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Reply #30 posted 11/06/09 10:47am

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I think if a project fails to show big #'s Prince just moves on. We've seen this endless times.

I've never signed up for any of his websites because his personality just doesn't fit the geek world.
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Reply #31 posted 11/06/09 11:00am

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violetblues said:

daPrettyman said:


What hadn't you seen before the site opened?


The Coachella Creep video in such good quality for one, im not saying the 60 bucks was money well spent, or that it was such a good deal, just that after all these i did not expect much, but as a fan i still get excited to check out his new work.
60 bucks is a lot of money, but as entertainment goes, some of us will spend that tonight on gas, a baby sitter, dinner and movie.
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You have a good point. Sure, $77 is not much money, but in this economy, people have to pick and choose what they spend their money on. To spend $77 on a website, t-shirt, and videos (that you can't really download...or not supposed to download) or spend $13 on 3 cds....I guess it's about what's important to you.

To me, I'd rather have the gas money, dinner and maybe a new shirt for my $77.
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Reply #32 posted 11/06/09 11:01am

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At this point and time, I don't think it would be beneficial to join (unless you really just want the t-shirt). He has already said that he was at the point where he could play at his leisure. To me, that means he's not going to tour unless he really has to.

I was like that in the beginning. I thought I just HAD TO join to support P. After giving away $77, I realized that I could have placed that $77 on something else.

haha...maybe we should all boy cott his stuff and force a tourout of him...lol razz

Maybe so. lol
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Reply #33 posted 11/06/09 11:03am

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specdude said:

I think if a project fails to show big #'s Prince just moves on. We've seen this endless times.

I've never signed up for any of his websites because his personality just doesn't fit the geek world.


See, to me, the $100 for the NPGMC (both times) was well worth the money. The first time was definitely the best. New music every month was well worth it.

The 2nd time around, I enjoyed it also. We got the boxed set, ONA piano cd, and Xenophobia along with a few mp3s here and there. That, to me, was worth the money. Not to mention the concert ticket and soundcheck at the show.. This time, not much in return (so far anyway).
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Reply #34 posted 11/06/09 2:04pm

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daPrettyman said:

specdude said:

I think if a project fails to show big #'s Prince just moves on. We've seen this endless times.

I've never signed up for any of his websites because his personality just doesn't fit the geek world.


See, to me, the $100 for the NPGMC (both times) was well worth the money. The first time was definitely the best. New music every month was well worth it.

The 2nd time around, I enjoyed it also. We got the boxed set, ONA piano cd, and Xenophobia along with a few mp3s here and there. That, to me, was worth the money. Not to mention the concert ticket and soundcheck at the show.. This time, not much in return (so far anyway).

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i agree....i was happy with what i got from npgmc for roughly the same money...
i got the albums which i enjoyed and good concert seat tickets.....that's why i was expecting some albums as well as the lotusflower release which i bought on cd import anyway....maybe i am looking for too much but when you compare it to other websites ...i dont think so...
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Reply #35 posted 11/06/09 2:04pm

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blackbob said:

daPrettyman said:



See, to me, the $100 for the NPGMC (both times) was well worth the money. The first time was definitely the best. New music every month was well worth it.

The 2nd time around, I enjoyed it also. We got the boxed set, ONA piano cd, and Xenophobia along with a few mp3s here and there. That, to me, was worth the money. Not to mention the concert ticket and soundcheck at the show.. This time, not much in return (so far anyway).

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i agree....i was happy with what i got from npgmc for roughly the same money...
i got the albums which i enjoyed and good concert seat tickets.....that's why i was expecting some albums as well as the lotusflower release which i bought on cd import anyway....maybe i am looking for too much but when you compare it to other websites ...i dont think so...

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Reply #36 posted 11/06/09 4:23pm

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WisdomNLove said:

I'm satisfied with the site cool I just want the long intro to go away. Dont need to sit through it every time.

you guys b!tch too much, some artists dont even care about fanclubs or have any, they just want their publishing/royalties & tour money

Prince really doesnt need a fanclub, its awesome he has one and does what he can, when he can and wants to. Remember HE DOESNT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING.

you get a ton of videos, exclusive videos, a t-shirt, ticket offerings for more than 4 shows w/priority seating, 3 full albums, exclusive photos.

Just be happy the site is still up!
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He does once he's taken someone's $77! lol

Happy the site is still up? Are you serious? He's charged money for a service that he's obligated to fulfill.
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Reply #37 posted 11/06/09 4:59pm

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Fauxie said:

WisdomNLove said:

I'm satisfied with the site cool I just want the long intro to go away. Dont need to sit through it every time.

you guys b!tch too much, some artists dont even care about fanclubs or have any, they just want their publishing/royalties & tour money

Prince really doesnt need a fanclub, its awesome he has one and does what he can, when he can and wants to. Remember HE DOESNT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING.

you get a ton of videos, exclusive videos, a t-shirt, ticket offerings for more than 4 shows w/priority seating, 3 full albums, exclusive photos.

Just be happy the site is still up!
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He does once he's taken someone's $77! lol

Happy the site is still up? Are you serious? He's charged money for a service that he's obligated to fulfill.



To be fair, all he offered was a t-shirt, downloads of the albums and "exclusive" videos. That's all we've gotten. They then later came back and said that you could buy concert tickets. That has happened also, so, LEGALLY, he has fulfilled his CONtract.
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Reply #38 posted 11/06/09 5:08pm

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daPrettyman said:

Fauxie said:



He does once he's taken someone's $77! lol

Happy the site is still up? Are you serious? He's charged money for a service that he's obligated to fulfill.



To be fair, all he offered was a t-shirt, downloads of the albums and "exclusive" videos. That's all we've gotten. They then later came back and said that you could buy concert tickets. That has happened also, so, LEGALLY, he has fulfilled his CONtract.


I understand that. My issue was with WisdomNLove suggesting he can pretty much do as little or as much as he feels, or not have the site at all (or walk away... 'be happy the site is still up!'). Only an asshole would need to fall back on whether they had LEGALLY delivered to their fans. They should want to do something really special with the site to give the loyal fans a real treat. Prince doesn't seem to care.
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Reply #39 posted 11/06/09 9:13pm

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Fauxie said:

daPrettyman said:




To be fair, all he offered was a t-shirt, downloads of the albums and "exclusive" videos. That's all we've gotten. They then later came back and said that you could buy concert tickets. That has happened also, so, LEGALLY, he has fulfilled his CONtract.


I understand that. My issue was with WisdomNLove suggesting he can pretty much do as little or as much as he feels, or not have the site at all (or walk away... 'be happy the site is still up!'). Only an asshole would need to fall back on whether they had LEGALLY delivered to their fans. They should want to do something really special with the site to give the loyal fans a real treat. Prince doesn't seem to care.
Prince will continue to have shitty business practices as long as people continue to say he can do whatever he wants. I rather he not even have a "fanclub" if he is not going to deliever as promise and have no real customer service.
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Reply #40 posted 11/07/09 9:30am

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violetblues said:

The Coachella Creep video in such good quality


Except the video is HORRIBLE quality.
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Reply #41 posted 11/07/09 11:01am

violetblues

BartVanHemelen said:

violetblues said:

The Coachella Creep video in such good quality


Except the video is HORRIBLE quality.



Its not bad at all, at least a heck of a lot better than anything else on the net for that show.
My biggest gripe is still the choppy video quality, ..and its not my connection or my computer, i have no such problems with any other multimedia on the net.
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Reply #42 posted 11/07/09 2:02pm

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I have yet to join and just keep checking in to see if I am missing anything. Well if I lived in Minneapolis and got a change to see him play live a couple of weeks ago I would have saved $8.79. That's the only new benifit that I have heard so far. I want to join but I don't want to end up pissed. I don't like being pissed at anybody or anything; who does?
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Reply #43 posted 11/07/09 2:29pm

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I didn't participate in the poll and I'm a happy customer.
I only recently joined, couldn't make the French concerts but I have still 10 months of membership so I expect to see more come my way.
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Reply #44 posted 11/07/09 3:20pm

Vendetta1

Bohemian67 said:

I didn't participate in the poll and I'm a happy customer.
I only recently joined, couldn't make the French concerts but I have still 10 months of membership so I expect to see more come my way.
there are only four months left.
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Reply #45 posted 11/07/09 5:03pm

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lol
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Reply #46 posted 11/08/09 12:49am

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Unless we get something major added like an album of outtakes then this will go down as the worst thing Prince has ever done.

I think it will be disgraceful if at the end of the year we haven't had any major updates to the site considering the the suggestion before hand and all the talk of 10 album of vault material ready to go.

I never expected 10 albums but I did expect lots of never before seen videos and a couple of full concerts at

Out of 10 so far the site for me gets a 2.

The additions in the last few months are still just morsels compared to what they suggested would be on the site.

However it can't be judge until the year is up and I still have a little hope.
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Reply #47 posted 11/08/09 1:11am

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mushmackalenta said:

Unless we get something major added like an album of outtakes then this will go down as the worst thing Prince has ever done.

I think it will be disgraceful if at the end of the year we haven't had any major updates to the site considering the the suggestion before hand and all the talk of 10 album of vault material ready to go.

I never expected 10 albums but I did expect lots of never before seen videos and a couple of full concerts at

Out of 10 so far the site for me gets a 2.

The additions in the last few months are still just morsels compared to what they suggested would be on the site.

However it can't be judge until the year is up and I still have a little hope.


I agree. It would have been nice to see the Paisley Park concert on LF, or Paris, Montreux, Monaco, That said, I cant log on to the bloody thing half the time, and when I do the vids are still choppy, they should have sorted it out by now. Whats the point of putting something on there thats not good quality.
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Reply #48 posted 11/08/09 6:11am

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mushmackalenta said:

Unless we get something major added like an album of outtakes then this will go down as the worst thing Prince has ever done.

I think it will be disgraceful if at the end of the year we haven't had any major updates to the site considering the the suggestion before hand and all the talk of 10 album of vault material ready to go.

I never expected 10 albums but I did expect lots of never before seen videos and a couple of full concerts at

Out of 10 so far the site for me gets a 2.

The additions in the last few months are still just morsels compared to what they suggested would be on the site.

However it can't be judge until the year is up and I still have a little hope.


I think it can be judged now. Prince is well aware of how much he's ripping his fans off, and he certainly knows the anger and frustration that the site has caused. He WANTS his fans to be upset. If he didn't, he would do something about it. I think he might, just might, add some more content at the end, but at that point it will just be one more fuck-you to the fans.
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Reply #49 posted 11/08/09 11:41am

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all i'll say is

thank funk for the Lotus tv TRW dvd

although nothing to do with officialdom

4 me-its rescued my Lotus opinion a little

finally-the vids in good quality and sounding great on my home cinema

we should've been able to do this freely and easily from the get go
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Reply #50 posted 11/08/09 11:59am

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Efan said:

mushmackalenta said:

Unless we get something major added like an album of outtakes then this will go down as the worst thing Prince has ever done.

I think it will be disgraceful if at the end of the year we haven't had any major updates to the site considering the the suggestion before hand and all the talk of 10 album of vault material ready to go.

I never expected 10 albums but I did expect lots of never before seen videos and a couple of full concerts at

Out of 10 so far the site for me gets a 2.

The additions in the last few months are still just morsels compared to what they suggested would be on the site.

However it can't be judge until the year is up and I still have a little hope.


I think it can be judged now. Prince is well aware of how much he's ripping his fans off, and he certainly knows the anger and frustration that the site has caused. He WANTS his fans to be upset. If he didn't, he would do something about it. I think he might, just might, add some more content at the end, but at that point it will just be one more fuck-you to the fans.


I really don't hold out much hope and so far it's been a massive rip off but if he were to add a couple of albums from the vault and both were full of outtakes from the 1980's I'm sure most of us would be very happy.

Therefore I really think we have to wait until the year is up.
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Reply #51 posted 11/08/09 12:19pm

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mushmackalenta said:

Efan said:



I think it can be judged now. Prince is well aware of how much he's ripping his fans off, and he certainly knows the anger and frustration that the site has caused. He WANTS his fans to be upset. If he didn't, he would do something about it. I think he might, just might, add some more content at the end, but at that point it will just be one more fuck-you to the fans.


I really don't hold out much hope and so far it's been a massive rip off but if he were to add a couple of albums from the vault and both were full of outtakes from the 1980's I'm sure most of us would be very happy.

Therefore I really think we have to wait until the year is up.

Some of these people will never b happy. If P released all of their favorite outtakes and boots, it wouldn't help. They would still complain.
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Reply #52 posted 11/08/09 12:40pm

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daPrettyman said:

mushmackalenta said:



I really don't hold out much hope and so far it's been a massive rip off but if he were to add a couple of albums from the vault and both were full of outtakes from the 1980's I'm sure most of us would be very happy.

Therefore I really think we have to wait until the year is up.

Some of these people will never b happy. If P released all of their favorite outtakes and boots, it wouldn't help. They would still complain.


Is that supposed to mean me? Because it's absolutely untrue if so. I wouldn't complain about the website if he actually made an effort to stop stealing from his fans.
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Reply #53 posted 11/08/09 1:16pm

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Efan said:

daPrettyman said:


Some of these people will never b happy. If P released all of their favorite outtakes and boots, it wouldn't help. They would still complain.


Is that supposed to mean me? Because it's absolutely untrue if so. I wouldn't complain about the website if he actually made an effort to stop stealing from his fans.

No, not at all. I wasn't talking about you. I was just speaking in general. There are LOTS of people on here that I can think of that won't be happy no matter what he does.
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Reply #54 posted 11/08/09 4:23pm

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Any official unreleased material being made available for members to download would end up getting to non-members almost straight away anyway so wouldn't people still feel ripped off?
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Reply #55 posted 11/08/09 5:15pm

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Any official unreleased material being made available for members to download would end up getting to non-members almost straight away anyway so wouldn't people still feel ripped off?
It's really unfair that that happens Nick, but I expect it to. It happens from members sharing and now Prince is doing it. I really don't see the point of an official site. Not without boards anyway.
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Reply #56 posted 11/08/09 5:28pm

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Vendetta1 said:

Fauxie said:

Any official unreleased material being made available for members to download would end up getting to non-members almost straight away anyway so wouldn't people still feel ripped off?
It's really unfair that that happens Nick, but I expect it to. It happens from members sharing and now Prince is doing it. I really don't see the point of an official site. Not without boards anyway.


I think he should stop worrying about websites and concentrate on albums and tours. If he wants to release some old vault stuff then do it the regular way, for everybody. No people sharing, no people feeling suckered, less illegal copying, just music in the hands of whoever wants to go buy it.
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Reply #57 posted 11/08/09 5:30pm

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Vendetta1 said:

It's really unfair that that happens Nick, but I expect it to. It happens from members sharing and now Prince is doing it. I really don't see the point of an official site. Not without boards anyway.


I think he should stop worrying about websites and concentrate on albums and tours. If he wants to release some old vault stuff then do it the regular way, for everybody. No people sharing, no people feeling suckered, less illegal copying, just music in the hands of whoever wants to go buy it.
I agree.
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Reply #58 posted 11/08/09 5:40pm

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Vendetta1 said:

Fauxie said:



I think he should stop worrying about websites and concentrate on albums and tours. If he wants to release some old vault stuff then do it the regular way, for everybody. No people sharing, no people feeling suckered, less illegal copying, just music in the hands of whoever wants to go buy it.
I agree.


I'm a fan who's lost his interest. Someone like me doesn't pay $77 to join the site, but I would buy an album like that if he put it out.
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Reply #59 posted 11/08/09 5:47pm

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Fauxie said:

Any official unreleased material being made available for members to download would end up getting to non-members almost straight away anyway so wouldn't people still feel ripped off?


But that's the same with anything he releases. People who bought an album could feel ripped off at the people who downloaded it for free. That shouldn't stop him from delivering an efficient website.

And of course, I think a lot of us expected he would play more than five concerts this year...
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