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Thread started 07/13/07 4:55pm

shaomi

Living in The New Wave Vs. Dirty Mind

Shocking as it might sound around here, i think LITNW is as good an album as DM!!!

Well, one can argue that it was released 2 years later & that in 1982, Prince has already moved 4ward 2 the more computed sound of Vanity 6 & 1999, & that by 1985 André's A.C. sounded like 1999 when Prince had moved 4ward & so on so Prince was groundbreaking & André following, that's obvious.

This being said, if u 4get the schedule factor, i think LITNW is as great as DM, with very neat arrangments, great melodies & pure electrofunk grooves! & its amazing how both albums have the exact same "sound."

Am i being heritic ? lol
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Reply #1 posted 07/13/07 5:50pm

BlaqueKnight

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I liked Living in The New Wave better. I never cared much for Dirty Mind.
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Reply #2 posted 07/13/07 6:01pm

sexxydancer

I prefer Dirty Mind. wink
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Reply #3 posted 07/13/07 6:07pm

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sexxydancer said:

I prefer Dirty Mind. wink


I'm shocked! rolleyes lol
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Reply #4 posted 07/13/07 6:15pm

sexxydancer

BlaqueKnight said:

sexxydancer said:

I prefer Dirty Mind. wink


I'm shocked! rolleyes lol

lol lol
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Reply #5 posted 07/16/07 2:05pm

Romeoblu

I Consider both albums as classics and two of my favorite albums ever.

I would however chose Dirty Mind. It has Dirty Mind Head and Uptown on it the funkiest songs ever.

I would put Livin' in the New Wave on a Par with Controversy.
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Reply #6 posted 07/18/07 12:27am

Abdul

Not even close..... Dirty Mind
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Reply #7 posted 07/18/07 1:26am

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Besides the track "Uptown", Living In The New Wave, as a whole, is a better album. Better production, that's for sure. Dirty Mind, the album, sounds hella demo-ish. The Time's first album puts Dirty Mind to shame and they were cut damn near on the same equipment. The Time's first album just flat out has better songs on it than Dirty Mind. He had to give Warner's something that they could get with, (funk) and P wasn't trying to fuck with funk or anything "too black' at that point, so...that's one reason he did The Time. To release his "black" material. The Time's first album outsold Controversy as well. I know P wanted a stripped down sound with Dirty Mind and he got it. It's just way too spartan sounding for me.
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Reply #8 posted 07/18/07 2:52am

SoulAlive

'Dirty Mind' is my second favorite Prince album (after '1999').Damn,I miss that era! Prince was dangerous back then lol
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Reply #9 posted 07/18/07 7:06am

SoulAlive

blackguitaristz said:

Besides the track "Uptown", Living In The New Wave, as a whole, is a better album. Better production, that's for sure. Dirty Mind, the album, sounds hella demo-ish. The Time's first album puts Dirty Mind to shame and they were cut damn near on the same equipment. The Time's first album just flat out has better songs on it than Dirty Mind. He had to give Warner's something that they could get with, (funk) and P wasn't trying to fuck with funk or anything "too black' at that point, so...that's one reason he did The Time. To release his "black" material. The Time's first album outsold Controversy as well. I know P wanted a stripped down sound with Dirty Mind and he got it. It's just way too spartan sounding for me.


wow,I'm shocked that you're not crazy about 'Dirty Mind'!
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Reply #10 posted 07/18/07 7:41am

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Besides the track "Uptown", Living In The New Wave, as a whole, is a better album. Better production, that's for sure. Dirty Mind, the album, sounds hella demo-ish. The Time's first album puts Dirty Mind to shame and they were cut damn near on the same equipment. The Time's first album just flat out has better songs on it than Dirty Mind. He had to give Warner's something that they could get with, (funk) and P wasn't trying to fuck with funk or anything "too black' at that point, so...that's one reason he did The Time. To release his "black" material. The Time's first album outsold Controversy as well. I know P wanted a stripped down sound with Dirty Mind and he got it. It's just way too spartan sounding for me.


Didn't andre write the bassline for uptown?

Dirty mind was demos. prince was gonna properly produce the songs but his manager advised him not to. He said it would be better having a 'rawer' sound after the polished commercial sound of the prince lp
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Reply #11 posted 07/18/07 12:20pm

shaomi

icke4presidant said:

blackguitaristz said:

Besides the track "Uptown", Living In The New Wave, as a whole, is a better album. Better production, that's for sure. Dirty Mind, the album, sounds hella demo-ish. The Time's first album puts Dirty Mind to shame and they were cut damn near on the same equipment. The Time's first album just flat out has better songs on it than Dirty Mind. He had to give Warner's something that they could get with, (funk) and P wasn't trying to fuck with funk or anything "too black' at that point, so...that's one reason he did The Time. To release his "black" material. The Time's first album outsold Controversy as well. I know P wanted a stripped down sound with Dirty Mind and he got it. It's just way too spartan sounding for me.


Didn't andre write the bassline for uptown?

Dirty mind was demos. prince was gonna properly produce the songs but his manager advised him not to. He said it would be better having a 'rawer' sound after the polished commercial sound of the prince lp


Since then, almost everything Prince has released was "demos" (& all the better 4 it!)
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Reply #12 posted 07/18/07 2:12pm

rockwilder

I really like them both. It's my favorite Andre album.DM is one of my favorite albums by anyone,however!
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Reply #13 posted 07/19/07 2:29am

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SoulAlive said:

blackguitaristz said:

Besides the track "Uptown", Living In The New Wave, as a whole, is a better album. Better production, that's for sure. Dirty Mind, the album, sounds hella demo-ish. The Time's first album puts Dirty Mind to shame and they were cut damn near on the same equipment. The Time's first album just flat out has better songs on it than Dirty Mind. He had to give Warner's something that they could get with, (funk) and P wasn't trying to fuck with funk or anything "too black' at that point, so...that's one reason he did The Time. To release his "black" material. The Time's first album outsold Controversy as well. I know P wanted a stripped down sound with Dirty Mind and he got it. It's just way too spartan sounding for me.


wow,I'm shocked that you're not crazy about 'Dirty Mind'!

I remember clearly when I bought the album the week it was released. I had already had the 45 to Uptown. I love that song. I love the 45 version better than the album version. Anyway, listening to the rest of the album, I liked the song Dirty Mind and Party Up is cool. But the rest of the album,....never could get with When You Were Mine and Gotta A Broken Heart Again...hell nah.. Major yawn. Sister was cool mainly cuz of the line "she's a motherfucker...can't you understand?".
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Reply #14 posted 07/19/07 2:41am

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blackguitaristz said:

SoulAlive said:



wow,I'm shocked that you're not crazy about 'Dirty Mind'!

I remember clearly when I bought the album the week it was released. I had already had the 45 to Uptown. I love that song. I love the 45 version better than the album version. Anyway, listening to the rest of the album, I liked the song Dirty Mind and Party Up is cool. But the rest of the album,....never could get with When You Were Mine and Gotta A Broken Heart Again...hell nah.. Major yawn. Sister was cool mainly cuz of the line "she's a motherfucker...can't you understand?".


What about "Head"? lol
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Reply #15 posted 07/20/07 7:54am

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I guess it was said best on the Time's "What time is it?" album

"we don't like new wave.....moooohaaaaa"!!!!!

the DM tunes sound better live!!!!!
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Reply #16 posted 07/20/07 9:54am

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Dirty Mind by a long shot. Loved LITNW, but Prince was so controversial back then. That intro to 'Head'...that's the cut right there! Controversy is my fav Prince album. But just the album cover alone on Dirty Mind made people sit up and take notice. If you had overlooked P with For You, you could NOT ignore him with Dirty Mind.

Those were the good old days.

Was listening to 3121 today and it's good. But it totally confirms for me that all of us have a time to explode. And the 80's belonged to P.
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Reply #17 posted 07/21/07 8:52am

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I don't really see the two albums as comparable. When I first bought "Dirty Mind", I instantly loved every single track. When I first bought "Livin' In The New Wave", I hated every track except for "Kelly's Eyes" and "So Fine" because Andre's first album was much more rock oriented than "Dirty Mind" which contained funky numbers like "Head", "Partyup", "Do It All Night", etc.

Over the years, when I expanded my taste and started getting more into rock, I grew to love every single track on the "Livin' In The New Wave" album and like it much better than the "AC" album. Andre has also been my favorite to ever come from the Prince camp.
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Reply #18 posted 07/21/07 9:25am

shaomi

Andre was very talented indeed. AC is very experimental & dark, i like ot too. It's funny because in an interview André said that he was thinking himself as an "experimental" artist & never really expected commercial success...
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