Jizzy said:

Oooh - I'd love to see you prove THAT story.

artpal said:

artpal said:

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Don't be sorry for anything. You did not offend anyone and you are not the first person to tell some stories about P on this board. You did not sign an agreement and if you did I am sure it would have expired by this time.

You have people on this board that put P on some weird higher plain. He is just a man who likes the ladies. They do not have to be models or stars and to the shock to some people he actually likes sisters !!!!

We will all raise holy hell if this thread is closed. If some of you don't like ddon't open it anymore since you know now what is going on this thread.

I love how this person refers to themselves as "we"!
THERE IS NO "ARTPAL",THERE IS NO "BASSDAME"
THIS IS THE SAME PERSON WITH 3 OR 4 ORG ACCOUNTS AND A COUPLE OF UPTOWN DAMES PHOTOS THAT WERE EMAILED TO THEM BY A REAL MEMBER OF UPTOWN DAMES.
the "real" member from the Uptown Dames would never come to a Prince website and pretend to know what Prince is doing in his bedroom,or with whom he is doing it with.
The "real" member of the Uptown Dames is a tad more classy than that.
(not to mention fear of civil suit for breech of confidentiality agreement).

Jizzy said:

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What's it to you if it is not true. You need to relex this is just a message board.

laurarichardson said:

You can raise all the "holy hell" that you want-these stories are being made up by a deranged Prince fan,designed to cause a stir here and at other sites.
I provided you with facts,take them as you see fit!

Jizzy said:

Hey Jizzy, feel free to believe whatever you believe. Other than posting photos that my boyrfriend took and posting rehearsal recordings that obviously have Robin's voice in it, I just don't know how to prove we are who we are. But I must say do you do have quite an imagination - I'll give you that.

So if you don't believe Bass and I are real, then so be it. There's nothing I can do about that.

laurarichardson said:

I will tell you what it is to me.
I am a close personal friend of a real member of the Uptown Dames-
this person would never speak about things like this,especially on a message board full of Prince fans!
Secondly-it is dishonest to receive photos that were emailed to you out of trust and kindness and then turn around and use said photos to add authenticity to your fabricated story and persona.
I can tell from the tone of your post that you have no idea whatsoever as to what you are talking about.
It is the "fans" such as yourself,who get duped into these kinds of games constantly!
read my lips-"ARTPAL"/BASSDAME" DO NOT EXSIST.THIS IS AN IMPOSTER OF THE HIGHEST DEGREE.HE IS MENTALLY ILL.

artpal said:

You should really stop playing with these people-
You know the deal and you know I know the deal-gig is up,ya took it too far with the "insider Prince sex-scoopstuff".
You could have kept this persona up for a while longer and I wouldn't have exposed you,but you went too far with all the fake Prince sex stories.
I couldn't let that slide and be able to sleep well at night with myself.
like I said,stop playing with these folks here,the majority of them are honest,good people-they don't deserve this charade you are playing!
[Edited 9/21/05 12:20pm]
[Edited 9/21/05 12:21pm]

Let me tell you why we are posting these stories. Publicity. At first I thought I would reunite the Dames and take advantage of the buzz to promote whatever we did. I'm not sure if I wanna do that as of now. The next idea that came to mind is to promote my documentary about beauty. Ok - there's a part of me that likes the attention.

Bassdame and I will always be scheming to get our creative works out there somehow. It's in our nature. In the process, I feel like I've made a lot of really cool friends.

I really didn't want to post that story, but it got out anyway, and I didn't want to be accused of favoritism in the end. So I felt compelled to post the story.

Now if the story weren't true and if I weren't afraid of the consequences, then I wouldn't have discouraged Bassdame from posting it publicly. So yes, I have some fear posting that story. But we did not sign a confidentiality agreement. In fact, we didn't sign any kind of contract at all, which is strange for someone of Prince's caliber. It just goes to show you that we were just a box of chocolates for Robin - nothing more.

Jizzy said:

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I don't know if what you are saying is true. What I do know is that Robyn Power had already gone into graphic description of P's private parts in a interview with E.Jean Carol. The article has been posted on this board a few times over the years. My point is Robyn already spoken about intimate details to the media in the past.
What makes you think she would not tell others. Not to mention that their are other stories out on the net about P. This guy gets around and people are going to talk. He may have even brought a little of this on himself for treating people like dirt.

My point is we don't know if you are telling the truth or if the girls or Robyn are telling the truth. It is an open message board and you can't get on this board and control what people say on read. You put in your two cents that is all you can do.

I think my point has been made as clear as I can make it.
believe what you will but also consider my points as well.
I am not here for "publicity" by the way,have nothing to "promote" to all of you.just don't want to see my fellow orgers being taken advantage of.
goodnight.

Jizzy said:

You know an Uptown Dame? I'm still searching for Lisa Briones, Kim Griffen, Kim Arland, Kim Rasheed. I'm in contact with the rest. If you really know this person, please tell her to contact me - I'd love to hear from her. That is if you really know her.

I just wanna say that this set of threads has been one of the best ever on the org! Not because of the "scandalous" stories that a few people are supposedly all upset about right now, but because it is about real behind-the-scenes stories from real professional musicians. And those of us on here that are also real musicians KNOW that artpal and bassdame are for real, based on everything they've written about music, the industry, etc. Don't listen to the haters or those trying to stir up some kind of false controversy. Thanks for this thread Artpal!

artpal said:

You seem to be digging your hole deeper with these half- hearted attempts to justify your "stories".
Are you aware that 2 of the ladies you named were never really members of the Uptown Dames?
You are blowing it!
then again,you do have a book to promote,right?
what a good way to drum up publicity!Go on a Prince site,pretend you are not 1,but 2 members of a Prince -related band and then start telling stories of Prince's sex-life!
CLASSIC FAN GONE OFF DEEP-END BEHAVIOR!

Jizzy said:

I have a proposal. Bassdame and I will take pictures of ourselves in the present time. We will hold up a piece of paper saying anything you want us to say. Then we will post the photo and hopefully if we haven't changed too much after fifteen years, you will notice the resemblance to the old pictures, which you have already declared to be authentic.

Bassdame keeps telling me she's gonna fly over to DC to see me - but she - well - it's not that easy for her. But still - we can post separate pictures.

Deal?

I feel kinda stupid actually dealing with this.... but it's good publicity...

plymouthavenuenorth said:

another org. account name,I presume?
there is nothing "scandalous" about these stories.
these stories are completely made up and are 100% false!
this guy who is pawning himself off as "artpal"/"bassdame"/"plymouthavenuenorth"
is starting to drown slowly in his lies and deception.
nice prank,buddy!
be aware that there are "people" here reading this stuff that know it is a crock!
we are getting a good laugh out of some of these outrageous tales though!the best so far is:
Prince standing around in his slant-cut "christopher tracey era"shirt with his penis hanging out,carrying Robin Power around the room!
how long did it take to come up with that one? lol
C'mon orgers! that story alone should have been a dead giveaway that this person is playing you!

Jizzy said:

Wow - you really are creative!!! How about my above proposal about the present day photos?

artpal said:

I am not here to feed into your "publicity".there are more important things in life I am afraid!
What I am here for ,is to tell these people whom you are taking advantage of, that your id and stories are in fact,bogus.
take all of the pictures you want.like I stated earlier-you know I know what is up.

Jizzy said:

Is that a yes or a no?


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By the way-
Prince would like to speak to you,"artpal"/"bassdame"/"plymouthavenuenorth"..
orgnote me and I will see to it that you are put into contact with him.
I tried to send you this message via pm,but mysteriously you don't answer back..
If you were a "real" Uptown Dame then you would know who I am actually and you would have no problem answering my orgnotes.we are all a family,right?
no need to be shy,that is unless you are ,in fact,an imposter who would not be able to answer a few "family oriented" questions.
Like I said,If you are really whom you claim to be,Prince would like to speak to you.Ball is in your court now!

Jizzy said:

Oh I didn't notice the orgnote. I'll read it now...

Jizzy said:

Would you please resend the note? I don't have it.

Oh now you're gonna accuse me of playing games... oh well...

Hey wait a minute, Jizzy. Nice try with the deflection - but you ain't foolin' this savvy middle aged dame. I made a proposal of posting a present day photo of myself with whatever you want written on a piece of paper, and you start attacking me about not answering an orgnote, which, by the way, I still don't have.

Nice try.

So for the photo proposal - is that a yes or a no?

plymouthavenuenorth said:

Thanks and you're welcome, plymouth.

And thanks for the info about the confidentiality Blaque. I was always mystified about that.

But then again - maybe Blaque is really - ME IN DISGUISE!!!

prodigalfan said:

I'm familiar with Carl. I just posted on the SueAnn Carwell thread and gave links to both Carl's and SueAnn's home pages on PeaceCity. SueAnn's home page has samples of some of the demos she has done. Sorry this is a little late to respond to but I just joined and "they" kept me in limbo for awhile.
Here's the sites:
www.peacecity1.com/carlcarwell/
www.peacecity1.com/sueanncarwell/

BlaqueKnight said:

Why the personal attack buddy?
I am just trying to let you know that this person is a fraud and is feeding you lies,lies,lies!
This person was no more a member of the Uptown Dames than the man on the moon!
As far as the Confidentiality agreements ,I know full and well that if you recorded for Paisley Park,which the Dames in fact did,you signed a Confidentiality agreement,plain and simple!
If you have documents that state otherwise,post them,I would love to see em!
Prince,being Prince,is not going to put together a girl-group and let them run amok telling personal stories,as some are prone to do when the pocket book is a little light.
He had everyone sign these contracts and The Uptown Dames damn sure were not the exception to his rule!Especially with Robin Power as a member.everyone who know's Robin also know's that she is a bit "crazy" and Prince did everything he could do to shut her up when she went around to some sport's magazine and told a bunch of lies!You have not heard much more from Robin Power after that expose,did you?Nope!I wonder why???
Being that you are buying into this person's stories so fully says more about your intake of "kool-aid" than mine,which,by the way is none.hate the stuff,too sweet and dis-colors your teeth.anyhoo-
I suggest,blaquenight,that you educate yourself more on the inner workings of the Prince camp before you take me to task,which you failed at by the way.
Your opening statement to me in your reply pretty much negates me from having a real debate with you.You couln't handle it,you would resort to petty name calling,as you proved already.
I am not telling you what to believe at all.
I am just telling you that these stories are not coming from a memeber of Uptown Dames at all.
These stories are coming from a deranged fan.
One single person!
by the way-where is "bassdame" during all of this???
oops,I forgot!he is logged on as "artpal" right now!
yikes!
when you are ready to be corrected again,let me know blaquenight.
I have a soft spot in my heart for gullible people I guess.

Jizzy said:

Hey Jizzy, Bassdame usually logs on late at night or very early in the morning. That's when I change personalities.

Why are you avoiding the photo proposal? Scared?

artpal said:

I did not attack you at all.
I merely stated that you have not responded to an orgnote that I sent you pertaining to all of this the day this thread was created!
That simple response may have cleared this whole thing up,but since you did not respond to repeated orgnotes,I was left with the conclusion that you are not whom you are claiming to be.
The real person would have jumped through hoops to respond to those orgnotes(you know why).
I don't see how posting recent pictures would validate your claim as this being the internet,and being that you have already posted pictures that were supposed to be confidential- I don't think the picture posting game is gonna work with me.