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Reply #60 posted 02/21/10 11:32pm

theRight1

VinylFunk said:

shytown said:



Huh? You did the photoshopping work, you have issues lol and yes i take it personal when people try so hard to dog someone out. I've been on the org longer than you and I defend Bria because it's not cool to see the hate she gets for no real reason. I don't visit this site that often an I think i'll take a break from this place again. Nothin new bored2

Wtf is wrong with you?? You are one unbalanced person with A LOT of assumptions for someone I dont know. NO... I DID NOT photoshop that you crazy! Lay it to rest and get off my dick. I see MINNESOTA is in the house trying to rep for Bria right now and its obvious your involvement is of a lot of fuckin familiarity. Isnt it Bianca?? Ah, right. wink Chicago my ass.

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Reply #61 posted 02/21/10 11:35pm

theRight1

futurebaybeemama said:

Forget it, this is a hate thread. People are here to be rude confused
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Reply #62 posted 02/22/10 12:05am

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VinylFunk said:

theRight1 said:

^ I know why! lol You know how vain women can be.
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Well Prince is half woman lol


And Bria's all man. wink
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Reply #63 posted 02/22/10 12:20am

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Reply #64 posted 02/22/10 6:47am

Brofie

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Acrylic said:

Thibaut said:



If you think sly & the family stone and graham central station are a joke then it is you who is the joke.


In this day and age, Larry is a joke.
... with a really bad punchline.


Bass players today still use a technique that Larry originated. He is in the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame. His legacy deserves some respect so there is no way he is a joke. THe joke is not acknowledging these facts.
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Reply #65 posted 02/22/10 6:50am

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ernestsewell said:

WaterInYourBath said:


Larry Graham is not a joke. His music was fantastic in the 70s.

I've said this before, and I'm sure some agree.

There are two different people here:

1) The Larry Graham of Graham Central Station as well as the solo artist. This Larry Graham redefined how to play a bass guitar. He did it with Sly Stone and he did it on his own. If you just go and listen to albums like Ain't No 'Bout A Doubt It or Release Yourself, it's incredible music. Everyone in that band contributed something amazing to those songs. GCS has its place firmly solidified in music and funk history.

2) The Larry Graham that is a Jehovah's Witness. S-T-A-U-N-C-H, staunch. (Anyone get that reference?) He's the one everyone dislikes, because people view him as really effecting, negatively so, Prince's music, songwriting, and down right way of living. While we're all for more positivity and having our + sign today, we're not for having one of our favorite artists edit himself to the point of being embarrassing in public, on record, in interviews, and otherwise. That's the Larry Graham that is a joke.

If Graham had never gotten involved with Prince to the extent he did, and effected Prince's music, we'd all still be heralding him as one of the greats from 40 years ago. Yet we now see him different. Cunning, almost ego-driven, and a "Right Fighter" (fighting to be RIGHT all the time, opposed to living and let live) - which sort of sums up Prince at this point. Prince has become a bigger ego than ever, and it's not even musical. It's his chemical trails rant. It's his nonsense ramblings like a lunatic savant. He's Stephen Hawking and Rainman all rolled into one. Many would blame Graham for bringing this imbalance out in him. To some extent, that's probably correct. Who knows if Prince would have been exposed to the rantings of Dick Gregory, a theocratic order of women being less-than, and almost downright anti-semetic, or otherwise had it not been for Graham and his "guidance"?

25 years ago, Prince peformed a birthday concert at Paisley Park. When someone shouted "Happy Birthday!", he simply said "Thank you". If someone did that today, what do you think he'd say? That's Graham right there. That is the Graham people hate.

Graham the musician is great. Graham the Witness is a crying shame. If we separate Prince from his religion (when folks say "Oh I love the music on The Rainbow Children, but I can do without the preaching"), then why can't we separate Graham from his eternal "guidance" of Prince, and just enjoy "It's Alright". Because ultimately....isn't it alright?


So you based this over long meaningless pontification on what Prince's response to a stranger yelling happy birthday would be today? lol
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Reply #66 posted 02/22/10 7:04am

Brofie

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2elijah said:

Tamar had the best voice out of all his proteges. She had actual talent. The problem with some folks, and why the industry is so bad today, is you have manufactured. no talent ass, bimbos that can't sing for sh*t, f*cking up the industry, while those with real talent are bypassed. The industry is run by males, so naturally they'll go after no talent females,d who they consider have the looks consumers want, yet half of them can't sing for shit live, and once consumers find out these no talent, has-beens, can't sing live, they don't last.
Talent lasts, looks fade with age.

The problem with some ignorant consumers in this society, is that they are hung up on looks themselves, and bring their own insecurities about themselves, into the mix, which helps to justify the talentless bimbo sh*t the music industry tries to sell to those particular consumers. They know who will fall for that BS, and help support it. It's no different than the modeling industry and its effect on many young girls, brainwashing many young, girls and even older females, about what the ideal female should look like. So it's the fault of these industries and the consumers that fall for the brainwashing BS.
which are the greatest lies ever sold.


Dont play yourself by blaming the image of females promoted in the music business solely on men. The target demogrpahic of the record companies, young females, are fixated on pretty female singers who dress scantily and have good bodies. That is not just a male thing. Most of those records that Brittany Spears sold where bought teenage white girls. If she had to live on the money she makes from men buying her records, she would be in the trailer park where she belongs. All of the marginal bimbos like Beyonce and CArrie Underwood are propped up by image. If Beyonce looked like the chick from the movie Precious, you wouldnt know who she was.

Alicia Keys is proof that good looks and exceptional talent can make it with the flood of pop bimbos. The key term here is exceptional. There was nothing exceptional about Tamar. Chicks that look as good or better and sing as good or better are standing up in the church choir every Sunday in every black church in America. They are a dime a dozen - and always have been. They backup Chaka Khan or some white rock acts when they want to add some "soul" to their thing. Being black, loud, and able to scream "YOu Gonna Love Me" from Dreamgirls gets you to Sowtime at the Apollo if youre lucky. Thats as good as it gets.

Tamar had better: Prince took her to national TV performances in the US (SNL, Good Morning America) and UK (Brit Awards) and even played backup to her on a headline tour. If she could catch on after all that kind of launch, she is were she ought to be: the worst Prince chick ever.
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Reply #67 posted 02/22/10 8:17am

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Brofie said:

So you based this over long meaningless pontification on what Prince's response to a stranger yelling happy birthday would be today? lol

Why are you always a troll on here? You never really ad anything meaningful to anything, but rather sit around and make constant negative comments. You probably giggle to yourself when you type one of your million dollar (and highly overpaid) one liners, but the rest of us just kind of see you as a gnat.
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Reply #68 posted 02/22/10 9:10am

2elijah

Brofie said:

2elijah said:

Tamar had the best voice out of all his proteges. She had actual talent. The problem with some folks, and why the industry is so bad today, is you have manufactured. no talent ass, bimbos that can't sing for sh*t, f*cking up the industry, while those with real talent are bypassed. The industry is run by males, so naturally they'll go after no talent females,d who they consider have the looks consumers want, yet half of them can't sing for shit live, and once consumers find out these no talent, has-beens, can't sing live, they don't last.
Talent lasts, looks fade with age.

The problem with some ignorant consumers in this society, is that they are hung up on looks themselves, and bring their own insecurities about themselves, into the mix, which helps to justify the talentless bimbo sh*t the music industry tries to sell to those particular consumers. They know who will fall for that BS, and help support it. It's no different than the modeling industry and its effect on many young girls, brainwashing many young, girls and even older females, about what the ideal female should look like. So it's the fault of these industries and the consumers that fall for the brainwashing BS.
which are the greatest lies ever sold.


Dont play yourself by blaming the image of females promoted in the music business solely on men. The target demogrpahic of the record companies, young females, are fixated on pretty female singers who dress scantily and have good bodies. That is not just a male thing. Most of those records that Brittany Spears sold where bought teenage white girls. If she had to live on the money she makes from men buying her records, she would be in the trailer park where she belongs. All of the marginal bimbos like Beyonce and CArrie Underwood are propped up by image. If Beyonce looked like the chick from the movie Precious, you wouldnt know who she was.

Alicia Keys is proof that good looks and exceptional talent can make it with the flood of pop bimbos. The key term here is exceptional. There was nothing exceptional about Tamar. Chicks that look as good or better and sing as good or better are standing up in the church choir every Sunday in every black church in America. They are a dime a dozen - and always have been. They backup Chaka Khan or some white rock acts when they want to add some "soul" to their thing. Being black, loud, and able to scream "YOu Gonna Love Me" from Dreamgirls gets you to Sowtime at the Apollo if youre lucky. Thats as good as it gets.

Tamar had better: Prince took her to national TV performances in the US (SNL, Good Morning America) and UK (Brit Awards) and even played backup to her on a headline tour. If she could catch on after all that kind of launch, she is were she ought to be: the worst Prince chick ever.




Brofile, you've already been played and brainwashed by society, because you allowed society's bs about what is the ideal woman or man, influence your mindset. You never hesitate to show your disrespect, insults and dislike for females of a darker shade and put them down on the lowest part of the barrel, , but that's seems to be some kind of personal issue you'll have to work out on your own, as I'm not buying your usual BS.

Prince also showcased the Twinz. Where is their career now? They were taken all over to the UK and many parts of the US, on stage with an international artist. They were shown on SNL as well and had much more of an exposure and length of time with him than Tamar. With the looks, you claim gets females like them over, and what you claim the the industry likes, they haven't gotten very far with just their looks and shade of skin have they? No one other than Prince fans even know who they were/are.

They received international attention, yet here is the demand from the industry for them? So your theory doesn't hold much water. In your opinion as Tamar being the worst protege, that's a bunch of BS. She was the only one who actually had any talent as a singer. Not to mention her song Beautiful, Loved and Blessed being nominated for a grammy, even if it didn't win.
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Reply #69 posted 02/22/10 11:07am

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DesireeNevermind said:

Mani is in the lead. I don't think his work was spectacular when he was with her, I don't think he was all that happy- just rebounding. Plus I don't think he cared that much when they split. She added no value whatsoever.



but she was his wife during the Musicology/3121 period, and that was a very lively time in Uptown for Prince fans
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Reply #70 posted 02/22/10 11:09am

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Efan said:

I don't know if I can call her the worst, because I like her a lot, but in answer to the part about which left him musically uninspired--Mayte. I think I hate all the love songs he wrote for her.



I'm sorta agreeing with U

and as far as a Prince chick, I subtract points from Mayte because she wasn't even a Prince/music fan. Her mother was.
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Reply #71 posted 02/22/10 11:12am

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WaterInYourBath said:

Acrylic said:



The Larry joke will NEVER get old.
Because Larry IS a joke.
bored2

Larry Graham is not a joke. His music was fantastic in the 70s.


yeah his music maybe, but as far as being an inspiration 4 Prince, he is not

Susannah was not a musician, but a trained singer, artist and worldy and U C the inspiration she brought Prince
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Reply #72 posted 02/22/10 11:17am

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2elijah said:

Tamar had the best voice out of all his proteges. She had actual talent. The problem with some folks, and why the industry is so bad today, is you have manufactured. no talent ass, bimbos that can't sing for sh*t, f*cking up the industry, while those with real talent are bypassed. The industry is run by males, so naturally they'll go after no talent females,d who they consider have the looks consumers want, yet half of them can't sing for shit live, and once consumers find out these no talent, has-beens, can't sing live, they don't last.
Talent lasts, looks fade with age.

The problem with some ignorant consumers in this society, is that they are hung up on looks themselves, and bring their own insecurities about themselves, into the mix, which helps to justify the talentless bimbo sh*t the music industry tries to sell to those particular consumers. They know who will fall for that BS, and help support it. It's no different than the modeling industry and its effect on many young girls, brainwashing many young, girls and even older females, about what the ideal female should look like. So it's the fault of these industries and the consumers that fall for the brainwashing BS.
which are the greatest lies ever sold.



In the grand central plan of the Protege's I don't think Tamar ranks at all with the (female)proteges of the 1980's:Vanity6:Vanity Brenda Susan, Jill Jones, the Family via Susannah, & Sheila E.

Was she really a protege or just a 'related artist'? like Shelby?
Didn't Tamar originate with Destiny's Child?

Maybe better than Apollonia as a protege, but she get's 5 stars 4 purple rain
Remember the Time is a protege band too
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Reply #73 posted 02/22/10 11:46am

2elijah

OldFriends4Sale said:

2elijah said:

Tamar had the best voice out of all his proteges. She had actual talent. The problem with some folks, and why the industry is so bad today, is you have manufactured. no talent ass, bimbos that can't sing for sh*t, f*cking up the industry, while those with real talent are bypassed. The industry is run by males, so naturally they'll go after no talent females,d who they consider have the looks consumers want, yet half of them can't sing for shit live, and once consumers find out these no talent, has-beens, can't sing live, they don't last.
Talent lasts, looks fade with age.

The problem with some ignorant consumers in this society, is that they are hung up on looks themselves, and bring their own insecurities about themselves, into the mix, which helps to justify the talentless bimbo sh*t the music industry tries to sell to those particular consumers. They know who will fall for that BS, and help support it. It's no different than the modeling industry and its effect on many young girls, brainwashing many young, girls and even older females, about what the ideal female should look like. So it's the fault of these industries and the consumers that fall for the brainwashing BS.
which are the greatest lies ever sold.



In the grand central plan of the Protege's I don't think Tamar ranks at all with the (female)proteges of the 1980's:Vanity6:Vanity Brenda Susan, Jill Jones, the Family via Susannah, & Sheila E.

Was she really a protege or just a 'related artist'? like Shelby?
Didn't Tamar originate with Destiny's Child?

Maybe better than Apollonia as a protege, but she get's 5 stars 4 purple rain
Remember the Time is a protege band too
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You have a point there, I guess I would consider her a related artist like Shelby J. Tamar has a voice and can sing. I shouldn't even categorize her as a protege. After her short stint with Prince, her single BL&B that she sang with him on the 3121 cd, did receive a grammy nomination. I do not know what transpired between her and Prince, that he no longer promoted her. But I do remember him bringing her on stage in March 2007, to sing on stage in Vegas, and she looked well. I also heard she sang at the aftershow that night, with Shelby J as well.

Quite frankly, I've never really followed Appollonia's career post-Prince, but it did not last that long. I believe Vanity's career, however short, had a much longer run than hers. At least Vanity resulted in acting post-Prince. I just don't agree that Tamar should be labeled his "worst" protege, Tamar has a voice and can sing, but people seem to dismiss and degrade her because she wasn't what Prince usually promotes, which in the past were butterscotch/caramel complected females.
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Reply #74 posted 02/22/10 2:50pm

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Yeah but Tamar qualifies as a protege for the mere reasons that Prince performed on stage with her several times, produced her songs and tried hard to get her signed to a label. Related artists are more left to fend for themselves I think.
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Reply #75 posted 02/22/10 4:03pm

shytown

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Huh? You did the photoshopping work, you have issues lol and yes i take it personal when people try so hard to dog someone out. I've been on the org longer than you and I defend Bria because it's not cool to see the hate she gets for no real reason. I don't visit this site that often an I think i'll take a break from this place again. Nothin new bored2

Wtf is wrong with you?? You are one unbalanced person with A LOT of assumptions for someone I dont know. NO... I DID NOT photoshop that you crazy! Lay it to rest and get off my dick. I see MINNESOTA is in the house trying to rep for Bria right now and its obvious your involvement is of a lot of fuckin familiarity. Isnt it Bianca?? Ah, right. wink Chicago my ass.


Yeah ok lol Whats interesting is that you call me her sister LOL Who is Bianca? I dont know her but you sure come off like "you" do. eek You are so transparent and no im not Bria's sister... I dont live in Minnesota....i met her a few years ago before Prince wisked her away into purpledom lol . Be nice to Bria, talk to her. She is a really cool person. Im not jealous or insecure around other beautiful women. Im very secure about myself in that way. In the end the hate is gonna work out in her favor anyway, I understand why Prince is P whipped LOL She is gorgeous.
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Reply #76 posted 02/22/10 4:23pm

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Yeah but Tamar qualifies as a protege for the mere reasons that Prince performed on stage with her several times, produced her songs and tried hard to get her signed to a label. Related artists are more left to fend for themselves I think.



True but for the past couple years she has been fending for herself. Tamar is like Shelby to me, part of the band not an official protoge. He picked the worst cover for her milk and honey. She has way better pictures now! cool

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Reply #77 posted 02/22/10 4:37pm

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I liked the honey drippin' on Tamar but the milk just reminds me of.....well y'all know. I keep thinking of what Princey may have done to her many a late night. lol hmm
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Reply #78 posted 02/22/10 7:28pm

VinylFunk

shytown said:

VinylFunk said:


Wtf is wrong with you?? You are one unbalanced person with A LOT of assumptions for someone I dont know. NO... I DID NOT photoshop that you crazy! Lay it to rest and get off my dick. I see MINNESOTA is in the house trying to rep for Bria right now and its obvious your involvement is of a lot of fuckin familiarity. Isnt it Bianca?? Ah, right. wink Chicago my ass.


Yeah ok lol Whats interesting is that you call me her sister LOL Who is Bianca? I dont know her but you sure come off like "you" do. eek You are so transparent and no im not Bria's sister... I dont live in Minnesota....i met her a few years ago before Prince wisked her away into purpledom lol . Be nice to Bria, talk to her. She is a really cool person. Im not jealous or insecure around other beautiful women. Im very secure about myself in that way. In the end the hate is gonna work out in her favor anyway, I understand why Prince is P whipped LOL She is gorgeous.
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Youre all over the place. Youre revealing more about yourself than you think you are anything about what I think of BV. When have I said anything about Bria Valente? I posted a picture. You’ve made up nothing but haughty lies and accusations. What does that say about you?
I googled your name because I cant figure out why you come across so suspect and it looks like you have a HISTORY about stickin knives in folks who even wince a threat to Bria Valente. No wonder they got so much talk about BV posting on the net.

http://prince.org/msg/5/293164
http://prince.org/msg/5/280980?&pg=10
http://prince.org/msg/7/322577?&pg=7
(plenty more) wink


What you don’t seem to realize is that your patronizing attitude is what puts folks against BV even more. Any fan with a rejecting opinion is put off all the more by your ludicrous and obnoxious allegations. Your hypocricy is the only thing that is translucent here, not me. Let it go. You paint a pretty picture of BV but youre not doing nothing for her but making people nod they heads when she fuck up. Damn shame and Im only saying what everyone wants to say. You don’t know What I think about Bv other than Im obviously not a fan of her work with Prince. I don’t know her personally but everyone whos a prince fan does know her business, so you mean to tell me as much as you know about her that you don’t know who her sister is???? Yea, ok. biggrin
Whatatever going on with the Purple one and Bria personally, I could give a hoot bout. lol Everybody knows Prince is a pimp. If you think bragging about Prince being in love with Bria is something to be proud of, you are living in a fantasy world. Any woman or family member or friend of that woman, that would go on the internet to whoop and rave about how beautiful, talented and how happy Prince and her are together is worried about something. It also says a lot about the character and intentions of the woman, not to mention the friends and family. Especially if her friends and family know hes a pimp yet are STILL holding on to the reigns AND telling her to do so??? That’s some real interesting psychology. cool gtfo
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Reply #79 posted 02/22/10 8:25pm

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Proverbs 23:9
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Reply #80 posted 02/23/10 8:09am

theRight1

All you have to do Vinylfunk is post music by Bach. It can calm and soothe the savage beast. Bria is "gorgeous"? IMO not even with all the makeup. Plus, gorgeous women are a dime a dozen so I don't know what's the point. Maybe they don't see many gorgeouse women in Minnesota but where I'm from Bria would need to go sit down somewhere.
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Reply #81 posted 02/23/10 10:36am

VinylFunk

squirrelgrease said:

VinylFunk said:


Well Prince is half woman lol


And Bria's all man. wink

Op! lol I didnt say it! You must be insecure and just jealous of Bria squirrelgrease! lol
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Reply #82 posted 02/23/10 10:37am

VinylFunk

theRight1 said:

All you have to do Vinylfunk is post music by Bach. It can calm and soothe the savage beast. Bria is "gorgeous"? IMO not even with all the makeup. Plus, gorgeous women are a dime a dozen so I don't know what's the point. Maybe they don't see many gorgeouse women in Minnesota but where I'm from Bria would need to go sit down somewhere.

neutral I missed something didnt I? Does this shytown start fights with everyone? tsk tsk. I guess I should ignore the child then.
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Reply #83 posted 02/23/10 10:54am

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theRight1 said:

All you have to do Vinylfunk is post music by Bach. It can calm and soothe the savage beast. Bria is "gorgeous"? IMO not even with all the makeup. Plus, gorgeous women are a dime a dozen so I don't know what's the point. Maybe they don't see many gorgeouse women in Minnesota but where I'm from Bria would need to go sit down somewhere.


Savage breast. rolleyes

The full quote (by William Congreve) is:

Music hath charms to soothe a savage breast, to soften rocks, or bend a knotted oak.
We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #84 posted 02/23/10 11:01am

theRight1

VinylFunk said:

theRight1 said:

All you have to do Vinylfunk is post music by Bach. It can calm and soothe the savage beast. Bria is "gorgeous"? IMO not even with all the makeup. Plus, gorgeous women are a dime a dozen so I don't know what's the point. Maybe they don't see many gorgeouse women in Minnesota but where I'm from Bria would need to go sit down somewhere.

neutral I missed something didnt I? Does this shytown start fights with everyone? tsk tsk. I guess I should ignore the child then.

She looks at it as "trying to help". Help I don't need but she sure had theRight1. Yes, just ignore the child.
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Reply #85 posted 02/23/10 11:01am

theRight1

Genesia said:

theRight1 said:

All you have to do Vinylfunk is post music by Bach. It can calm and soothe the savage beast. Bria is "gorgeous"? IMO not even with all the makeup. Plus, gorgeous women are a dime a dozen so I don't know what's the point. Maybe they don't see many gorgeouse women in Minnesota but where I'm from Bria would need to go sit down somewhere.


Savage breast. rolleyes

The full quote (by William Congreve) is:

Music hath charms to soothe a savage breast, to soften rocks, or bend a knotted oak.

Now this is help! You learn something new every day. I didn't know that. Thank you. wink
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Reply #86 posted 02/23/10 3:38pm

mimi2

worst one? Carmen Electra by FAR. lol
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Reply #87 posted 02/23/10 4:58pm

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really curious: why is it that everyone "thinks" they know that P had relations with all these women? Tamar- the Twins- Belinda? maybe I missed something or is this truly speculation because they were seen out with him? can't the boy have friends? if he was seen out with dudes all the time then.....
LOVE HARD.
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Reply #88 posted 02/23/10 8:32pm

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mimi2 said:

worst one? Carmen Electra by FAR. lol



yeah she at the bottom. he invested a lil time in her but that was not time well spent.
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Reply #89 posted 02/23/10 10:23pm

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VinylFunk said:

squirrelgrease said:



And Bria's all man. wink

Op! lol I didnt say it! You must be insecure and just jealous of Bria squirrelgrease! lol



razz
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