Okay...

Regarding our (the mods) action (or inaction) - it's good to have an open dialogue of what is on Orger's minds.

The other thread is quite long.

A lot of changes have been made or brought out as a result of the thread sosgemini created, I'd like to keep that going.

It's your forum... speaketh.

It sure is quiet

Just out of interest, what changes are you referring to June7?
[Edited 11/24/04 4:00am]

ian said:

I think he might be referring to that the actions of "moderation" are actually gonna be carried out in the real senses of the word. [snipped - Keep personal stuff in an Orgnote. Thanks - June7]

Teacher said:

No need to be facetious, it was a genuine question, and it wasn't directed towards you. Seriously - what changes have resulted from that other thread?

[Snipped - Keep personal stuff in an Orgnote, thanks. - June7]

ian said:

What I was referring to may not be visible to the regular Orger...

Perhaps, but most likely not.

Many internal issues were discussed openly in the last forum that we, as moderators, took to heart. As a result of that last thread, my relationship with the other mods, and some of the Orgers has changed for the better. Sadly, some Orger relationships have gone sour. You can't win them all.

As far as moderator changes, I won't go into that... they know what I'm talking about.

What's happening with 2the9s?

You get less time for murder.

I guess that the powers that be are just hoping that this all blows over and 9s will be forgotten about.

Somewhat worried about the response perhaps?

June7 said:

June

Can you re-open the last thread, I think I've left my car keys there....

bkw said:

But he has killed a few threads! And murdered plenty of jokes!

Anyway, I agree, where is he? We demand answers! Answers we have no right to demand! But we're gonna demand them anyway!

2the9s may be entitled to know the answers though?

bkw said:

Who?

Lleena said:

I'm not sure now, my memory is fading fast

bkw said:

:slapsBKWintheface:

snap out of it!

bkw said:

Lets see, Van by the river? hunchbacked git? Is it coming back to you now!!!?

bkw said:

It's a well known medical fact the alcohol helps your memory!

At least, I think it's alcohol.

It might be fish oil.

doctormcmeekle said:

How is the wife, by the way?

bkw said:

We're two of his many alter-egos, so by rights you should tell us too!

TheFrog said:

She's fine! It's halibut-week this week.

June7 said:

Why? Isn't this a discussion on site moderation? Do you want a discussion or not? What changes?

ian said:

It's a moderated discussion on site moderation.

doctormcmeekle said:

Ah I get it now

But, couldn't it be moderated more moderately since it is about moderation?


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June7 said:

This is fantastic. An honest discussion about moderation where new moderation methods cannot be discussed and where replies are snipped.

Please, one moderately intelligent moderator step forward and explain at least in moderate detail what changes have been made to moderation.



One play on the word 'moderation' post too many.

ian said:

As I said, the changes I'm referring to may not even be considered actual physical changes... just the way we as moderators approach things with eachother or with you guys...

Damn ian, can a person just take a blanket statement as that? A blanket statement...

No? Okay, then let me go a little further...

In my opinion... we show eachother more respect regarding how or who we moderate. As it should be. We have a better understanding of eachother... again, IMO.




That is all I was referring to.

June7 said:

all that in a matter of days?

GrayKing said:

It happens.

this is partly from another thread, so sorry if you're reading this again

I think it was Matt who said it sorta was common sense to take the users history into account when dealing with rule-violations. If the user has a history of repeated flaming etc etc the decision to deactivate is more quickly taken. Fair enough.

But that's just one aspect of that users history.You may wanna also look at the number of posts (in the case of Althom, disregard the one-emoticon posts) and/or the time spent in here.

If someone has logged in here 6 times, one saying hello, one to ask cloudbuster if it's allright to jack-a-thread, and four posts with racist stuff, it's not a strange decision to deactivate. It will also not stirr peeps in here, which of course will happen if a long-time user is deactivated.

IMHO a long time user (LTU) deserves some credit as well. If a LTU breaks site-rules moderators step in, take the users history into account, and can choose for deactivation when necessary. It's what moderators do and are here for.

In afterthought however (after a few days, practically speaking) the abovementioned other aspect of a user-history should come into consideration.
It will a) be more fair , b) prevent a lot of restlessness among other users (these kinds of threads) and perhaps most compelling for you mods c) will save a lot of mods putting time in this matter

Some orgers seem to get deified on here while others get demonized. But in both cases, I think it distorts some people's perception of whats fair when moderating occurs.

Tom said: