I know a few orgers who were banned when they were too young to drink.
Years have passed obviously.

What , if any, are the rules around reconsidering perma-banned status?

Eventually, they drop off the radar, but when they come back, they always
behave better than they did before.... well, unless they're mdiver of course.
That guy gives ghey a bad name!

But I was curious. You mods must know that this place is addictive.
They only people to have permanently left of their own accord have done
so to go and die---sort of like leaving the herd to go die alone in
the Elephant graveyard somewhere in a distant jungle.

But for everyone else, they can't help by come back. They crave it.
They masturbate to photos of the org, really.


What, if anything is taken into consideration when reconsidering
perma-banned status?



And how would one even approach doing such a thing--emailing poor ben?

Ben's busy. And I have a sneaking suspicion he hates every single one
of you guys, and we love him for that.

Seems we did try that once.

It did not go so well as I recall.

There isn't a formal process established.

Emailing Ben would be a good start.

Alternatively, someone could email ones of the mods (if they have a way of contacting them) to plead their case and get the ball rolling and the mods could all discuss.

The main factors I think we'd look for is why they were banned to begin with, how much time has passed and if we believe they will not go back to the behavior that got them banned the first time.

But generally speaking, it's not something that would happen frequently.

I am open to the idea of second chances and we have discussed certian returns and allowed them as well

It is 100% up to the potential returning banned orger to prove themselves ~ some don't and return quickly to the behavior that got them banned, so they are rebanned with a quickness !

I would suggest a serious letter to Ben, that he then would share with us and we can all discuss the possibility

Or a letter to one of the Mods

It is a case by case process though

Obviously, this is a cry for help.

Make TheVoid a mod now!

But only let him moderate the Marketplace forum.

Dan.....
[Edited 4/2/10 10:58am]

Interesting, because some permabanned orgers find their way back under a new username.
[Edited 3/22/10 19:16pm]

2elijah said:

Certainly you have proof and have contacted a moderator about this; correct?

I voluntarily deleted my account a few years ago, because I was being bullied on here.

I only returned after the bully was banned - I have no idea why they were banned,but I assume they started on someone else after I left. I just kept checking the site every few months (to see if the coast was clear), and must have missed the actual reasons for their banning.

If that person was allowed to post openly again, I'd leave again.

Mars23 said:

Well.....the orger I suspect may have returned, will eventually trip on his words and out himself on his own.
[Edited 3/23/10 6:51am]

2elijah said:

We do have tools to determine if users comeback under a new name, and we're able to catch it most of the time. They're not perfect, though, and it's possible for someone to slip through undetected.
But then, as you said, more often than not they go back to the behavior that got them banned to begin with. And it becomes obvious who they were, or they rack up enough stikes/warnings/etc. to become banned again.

If someone is permabanned, waits a significant amount of time and comes back under a new username undetected by us and then manages to follow all site rules and not let slip somehow that they were a permabanned orger, well then, bully for them. If they're following the rules, then I don't think anyone really cares. And in that case there's no way for us to know.

CarrieMpls said:

Okay....
[Edited 3/23/10 18:35pm]

What they all said above.

Yes, we have entertained the idea of allowing permabanned orgers a second chance. In fact, we actually carried through with it only to have them permabanned again later!

However, the whole "one bad apple" thing doesn't ruin it all for everyone. We will still continue to look into any request for amnesty, and determine their fate on an orger by orger basis.

If someone has been permabanned, you can tell them to plead their case to any of us mods, and we'll get back to them after we discuss the yays and nays, pros and cons of their return. But, they shouldn't even attempt to do so until at least 6 months of their suspension has taken place. We actually drafted an Org Amnesty notice in July of 2008. I'll have to dig it up to see if we actually did anything with it.

This may call for a looking into.

people keep talking about Jarvius and it makes me wish I knew him. I guess I came on too late to miss the real fun.