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Mayte in Prince's Music Videos I was watching "The Video Hits" of Prince yesterday, and I realized that Mayte was in alot of them. Exactly how many was she in- and what were they? And more importantly- why?!?! Seems as if she's always doing the same thing, dancing and/or stripping off her clothes.
I'd like to know ppl's opinion abt this. "So shall it be written, so shall it be sung..."  | |
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Awww, I like her in the videos, My favorite is morning papers because it was filmed here.
Others I have seen: 7 (of course) 18 & over otherwise I've just mostly seen the live performances she was in. | |
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All of them!  | |
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i dug the chemistry
between them sweetsexy meets hotgold | |
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i get the whole chemistry thing- but come on! she was everywhere. and her thin eyebrows annoy the hell outta me. "So shall it be written, so shall it be sung..." | |
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tznekbsbfrvr said: i get the whole chemistry thing- but come on! she was everywhere. and her thin eyebrows annoy the hell outta me.
Why wouldn't she be everywhere? She was a dancer in the band since the D&P tour, she was the love of his life, mother of his child, his wife, the subject that many of the songs were about, etc... what I found interesting was that Mani wasn't in any of them except a blink-and-miss-her part of Come On. |
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funny
i never got tired of seeing her with him her smile is magnetic, kinda like janet's she seemed 2 bring out the sunshine in prince | |
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jtfolden said: tznekbsbfrvr said: i get the whole chemistry thing- but come on! she was everywhere. and her thin eyebrows annoy the hell outta me.
Why wouldn't she be everywhere? She was a dancer in the band since the D&P tour, she was the love of his life, mother of his child, his wife, the subject that many of the songs were about, etc... what I found interesting was that Mani wasn't in any of them except a blink-and-miss-her part of Come On. really? she (Mani) was in a video? she doesn't have any camera appeal- in my opinion. "So shall it be written, so shall it be sung..." | |
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tznekbsbfrvr said: really? she (Mani) was in a video? she doesn't have any camera appeal- in my opinion. You're right, she doesn't... she just was a random girl in a street scene. |
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moderatorI guess Prince really saw something in her..wanted her energy around always..she is a beautiful person inside and out. Her smile can light up a room. | |
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Mayte was in Princes videos because she was everything. I truley think that she is who he was meant to be with. You NEVER seem any of Princes women like you did Mayte. She was at press conferences, videos, CD's dedicated to her. I think she was the ONE. Oh that is right Prince also wrote a song about that too. You never seem Mani any where ever. Ok some BB games and awards, never seem them any where else. Sorry I love Mayte. I think she has great talent and energy and that is what Prince needed. | |
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Mayte was P's inspiration for so long AND she was a part of the band, so why wouldn't she be in the videos? 
Smooches;) | |
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It's interesting to me that because Mayte was ubiquitous during her time with Prince that people assume she was the love of his life. I've always just looked at her as part of "the act" during her period with Prince & the NPG. I don't think the conspicuousness of her presence is an indication of the depth of his love for her. I'm not saying that he wasn't consumed with Mayte at the time, because it is apparent that he was in love with her. But it almost bordered on obsession to me, more like a kid with a new toy. I sometimes got the feeling that he was more obesessed with the idea of Mayte that he created than anything.
It always seemed to me that some of Prince's longer-lasting, more serious relationships were far more inconspicuous. The women were there, but they weren't everywhere. He didn’t put those relationships on blast, they weren't a part of the act so much. He seemed to keep those relationships a bit more private like Susan, Sheila E, Nona Gaye, Susannah and Mani. That's just my observation. His relationship with Vanity was more public, but I think that was because it was at a different time in his life as he was starting his ascent up the pop star ladder. So that relationship helped to create his persona. That said Vanity still wasn’t everywhere. I think he still tried to keep part of that relationship private, because there seemed to be some deep feelings there. I think there has been and will continue to be speculation on who was the love of Prince’s life, but only he really knows that. Also, who says that he, or any of us for that matter, has to be limited to one love of his life? Maybe at one time Mayte, Mani, Vanity, Sheila E., Susan, Susannah and Nona Gaye were each the love of his life, because they each affected him differently at different stages of his life. -grammar edit- [Edited 5/10/07 11:17am] perfection is a fallacy of the imagination... | |
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All I know is that only Susannah and Mayte were so pervasive in every aspect of Prince's career and life. I really don't think Sheila E or Nona Gaye, etc, quite fall into the same category. |
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okay okay... sheez. i learned my lesson. think twice b4 starting a new topic on the org. u guys are brutal.  "So shall it be written, so shall it be sung..." | |
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jtfolden said: All I know is that only Susannah and Mayte were so pervasive in every aspect of Prince's career and life. I really don't think Sheila E or Nona Gaye, etc, quite fall into the same category.
What do you mean by "pervasive in every aspect of Prine's career and life?" That's a pretty far-reaching statement. I was trying to offer an alternate perspective to respond to the remark about Mani not being in videos. My point is that I don't think that, for example, because Mani, Sheila E. and Nona weren't everywhere that they weren't a big parts of Prince's life when he was with them. Maybe Mani wasn't a part of the show, because at that point in his life he wanted to keep that relationship more sacred. They were together longer than any of Prince's previous relationships, so it would be crazy to dismiss their marriage because she wasn't in videos. Also, we don't know the extent to his relationship with Sheila E. because they were both very private at that time. However, we do know that they were engaged and that they have maintained a personal and professional relationship for decades. So when it's all said and done, none of us really knows who meant what, because we're not in Prince's mind or heart. perfection is a fallacy of the imagination... | |
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bellanoche said: What do you mean by "pervasive in every aspect of Prine's career and life?" That's a pretty far-reaching statement.
I'm not quite sure how that statement is unclear if you know what pervasive means. |
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jtfolden said: bellanoche said: What do you mean by "pervasive in every aspect of Prine's career and life?" That's a pretty far-reaching statement.
I'm not quite sure how that statement is unclear if you know what pervasive means. I'm not an idiot, I know what pervasive means. What is unclear is how you mean that they were pervasive in "every aspect of Prince's life and career." How can anyone be pervasive in EVERY aspect of someone's life and career? It's not possible. That's a very broad statement, so I thought you could clarify it, i.e. narrow the scope of your claim. However, it's obvious that you lack the ability to do that, so I'll put the nail in the coffin. Peace! perfection is a fallacy of the imagination... | |
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..On the one hand, when you listen to the songs that Prince wrote for Mayte (especially ones from emancipation) it sounds as though he was truly devoted to her. From when he first saw her belly dancing in a video tape he was hooked, and we know this as she has been the subject of several songs and videos ever since...
But who is to say that he didn't hold that level of devotion to his other lovers and girlfriends, as has been said before, we can never really know what is in his mind. A bit from a BBC documentary just popped into my head "like a musical 007, there have been as many Prince Girls as Bond Girls" or something like that! Maybe he has written beautiful love songs about the others but they are in the vault and have not been released! Sounds like a real man to me...mind if I turn on the radio? | |
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bellanoche said: I'm not an idiot, I know what pervasive means. What is unclear is how you mean that they were pervasive in "every aspect of Prince's life and career." How can anyone be pervasive in EVERY aspect of someone's life and career? It's not possible. That's a very broad statement, so I thought you could clarify it, i.e. narrow the scope of your claim. However, it's obvious that you lack the ability to do that, so I'll put the nail in the coffin. Peace!
You know what they say about assumptions... Mayte was literally everywhere. At the concerts, in the videos, on his records, on his arm at personal appearances, speaking for him in interviews, being his mouth piece in general, etc, etc... became his wife and mother to his child... being his overall inspiration for things (and this was even talked about in the 3 Chains O' Gold video) and the list goes on. Granted, I'm sure she didn't follow him into the bathroom but you're misunderstanding the word if you think pervasive equates with 100%. However, from everything that we saw during that period, she was there in a way like no other. |
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jtfolden said: Mayte ... However, from everything that we saw during that period, she was there in a way like no other.
It seems to me, Mayte was so visible because that is what Prince wanted his persona to be; happily in love. Remember he was in his 30's... a little late to want to settle down and start a family... but hey Prince had more to do and play with than the average joe. Also, as a dancer Mayte was no more visible in videos or on albums than Cat. They both played the same role, a dancer in NPG band and appeared in several videos as dancers. Prince just happened to fall deeply in love with Mayte... not saying he didn't have a relationship with Cat... but seemed to be more in love with Mayte. And that could be because Mayte was so young when Prince met her, she was more maleable to his "ideal" woman. Cat was grown when Prince met her. Plus, Mayte physically seemed more Prince's type. (again not saying that Nona, Robin and Cat were not attractive to Prince because they were,... but Mayte with the long dark hair, dark eyes and olive skin color (and racially ambiguous) is in a long line of dark beauties that have attracted Prince (Vanity, Shelia E, Anna Fantastic, Troy Breyer,Susan to name a few). Now Mayte being so visible as his girlfriend/wife in songs... she is not the only one... Susannah, Jill Jones, Vanity, and Susan (V6) also had songs written about them. I think Prince and Mayte got together when Prince was really embracing being in love, fatherhood, marriage etc. Not that Mayte was more special... it was just in that time in Prince's life.... he was where he wanted to be in life and Mayte just happened to be the woman he chose to share that experience with. When the moment passed, so did she. Same with Mani... It seems Prince wanted to experience "pure love" in a biblical sense....joined JW, changed words to songs, banned songs... etc. Mani was down with JW, also physically his type and spiritually attractive to him and so she was the woman Prince chose to share THAT experience with. When that moment passed, so did she.  [Edited 5/11/07 23:01pm] "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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tznekbsbfrvr said: I was watching "The Video Hits" of Prince yesterday, and I realized that Mayte was in alot of them. Exactly how many was she in- and what were they? And more importantly- why?!?! Seems as if she's always doing the same thing, dancing and/or stripping off her clothes.
I'd like to know ppl's opinion abt this. That was her job, that was any woman's job when they were with Prince, except I don't think Mani was playing that stuff!  [Edited 5/12/07 4:52am] | |
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I wholeheartedly regret ever starting this topic. "So shall it be written, so shall it be sung..." | |
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tznekbsbfrvr said: I wholeheartedly regret ever starting this topic.
why? "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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prodigalfan said: tznekbsbfrvr said: I wholeheartedly regret ever starting this topic.
why? b/c of the comments i'm getting. there's a tone of "is the girl stupid for asking this?" that lies in many of the responses. "So shall it be written, so shall it be sung..." | |
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prodigalfan said: It seems to me, Mayte was so visible because that is what Prince wanted his persona to be; happily in love. Remember he was in his 30's... a little late to want to settle down and start a family... but hey Prince had more to do and play with than the average joe.
Sure, it's just impossible to say whether he fell in love FIRST and then decided to reveal that image to the world or the other way around, so all we can go by is what we see ourselves for the sake if discussion. Also, as a dancer Mayte was no more visible in videos or on albums than Cat.
Well, she was more visible in the sense of her longevity. Mayte was in the picture from 1992 to 1999 or so, approximately 7 years. No one has ever been involved that much for that long, especially across multiple eras like that. And that could be because Mayte was so young when Prince met her, she was more maleable to his "ideal" woman.
I think that certainly has a lot to do with it, for all the attributes Mayte brought to the table - an importantt one had to be the malleability of innocence and youth. Now Mayte being so visible as his girlfriend/wife in songs... she is not the only one... Susannah, Jill Jones, Vanity, and Susan (V6) also had songs written about them.
..but again, the longevity of it is part of the difference. Mayte had staying power, for whatever reason... and while I know of a lot of songs attributed to Susannah, I can't think of any measurable number about the others off the top of my head. Honestly, we can't even be sure how many off the last 3 albums are even about Mani. He's always written songs about the women in his life but those about Mayte seemed to come one after the other for years and years. I think Prince and Mayte got together when Prince was really embracing being in love, fatherhood, marriage etc. Not that Mayte was more special... it was just in that time in Prince's life.... he was where he wanted to be in life and Mayte just happened to be the woman he chose to share that experience with.
I guess that's too subjective for me to make a real call on. He was engaged more than once and they all fell through until Mayte. Unless he ever comes forward we'll never know the reason for that. |
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jtfolden said: I guess that's too subjective for me to make a real call on. He was engaged more than once and they all fell through until Mayte. Unless he ever comes forward we'll never know the reason for that. Mayte was going to have Prince's baby.  [Edited 5/13/07 10:43am] "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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prodigalfan said: jtfolden said: Mayte ... However, from everything that we saw during that period, she was there in a way like no other.
It seems to me, Mayte was so visible because that is what Prince wanted his persona to be; happily in love. Remember he was in his 30's... a little late to want to settle down and start a family... but hey Prince had more to do and play with than the average joe. Also, as a dancer Mayte was no more visible in videos or on albums than Cat. They both played the same role, a dancer in NPG band and appeared in several videos as dancers. Prince just happened to fall deeply in love with Mayte... not saying he didn't have a relationship with Cat... but seemed to be more in love with Mayte. And that could be because Mayte was so young when Prince met her, she was more maleable to his "ideal" woman. Cat was grown when Prince met her. Plus, Mayte physically seemed more Prince's type. (again not saying that Nona, Robin and Cat were not attractive to Prince because they were,... but Mayte with the long dark hair, dark eyes and olive skin color (and racially ambiguous) is in a long line of dark beauties that have attracted Prince (Vanity, Shelia E, Anna Fantastic, Troy Breyer,Susan to name a few). Now Mayte being so visible as his girlfriend/wife in songs... she is not the only one... Susannah, Jill Jones, Vanity, and Susan (V6) also had songs written about them. I think Prince and Mayte got together when Prince was really embracing being in love, fatherhood, marriage etc. Not that Mayte was more special... it was just in that time in Prince's life.... he was where he wanted to be in life and Mayte just happened to be the woman he chose to share that experience with. When the moment passed, so did she. Same with Mani... It seems Prince wanted to experience "pure love" in a biblical sense....joined JW, changed words to songs, banned songs... etc. Mani was down with JW, also physically his type and spiritually attractive to him and so she was the woman Prince chose to share THAT experience with. When that moment passed, so did she.
[Edited 5/11/07 23:01pm]  Thank you. I knew I could not have been the only person who viewed their relationship this way. I think that some Mayte fans are so enamored with her that it clouds their perception of his time with her. As you said, Prince was a man in his 30s at that point and Mayte was a young, pliable, teenaged virgin. Could it get any better for a man like Prince at that time in his life? As I said, I think he had an idea of her that he created along with the usual feelings that accompany the 30s regarding marriage, children, family and the future.
I just never saw how Mayte was anymore PERVASIVE than anyone else in her role as a dancer/member of the band or inspiration. At different times, Cat, Vanity, Sheila E. and Susannah accompanied Prine places, was his mouthpiece, were on stage with him, etc. And surely, Prince wrote many beautiful love songs long before he met Mayte, which were probably inspired by the many "Prince girls" who had touched him during their time together. "Call My Name" was a deep and heartfelt as anything he wrote for Mayte. So I'll say it again, I don't thnk that anyone can say who Prince's true love or soul mate was, is, or will be. perfection is a fallacy of the imagination... | |
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jtfolden said: ..but again, the longevity of it is part of the difference. Mayte had staying power, for whatever reason... and while I know of a lot of songs attributed to Susannah, I can't think of any measurable number about the others off the top of my head. Honestly, we can't even be sure how many off the last 3 albums are even about Mani. He's always written songs about the women in his life but those about Mayte seemed to come one after the other for years and years. I have a question about longevity. Wasn't Mani around for eight or nine years from 1998 - 2006/7? I know he first started thanking her in his albums in 1998 with the New Power Soul album, then it continued into the Rave album and they were married not long after that album. So who knows how many of those Mayte songs were just about Mayte? We know there was definite overlap with Nona and Mayte. He also told Nona's friends that he was going to marry her, but he ended up marrying Mayte. At the end of the day who knows about any of this stuff. I will agree with you that until he speaks, it's all speculation. perfection is a fallacy of the imagination... | |
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