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Thread started 05/10/11 5:30pm

jbrown83

Kim Basinger's unreleased album

Hi all, today i found a link to this album, I listened to it and its ok, typical 80's pop, but I was wondering how big a part did Prince have makiing this album, if any, and why it was shelved. Thanks in advance guys! smile

Hey baby! Don't get me in here actin' silly now! You're not taping this are you... ????
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Reply #1 posted 05/10/11 5:32pm

Spinlight

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He didn't do it.

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Reply #2 posted 05/10/11 5:34pm

jbrown83

aha! thank you! I figured as much biggrin .

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Reply #3 posted 05/10/11 5:50pm

SoulAlive

That album is hilarious biggrin Kim Basinger trying to do New Jack Swing falloff

thank God that Prince didn't have anything to do with this garbage.

"The Color Of Sex" by Kim Basinger (1989)

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Reply #4 posted 05/11/11 5:22am

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Not true Spinlight ... Prince did have involvement, the working title was 'Hollywood Affair' and you can clearly hear his vocals on Color of Sex.

[Edited 5/11/11 5:22am]

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Reply #5 posted 05/11/11 5:32am

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TheFreakerFantastic said:

Not true Spinlight ... Prince did have involvement, the working title was 'Hollywood Affair' and you can clearly hear his vocals on Color of Sex.


That's not true.Prince had nothing to do with this horrible project.

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Reply #6 posted 05/11/11 5:36am

SoulAlive

bootleg copies of this CD surfaced,featuring a 'Batman'-era photo of Prince on the cover with Kim.That's why people assume that he was involved,but he wasn't.

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Reply #7 posted 05/11/11 5:44am

SoulAlive

here's a "review" of the album by a critic who,like many people,thinks that Prince was involved wink

Rob Smith Can’t Say No: Kim Basinger, “Hollywood Affair”

Unlike a number of my friends and colleagues, I have not gone koo-koo for the new Prince record, 20Ten. Yes, it sounds like old-school Prince, and were this 1988, I’d probably be all over it. However, I’ve been worn down by years of “comeback” records that did nothing for me; I really haven’t been moved by new Prince music since Emancipation in ’96.

Before you accuse me of being an anti-Nelsonite, though, let me tell you, I’ve tried. I bought damn near everything available through normal retail means through Musicology (2004), and have listened to just about every blurt and fart emanating from Paisley Park since then, albeit without committing more hard-earned to the purple coffers. I was a fan, tried and true (I still think Sign O’ the Times is one of the great albums made in my lifetime), but I’ve been disappointed for too long to react with great anticipation for new Prince music.

Perhaps tellingly, I think it started to unravel around the time of the Batman soundtrack in ’89. It was the first album I’d heard of his since Controversy that I didn’t like the whole way through. It did have some excellent tracks—“The Future,” “Electric Chair,” and “Vicki Waiting” got mad spins on my CD player at the time—but they were laced in with some real deadwood, like “Scandalous,” a plodding, pseudo-sexy love jam that sounded more like a Prince parody than the work of the man himself.

To make things worse, Prince released a 12-inch extended mix of “Scandalous,” called “Scandalous Sex Suite” which, rumor had it, included the sounds of him and Batman star Kim Basinger (with whom he was sleeping at the time) actually getting it on in the studio. And though I detested the song, I bought the 12″ because, let’s face it, if I could own a recording of Kim Basinger fucking, it was my duty as a red-blooded teenage horndog to own it (this was, of course, before DVDs; I can now, if I want, own a copy of 9 ½ Weeks, and actually watch Kim Basinger fake-fucking Mickey Rourke. The moment, however, has sadly passed).

Turns out, not only was Basinger making sex noises on Prince singles in 1989—she actually made an entire album with him, something called Hollywood Affair. Thanks to Reader QQ (who, readers of this column will recall, gifted me with the Shaun Cassidy live record a few months back), I have been able to partake of this unreleased artifact, and it is everything one imagines it could be, and less.

What grabbed me at first listen was the excessive use of New Jack beats throughout the record—I know the record was made in 1989, at the height of the New Jack boom, but a lot of these tracks sound more like Bobby Brown outtakes than the Prince castoffs they truly are. For example, it’s hard to believe that something like “I Wanna” is a Prince track, so generic is its sound, down to the fake string synth samples. Better is “Show Me,” with its cool synth work, though the “fire/desire/inspire” lyrics fail to rise even to the lowest Prince standard. And Basinger raps on the track, as she does on several others on Hollywood Affair; rap is something Prince has never been particularly good at, and in the late Eighties and early Nineties, his forays were particularly dire.

Fans of Basinger’s sex noises on “Scandalous Sex Suite” have plenty to enjoy on this album. “Action Action” features them prominently, as does “Color of Sex,” which also features her giggling and rapping things like “I’ll be your slave” and “I like the way you make me feel.” “My Love Will Find U” has a nice, bassy bottom end and a threadbare but cool chorus, both wasted on Basinger, who talks a lot when she should be singing, and spends the breakdown on this little monologue: “My name is Kim. I said, ‘Kim.’ What’s your name? No, you. No, in back of you – yeah you. What’s your name? Really? That’s a nice name.” Then she giggles, makes a sex noise, and heads back to the threadbare chorus.

It ain’t all bad, though. “Love at First Sight” is a decent slow jam, on which Basinger sounds slinky, almost Madonna-like. The song sounds like it would have fit comfortably on Top 40 radio in ’89, next to something like Exposé’s “What You Don’t Know” or some such thing, until she gets to the sex noises and spoken-word portion of the song. “2 Naughty” features fucking cool guitar riffing and a skeletal rhythm track—there’s no hiding this as a superb, bare-bones Prince jam. In fact, you’d be forgiven for thinking this was Prince himself doing that female vocal thing he does from time to time. Even better is “Will U Stay with Me,” with its eerie, descending keyboard figure and reverbed vocal effect, which closely approximates a haunting tone. There is longing here, both described and personified—it’s actually pretty sexy, without any cooing or sex noises. There’s even a key change at the end.

Since the damn thing never saw an official release, I offer its tracks here, for the curious among you. But don’t say I didn’t warn you

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Reply #8 posted 05/11/11 9:23am

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He was involved listen to it u can hear his voice!!! What more proof do u need??The reviewer has said it himself too lol
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Reply #9 posted 05/11/11 3:56pm

SoulAlive

TheFreakerFantastic said:

He was involved listen to it u can hear his voice!!! What more proof do u need??

I suppose that's him repeating "come on!" over and over? lol

Do you seriously believe that Prince could be responsible for such a generic,run-of-the-mill,by-the-numbers New Jack swing album like this?? nuts

Prince had nothing to do with this project.If anyone has evidence to the contrary,please post it here.

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Reply #10 posted 05/11/11 6:32pm

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TheFreakerFantastic said:

Not true Spinlight ... Prince did have involvement, the working title was 'Hollywood Affair' and you can clearly hear his vocals on Color of Sex.

[Edited 5/11/11 5:22am]

No.

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Reply #11 posted 05/11/11 7:04pm

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SoulAlive said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

He was involved listen to it u can hear his voice!!! What more proof do u need??

I suppose that's him repeating "come on!" over and over? lol

Do you seriously believe that Prince could be responsible for such a generic,run-of-the-mill,by-the-numbers New Jack swing album like this?? nuts

Prince had nothing to do with this project.If anyone has evidence to the contrary,please post it here.

I doubt Prince was involved but he definitely produced his share of "generic, run-of-the-mill" shlock around this time (see: Good Question, TC Ellis, Carmen Electra)

A better vehicle for Ms. Basinger

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Reply #12 posted 05/11/11 10:24pm

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Whether he did or didn't (in this particular instance)...folk seriously think Prince has never/would never produce crap like this Color of Sex mess?? falloff

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Reply #13 posted 05/12/11 12:54am

SoulAlive

johnart said:

Whether he did or didn't (in this particular instance)...folk seriously think Prince has never/would never produce crap like this Color of Sex mess?? falloff

I get what you're saying lol but even on his 'bad' recordings from this period,there were still a few decent ideas.Hell,even the Carmen Elektra CD has a few good songs.On his productions,there's always something that *tells* you it's a Prince production.This Kim Basinger album doesn't sound the least bit like Prince,which is why I'm sure that he wasn't involved.It has a 'cheap' sound,too.

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Reply #14 posted 05/12/11 4:18am

SoulAlive

found a little blurb on Kim Basinger from a 1993 issue of Entertainment Weekly....

KIM BASINGER Life With Prince: Supposed paramour during Batman (1989); contributed spicy backup moanings to an extended mix of that soundtrack's ''Scandalous.'' Life After Prince: Recorded an album in 1991 that Giant Records chose not to release (sound familiar?); starred in flop 1992 films Cool World and Final Analysis.

hmmm So apparently,her album was recorded in 1991 (after her 1990 breakup with Prince) and was scheduled to be released on Giant Records but was cancelled (rightfully so,as it would have surely been an embarassing flop for her).

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Reply #15 posted 05/13/11 12:45am

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Sorry to disappoint u guys but the evidence is: 1) His vocals are on it...look at the song titles they practically scream Prince 2) Prince is capable of making bad as well as good music! 3) The reviwer that Soul Alive quoted proves it 4) what evidence do you have to say he wasn't involved? If prince had no involvement what the hell is his voice doing on it? Control freak as he is do u think he'd allow his voice to be used on an album he had no input in? Don't think so.
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Reply #16 posted 05/13/11 2:27am

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TheFreakerFantastic said:

Sorry to disappoint u guys but the evidence is: 1) His vocals are on it...look at the song titles they practically scream Prince 2) Prince is capable of making bad as well as good music! 3) The reviwer that Soul Alive quoted proves it 4) what evidence do you have to say he wasn't involved? If prince had no involvement what the hell is his voice doing on it? Control freak as he is do u think he'd allow his voice to be used on an album he had no input in? Don't think so.

nuts let's try this again.Keep up with me this time....

1) Where do you hear his vocals?! confuse I've listened to that "Color Of Sex" song,as well as other songs that are posted on Youtube.It doesn't sound like Prince to me.

2) Yes,Prince is capable of making bad music,but if you listen to alot of the music that he recorded during that period (1989-1991),he never really jumped on the New Jack swing bandwagon.Even Carmen Elektra's album features some real funk on it,played by the NPG.Kim's album was obviously produced by producers who specialized in that type of music (generic New Jack Swing).

3) Her album was recorded in 1991 and scheduled to be released on Giant Records.This was long after her breakup with Prince (which occured in January/February 1990).The fact that Giant Records was planning to release it (and not Paisley Park) is another clue that Prince wasn't involved.

4) When Prince and Kim broke up in early 1990,it was reportedly a bitter split.He was pissed when she decided to abandon the 'Graffiti Bridge' movie.We have heard stories about how Prince treats ex-girlfriends: when he's done with someone,he's truly done with them.Why would he produce an album for someone that he is no longer sleeping with? lol

5) Have you read the Uptown books written by Per Nilsen? 'The Vault'?? 'Turn It Up'? These books discuss Prince's studio recordings and there is absolutely NO mention of any sessions for Kim's album.

Prince wasn't involved in Kim's horrible album.Are we clear on that? wink

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Reply #17 posted 05/13/11 4:33am

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Prince had zero do do with this album.

His vocals are not on any of it, he had nothing to do with it.

At all.

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Reply #18 posted 05/13/11 5:10am

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Man, Kim sure was a piece of ass. Prince is my hero

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Reply #19 posted 05/13/11 9:05am

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We will have to agree to disagree on that. U can quite clearly hear Princes voice sampled saying 'Come on' n Color of Sex. judging by the sound I would date this as 1989...when they were dating. Just because they didn't plan to release it til 91 doesn't mean it wasn't recorded earlier...hell even jill jones album was released in 87 but mostly recorded many years earlier!!!

Think of all the other lOvers he has done albums with...are you thinking he wouldn't have done that with Kim? I mean after all those orgasm Sfx it is only fair lol
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Reply #20 posted 05/13/11 4:35pm

SoulAlive

nuts nuts forget it...believe what you want!! nuts nuts I'm done!

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Reply #21 posted 05/14/11 10:55am

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Are we sure about this?

I'm not digging up that old bootleg.

f*ck it.

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Reply #22 posted 05/14/11 11:32am

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why would Prince be on the cover if he wasn't involved!

Psyche!

It's a cool album, one of his better with another artist.
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Reply #23 posted 05/18/11 1:05pm

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It's been DOCUMENTED that Prince had nothing to do with it. Just check Princevault.com and look for it: it's not there. Prince's recording sessions from this era are extremely well researched and documented.

The review is an undocumented review, that's all. I can't remember which ones but I've read several reviews about side-projects where the author actually believe that the artists were responsible for the music when it was all Prince. And I'm talking about articles written in the 2000's, not in the 80's when we weren't sure about who did what. These things happen and in this case we have the opposite.

The picture of the CD is... just NOT the picture of the CD. It's just a picture that's been used for a BOOTLEG. Will u assume that a Parade Tour concert is from 1990 just because bootleggers put a Nude Tour era pic on the cover? This album is unreleased, we have no idea what the cover would have been if it had.

& I'll be damned if it's Prince saying "Come on" or anything else on Color Of Sex lol Still, I remember hearing people swear on their mother's grave that Prince was singing A Different Kinda Thing or Do Anything in the early 90's, when we now know he wasn't... Quit trippin', there's no Prince voice around here.

The thing is that Per Nielsen and others have searched about this album YEARS ago, and whoever was around Paisley Park at this time clearly told them that Prince had nothing to do with it. So until a serious researcher such as Madhouseman claims that Prince finally had something to do with it and submit data about it, we can consider as a fact that Prince has NOTHING to do with this.

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Reply #24 posted 05/18/11 1:15pm

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^^ Yup. smile

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Reply #25 posted 05/20/11 4:07pm

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TheFreakerFantastic said:

Not true Spinlight ... Prince did have involvement, the working title was 'Hollywood Affair' and you can clearly hear his vocals on Color of Sex.

[Edited 5/11/11 5:22am]

1. No he didn't

2. No it wasn't

3. No you can't

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Reply #26 posted 05/20/11 4:12pm

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databank said:

The picture of the CD is... just NOT the picture of the CD. It's just a picture that's been used for a BOOTLEG. Will u assume that a Parade Tour concert is from 1990 just because bootleggers put a Nude Tour era pic on the cover?

I have a pressed DVD bootleg of the Minneapolis Homecoming show from 1983 and the cover artwork is from the Nude Tour lol lol lol lol

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Reply #27 posted 05/20/11 5:18pm

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Sorry guys but you are really sheep in your thinking. Look at the evidence:

FOR PRINCE INVOLVEMENT

1) Princey sounding titles, notice they are mostly in Princebonics too.

2) Prince was dating Kim Basinger - pretty much ALL his other romances had an album or song as a result, think Jill Jones, Taja Sevelle, Vanity 6, Ingrid Chavez, Mayte, Bria, Tamar, Sheena Easton...in fact when has he not recorded an album with a lover. It's illogical to think he wouldn't have done the same with Kim.

3) You can hear his vocals on it - this is is pretty much irrefutable evidence. He would NEVER allow his vocals to be used on a project directed by someone else, come on we know what he's like about control.

4) Subject matter dealing with Sex....hmm who is the most sex obsessed songwriter....Prince or Madonna.

5) Kim on her own would have no musical knowledge to record her own album, she would have needed the help of an expert - Prince

6) Yes it may be sub-par but that doesn't disprove Prince's involvement. This could have been unreleased for a good reason - Prince felt it was sub-par. Not everything in his vault is going to be good now is it?

7) Prince is notoriously secretive and has many unknown side projects - this is likely to have been one of them, but shelved after the affair ended or again because he felt it was sub-par.

AGAINST PRINCE INVOLVEMENT

1) Per Nilsen / Other Biographers didn't mention his involvement.

Remember Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. They may not have felt it was relevant to mention as it was never released or perhaps they didn't have enough evidence to reference it due to Point 7 above.

You're gonna have to do better than that guys to convince me otherwise..

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Reply #28 posted 05/21/11 12:51am

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TheFreakerFantastic said:

Sorry guys but you are really sheep in your thinking. Look at the evidence:

There's no evidence.

FOR PRINCE INVOLVEMENT

1) Princey sounding titles, notice they are mostly in Princebonics too.

I can do an album with Princebonics any day, many other people did it since Prince and they're not Prince.

2) Prince was dating Kim Basinger - pretty much ALL his other romances had an album or song as a result, think Jill Jones, Taja Sevelle, Vanity 6, Ingrid Chavez, Mayte, Bria, Tamar, Sheena Easton...in fact when has he not recorded an album with a lover. It's illogical to think he wouldn't have done the same with Kim.

It's illogical to think that JUST because he dates a woman, any musical project of hers is with Prince. Besides, Prince didn't date all the women you mention above (as far as we know) and he dated a lot of others without having them record anything.

3) You can hear his vocals on it - this is is pretty much irrefutable evidence. He would NEVER allow his vocals to be used on a project directed by someone else, come on we know what he's like about control.

No offense but you should have your ears checked by a doctor: that's not Prince singing and it's REALLY obvious when you're deeply familiar with his voice. What can i say, dude: u hear something that's not there and u claim it's evidence. No one but you hears Prince singing here rolleyes

4) Subject matter dealing with Sex....hmm who is the most sex obsessed songwriter....Prince or Madonna.

Well, Avenue D. dealt a lot with sex, as well as Janet Jackson. Does it mean that Prince produced them as well?

5) Kim on her own would have no musical knowledge to record her own album, she would have needed the help of an expert - Prince

Yes, except that they'd broke up at this point, and there are loads of other musical experts on earth.

6) Yes it may be sub-par but that doesn't disprove Prince's involvement. This could have been unreleased for a good reason - Prince felt it was sub-par. Not everything in his vault is going to be good now is it?

Irrelevant: we never said the quality was a reason to think Prince wasn't involved.

7) Prince is notoriously secretive and has many unknown side projects - this is likely to have been one of them, but shelved after the affair ended or again because he felt it was sub-par.

Actually you are completely wrong when it comes to anything pre-1996: there's probably not a single shelved project or side-project from these years that we don't know about: Per Nielsen, Alex Hahn, Madhouseman and other have interviewed dozens of ex bandmembers, sound engineers and managment staff such as Alan Leeds and we know quite evrything that was happening at the time. Read books such as Per Nielsen's "DMSR" or more simply, just go check www.princevault.com for more info. for example you'll be surprised to see that we know the exact recording dates for most 80's songs, and that we know about hundreds of unreleased songs that are not even circulating on bootlegs. Obviously you are not aware of all that research so please check it out before voicing your opinion about what Prince did or didn't.

AGAINST PRINCE INVOLVEMENT

1) Per Nilsen / Other Biographers didn't mention his involvement.

Remember Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. They may not have felt it was relevant to mention as it was never released or perhaps they didn't have enough evidence to reference it due to Point 7 above.

Nonsense: they mentioned everything they knew about since they aimed at doing comprehensive lists of every song ever recorded by Prince. There's no way Prince could have done a whole album with Kim Basinger without any sound engineer, ex bandmember or staff members knowing about it. For example, when Prince claimed in the late 90's that he'd recorded many songs with Miles Davis, Alan Leeds said in an interview that it was most likely bullshit because he was in charge of renting Prince's studios and that his job involved knowing who was recording what and when in Paisley Park, and that it was therefore virtually impossible for such a thing to happen without him knowing.

You're gonna have to do better than that guys to convince me otherwise..

I don't care convincing YOU. I care about others coming here and believing you. Some poeple do WORK HARD (and for no money) at solving issues about what Prince did record and when, so please show some respect and don't ruin our work with your fantasies.


I don't think u know who BorisFishPaw is: one of the most informed Prince experts online. When Boris says something about Prince, u can take for a fact that Boris knows. I don't think anyone here, including the most arrogant of us, would not trust Boris when he claims he knows something about Prince facts.

Militant, Spinlight and myself are quite informed, too: we've all been researching Prince's music for years and reading all that's to be read about his recording sessions. Look at the discography I'm working at (link below) and that'll give you an idea about the level of commitment. You can also look at Scififilmsnerd's amazing list of recording sessions: http://prince.org/msg/7/320445 It's no bullshit, it's serious work!

We're a whole community of people being seriously dedicated at researching Prince's music and we've been doing it for YEARS. One of out motto is to use reliable sources before claiming Prince did this or didn't do that and, when in doubt, to say "i have reason to believe this but my opinion is questionable so don't take it for a fact".

The Kim Basinger sessions have been known about and circulating for almost 20 years and they've been researched and Prince didn't do it. There's nothing to add.

Now if you WANT 2 believe it so much that u think u know better than Per Nielsen or BorisFishPaw, we can't prevent you from believing what u want. Just don't try to abuse younger fans who are still willing to believe anything about what Prince did and didn't.

Some people, after all, still claim that God created the Earth in 7 days and that dinosaurs and men co-existed on the planet at some point in past History...

Peace, dude...

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Reply #29 posted 05/21/11 12:57am

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TheFreakerFantastic said:

Sorry guys but you are really sheep in your thinking. Look at the evidence:

Sorry, but the "evidence" is all in your head. The FACT is that this album has nothing to do with Prince. And yes, I do mean FACT, not opinion or supposition. Also, it is you who are displaying "sheep" thinking, as you are blindly following the misinformation perpertrated by bootleggers and fans over the years saying that this album was written and produced by Prince without questioning it or looking into it further. A classic case of putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 7.

FOR PRINCE INVOLVEMENT

1) Princey sounding titles, notice they are mostly in Princebonics too.

They are only in Princebonics because bootleggers wrote them that way in an attempt to make it look more "Princey" and further the deception that they were Prince songs. The real song titles do not include Princebonics.

2) Prince was dating Kim Basinger - pretty much ALL his other romances had an album or song as a result, think Jill Jones, Taja Sevelle, Vanity 6, Ingrid Chavez, Mayte, Bria, Tamar, Sheena Easton...in fact when has he not recorded an album with a lover. It's illogical to think he wouldn't have done the same with Kim.

It's not in dispute that Prince and Kim were going to make an album together. However, the project was barely started before they went their separate ways. No engineers or musicians who were at Paisley Park in '89 can recall any work being done beyond The Scandalous Sex Suite and possibly 1 or 2 basic tracks being started. Yet all other side projects (even unreleased ones) are pretty well documented from this time.

3) You can hear his vocals on it - this is is pretty much irrefutable evidence. He would NEVER allow his vocals to be used on a project directed by someone else, come on we know what he's like about control.

That's not true. You can't hear his vocals on any of those tracks because they're not there. If you think you can hear Prince's voice on this album then you need to get your hearing tested.

4) Subject matter dealing with Sex....hmm who is the most sex obsessed songwriter....Prince or Madonna.

So your proof is that some of the songs are about sex, so therefore Prince (or Madonna) must've written them? By that reasoning Color Me Badd's "I Wanna Sex You Up" and Salt N' Pepa's "Let's Talk About Sex" must've been written by Prince or Madonna too.

5) Kim on her own would have no musical knowledge to record her own album, she would have needed the help of an expert - Prince

Cuz of course there aren't any other musicians in the world other than Prince.

6) Yes it may be sub-par but that doesn't disprove Prince's involvement. This could have been unreleased for a good reason - Prince felt it was sub-par. Not everything in his vault is going to be good now is it?

Well, that's true. Not everything in the vault is gold.

7) Prince is notoriously secretive and has many unknown side projects - this is likely to have been one of them, but shelved after the affair ended or again because he felt it was sub-par.

Actually, he doesn't have that many unknown side projects. Especially from that era. He may be secretive, but he doesn't work in an isolation bubble. We DO know about all the other projects from that time in quite a lot of detail... The Mavis Staples album, the songs for Patti LaBelle and Kahoru Kohiruimaki, the unreleased 3rd Madhouse album, the work on Jill Jones' 2nd album and Sheila E.'s 3rd album etc.

AGAINST PRINCE INVOLVEMENT

1) Per Nilsen / Other Biographers didn't mention his involvement.

Remember Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. They may not have felt it was relevant to mention as it was never released or perhaps they didn't have enough evidence to reference it due to Point 7 above.

Absence of evidence is not proof either.

However, there is no "absence of evidence", there are cold hard facts that proove that this album has no Prince involvement. But before I get to that, there's enough circumstantial evidence to show the same anyway...

Firstly, the songs themselves. NONE of the songs on this album have ever been heard of before or since. This is extremely unusual. Almost every other Prince project (for himself or other people) pulls at least one or two existing songs from the vault. Or if it's shelved, have at least one or two of the songs reused or reworked on a later project. No Prince versions, demos or other artist versions of any of these songs have ever surfaced. And no record exists for any of these songs in any known studio log. None of these songs have ever surfaced in any research or interviews done with any engineers or musicians who worked with Prince at this time.

Secondly, the sound of the songs themselves. ALL the other songs Prince recorded around this time had a particular sound. Just by listening to them you can hear the connection between the Batman album, the Mavis Staples album, the Patti Labelle and Kahoru Kohiruimaki songs. However, the Kim Basinger album sounds NOTHING like any of these, in musical style, instrumentation or keyboard and drum sounds/patches.

But if that isn't enough, here's the facts...


The unreleased Kim Basinger album "The Color of Sex" (it was never going to be called Hollywood Affair, that's pure bootlegger invention) was recorded 1990-1991 for Giant Records. It was co-written by Kim with Robert Brookins, Gordon Jones & Timmy Gatling (who worked with Teddy Riley and Keith Sweat). Most of the songs were submitted for registration at the Library of Congress on March 11, 1991. No mention of Prince or any of his psuedonyms or publishing companies appears on any of the registration documents for any of the songs on the album. I even know that there was an outtake from the album called "You Can Reach Out For Me" which was registered at the same time (so this probably would've been used as a b-side had any singles been released).

You're gonna have to do better than that guys to convince me otherwise..

[Edited 5/20/11 17:21pm]

I just did.


[Edited 5/21/11 1:14am]

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