don't like them that much. But Charlie Wilson has made a new career for himself using that approach so I don't see how Morris could get a deal for a record without someone insisting that he try it too. I ain't mad at him.

And for that nasty crack you made at the end of your post. How come Prince CAN"T GET A RECORD DEAL??????????????????? He's gone hat in hand to EVERY label even WB and come up with NADA. Prince has his troubles too.

crack kiills lol

safetypin said:

funksterr said:

Prince is an 80's nostalgia act. To the majority of people Diamonds and pearls was his last album. Only FAMS argue otherwise. Prince does want a record deal he just can't get the money he wants out the situation. The last I heard hewas giving tracks away on Facebook lol. Morris Day and The Time is really just Morris Day's solo career by a different name. There is no way MD wanted the curse words edited from those tracks so my guess is that Prince insisted on it.

diamond and pearls was prince's last decent studio album. nothing he has released in the past 20 years comes close to dirty mind, controversy, 1999, purple rain, around the world in a day, parade, sign o' the times, lovesexy (basically the majority of recordings made between 1978 & 1991).

prince has hardly tested his audience since 1991 - no bitches brew or brilliant corners amongst the planet earths, emancipations and musicology. why be miles davis when you can be liberace or tom jones?

as for the touring cabaret act 'morris day and the time' my earlier reply on this thread pretty much sums up my thoughts...but i will add this - given the choice between watching morris et al sleepwalk their way through jungle love, the bird etc or a night in a covert military facility being subjected to white noise...i'll take the latter.

holding something together that is falling apart

Yeah right. You just proved to me you don't know what you are talking about. Sleepwalk?? Morris Day is in PEAK condition these days. I've seen about 20 shows or so over the last 15 years and Morris is more active onstage now than ever before. It's easy to take shots at a band you haven't experienced live. I can understand how intellectually one might assume they are on solid ground by saying a band with replacement members that plays basicaly the same setlist for over decade are on auto-pilot, but that's not the case with MD/Bean/Freeze/Tori. They turn that sht out.

so many absolutely retarded statements made in this thread...

funksterr said:

safetypin said:

diamond and pearls was prince's last decent studio album. nothing he has released in the past 20 years comes close to dirty mind, controversy, 1999, purple rain, around the world in a day, parade, sign o' the times, lovesexy (basically the majority of recordings made between 1978 & 1991).

prince has hardly tested his audience since 1991 - no bitches brew or brilliant corners amongst the planet earths, emancipations and musicology. why be miles davis when you can be liberace or tom jones?

as for the touring cabaret act 'morris day and the time' my earlier reply on this thread pretty much sums up my thoughts...but i will add this - given the choice between watching morris et al sleepwalk their way through jungle love, the bird etc or a night in a covert military facility being subjected to white noise...i'll take the latter.

holding something together that is falling apart

Yeah right. You just proved to me you don't know what you are talking about. Sleepwalk?? Morris Day is in PEAK condition these days. I've seen about 20 shows or so over the last 15 years and Morris is more active onstage now than ever before. It's easy to take shots at a band you haven't experienced live. I can understand how intellectually one might assume they are on solid ground by saying a band with replacement members that plays basicaly the same setlist for over decade are on auto-pilot, but that's not the case with MD/Bean/Freeze/Tori. They turn that sht out.

funksterr said:

safetypin said:

diamond and pearls was prince's last decent studio album. nothing he has released in the past 20 years comes close to dirty mind, controversy, 1999, purple rain, around the world in a day, parade, sign o' the times, lovesexy (basically the majority of recordings made between 1978 & 1991).

prince has hardly tested his audience since 1991 - no bitches brew or brilliant corners amongst the planet earths, emancipations and musicology. why be miles davis when you can be liberace or tom jones?

as for the touring cabaret act 'morris day and the time' my earlier reply on this thread pretty much sums up my thoughts...but i will add this - given the choice between watching morris et al sleepwalk their way through jungle love, the bird etc or a night in a covert military facility being subjected to white noise...i'll take the latter.

holding something together that is falling apart

Yeah right. You just proved to me you don't know what you are talking about. Sleepwalk?? Morris Day is in PEAK condition these days. I've seen about 20 shows or so over the last 15 years and Morris is more active onstage now than ever before. It's easy to take shots at a band you haven't experienced live. I can understand how intellectually one might assume they are on solid ground by saying a band with replacement members that plays basicaly the same setlist for over decade are on auto-pilot, but that's not the case with MD/Bean/Freeze/Tori. They turn that sht out.

"it's easy to take shots at a band you haven't experienced live"....? funny how you can make such a statement when you don't even know me. to put you in your place i have been to the following Morris Day / THE TIME concerts -

April 1988 - Morris Day solo concert at the Hammersmith Odeon, London

Sept 1990 - Hammersmith Odeon, London - featuring the original line up - I was also at Subterranea in Ladbroke Grove the night before for their warm up gig

1996 Berlin - Morris / Jerome / Jellybean / Monti / Tori / Freeze & and another chap on keyboards whose name escapes me

1999 Las Vegas - w/ appearances by Prince & Terry Lewis

In addition I pretty much own a copy of all bootlegs (audio & visual) of THE TIME, Morris Day & Jesse Johnson from 1981 through to 2005 - including performances on Soul Train & American Bandstand.

I'm not disputing that the touring line up are seasoned performers - but creatively they are paralyzed. Morris has not released a studio album for nearly 20 years. To give that a little more perspective Charlie Wilson (enjoyed similar levels of success to Morris in the 80s) has recorded and released 5 solo albums during that time, despite his struggles with drink & drug addiction.

For me THE TIME peaked in the 80s and enjoyed an Indian Summer in 1990. Nothing I have witnessed live or recorded since that time has changed my mind. However I hope the new album proves me wrong....

holding something together that is falling apart

New Album & Website from

http://www.theoriginaltimeband.com/

Fall 2011

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funksterr said:

safetypin said:

diamond and pearls was prince's last decent studio album. nothing he has released in the past 20 years comes close to dirty mind, controversy, 1999, purple rain, around the world in a day, parade, sign o' the times, lovesexy (basically the majority of recordings made between 1978 & 1991).

prince has hardly tested his audience since 1991 - no bitches brew or brilliant corners amongst the planet earths, emancipations and musicology. why be miles davis when you can be liberace or tom jones?

as for the touring cabaret act 'morris day and the time' my earlier reply on this thread pretty much sums up my thoughts...but i will add this - given the choice between watching morris et al sleepwalk their way through jungle love, the bird etc or a night in a covert military facility being subjected to white noise...i'll take the latter.

holding something together that is falling apart

Yeah right. You just proved to me you don't know what you are talking about. Sleepwalk?? Morris Day is in PEAK condition these days. I've seen about 20 shows or so over the last 15 years and Morris is more active onstage now than ever before. It's easy to take shots at a band you haven't experienced live. I can understand how intellectually one might assume they are on solid ground by saying a band with replacement members that plays basicaly the same setlist for over decade are on auto-pilot, but that's not the case with MD/Bean/Freeze/Tori. They turn that sht out.

I just saw them the other night and thought they were ok, but not as much fun as before. Luckily my 9th row ticket was on sale for only $20 or I wouldn't have thought I got my money's worth if it the reg $43 price. The guy doing Jerome's part just doesn't have the personality, energy or chemistry with Morris & the band. Morris was 'condensating' (his word) his ass off. At one point (rotating stage in the round), I had a profile view of him & could see a drip hanging from his nose and it was making me nuts. I was like 'at least wipe it off Morris, it's ok!' It was weird, cuz it hung there for a little bit glistening in the spotlight!

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It's seems clear now that the new album will be out this Fall & i guess that it will be release under the name "the Original Time Band!

New teasing:

http://www.theoriginaltimeband.com/

http://www.facebook.com/TheOriginalTimeBand

love2thenines2003 said:

It's seems clear now that the new album will be out this Fall & i guess that it will be release under the name "the Original Time Band!

New teasing:

http://www.theoriginaltimeband.com/

http://www.facebook.com/TheOriginalTimeBand

It is about damn...........T.I.M.E.

love2thenines2003 said:

It's seems clear now that the new album will be out this Fall & i guess that it will be release under the name "the Original Time Band!

New teasing:

http://www.facebook.com/T...alTimeBand

http://www.theoriginaltimeband.com/

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funksterr said:

Prince is an 80's nostalgia act.

Just out of curiosity......why are u HERE on this site?

This should be interesting, esp. of they are willing to do a full-scale tour of 30-40 cities or so.

Graycap23 said:

love2thenines2003 said:

It's seems clear now that the new album will be out this Fall & i guess that it will be release under the name "the Original Time Band!

New teasing:

http://www.theoriginaltimeband.com/

http://www.facebook.com/TheOriginalTimeBand

It is about damn...........T.I.M.E.

I sure hope the new album comes out this year. Add that to Wendy & Lisa's Snapshots and FDeluxe's Gaslight, 2011 will end up being a GREAT year for music!

i dont think any of the people that goes to prince concerts come on this site cuz all i hear is love 4 prince from every show i ever attended not the evil bashes that comes on here.u can call him a 80's artist or whatever u want but he packs the house in every city i ever seen him in.

i think its sad how people get on here and just bash and talk shit about prince and related artist

Graycap23 said:

funksterr said:

Prince is an 80's nostalgia act.

Just out of curiosity......why are u HERE on this site?

Graycap23 said:

funksterr said:

Prince is an 80's nostalgia act.

Just out of curiosity......why are u HERE on this site?

Soooo....you're saying he's not?

Hmmm. Let's put him on the bill with Katy Perry, Ke$ha and Lil Wayne and see how that would go, shall we?

Dude has had one of the greatest runs in pop music and we all love him but let's keep it real. This ain't 1986. There's no need to "Emperors New Clothes" dude.

BlaqueKnight said:

Graycap23 said:

Just out of curiosity......why are u HERE on this site?

Soooo....you're saying he's not?

Hmmm. Let's put him on the bill with Katy Perry, Ke$ha and Lil Wayne and see how that would go, shall we?

Dude has had one of the greatest runs in pop music and we all love him but let's keep it real. This ain't 1986. There's no need to "Emperors New Clothes" dude.

Exactly. And especially if if the huge majority of his usual setlist consists of stuff from the 80s. He's getting people to turn out based on nostalgia and nostalgia ALONE!!!!

It is what it is. Earth Wind & Fire is a 70s/80s nostalgia act, too and their latest original album release was back in 2005. Oh well. Prince is old, and ain't doin' shit new, so hell yeah, he's nostalgia. *shrug*

cbarnes3121 said:

i dont think any of the people that goes to prince concerts come on this site cuz all i hear is love 4 prince from every show i ever attended not the evil bashes that comes on here.u can call him a 80's artist or whatever u want but he packs the house in every city i ever seen him in.

i think its sad how people get on here and just bash and talk shit about prince and related artist

did you see in person prince's 1999, purple rain, parade, sign of the times or lovesexy tours? if you did you will know comparing his recent concerts to them is liking comparing lemonade to champagne.

i grew up listening and going to see prince and still love everything he released upto lovesexy (...maybe upto diamonds and pearls at a push). so i don't need some MF like you making sweeping statements because i and no doubt quite a lot of other people don't dig his 20Ten album and tom jones / las vegas style live performances.

check yourself

BlaqueKnight said:

Graycap23 said:

Just out of curiosity......why are u HERE on this site?

Soooo....you're saying he's not?

Hmmm. Let's put him on the bill with Katy Perry, Ke$ha and Lil Wayne and see how that would go, shall we?

Dude has had one of the greatest runs in pop music and we all love him but let's keep it real. This ain't 1986. There's no need to "Emperors New Clothes" dude.

I'll try and keep it simple. Prince plays what his audience wants 2 hear. He is quite capable of playing only new material..........but that is not what the consumer is demanding.Are u suggestting that Prince and his band are not capable of playing his new material? Surely u are NOT saying that.

I'd love 2 see Prince on the bill with those lame ass acts u justed named. It would be sad and funny at the same time. Those folks would get themselves schooled in more ways than one but at the end of the day, they have their fan base and Prince has his. They are NOT the same fan base. U guys seem 2 over complicate simple things. Prince knows that when he plays these non club gigs, they want 2 hear Purple Rain again..............and again.

Prince is simply maximizing his revenue right now.

Can't get any more simple than that.

......now let's get back 2 my question: Just out of curiosity......why are u HERE on this site?

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safetypin said:

cbarnes3121 said:

i dont think any of the people that goes to prince concerts come on this site cuz all i hear is love 4 prince from every show i ever attended not the evil bashes that comes on here.u can call him a 80's artist or whatever u want but he packs the house in every city i ever seen him in.

i think its sad how people get on here and just bash and talk shit about prince and related artist

did you see in person prince's 1999, purple rain, parade, sign of the times or lovesexy tours? if you did you will know comparing his recent concerts to them is liking comparing lemonade to champagne.

i grew up listening and going to see prince and still love everything he released upto lovesexy (...maybe upto diamonds and pearls at a push). so i don't need some MF like you making sweeping statements because i and no doubt quite a lot of other people don't dig his 20Ten album and tom jones / las vegas style live performances.

check yourself

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

alexnvrmnd777 said:

safetypin said:

did you see in person prince's 1999, purple rain, parade, sign of the times or lovesexy tours? if you did you will know comparing his recent concerts to them is liking comparing lemonade to champagne.

i grew up listening and going to see prince and still love everything he released upto lovesexy (...maybe upto diamonds and pearls at a push). so i don't need some MF like you making sweeping statements because i and no doubt quite a lot of other people don't dig his 20Ten album and tom jones / las vegas style live performances.

check yourself

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Am I the only one who's fed up of the endless Facebook updates from The Time with FUCK ALL TO SAY?

BlaqueKnight said:

Graycap23 said:

Just out of curiosity......why are u HERE on this site?

Soooo....you're saying he's not?

Hmmm. Let's put him on the bill with Katy Perry, Ke$ha and Lil Wayne and see how that would go, shall we?

Dude has had one of the greatest runs in pop music and we all love him but let's keep it real. This ain't 1986. There's no need to "Emperors New Clothes" dude.

How many "old" acts have released new cd's almost every year since the 1980's that are currently touring?

BlaqueKnight said:

Graycap23 said:

Just out of curiosity......why are u HERE on this site?

Soooo....you're saying he's not?

Hmmm. Let's put him on the bill with Katy Perry, Ke$ha and Lil Wayne and see how that would go, shall we?

Coachella worked fine. yeah they had McCartney too. But I think if he was given a middle slot not just an ending slot of lets say lallapalooza, he'd be just as much a hit with the younguns'.

And yes he is still a nostalgia act but not exactly like an Al Green or EWF. Prince has been vivrant in stage and with his material he still created after his 80's heyday much more than a EWF or Berlin, Guns, Stones etc. He is actually up there with U2 in being relevant live. Although U2 are more confident with their current music being played ..a LOT. But because they are the hugest rock n roll band out there, they can do that still.

Graycap23 said:

BlaqueKnight said:

Soooo....you're saying he's not?

Hmmm. Let's put him on the bill with Katy Perry, Ke$ha and Lil Wayne and see how that would go, shall we?

Dude has had one of the greatest runs in pop music and we all love him but let's keep it real. This ain't 1986. There's no need to "Emperors New Clothes" dude.

I'll try and keep it simple. Prince plays what his audience wants 2 hear. He is quite capable of playing only new material..........but that is not what the consumer is demanding.

Yeah, I agree with that. He could play all new material but there is no mainstream base interest in it. His gigs would be a LOT smaller if people knew he was only going to play songs like "Walk In The Sand" and "Future Baby Mama"

Realistically, the kids ain't tryin' to hear Prince like that. Some appreciate the quality of music but everything is on a different vibe these days. Every generation has their favorites and while Prince is ours, the 19 year olds of today ain't checkin' for his old ass.

Yes, he's still making music but he's not garnering any mainstream interest because he already had his time. I know the org would like to see him "back on top" once again but he's already been there and his time has past. No matter how much more talented you may be than the younger generation, they like what they like and that's that. They like that corny shit they listen to because its what they relate to.

Graycap23 said:

BlaqueKnight said:

Soooo....you're saying he's not?

Hmmm. Let's put him on the bill with Katy Perry, Ke$ha and Lil Wayne and see how that would go, shall we?

Dude has had one of the greatest runs in pop music and we all love him but let's keep it real. This ain't 1986. There's no need to "Emperors New Clothes" dude.

How many "old" acts have released new cd's almost every year since the 1980's that are currently touring?

SoulAlive said:

The Original Time Band

You've all waited over 20 years for a new album, needless to say we are building up to the event you've all been waiting for. Your loyalty and love for us will be soon rewarded!

This project is making me feel like a kid waiting 4 Xmas "Time". Getting really excited about this new project. With all of the magnificent 7 2gether. It is going 2 b FIRE!. THEY R UNTOUCHABLE BY ANY BAND LIVE....& I MEAN ANY..

SoulAlive said:

The Original Time Band

You've all waited over 20 years for a new album, needless to say we are building up to the event you've all been waiting for. Your loyalty and love for us will be soon rewarded!