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PurpleCharm

Denise Matthews AKA Vanity's Recent Vibe.com Interview...

I visit this forum pretty regularly and I don't recall seeing a thread about the interview. Sorry if this has already been posted.



And You Are?... Vanity of Vanity 6
By: Keith Murphy
POSTED: 10:44 EST, May 30, 2007

Every week, we locate a seemingly missing person and ask the question, "And you are?..." This installment: Denise Matthews aka VANITY.

Throughout the '80s, Denise Matthews, who gained infamy as Vanity - the remarkably gorgeous girlfriend and pin-up protege of music icon Prince - was the proverbial wet dream. And a coked-out drug addict. By the mid-'90s, the former charismatic front woman for sex-drenched girl group Vanity 6 and part-time actress cheated death, put away the lingerie and became a Christian Evangelist (she heads the evangelical organization Pure Heart Ministries). So what gives? We tracked down Matthews, who is set to release self-published, tell-all memoir The Black Box, to find out what made the former nasty girl turn to God - and what it was like going toe-to-toe with the Purple One.


When you began going around the country to preach, was it hard for folks to get past the fact that you was the same chick that was moaning "Nasty Girl" in her underwear?
Getting past my past? Well, that was a process, a very serious process indeed. My God. As a person, [I'm] constantly changing, trying to be better. Back when I was Vanity, it was all about being sexy, getting slimmer, and getting cuter. Things have changed. Now it's not the outward appearance, it's the inward man that I'm trying to change. And that's the message I bring to the people.

How often do you get the 'Aren't you Vanity?' line?
[Laughs] You know, it depends on where I'm at. If I'm going into a different city, like in the Midwest or back East, I get it quite a bit. Where I live today [Fremont, California], I believe that God chose this place for me because I don't get a whole lot of people that recognize me. And that doesn't bother me. The ones that do recognize me, I always switch [the question] that they give me to salvation.

Your book is very open about your wild partying lifestyle and past cocaine abuse. At one point you were nearly on your deathbed in 1994, blind and deaf, after suffering a stroke, kidney failure and a heart attack. What do you say to the cynical bastard that thinks that most celebrities find religion when it's convenient?
Well, we all make the mistake of thinking, and I did too so many times, that God did this to us. But we kill ourselves and choose who we want to be. I put the drugs in my mouth, I did the fornication, I had all the lust, and I chose the way of "sex sells." I wanted to be famous and rich. I chose to be Vanity.


Matthews with Prince in 1983

Your turbulent romantic relationship with Prince, who gave you the name Vanity and created and produced Vanity 6, is the stuff of rock 'n' roll legend. Is it true that when you first met Prince at the American Music Awards in January of '82, that you arrived with Rick James and left with Mr. Nelson?
People have so many renditions of what I did [laughing]. I remember one time somebody said that the reason I left Prince was because I was having his baby [laughing]. Do they make this stuff up? You have to read my book to find out what really happened.

Are you shocked at Prince becoming a Jehovah's Witness? This from the same cat who basically inspired explicit lyrics stickers and was a walking sex act in high heels.
I believe that God is calling him (Prince) like he is calling many others. I cannot judge Prince's heart. Everything takes time, so my heart is just to pray for him and that he finds what he's looking for just as I pray for myself as I continue to find my own way because you can be on the path one day and then go off the wrong path the next.

Obviously, some fans are going to buy your book to read about your wild days as a sex symbol. But what do you really want readers to get out of The Black Box?
I think it's important to understand the title of my book. The black box is the only thing that survives a plane crash, and I want people to know that I'm a survivor. I go to wherever God calls me, wherever the church calls me to come to minister and preach the word of God. God told me, "Speak the kingdom of God with all your heart, mind, body, soul, and strength. . . seek the kingdom of God first." In the beginning I was planning on naming it Blame It On Vanity. . . Denise, but I wanted to separate myself from the sinful name that made me famous. Vanity means worthlessness, and that's the last thing I want to be known for. And I'm not worthless anymore. My name is Denise.
http://www.vibe.com/news/...re_vanity/
[Edited 6/30/07 11:45am]
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Reply #1 posted 06/30/07 11:51am

Efan

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Thanks for posting this!

I wish they would have posted a better picture. Was that just taken with a disposable camera while she was driving? My cell phone takes better pictures than that.

And calling herself a black box is sure to cause some laughs. But maybe that'll be good for promotion. I can't wait to read the book, but I'm hoping she talks a lot about the Prince days. I'll probably skip the salvation part.

Great post!
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Reply #2 posted 06/30/07 12:43pm

icke4presidant

i look forward to that book

nikki sixx said she made his life hell; i wonder is she'll say the same about prince wink OR was he affectionate behind close doors?
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Reply #3 posted 06/30/07 2:54pm

emilio319

Yes thanks for posting this, I had not seen this. Does anyone know when the book comes out? I gotta admit I'm curious to read the inside scoop on the Prince/Vanity 6 years.
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Reply #4 posted 06/30/07 3:20pm

Rhondab

YAY for Denise nod


If that's a recent picture...she looks GREAT! Healthy and Happy....
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Reply #5 posted 06/30/07 5:33pm

sosgemini

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Rhondab said:

YAY for Denise nod


If that's a recent picture...she looks GREAT! Healthy, Happy & Stoned....



nod
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Reply #6 posted 06/30/07 6:43pm

dustysgirl

Last Fall, she was having people pre-order her book. She was publishing it herself and said it was very expensive, so she was charging $200. I don't think it will ever really be in book stores.

I don't know the web site anymore because it wasn't on her web site. You had to give your name and number and she would call you so you could order the book through her.

I did it to see what would happen. She actually did call me and we talked for about a half hour or something. She even gave me her phone number, but I don't know what happened to it.

It was very surreal. The book was too expensive so I didn't order it.
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Reply #7 posted 06/30/07 9:07pm

Krystal666

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Wow thanks! This was interesting...I liked when she talked about how people blame God for alot of things in their life and their lifestyle but how she choose to be Vanity and have the experiences she did. I think her abusive past made it seem like those things like fame, drugs, sex, partying were the awnser because alot of people who were abused seek that sort of lifestyle but I admire how she found the strength to find peace with a healthier lifestyle.
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Reply #8 posted 07/01/07 4:23am

Rhondab

sosgemini said:

Rhondab said:

YAY for Denise nod


If that's a recent picture...she looks GREAT! Healthy, Happy & Stoned....



nod



she doesn't look stoned SOS..lawd...addin' stuff ...shake
[Edited 7/1/07 11:18am]
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Reply #9 posted 07/01/07 10:42am

MsLegs

cool
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Reply #10 posted 07/01/07 12:55pm

PurpleCharm

dustysgirl said:

Last Fall, she was having people pre-order her book. She was publishing it herself and said it was very expensive, so she was charging $200. I don't think it will ever really be in book stores.

I don't know the web site anymore because it wasn't on her web site. You had to give your name and number and she would call you so you could order the book through her.

I did it to see what would happen. She actually did call me and we talked for about a half hour or something. She even gave me her phone number, but I don't know what happened to it.

It was very surreal. The book was too expensive so I didn't order it.


Did she call you to tell you that the book was available for purchase?
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Reply #11 posted 07/01/07 1:09pm

ddsummer

PurpleCharm said:

I visit this forum pretty regularly and I don't recall seeing a thread about the interview. Sorry if this has already been posted.



And You Are?... Vanity of Vanity 6
By: Keith Murphy
POSTED: 10:44 EST, May 30, 2007

Every week, we locate a seemingly missing person and ask the question, "And you are?..." This installment: Denise Matthews aka VANITY.

Throughout the '80s, Denise Matthews, who gained infamy as Vanity - the remarkably gorgeous girlfriend and pin-up protege of music icon Prince - was the proverbial wet dream. And a coked-out drug addict. By the mid-'90s, the former charismatic front woman for sex-drenched girl group Vanity 6 and part-time actress cheated death, put away the lingerie and became a Christian Evangelist (she heads the evangelical organization Pure Heart Ministries). So what gives? We tracked down Matthews, who is set to release self-published, tell-all memoir The Black Box, to find out what made the former nasty girl turn to God - and what it was like going toe-to-toe with the Purple One.


When you began going around the country to preach, was it hard for folks to get past the fact that you was the same chick that was moaning "Nasty Girl" in her underwear?
Getting past my past? Well, that was a process, a very serious process indeed. My God. As a person, [I'm] constantly changing, trying to be better. Back when I was Vanity, it was all about being sexy, getting slimmer, and getting cuter. Things have changed. Now it's not the outward appearance, it's the inward man that I'm trying to change. And that's the message I bring to the people.

How often do you get the 'Aren't you Vanity?' line?
[Laughs] You know, it depends on where I'm at. If I'm going into a different city, like in the Midwest or back East, I get it quite a bit. Where I live today [Fremont, California], I believe that God chose this place for me because I don't get a whole lot of people that recognize me. And that doesn't bother me. The ones that do recognize me, I always switch [the question] that they give me to salvation.

Your book is very open about your wild partying lifestyle and past cocaine abuse. At one point you were nearly on your deathbed in 1994, blind and deaf, after suffering a stroke, kidney failure and a heart attack. What do you say to the cynical bastard that thinks that most celebrities find religion when it's convenient?
Well, we all make the mistake of thinking, and I did too so many times, that God did this to us. But we kill ourselves and choose who we want to be. I put the drugs in my mouth, I did the fornication, I had all the lust, and I chose the way of "sex sells." I wanted to be famous and rich. I chose to be Vanity.


Matthews with Prince in 1983

Your turbulent romantic relationship with Prince, who gave you the name Vanity and created and produced Vanity 6, is the stuff of rock 'n' roll legend. Is it true that when you first met Prince at the American Music Awards in January of '82, that you arrived with Rick James and left with Mr. Nelson?
People have so many renditions of what I did [laughing]. I remember one time somebody said that the reason I left Prince was because I was having his baby [laughing]. Do they make this stuff up? You have to read my book to find out what really happened.

Are you shocked at Prince becoming a Jehovah's Witness? This from the same cat who basically inspired explicit lyrics stickers and was a walking sex act in high heels.
I believe that God is calling him (Prince) like he is calling many others. I cannot judge Prince's heart. Everything takes time, so my heart is just to pray for him and that he finds what he's looking for just as I pray for myself as I continue to find my own way because you can be on the path one day and then go off the wrong path the next.

Obviously, some fans are going to buy your book to read about your wild days as a sex symbol. But what do you really want readers to get out of The Black Box?
I think it's important to understand the title of my book. The black box is the only thing that survives a plane crash, and I want people to know that I'm a survivor. I go to wherever God calls me, wherever the church calls me to come to minister and preach the word of God. God told me, "Speak the kingdom of God with all your heart, mind, body, soul, and strength. . . seek the kingdom of God first." In the beginning I was planning on naming it Blame It On Vanity. . . Denise, but I wanted to separate myself from the sinful name that made me famous. Vanity means worthlessness, and that's the last thing I want to be known for. And I'm not worthless anymore. My name is Denise.
http://www.vibe.com/news/...re_vanity/
[Edited 6/30/07 11:45am]


Denise is still very beatiful. I think she was very careful when answering questions about Prince.
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Reply #12 posted 07/01/07 3:56pm

Moonwalkbjrain

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great read, happy to know the book is still in the works...shes still so puurrddyy!!!
Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
...And i'm gonna be groovy in it!
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Reply #13 posted 07/02/07 12:41am

SoulAlive

interesting
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Reply #14 posted 07/02/07 3:20pm

dustysgirl

PurpleCharm said:

dustysgirl said:

Last Fall, she was having people pre-order her book. She was publishing it herself and said it was very expensive, so she was charging $200. I don't think it will ever really be in book stores.

I don't know the web site anymore because it wasn't on her web site. You had to give your name and number and she would call you so you could order the book through her.

I did it to see what would happen. She actually did call me and we talked for about a half hour or something. She even gave me her phone number, but I don't know what happened to it.

It was very surreal. The book was too expensive so I didn't order it.


Did she call you to tell you that the book was available for purchase?


She called to see if I wanted to preorder it. So basically, each person is paying for their book to be printed. She was only printing what people wanted. For $200, you get her autobiography and a second book of photos she's taken, artwork and a screenplay she had written.

She called my cell phone once and left a message with her number. Then called back a few minutes later to see if I had gotten her message yet. I planned on saving the message, but didn't know my service deleted it after 30 days.

I think this was in September, and she said that if I ordered it then, I would have it by Christmas.
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Reply #15 posted 07/03/07 4:29am

wlcm2thdwn

Cool, but this is very old news! smile
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Reply #16 posted 07/03/07 5:21am

RipHer2Shreds

wlcm2thdwn said:

Cool, but this is very old news! smile

The story was published May 30, 2007. That's hardly "very old news." lol
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Reply #17 posted 07/03/07 5:43am

suomynona

RipHer2Shreds said:

wlcm2thdwn said:

Cool, but this is very old news! smile

The story was published May 30, 2007. That's hardly "very old news." lol

What wlcm2thdwn meant to say is that she's old news.
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Reply #18 posted 07/03/07 5:44am

FlamingRaindro
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And You Are?... Vanity of Vanity 6
By: Keith Murphy
POSTED: 10:44 EST, May 30, 2007

Getting past my past? Well, that was a process, a very serious process indeed. My God. As a person, [I'm] constantly changing, trying to be better. Back when I was Vanity, it was all about being sexy, getting slimmer, and getting cuter. Things have changed. Now it's not the outward appearance, it's the inward man that I'm trying to change. And that's the message I bring to the people.



eek - whofarted - shocked
Dang! omg

I guess THAT answers some questions...

boxed
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Reply #19 posted 07/03/07 5:44am

PleasurePrinci
ple

cool,t4p.Im glad we atleast got somethin from her.
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Reply #20 posted 07/03/07 6:04am

irreverence

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What do you say to the cynical bastard that thinks that most celebrities find religion when it's convenient?
Well, we all make the mistake of thinking, and I did too so many times, that God did this to us. But we kill ourselves and choose who we want to be. I put the drugs in my mouth, I did the fornication, I had all the lust, and I chose the way of "sex sells." I wanted to be famous and rich. I chose to be Vanity.

I am the only one who thinks the dodges this question?? Or maybe she just misunderstands. A good question, though, but maybe I'm a "cynical bastard".

smile
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Reply #21 posted 07/03/07 7:52am

lastdecember

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theres still alot of rambling going on with her. Im glad she is healthy and all that, but the "I pray for him" stuff has got to go. Religion is so full of itself.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #22 posted 07/03/07 8:40am

DJJillMonroe

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irreverence said:

What do you say to the cynical bastard that thinks that most celebrities find religion when it's convenient?
Well, we all make the mistake of thinking, and I did too so many times, that God did this to us. But we kill ourselves and choose who we want to be. I put the drugs in my mouth, I did the fornication, I had all the lust, and I chose the way of "sex sells." I wanted to be famous and rich. I chose to be Vanity.

I am the only one who thinks the dodges this question?? Or maybe she just misunderstands. A good question, though, but maybe I'm a "cynical bastard".

smile



She actually answered the question quite well. She said she is responsible for the self destruction she put on herself by her own choices. But, she was given one more chance to clean herself up and she did. Thank God for grace.
Why You Jive Turkey You....
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Reply #23 posted 07/03/07 8:47am

BlackandRising

It's kinda funny she lives in Fremont, CA. I hate that place.
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Reply #24 posted 07/03/07 9:51am

xplnyrslf

irreverence said:

What do you say to the cynical bastard that thinks that most celebrities find religion when it's convenient?
Well, we all make the mistake of thinking, and I did too so many times, that God did this to us. But we kill ourselves and choose who we want to be. I put the drugs in my mouth, I did the fornication, I had all the lust, and I chose the way of "sex sells." I wanted to be famous and rich. I chose to be Vanity.

I am the only one who thinks the dodges this question?? Or maybe she just misunderstands. A good question, though, but maybe I'm a "cynical bastard".

smile


You're right, she doesn't answer the question.
The interviewer mentions she was on her deathbed in 1994 after having a stroke, kidney failure, and a heart attack. Sometimes after a stroke the mind isn't as sharp. smile

Not to mention the "pickling" that occurs with heavy drug use.
[Edited 7/3/07 9:52am]
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Reply #25 posted 07/03/07 11:10am

MikeMatronik

She has a beautiful smile.
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Reply #26 posted 07/03/07 11:24am

shaedove99

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DJJillMonroe said:

She actually answered the question quite well. She said she is responsible for the self destruction she put on herself by her own choices. But, she was given one more chance to clean herself up and she did. Thank God for grace.


I agree. nod
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Reply #27 posted 07/03/07 11:49am

uPtoWnNY

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nikki sixx said she made his life hell.....



Nikki Sixx is an a-hole. I saw concert footage of him calling a black security guard the n-word and encouraging the crowd to whip his n----r ass.
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Reply #28 posted 07/03/07 1:42pm

CLASSYLADY7117
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:touched:That's Gr8!S0 happy 4 her.visit [u]www.denisemattews.com
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Reply #29 posted 07/03/07 1:59pm

RUHip2TheJive

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FlamingRaindrop said:





And You Are?... Vanity of Vanity 6
By: Keith Murphy
POSTED: 10:44 EST, May 30, 2007

Getting past my past? Well, that was a process, a very serious process indeed. My God. As a person, [I'm] constantly changing, trying to be better. Back when I was Vanity, it was all about being sexy, getting slimmer, and getting cuter. Things have changed. Now it's not the outward appearance, it's the inward man that I'm trying to change. And that's the message I bring to the people.



eek - whofarted - shocked
Dang! omg

I guess THAT answers some questions...

boxed


giggle I noticed that too. I think it's a typo.
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