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Thread started 03/27/10 9:11pm

lostangel078

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New Wave Funk (instrumental)

whattup yall. hey, check out this joint I did. a groove i called "new wave funk" kinda has that Time/Mid 80's Prince vibe. uptempo 80s funk.

http://soundclick.com/sha...id=7044879

may the funk be with u.

also, check out this one.

http://soundclick.com/sha...id=8392200

this one kinda has an early 80s P vibe to it.
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Reply #1 posted 03/29/10 2:58am

JDODSON

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lostangel078 said:

whattup yall. hey, check out this joint I did. a groove i called "new wave funk" kinda has that Time/Mid 80's Prince vibe. uptempo 80s funk.

http://soundclick.com/sha...id=7044879

may the funk be with u.

also, check out this one.

http://soundclick.com/sha...id=8392200

this one kinda has an early 80s P vibe to it.


You have some great stuff! I would LOVE to write and record some lyrics to your song called "NewWaveFunk4". Let me know if we can collaborate!
I heart Stefani Germanotta.
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Reply #2 posted 03/31/10 5:47pm

lostangel078

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Hey thanks glad u dug them! For sure, I'd love to hear some of your stuff as well.

lets do it! shoot me an email.



JDODSON said:

lostangel078 said:

whattup yall. hey, check out this joint I did. a groove i called "new wave funk" kinda has that Time/Mid 80's Prince vibe. uptempo 80s funk.

http://soundclick.com/sha...id=7044879

may the funk be with u.

also, check out this one.

http://soundclick.com/sha...id=8392200

this one kinda has an early 80s P vibe to it.


You have some great stuff! I would LOVE to write and record some lyrics to your song called "NewWaveFunk4". Let me know if we can collaborate!
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Reply #3 posted 04/01/10 1:15am

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New Wave Order is off the chainlink

you have some dope beats, lay vocals over those joints they would be even better.

btw what type of synthesizers do you utilize? hardware or vsti plugins?
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Reply #4 posted 04/01/10 10:08pm

lostangel078

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thanks yo -- I use reason 4.0 and yamaha motif synths.

Yeah i'd love to hear some dope vocals over those.



minneapolisFunq said:

New Wave Order is off the chainlink

you have some dope beats, lay vocals over those joints they would be even better.

btw what type of synthesizers do you utilize? hardware or vsti plugins?
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Reply #5 posted 04/02/10 5:29pm

ernestsewell

Sounds like a DMSR drum loop.
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Reply #6 posted 04/02/10 10:59pm

lostangel078

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yep u got it!

ernestsewell said:

Sounds like a DMSR drum loop.
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Reply #7 posted 04/03/10 7:04am

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lostangel078 said:

yep u got it!

ernestsewell said:

Sounds like a DMSR drum loop.

So the part about "all instruments by" you is a falsehood then. I would have copied the beat and played it myself. You can't copyright a drum track, but you can get in trouble (and look less than fully talented as you are) when you sample someone. It's a fine line between creativity and copy-cat. I don't think you're a copy cat though. Surely there's some effect you could put on your own beat to give it that Linn LM-1 quality or something.

There is also a Linn sound pack floating around out there with the linn drum sounds that you could use as well. Just a thought.

Also just thought.....if you used the Linn sounds to recreate the DMSR beat.....Hmmmmm.
[Edited 4/3/10 7:53am]
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Reply #8 posted 04/03/10 12:58pm

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point taken. thanks for the feedback. i got you. 2 be honest, when I made that track, i sat down at my equipment with the intentions of just fooling around, I wasn't working on something for a specific purpose or artist - just for fun. So it kinda grew from there after I went though my personal libraries of drum loops.

Had I been contracted to do a certain or specific track, I usually program the drums myself, I prefer that sound in most cases, and freedom it gives me.

Still though, I would argue that if a drum loop is used (which is done lots in modern hip hop/rnb/electronica), and the composer/producer plays all instruments on top of the loop, i.e. keys, guitars, bass, synths, etc - I dont think it's misleading anyone saying he played "all the instruments on the track". tons of royalty free drum loops are available and out there for producers. as far as legalities and how it would be listed on a record in liner notes, thats a different story. oh..and I did program some claps/percussion from the LM-1 on that track as well on top of the loop. in this case with this track, I want folks to know where that drum came from, I wanted it 2 b obvious...the vibe of the song is undeniably that early 80s Prince funk vibe, if i could help lead the younger generation who knows little about Prince to look up those earlier records, and continue his legacy to the newer generation, im happy.







ernestsewell said:

lostangel078 said:

yep u got it!


So the part about "all instruments by" you is a falsehood then. I would have copied the beat and played it myself. You can't copyright a drum track, but you can get in trouble (and look less than fully talented as you are) when you sample someone. It's a fine line between creativity and copy-cat. I don't think you're a copy cat though. Surely there's some effect you could put on your own beat to give it that Linn LM-1 quality or something.

There is also a Linn sound pack floating around out there with the linn drum sounds that you could use as well. Just a thought.

Also just thought.....if you used the Linn sounds to recreate the DMSR beat.....Hmmmmm.
[Edited 4/3/10 7:53am]
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Reply #9 posted 04/03/10 1:09pm

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lostangel078 said:

point taken. thanks for the feedback. i got you. 2 be honest, when I made that track, i sat down at my equipment with the intentions of just fooling around, I wasn't working on something for a specific purpose or artist - just for fun. So it kinda grew from there after I went though my personal libraries of drum loops.

Had I been contracted to do a certain or specific track, I usually program the drums myself, I prefer that sound in most cases, and freedom it gives me.

Still though, I would argue that if a drum loop is used (which is done lots in modern hip hop/rnb/electronica), and the composer/producer plays all instruments on top of the loop, i.e. keys, guitars, bass, synths, etc - I dont think it's misleading anyone saying he played "all the instruments on the track". tons of royalty free drum loops are available and out there for producers. as far as legalities and how it would be listed on a record in liner notes, thats a different story. oh..and I did program some claps/percussion from the LM-1 on that track as well on top of the loop. in this case with this track, I want folks to know where that drum came from, I wanted it 2 b obvious...the vibe of the song is undeniably that early 80s Prince funk vibe, if i could help lead the younger generation who knows little about Prince to look up those earlier records, and continue his legacy to the newer generation, im happy.

I can't talk too much. I did sample Prince in one song. I just grabbed one of the guitar crunches from "Batdance" and put it on the downbeat every couple of measures (check my sig file for a link to that demo). I do have actual full drum sections from the Linn for "Anotherlover", "Dorothy Parker", "Automatic", and another song. Not sure where they came from. I assumed someone else recreated them on a Linn. The effects are slightly different, so that's why I think it's not from the original track of course.

I also want to cover a Prince song. Just one, just once. It has to be something light and fun. I wouldn't dare touch something like "Purple Rain" (fucking Leann Rhymes) or "When Doves Cry", etc. Those are TOO iconic. I'd probably do something fun like "Starfish and Coffee", or an instrumental of "The Arms of Orion" (which I play as a warm up on the piano anyway). I just can't imaging covering any other Prince song.

I realized last year that I wrote one song, and it has the same basic cord pattern as "Little Red Corvette", but is in a different key I believe. Oddly, I wrote it about a guy I knew who I was quite interested in. He has a reference to Batman in his online user names because he's a big Comic book fan, namely Batman. I used a line, "I love purple, I love bats - you're giving me a heart attack", as a reference to him (although the whole song is straight out based on sexy conversations we've had in the past). I found it ironic that a sexual song about a friend who likes Batman, is similar to "Little Red Corvette", as Prince did the Batman soundtrack too. Just a fun bit of serendipity there. My song is more of a harder rock song though. I actually drew some BDSM inspiration for it from "Automatic", just them thematic elements, not directly lifting anything from "Automatic".
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Reply #10 posted 04/03/10 1:40pm

lostangel078

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pretty funky track! thanks 4 sharing.


ernestsewell said:

lostangel078 said:

point taken. thanks for the feedback. i got you. 2 be honest, when I made that track, i sat down at my equipment with the intentions of just fooling around, I wasn't working on something for a specific purpose or artist - just for fun. So it kinda grew from there after I went though my personal libraries of drum loops.

Had I been contracted to do a certain or specific track, I usually program the drums myself, I prefer that sound in most cases, and freedom it gives me.

Still though, I would argue that if a drum loop is used (which is done lots in modern hip hop/rnb/electronica), and the composer/producer plays all instruments on top of the loop, i.e. keys, guitars, bass, synths, etc - I dont think it's misleading anyone saying he played "all the instruments on the track". tons of royalty free drum loops are available and out there for producers. as far as legalities and how it would be listed on a record in liner notes, thats a different story. oh..and I did program some claps/percussion from the LM-1 on that track as well on top of the loop. in this case with this track, I want folks to know where that drum came from, I wanted it 2 b obvious...the vibe of the song is undeniably that early 80s Prince funk vibe, if i could help lead the younger generation who knows little about Prince to look up those earlier records, and continue his legacy to the newer generation, im happy.

I can't talk too much. I did sample Prince in one song. I just grabbed one of the guitar crunches from "Batdance" and put it on the downbeat every couple of measures (check my sig file for a link to that demo). I do have actual full drum sections from the Linn for "Anotherlover", "Dorothy Parker", "Automatic", and another song. Not sure where they came from. I assumed someone else recreated them on a Linn. The effects are slightly different, so that's why I think it's not from the original track of course.

I also want to cover a Prince song. Just one, just once. It has to be something light and fun. I wouldn't dare touch something like "Purple Rain" (fucking Leann Rhymes) or "When Doves Cry", etc. Those are TOO iconic. I'd probably do something fun like "Starfish and Coffee", or an instrumental of "The Arms of Orion" (which I play as a warm up on the piano anyway). I just can't imaging covering any other Prince song.

I realized last year that I wrote one song, and it has the same basic cord pattern as "Little Red Corvette", but is in a different key I believe. Oddly, I wrote it about a guy I knew who I was quite interested in. He has a reference to Batman in his online user names because he's a big Comic book fan, namely Batman. I used a line, "I love purple, I love bats - you're giving me a heart attack", as a reference to him (although the whole song is straight out based on sexy conversations we've had in the past). I found it ironic that a sexual song about a friend who likes Batman, is similar to "Little Red Corvette", as Prince did the Batman soundtrack too. Just a fun bit of serendipity there. My song is more of a harder rock song though. I actually drew some BDSM inspiration for it from "Automatic", just them thematic elements, not directly lifting anything from "Automatic".
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Reply #11 posted 04/07/10 10:15am

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I gotta hear this after work too!
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Reply #12 posted 04/07/10 7:49pm

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Thats what Im talking about! I dont even care the drums are from DMSR I like what u did with them and the added rimshot and snare. The synths are nice and crispy too. U just are kind of dying to get some vocals on there. It screams for vocals. Let Jason twerk with this.

My only suggestion would have been to change up the drums to not sound so close to DMSR. Put them somewhere else so that it would not sound like a DIRECT loop.
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