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Thread started 02/22/06 11:54am

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The OFFICIAL "Everything You Want To Know About TAMAR (and more)" thread!!!

We need a TAMAR FAQ on this site, so in the meantime, can we start a little bit of information flowing on this thread? There was a profile on her that someone posted on here a while back, with her history and whatnot - anyone have that?
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Reply #1 posted 02/22/06 12:21pm

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Anx said:

We need a TAMAR FAQ on this site, so in the meantime, can we start a little bit of information flowing on this thread? There was a profile on her that someone posted on here a while back, with her history and whatnot - anyone have that?


I read somewhere on housequake.com that Ta'mar use to be a part of Girl Tyme aka(Destinys Child). She was also a contestant on Star Search, but lost. Before she met Prince her occupation was an music teacher. If you google search you may find the same article I read about Tamar on housequake.
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Reply #2 posted 02/22/06 1:18pm

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she was a teacher ? how old is tamar
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Reply #3 posted 02/22/06 4:18pm

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Tamar is Ashley Tamar Davis. The first known involvement between her and Prince was when Prince wanted to sign the group she was in, Girls Tyme (which also included future Destiny's Child members Beyonce Knowles, Kelly Rowland and Latavia Roberson) to Paisley Park Records in 1992 as the below link to an archived article at the Houston Chronicle website describes:

http://www.chron.com/CDA/...92_1074953

Ashley Davis turned up a couple of years later on an unreleased (but apparently widely bootlegged) Prince outtake "On Your Own" in 1994.

She also appeared on Star Search. Here is her artist profile and the results page:

http://www.cbs.com/primet...hley_davis

http://kgbt.cbsnow.com/pr...?dt=041603

She was part of an all-female band named Angaza as well along with the current drummer for the Prince/Tamar shows Cora Coleman. Here is a link to their website:

http://www.angazamusic.com/

As far as I know she started showing up with Prince again at last year's NAACP Image Awards and at various 3121 parties which brings us to this point.

And oh, by the way, Tamar also attended HSPVA (High School for the Performing and Visual Arts) in Houston. Here is her student profile, also from the Houston Chronicle website:

http://www.chron.com/cont...ofile.html



ASHLEY TA'MAR DAVIS
High School for the Performing and Visual Arts
Grade: Senior.

Activities: National Honor Society, Business Professionals of America, Young Performers and Top Teens of America.

Awards: NAACP Act-So Gold Medalist, Presidential Scholar nominee and Level I arts winner.

About me: I enjoy performing and meeting new people.

Favorite celebrity: Vanessa L. Williams -- She's humble and dedicated.

Favorite school subject: Jazz Fundamentals class.

What's great about school: Everyone at my school cares about the arts and entertainment industry.

Dreamed-about vacation: Jamaica -- I want to view pretty, clear water and to see a beautiful island full of entertainment.

Memorable moment: My appearance on Showtime at the Apollo in New York City.

Most influential person in my life: My mother, Carolyn Oairs. She helps me to stay focused, to continue and persevere.

Life's plan: If God allows, I would like to have a No. 1 selling album in the United States, Europe and elsewhere. If not, I plan to attend either Syracuse University, Howard University, University of Miami or University of Southern California. I would major in theater and music. Later, I would like to own a record company.
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Reply #4 posted 02/22/06 4:37pm

dewalliz

What an impressive background that she have. I didnt know she was a school teacher. I guess working with Prince is the break she waiting for. biggrin
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Reply #5 posted 02/22/06 4:46pm

MikeMatronik

She's not our typical protegee... wink She not on the Mayte/Carmen/Apples league!

Guess she'll became a sheila or a W&L cool
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Reply #6 posted 02/23/06 6:35am

PurpleCharm

She was a teacher? If she was, she didn't teacher very long. She is only about 24 years old.
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Reply #7 posted 02/23/06 8:42am

PurpleCharm

Well, I see she did go to college and pledged the sorority Delta Sigma Theta. I ran across this on a google search:

"Congrats to Soror Ashley (Tamar) Davis (#5, Sp. 00) on her recent perfomance of her songs "Fury" and "Beautiful, Loved and Blessed" with the legendary Prince on Saturday Night Live. Her showing on one of the most well-known stages in American culture is sure to push her career to the next level and above.

You've made it, Soror! May you have continued success in the future."

http://dst1924.com/modules/news/
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Reply #8 posted 02/23/06 5:16pm

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where are you seeing that she was a teacher? the only thing see is this:

What's great about school: Everyone at my school cares about the arts and entertainment industry.

which means she is talking about her classmates at the performing arts school.
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Reply #9 posted 02/23/06 5:23pm

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thanks for making this a sticky. i am the one who posted the info on tamar awhile back, but for some reason, the thread got deleted. i tried going to it a few days back, and it was deleted...didnt get to see why
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Reply #10 posted 02/23/06 10:10pm

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txladykat said:

thanks for making this a sticky. i am the one who posted the info on tamar awhile back, but for some reason, the thread got deleted. i tried going to it a few days back, and it was deleted...didnt get to see why


txladykat, was this the Tamar profile you posted that got deleted? If so you also posted it at HQ, so if you don't mind I took the liberty of dragging and dropping it over here in this thread. BTW, I don't know where people got the info from that Tamar was a teacher either. I haven't been able to find an article anywhere that says that, so maybe if someone can find it (if it exists) they can post a link.

Ashley has been singing, acting and dancing since the age of 3 in her hometown of Houston, Texas. She is the 2004 NAACP Nominee in the category for Best Lead Female Actress and former Miss Black Texas Teen 1997-98. Besides singing with ANGAZA, she has been the featured vocalist on Lee Ritenour's "Twist of Motown" tour. She has also performed with Gerald Albright and Phil Perry at 94.7 The Wave jazz concerts. As a background vocalist she has performed with Celine Dion, Yolanda Adams, Rev. Donnie McClurkin and CeCe Winans, to name a few. Ashley is also an accomplished actress and has performed in numerous plays, musicals, on television and in motion pictures.

Birthplace:
Houston, Texas.

Siblings:
I have one older (Nolan Jay), one younger (Sean) brother and 2 older half-sisters (Shell and Chaquita). My 2 brothers live in LA.

Pets:
No, but well, I have to say that my baby brother Sean is my pet! He keeps me laughing all the time.

Did you grow up playing music?
I started singing in public at age 3; I started when I was a baby. My first performance was at the Baby Singing Contest at age 3. I sang, "Believe in yourself" from WIZ.

First concert you attended:
I was 14 years old; I went to see Boyz to Men, Babyface and En Vogue.

First album you bought:
"My way" by Usher. How hot is he!
And now he is back with a hot album when people said that he couldn't do it. Usher to me has no gimmick: He can sing and at the end of the day, that's what will keep him going. He sings from his heart and when he takes the stage he captures you from beginning to end. I look forward to doing a duet with him.

Musical influences:
Growing up I loved Michael Jackson, Janet Jackson, Whitney Houston, Babyface, Yolanda Adams, Celine Dion, Lauryn Hill, Roberta Flack and Chaka Khan, Sting

Favorite instrument:
My favorite instrument is the guitar. I've taken a few lessons and I'm learning how to play. I like the sound that the guitar adds to music because it takes you away to far places and it makes you groove. You don't need a pianist or a drummer to get the vibe of any song led by a guitar.

Favorite song/album:
My favorite songs are "Almost Doesn't Count " by Brandy and "When You Believe' from the Prince of Egypt soundtrack by Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey.

Musical guilty pleasure:
I like Sting and one of my favorite songs for me to get wild and crazy is Prince's "Kiss."

Favorite movie:
Sound of Music - I love the melodies on the sound track.
Little Rascals - because they are cute and bad, and they act so grown up.

Favorite kind of food:
French fries, Flamin' Hot Cheetos, Chicken Caesar Salad - I eat it almost every day.

If you weren't a musician, what would you be?
I would say it would be either a WNBA Coach because after playing basketball with my little brother, I've learned that it really challenges your workout skills. I would also like to be a Ballerina because I've taken ballet all of my life and I would like to be in The Nutcracker at least once.


[Edited 2/23/06 22:13pm]
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Reply #11 posted 02/24/06 8:20am

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thanks red, yes, i posted it here, HQ and npgmc...i dont know if i posted the chron article on hq, but i am pretty sure i did on here as well as at npgmc.
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Reply #12 posted 02/24/06 1:35pm

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txladykat said:

thanks red, yes, i posted it here, HQ and npgmc...i dont know if i posted the chron article on hq, but i am pretty sure i did on here as well as at npgmc.


Yes, you did. And here it is again courtesy of txladykat:

Paper: HOUSTON CHRONICLE
Date: TUE 08/18/1992
Section: Houston
Page: 1
Edition: 2 STAR

GIRLS TYME/OK guys, step aside. Six Houston preteens figure it's their turn for success in the music business

By CHERYL LAIRD
Staff

THE way these kids figure it, we've seen enough teen-age boys who can hit the high notes and grind their hips in unison.

So, farewell New Edition and New Kids on the Block. So long Kriss Kross, Another Bad Creation and Hi-Five. "Hasta la vista" Boyz II Men and Jodeci.

Meet Girls Tyme. These six Houston preteens can blend soaring harmonies, deliver gritty rap solos and pump out grooving dance moves. And they're not boys.

"We hope to be the No. 1 girls group and send positive messages and bring people to see what we're talking about and make this world a better place," singer Ashley Davis, 12, explains in one breath.

It's an expansive goal, considering Ashley and her friends have yet to make a record. And, since they're girls, the road to success is likely to be all the more tough.

With notable exceptions such as En Vogue and TLC, today's popular sing-and-dance groups are dominated by guys.

"Most of the big groups are guy groups. I don't know if it's because they have more opportunities or if they have more appeal," says Greg Head, music director for contemporary-hits radio KBXX (97.9-FM).

But the time may be right for girl groups. Three weeks ago KBXX began playing a song called "Yeah, Yeah, Yeah!" by Voices, a group of 12-year-old girls. Head says the phone has been ringing with requests from young listeners.

Girls Tyme's producer and songwriter, Alonzo Jackson, says pop superstar Prince has called twice about wanting to record the group on his Paisley Park record label. (Prince's publicist says nothing is official.)

"They are very talented, I mean, extremely talented. They seem to be on their way up," says Howard Harris, founder of the People's Workshop of Houston, a non-profit educational organization that promotes the local performing arts.

But the six members of Girls Tyme aren't spending time dwelling on business opportunities. They stay busy juggling school and social schedules with up to six hours of dance-and-song practice per day.

In addition to Ashley, group members are singers Beyonce Knowles, 10, and Kelly Rowland, 11, and dancers/rappers Latavia Roberson, 10, Nikki Taylor, 13, and her sister Nina Taylor, 11.

They go to five different Houston-area schools. All are honor-roll students from middle-class families.

Until a year ago, most of them didn't know each other. They were selected from more than 30 girls who auditioned in July 1991 for a group of women, including present manager Ann Tillman, who thought there was a market for a girls' group.

Since then, the girls -- now best friends -- have performed at the Black Expo, the Miss Black Houston Metroplex pageant, AstroWorld and a Dallas high school, opening for rapper Yo-Yo. Their biggest gig to date was the 1992 Sammy Davis Jr. Awards Saturday night at the Wortham Center.

Their songs, written by Jackson and Tony Moore, combine rhythm and blues, rap and pop. Most are innocent ditties about boys and world unity.

The girls design most of their own choreography, which combines tough, aggressive, hip-pumping dance moves in unison with soulful solos to the audience. Beyonce, who isn't yet allowed to date, once pulled a preteen boy onstage for an eye-to-eye serenade before releasing him, embarrassed but grinning, to his seat.

They are cool-headed for young girls, responding to questions with complete sentences, lots of smiles and only a few giggles. They count as among their favorite performers En Vogue, Michael Jackson and Hammer, but, in classic professional form, hesitate to catalog themselves.

"We have our own style," lead rapper Latavia explains.
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Reply #13 posted 02/25/06 5:15pm

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FYI, if you are excited about Tamar and are tired of all the Tamar bashing that goes on at Prince fan boards, Tamar has her own forum now connected to her official website that can be accessed directly at this link:

http://www.tamaronline.co.../index.php
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Reply #14 posted 02/25/06 8:46pm

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Tamar is likeable, she could do an album. If she got her HAIR done like Brandy braided and maybe mixed-dyed(?) like Christina Aguilera and hanging LONG like Naomi Campbell she’d be more stunning to look at, do y’all get my idea? She doesn’t need any dance routine. she doesn’t need the ‘bling’ either. she doesn’t have to play an instrument, puke her life story or do like other ego-trippy celebs who have something to say about everything and so-and-so… Prince chose her clothes (NPG?), direct her musical message and style, that’s fine… hmmm, I don’t want her confused with Mani, tho? I trust Prince 110%; if HE believes in her, so do i! I can’t wait for the WORLD TOUR, don’t keep us waiting too long. Anyways, lucky her! I hope she has fun and takes the fame easy peasy. I just prefer the music, the singer/performer and the songs, WITHOUT publicity, hype, I don’t want music to get lost in melo-drama ANYMORE! especially females in the industry; no-more baggage! we’ve had enough already! Keep it simple, clean, liberated, fair and honest. Is that too much to ask for these days?
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Reply #15 posted 02/25/06 9:37pm

PurpleCharm

redflag said:

FYI, if you are excited about Tamar and are tired of all the Tamar bashing that goes on at Prince fan boards, Tamar has her own forum now connected to her official website that can be accessed directly at this link:

http://www.tamaronline.co.../index.php


Thanks so much for the link. I am definitely sick of the unwarranted Tamar bashing.

I am having trouble getting onto the main site. I downloaded the lastest version of Flash, but I still can't get in, other than the forum page. sad
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Reply #16 posted 02/25/06 9:58pm

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PurpleCharm said:

redflag said:

FYI, if you are excited about Tamar and are tired of all the Tamar bashing that goes on at Prince fan boards, Tamar has her own forum now connected to her official website that can be accessed directly at this link:

http://www.tamaronline.co.../index.php


Thanks so much for the link. I am definitely sick of the unwarranted Tamar bashing.

I am having trouble getting onto the main site. I downloaded the lastest version of Flash, but I still can't get in, other than the forum page. sad


Ditto for me. What operating system do you have? It might be a Mac OS 9 issue.
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Reply #17 posted 02/25/06 10:08pm

PurpleCharm

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PurpleCharm said:



Thanks so much for the link. I am definitely sick of the unwarranted Tamar bashing.

I am having trouble getting onto the main site. I downloaded the lastest version of Flash, but I still can't get in, other than the forum page. sad


Ditto for me. What operating system do you have? It might be a Mac OS 9 issue.


Windows XP
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Reply #18 posted 02/25/06 10:14pm

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PurpleCharm said:

redflag said:



Ditto for me. What operating system do you have? It might be a Mac OS 9 issue.


Windows XP


Interesting. I'm so used to thinking when I have a problem with a site that it's because I have a Mac! Obviously something else is going on.
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Reply #19 posted 02/25/06 11:09pm

PurpleCharm

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PurpleCharm said:



Windows XP


Interesting. I'm so used to thinking when I have a problem with a site that it's because I have a Mac! Obviously something else is going on.


I was finally able to get in. I think it was do to me rebooting my computer. The site looks very nice. wink
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Reply #20 posted 02/25/06 11:32pm

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PurpleCharm said:

redflag said:



Interesting. I'm so used to thinking when I have a problem with a site that it's because I have a Mac! Obviously something else is going on.


I was finally able to get in. I think it was do to me rebooting my computer. The site looks very nice. wink


Aarrrgh! I still can't get in! Glad you made it though!
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Reply #21 posted 02/25/06 11:34pm

PurpleCharm

Musicology200 from HQ was able to grab a few of the Flash pictures from Tamar's site. Thanks!











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Reply #22 posted 02/26/06 8:04am

zsazsa

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she is beautiful
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Reply #23 posted 02/27/06 3:44am

HumaRojo

redflag said:

Prince wanted to sign the group she was in, Girls Tyme (which also included future Destiny's Child members Beyonce Knowles, Kelly Rowland and Latavia Roberson) to Paisley Park Records in 1992 as the below link to an archived article at the Houston Chronicle website describes:

http://www.chron.com/CDA/...92_1074953


eek

Wow!! I didn't have a clue about it...

I guess at the end it was better for the girls that Prince didn't sign them ... Destiny's Child and Beyoncé's success has no equal among all Prince's protegés.
Anyway, best of luck!
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Reply #24 posted 02/27/06 11:12pm

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chunky said:

Tamar is likeable, she could do an album. If she got her HAIR done like Brandy braided and maybe mixed-dyed(?) like Christina Aguilera and hanging LONG like Naomi Campbell she’d be more stunning to look at, do y’all get my idea? She doesn’t need any dance routine. she doesn’t need the ‘bling’ either. she doesn’t have to play an instrument, puke her life story or do like other ego-trippy celebs who have something to say about everything and so-and-so… Prince chose her clothes (NPG?), direct her musical message and style, that’s fine… hmmm, I don’t want her confused with Mani, tho? I trust Prince 110%; if HE believes in her, so do i! I can’t wait for the WORLD TOUR, don’t keep us waiting too long. Anyways, lucky her! I hope she has fun and takes the fame easy peasy. I just prefer the music, the singer/performer and the songs, WITHOUT publicity, hype, I don’t want music to get lost in melo-drama ANYMORE! especially females in the industry; no-more baggage! we’ve had enough already! Keep it simple, clean, liberated, fair and honest. Is that too much to ask for these days?

I hope you're not serious with this.
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Reply #25 posted 03/01/06 7:34am

HumaRojo

Just pure curiosity...

How famous is this chick in the States?

I have only heard of her in this website...
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Reply #26 posted 03/01/06 3:44pm

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HumaRojo said:

Just pure curiosity...

How famous is this chick in the States?

I have only heard of her in this website...
[Edited 3/1/06 7:35am]


In the grand scheme of things at this early stage not very. Her single has just come out and is being worked, she hasn't come out with a video yet and hasn't done any press, so most of the people who know about her now are Prince fans. I expect that to change closer to when her album drops on May 2nd as Universal's promtion of her kicks into high gear.
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Reply #27 posted 03/01/06 10:12pm

PurpleCharm

I have a few questions. Hopefully someone can answer them. biggrin

What does being a Prince protege mean?
In addition to writing and producing Tamar's album, is he also her manager?
Did he help her get her deal with Universal?
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Reply #28 posted 03/01/06 10:32pm

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PurpleCharm said:

I have a few questions. Hopefully someone can answer them. biggrin

What does being a Prince protege mean?
In addition to writing and producing Tamar's album, is he also her manager?
Did he help her get her deal with Universal?


People have different definitions for a "Prince protege". My personal definition is an artist or act where either Prince produced the entire album (as opposed to merely contributing a track or two) or whose projects were released on one of Prince's record labels (Paisley Park or NPG Records). Some people include artists like Sheena Easton or Martika as proteges because Prince gave them hit songs and would exclude artists who recorded for Paisley Park and NPG Records that had projects with no Prince involvement like Tony LeMans or Good Question. It depends on who you ask.

The second question I don't know the answer to. For the early "Jamie Starr"/Starr Company productions Prince did for acts like The Time, Vanity/Apollonia 6 and Sheila E. they had the same management Prince had at the time (Cavallo, Ruffalo and Fargnoli). During the Paisley Park/NPG Records era the management of the various associated acts varied. I've heard Tamar's mother might be managing her, but I don't know for sure.

I can only presume that Prince helped Tamar get her deal with Universal as she wasn't signed by anyone before he started working with her, but once again I don't know for sure. Hope that helps.
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Reply #29 posted 03/02/06 6:08pm

PurpleCharm

redflag said:

PurpleCharm said:

I have a few questions. Hopefully someone can answer them. biggrin

What does being a Prince protege mean?
In addition to writing and producing Tamar's album, is he also her manager?
Did he help her get her deal with Universal?


People have different definitions for a "Prince protege". My personal definition is an artist or act where either Prince produced the entire album (as opposed to merely contributing a track or two) or whose projects were released on one of Prince's record labels (Paisley Park or NPG Records). Some people include artists like Sheena Easton or Martika as proteges because Prince gave them hit songs and would exclude artists who recorded for Paisley Park and NPG Records that had projects with no Prince involvement like Tony LeMans or Good Question. It depends on who you ask.

The second question I don't know the answer to. For the early "Jamie Starr"/Starr Company productions Prince did for acts like The Time, Vanity/Apollonia 6 and Sheila E. they had the same management Prince had at the time (Cavallo, Ruffalo and Fargnoli). During the Paisley Park/NPG Records era the management of the various associated acts varied. I've heard Tamar's mother might be managing her, but I don't know for sure.

I can only presume that Prince helped Tamar get her deal with Universal as she wasn't signed by anyone before he started working with her, but once again I don't know for sure. Hope that helps.
[Edited 3/1/06 22:34pm]


Thanks for the breakdown. I didn't realize until recently that people consider Sheena Easton to be a Prince protege. I have no idea why people would. She was an established artist before hooking up with P.
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