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Reply #30 posted 04/10/06 7:59am

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prodigalfan said:



As usual great post Jedi. I can tell you really put a lot of thought into your posts.


Why thank you!!!! smile
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Reply #31 posted 04/10/06 8:01am

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Heiress said:




Did you ever note the physical resemblance between Elvis and Lord Byron? I must have talked about it before... Paglia wrote a couple of pages about that in Sexual Personae, noting that Elvis demonstrated a sort of "archetypal male beauty." All the Duran boys kind of do, in different ways.


hmmm Now that you mention it, I DO see the resemblance. Never thought of it before.
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Reply #32 posted 04/10/06 8:02am

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Heiress said:

Hmm, just had a thought... could these guys be cousins?





...and this guy too!

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Reply #33 posted 04/10/06 8:12am

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While on the subject, I think some sort of nod needs to go to another "grandfather" of the New Romantics, Mr. Jim Morrison:



The guy was obsessed with many of the Romantic writers, and was practically Dionysis incarnate. The members of Duran Duran (especially Simon), and Adam Ant have all cited The Doors as a huge influence.



In fact, I think a case could be made for ALL the members of The Doors being early forerunners of the New Romantic movement.
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Reply #34 posted 04/10/06 8:14am

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JediMaster said:

Heiress said:

Hmm, just had a thought... could these guys be cousins?





...and this guy too!



...but Nick is even PURTIER...batting eyes I think I need to "borrow" that picture. wink

Got together w/ my "research director" to touch base this afternoon... showed him all these Adam Ant & Duran Duran videos I've been working on - he hadn't seen them before (wha?? eek ) and thought they were great fun. He's really quite excited about this paper. Essentially my thesis is "Why the New Romantics do not suck." lol I've come to realize that I'm just fed up with defending them from insult all the time. smile
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Reply #35 posted 04/10/06 8:18am

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JediMaster said:

While on the subject, I think some sort of nod needs to go to another "grandfather" of the New Romantics, Mr. Jim Morrison:



The guy was obsessed with many of the Romantic writers, and was practically Dionysis incarnate. The members of Duran Duran (especially Simon), and Adam Ant have all cited The Doors as a huge influence.



In fact, I think a case could be made for ALL the members of The Doors being early forerunners of the New Romantic movement.


Yessiree! Were you spying on our discussion this afternoon? smile

And therein lies another important point... a lot of the NRs lack of credibility is probably due to their longevity. They simply will not die (no matter how far they abuse their bodies with drugs, sailboats, etc); so here they are forced to age, wrinkle, and that's simply not glamorous or Romantic. Now a guy like Morrison's youthful angst is essentially preserved in dry ice. D2 and Prince, say, have to age, mate, buy real estate... lol
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Reply #36 posted 04/10/06 8:59am

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Heiress said:

JediMaster said:

While on the subject, I think some sort of nod needs to go to another "grandfather" of the New Romantics, Mr. Jim Morrison:



The guy was obsessed with many of the Romantic writers, and was practically Dionysis incarnate. The members of Duran Duran (especially Simon), and Adam Ant have all cited The Doors as a huge influence.



In fact, I think a case could be made for ALL the members of The Doors being early forerunners of the New Romantic movement.


Yessiree! Were you spying on our discussion this afternoon? smile

And therein lies another important point... a lot of the NRs lack of credibility is probably due to their longevity. They simply will not die (no matter how far they abuse their bodies with drugs, sailboats, etc); so here they are forced to age, wrinkle, and that's simply not glamorous or Romantic. Now a guy like Morrison's youthful angst is essentially preserved in dry ice. D2 and Prince, say, have to age, mate, buy real estate... lol


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Reply #37 posted 04/12/06 5:56am

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speaking of new romantics... just noticed something odd...

at the end of adam ant's video "prince charming," he does this little dance w/ the ballroom full of people... that quite resembles prince's little dance w/ his band at the end of "when doves cry."

anybody else ever notice this? and can anyone shed some light on the subject... hmmm
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Reply #38 posted 04/12/06 7:40am

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speaking of new romantics... just noticed something odd...

at the end of adam ant's video "prince charming," he does this little dance w/ the ballroom full of people... that quite resembles prince's little dance w/ his band at the end of "when doves cry."

anybody else ever notice this? and can anyone shed some light on the subject... hmmm


I noticed that too, but I have no idea if it was Prince taking a page from Adam, or if it's just a coincidence. Judging from Prince's look, circa the 1999 album, he was certainly influenced by Adam Ant. To what extent is debatable, but I think there is definitely a dash of Adam's stuff in Prince (and, interestigly enough, Prince would later influence Adam).
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Reply #39 posted 04/12/06 7:47am

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Heiress said:

speaking of new romantics... just noticed something odd...

at the end of adam ant's video "prince charming," he does this little dance w/ the ballroom full of people... that quite resembles prince's little dance w/ his band at the end of "when doves cry."

anybody else ever notice this? and can anyone shed some light on the subject... hmmm


Like this? (Not a straight-jacket, but a promo for "Strip," which got him banned from the BBC)...

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Reply #40 posted 04/13/06 3:11am

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eek I've never thought of comparing Adam Ant to Prince, but now that you mention it, i definitely do see it! Thanks!

Heiress, can I ask what you are studying, if you get to write theses on New romantics?! My thesis will be a lot more boring neutral
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Reply #41 posted 04/13/06 6:50am

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eek I've never thought of comparing Adam Ant to Prince, but now that you mention it, i definitely do see it! Thanks!

Heiress, can I ask what you are studying, if you get to write theses on New romantics?! My thesis will be a lot more boring neutral


well, this year's program is the renaissance, actually. smile but my writing is in the domain of civilization... and that can be almost anything. right now i'm explaining the artistic and historical relevance of the new romantics. i took the renaissance course instead of the 20th century option, because i thought i needed to know more about that period. and it is actually playing a role in my thesis, which is cool.

by the way, brought 3121 for my advisor to hear the other day... he was dancing! lol
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Reply #42 posted 04/14/06 4:34am

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susannah said:

eek I've never thought of comparing Adam Ant to Prince, but now that you mention it, i definitely do see it! Thanks!

Heiress, can I ask what you are studying, if you get to write theses on New romantics?! My thesis will be a lot more boring neutral


well, this year's program is the renaissance, actually. smile but my writing is in the domain of civilization... and that can be almost anything. right now i'm explaining the artistic and historical relevance of the new romantics. i took the renaissance course instead of the 20th century option, because i thought i needed to know more about that period. and it is actually playing a role in my thesis, which is cool.

by the way, brought 3121 for my advisor to hear the other day... he was dancing! lol


Interesting stuff! biggrin
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Reply #43 posted 04/14/06 5:15am

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well, this year's program is the renaissance, actually. smile but my writing is in the domain of civilization... and that can be almost anything. right now i'm explaining the artistic and historical relevance of the new romantics. i took the renaissance course instead of the 20th century option, because i thought i needed to know more about that period. and it is actually playing a role in my thesis, which is cool.

by the way, brought 3121 for my advisor to hear the other day... he was dancing! lol


Interesting stuff! biggrin


so, why not write about new romantics for school? "come and join our insect nation!" smile
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Reply #44 posted 04/14/06 5:29am

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susannah said:



Interesting stuff! biggrin


so, why not write about new romantics for school? "come and join our insect nation!" smile


I doubt the Built Environment Department would find the New Romantics relevant to my course Im afraid! I study Building Surveying! But enjoy your research! lol
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Reply #45 posted 04/14/06 6:05am

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Heiress said:



so, why not write about new romantics for school? "come and join our insect nation!" smile


I doubt the Built Environment Department would find the New Romantics relevant to my course Im afraid! I study Building Surveying! But enjoy your research! lol


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that's what my brother did, actually. smile
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