There is absolutely no action they can to take to stop open discussion on a public forum. Want to know what they could do however? Only let people in who were on a guest list and had ID. That clearly wasn't the case seeing as 100 or more of the general public were there last night. The event has ended anyway, P can't cancel now...

They didn't stop people talking about on twitter did they?

dandan said:

There is absolutely no action they can to take to stop open discussion on a public forum. Want to know what they could do however? Only let people in who were on a guest list and had ID. That clearly wasn't the case seeing as 100 or more of the general public were there last night. The event has ended anyway, P can't cancel now...

They didn't stop people talking about on twitter did they?

The only reason they didnt want people to talk about it was because it was for Celeb's. Yes i went and had a good time, but maybe they dont want us talking so we dont say how we were cramed in whilst the celebs had more room than they needed on the floor.

Good show but as it was Ground Hog day he took us back to Feb 2014.

powersoul99 said:

dandan said:

There is absolutely no action they can to take to stop open discussion on a public forum. Want to know what they could do however? Only let people in who were on a guest list and had ID. That clearly wasn't the case seeing as 100 or more of the general public were there last night. The event has ended anyway, P can't cancel now...

They didn't stop people talking about on twitter did they?

The only reason they didnt want people to talk about it was because it was for Celeb's. Yes i went and had a good time, but maybe they dont want us talking so we dont say how we were cramed in whilst the celebs had more room than they needed on the floor.

Good show but as it was Ground Hog day he took us back to Feb 2014.

I must admit when I was lucky enough to see Prince at Koko's in 2014, it was very packed in. I was on the stairs and you couldn't move!

jayspud said:

powersoul99 said:

The only reason they didnt want people to talk about it was because it was for Celeb's. Yes i went and had a good time, but maybe they dont want us talking so we dont say how we were cramed in whilst the celebs had more room than they needed on the floor.

Good show but as it was Ground Hog day he took us back to Feb 2014.

I must admit when I was lucky enough to see Prince at Koko's in 2014, it was very packed in. I was on the stairs and you couldn't move!

that was the crziest thing ever...a mod senfd me a note trying to fucking lecture me on etiquoitte of non profilts and not wanting p to cancel etc....since when did the org dok his fucking bidding..he has absolutely no ;legal; recourse whatsovere....he gonna sue fb, ywitter etc who all had the show mentioned

Private Org note quotation deleted - langebleu - moderator

The decision not to discuss the Koko event ahead of the date was taken out of respect of the charity, which was staging the private, invitation-only fundraiser.

Specific moderation decisions can be taken up in the ordinary way with the moderator.

Now that the event has taken place, there is a thread in the Concert forum to discuss the performance:

http://prince.org/msg/12/414025

but i am afraid , it turned into a cheap night for celebrities to see prince up close, and you lot who run this site fell for it!

tbh the decisions of the charity seem pretty stupid

>Organises funraiser to promote AWARENESS of autism

>Shuts people up on public forum from talking about said gig

>Sense????

I guess that if Ben gets sued, he can use the membership fees he gets from us to fund his legal expenses.

Oh, wait...

So unless you guys want to fund Ben's legal fees if he gets sued - and I think we all agree that Prince is not afraid to sue anyone - then you need to respect the mods/Ben's decision to err on the side of caution.

RodeoSchro said:

I guess that if Ben gets sued, he can use the membership fees he gets from us to fund his legal expenses.

Oh, wait...

So unless you guys want to fund Ben's legal fees if he gets sued - and I think we all agree that Prince is not afraid to sue anyone - then you need to respect the mods/Ben's decision to err on the side of caution.

tbh I don't blame the mods or admins or Prince for that matter, I just think the charity are stupid for wanting to shut people up about this. Crowds or no crowds it goes against the whole idea of the charity in the first place which is to create awareness and educate people about autism. How are they going to do that by stopping people talking about a gig that is meant to do just that?

I can understand not leaking the info prior to the show. It was VIP only. 99% of people who wanted to go simply couldn't have got tickets. Celebs only - it was a fundraiser. Why be a dick about it? If the charity wanted it kept quiet why be antagonistic?

I don't really understand killing the "live" thread that was ongoing as the gig was ongoing though. It was simply people bringing info from Twitter to the Org. Johnathan Ross was the first celeb to post a picture 10 minutes into the gig. Once it's out it's out. Having to hold back so we can all pretend we learned it from Funkenberry just seems strange. (Although he was tweeting through the show).

RodeoSchro said:

I guess that if Ben gets sued, he can use the membership fees he gets from us to fund his legal expenses.

Oh, wait...

So unless you guys want to fund Ben's legal fees if he gets sued - and I think we all agree that Prince is not afraid to sue anyone - then you need to respect the mods/Ben's decision to err on the side of caution.

Except Ben could not under any circumstance be sued by Prince or the promoters. You can't stop open discussion on a public forum.

dandan said:

RodeoSchro said:

I guess that if Ben gets sued, he can use the membership fees he gets from us to fund his legal expenses.

Oh, wait...

So unless you guys want to fund Ben's legal fees if he gets sued - and I think we all agree that Prince is not afraid to sue anyone - then you need to respect the mods/Ben's decision to err on the side of caution.

Except Ben could not under any circumstance be sued by Prince or the promoters. You can't stop open discussion on a public forum.

LMAO, where are you from? Here in the US anyone can sue anyone else for anything.

Prince could make up the most bogus lawsuit ever, but it would still cost Ben $$$thousands just to get the suit dismissed.

RodeoSchro said:

KingSausage said:

RodeoSchro said:

Discussion of bootleg recordings is closer to the gray area.

No, not gray, it is completely LEGAL to discuss bootlegs in every way.

antonb said:

but i am afraid , it turned into a cheap night for celebrities to see prince up close, and you lot who run this site fell for it!

What's worse is that the mods continue to defend their actions, without any kind of viable rationale, rather than simply admitting that they made a poor and hasty decision.

theblueangel said:

antonb said:

but i am afraid , it turned into a cheap night for celebrities to see prince up close, and you lot who run this site fell for it!

What's worse is that the mods continue to defend their actions, without any kind of viable rationale, rather than simply admitting that they made a poor and hasty decision.

I don't think we made a poor and hasty decision.

I don't think it's much to ask that we respect the wishes of a charity raising money for autism.

Militant said:

theblueangel said:

What's worse is that the mods continue to defend their actions, without any kind of viable rationale, rather than simply admitting that they made a poor and hasty decision.

I don't think we made a poor and hasty decision.

I don't think it's much to ask that we respect the wishes of a charity raising money for autism.

KingSausage said:

RodeoSchro said:

LMAO, where are you from? Here in the US anyone can sue anyone else for anything.

Prince could make up the most bogus lawsuit ever, but it would still cost Ben $$$thousands just to get the suit dismissed.

As a catchy thing to say with no regard to accuracy, yes, anyone can sue anyone. As a legal practicality in the real world, no. Judges toss out frivolous lawsuits all the time. Defendants can go after people for cost recovery and damages if they're hounded with bullshit lawsuits. Discussion of bootleg recordings is closer to the gray area. Discussing a charity gig that's supposed to be secret is not. There's no fucking way Prince's lawyers would get anywhere with such a suit. It's laughable. [Edited 2/5/15 8:24am]

Maybe you're a lawyer. I will admit that I am not. But I have considerable experience in the courtroom. I've handled lawsuits on my company's behalf that have gone all the way to the Supreme Court of the United States of America.

We've been sued by people with cause, and by people with no cause. We've never lost a suit. We've settled a few, and won the rest at trial. We've fought default judgments, taken depositions all across the United States, and gone up against crooked judges (and won).

I know how easy it is to sue anyone - especially if you have the money to do it like Prince has. It would be nothing for Prince to spend $25,000 to get his lawyers to craft a suit against Ben/the Org that would stand up to at least the first round of hearings.

To get through that first round would cost Ben at least $10,000 and likely as much as $50,000. If you don't believe that, then you have never been sued by a big law firm.

Could Ben prevail and get a Prince lawsuit tossed? Maybe - if he wants to invest $25,000 to $50,000 of his own money to do that.

If Ben did get Prince's lawsuit tossed, could he ask a judge to force Prince to reimburse Ben for Ben's legal fees? Sure, he could ASK for that. But would he get it?

Highly, highly doubtful. Judges very, very rarely award legal fees. The defendant (in this case, Ben) has to show willful malice on the part of the plaintiff (Prince). Ben would have to show that Prince filed the case knowing it was a bogus claim. But I can guarantee you that Prince's lawyers would craft the case with that in mind, and they would make sure that every single claim made by Prince could be justified logically. I would put money down that Prince would never have to pay Ben's legal fees, no matter how quickly Prince's suit was tossed.

Maybe you aren't an American and maybe in your country, the loser pays the legal fees. That's not how it works in America.

If you get sued, you hire a lawyer to defend you. That lawyer will require a retainer (a cash payment up front). The better the lawyer, the higher the retainer will be. To hire a lawyer that could go up against Prince's high-caliber legal team would require a retainer of at least $10,000 and probably more than that.

You're missing the larger point and that is that if Prince sues Ben, Ben would settle the suit as quickly as possible and the only way to do that is to immediately and permanently shut down the Org. Otherwise, Ben starts spending his money and he would be a fool to do that.

RodeoSchro said:

luv4u said:

Militant said:

I don't think we made a poor and hasty decision.

I don't think it's much to ask that we respect the wishes of a charity raising money for autism.

I 3rd That!!!