I know that Sinead O'Connor and the Bangles had number one hits with songs written by Prince but I'm talking about people like Sheila E,the Time, Wendy and Lisa and so forth that actually were associated with Prince regularly for more than just one song or two.

hmmm .. i am curious too ....

i would guess the time ... cus they had more "hits" on the albums .... but it would admittedly be a guess .... sheila e is the one i think of as far as being "well known" ... but she didnt have many "hits" ...

It would obviously have to be the Time. All of their albums charted well even though there are only 4. Sheila really only made a dent with the first 2 albums and I dont she got as high as the Time did with the Ice Cream Castles or Pandemonium albums.

It depends on which chart. Both the Time and Sheila E have had three U.S. top 40 hits (one top ten each), but on the R&B charts, The Time have a lot more chart singles. All of the Time's albums have been certified gold or platinum. Not so for Sheila E. I can post complete chart discographies when I consult my Billboard books tonight.

And The Bangles' "Manic Monday" peaked at #2 in the states, not #1.

Actually, I already posted most of the singles chart info on this thread: http://www.prince.org/msg/7/160387

From Sextonseven's post, it seem slike Sheila achieved the highest position with TGL although the Time had more consistent chart showings..... all in terms of singles of course.

That was really interesting info. I'm kinda shocked about some of it..... meaning how high some of htese were. I don't remember hearing most of these songs on the radio,... well I guess the one's in the 30's and higher. LIke Belle of St Mark..... I always wished the'd play protoge stuff more.

Kind of beside the point, but it seems that The Time is seen as a subset of Prince because of Purple Rain. Sheila seems like a celebrity in her own right, even though she obviously owes much of it to Prince. TGL wasn't in Purple Rain & Prince wasn't in her video, so it seems more removed from Prince, ala Sinead & Bangles.

Wouldn't it be Jesse Johnson?

Aftershock said:

Are you kidding??

HIs stuff never made it on the radio.

GaryMF said:

I got home too late last night to post chart discographies, but I will tonight--The Time, Sheila E and Jesse. Jesse has had more R&B hits than Sheila E, but no top 40 hits.

GaryMF said:

Uh...You must live on Jupiter then. Jesse charted with "I Want My Girl", "Can You Help Me" and "Be Your Man." Jesse was probably the most consistent of the Associates. I don't count Sinead as an associate. Taking someone's song doesn't make you an associate.

Aftershock said:

Well they didn't play his stuff very much on NYC R&B radio....maybe "Be Your Man" once in a while but that's about it.

Here are how well the top associated artists have done on the U.S. Hot 100 singles chart.

Jesse Johnson

Be Your Man - 61
Can You Help Me - 110
I Want My Girl - 76
Crazay - 53
Love Struck - 78

Sheila E

The Glamorous Life - 7
The Belle Of St. Mark - 34
Sister Fate - 102
A Love Bizarre - 11
Hold Me - 68

The Time

Cool (Part 1) - 90
777-9311 - 88
The Walk - 104
Ice Cream Castles - 106
Jungle Love - 20
The Bird - 36
Jerk Out - 9 (gold)

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Interesting. Thanks for the info.

So Sheila got the hightest!

And you still hear TGL today on the radio

Below are their corresponding numbers on the U.S. R&B singles chart.

Jesse Johnson

Be Your Man - 4
Can You Help Me - 3
I Want My Girl - 7
Let’s Have Some Fun - 87
Crazay - 2
She (I Can’t Resist) - 28
Baby Let’s Kiss - 23
Love Struck - 4
Every Shade Of Love - 19

Sheila E

The Glamorous Life - 9
The Belle Of St. Mark - 68
Sister Fate - 36
A Love Bizarre - 2
Hold Me - 3
Koo Koo - 35
Sex Cymbal - 32
Droppin’ Like Flies - 77

The Time

Get It Up - 6
Cool - 7
Girl/The Stick - 49
777-9311 - 2
The Walk - 24
Gigolos Get Lonely Too - 77
Ice Cream Castles - 11
Jungle Love - 6
The Bird - 33
Jerk Out - 1 (gold)
Chocolate - 44

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Below are how well their albums have done on Billboard's top 200 albums chart.

Jesse Johnson

Jesse Johnson’s Revue - 43 (gold)
Shockadelica - 70
Every Shade Of Love - 79

Sheila E

The Glamorous Life - 28 (gold)
Romance 1600 - 50 (gold)
Sheila E - 56
Sex Cymbal - 146

The Time

The Time - 50 (gold)
What Time Is It? - 26 (gold)
Ice Cream Castle - 24 (platinum)
Pandemonium - 18 (gold)

And finally, the peak positions on the U.S. R&B albums chart.

Jesse Johnson

Jesse Johnson’s Revue - 8 (gold)
Shockadelica - 15
Every Shade Of Love - 26

Sheila E

The Glamorous Life - 7 (gold)
Romance 1600 - 12 (gold)
Sheila E - 24
Sex Cymbal - 56

The Time

The Time - 7 (gold)
What Time Is It? - 2 (gold)
Ice Cream Castle - 3 (platinum)
Pandemonium - 9 (gold)

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While I'm at it, here's Morris Day's solo chart numbers.

Hot 100 singles

The Oak Tree - 65
Fishnet - 23

R&B Singles

The Oak Tree - 3
Color Of Success - 15
The Character - 34
Fishnet - 1
Daydreaming - 26
Love Is A Game - 71
Gimme Whatcha Got - 77
Get A Job - 96

Top 200 Albums

Color Of Success - 37
Daydreaming - 41
It's About Time - 197

R&B Albums

Color Of Success - 7
Daydreaming - 7
It's About Time - 39

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GaryMF said:

Are you serious? Here in the SF Bay Area,ALL of his singles got airplay on our R&B stations.Even his B-sides,like "Free World" and "Drive Yo Cadillac",got airplay.

And to think, I always wanted to live in New York City. New York is supposed to be up on things up there....the baddest of the bad. They played the hell out of Jesse down here. Y'all need to hide your heads in shame up there for that one, cause y'all let a dead ass state like Mississippi be one up on you.
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vainandy said:

Well, maybe I should've also said that I was in college upstate so I only got to listen to the NY radio stations when I was home for breaks and in the summer.... and i would make tapes off the radio that I would bring back to college.....

But i don't remember hearing Jesse too much. LIke I said, maybe Be your Man and maybe Crazay once in a while.

But whenever I'd come home from school My friend and I woudl go tot he black neighborhood record store and pick up all the Prince and related artists albums and 12"'s

One more chart:

#1 US Dance Hits

Sheila E.
"The Glamorous Life" #1 for 2 weeks
"A Love Bizarre" #1 for 2 weeks

Vanity 6
"Nasty Girl" #1 for 4 weeks

The Time, Jesse Johnson, and Morris Day never achieved #1s on the dance charts. Sheena Easton did with Prince's "Sugar Walls" (1 week) and so did Chaka Khan with Prince's "I Feel 4 U" (3 weeks), but both Sheena and Chaka were well-established artists before Prince became musically involved with either one.

Snap said:

Do people care about dance chart numbers? I can post all of those too if there is a demand for them.

vainandy said:

I stopped listening to NYC R&B radio in 1986 so I wouldn't know if those stations were big on the Minneapolis sound after that. I used to hear all the new Paisley Park stuff by seeing the videos on BET.

Back in the day, I used to go to record stores in black neighborhoods to get hard to find funk. The funny thing is that nowadays it's the exact opposite. I have to go to white neighborhoods to get funk because all I ever see in the black neighborhood record stores is rap.

You're doing a good job. The chart numbers are showing which ones had the most success.

Thanks for the information!

this is one thread where wendy and lisa come up dead last..




although they did chart with Waterfalls, This Is The Life (Dangerous Minds version) and Closing Of The Year (oddly enough). but only Waterfalls charted top twenty five..

sosgemini said:

I'm not sure to which charts you are referring. (U.K.?) Below are all the Billboard chart positions for Wendy and Lisa:

Hot 100
Waterfall - 56

R&B Singles
Are You My Baby - 23

Top 200 Albums
Wendy And Lisa - 88
Fruit At The Bottom - 119

R&B Albums
Fruit At The Bottom - 71

Additionally, "The Closing Of The Year" peaked at #53 on Billboard's Hot 100 Airplay chart. These were all the chart entries I could find.

I too want to thank sexton for his research.