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Thread started 05/31/09 10:49am

Lotus2unfld

The 3Ms, Music, Message, and My take on the site Message

First of all, I'd like to say... (though I'm not sure as of yet, as to the has any relevance) ...I'd like to point out that it appears that most folks interestingly enough first checked out Mplssound album (yep, I still call em albums) and then LotusFlower and then lastly Elixer. Kind of like reading a book from right to left. (as opposed from reading from left to right as we tend to do in the english speaking states) As I said, I'm not sure that it has any relevance as of yet but ... but ironically ... that's the way it went.
so who knows? we'll see. Could have been that people were drawn in that way because of the Chocolate Box video. Which is interesting.


however lets start with there (the right to left thing)... since that seems to be the way it went for most folks.
We enter the site and see the three different worlds .. which to me is reminiscent of the belt of Orion. if intended, and I will take it that way for now, we now have an idea of where in the universe or section or window of the universe we are centering our focus on. Which could also be relevant ... later on. Not sure ... that's just another 'keep under the hat' for now thing.

However, Orion rises in the East. As does the sun... at the beginning of a new day. The 8th day as I like to call it.
That's the one good thing about my living in this particular desert I happen to live in. It's the only other place in the world (aside from the Sahara) that Date Palms grow, and it's great for star gazing at night. but enough about me, back to the scene on the site.

Getting back to the aspect of the representation of the belt of Orion. I dont know for sure if that's intended ...but lets say it is (for arguments sake) and of course as we all know, Prince is in the center. Also could be reminiscent of a sun. being in the center. Especially with the LotusFlower of light forming the top half of his head. Kind of like a crown, with the firey spear of light shooting up at the center also like a sun... and definately very spiritual and philosophical in context. No doubt about that. I mean this all simulanteanously. Prince has got quite a deep mind. He's a deep thinker. Very probably quite analytical. You can bet your boots on it. If I'm seeing it right.

As for me, I tend to draw in a lots of information....intellectually, enviromentally, sensory, spiritually,.,,. etc. Then afterward I tend analyize, chew on it awhile, then assimulate and actually intergrate that information into my innermost being. Kinda like a seed that has to germinate before breaking ground.
So when I know, I really know it ...I'm become that information... so to speak. Then I can use that assimulation to come up with creative ways to create or recreate whatever it is I'm dealing with. That's just me. That's a difference.
I am a very intelligent woman but it's pretty clear that Prince is smarter and more aware than I am....more aware of things than a lot of folks probably.

One can see that by just looking at this site and the concepts presented there within. And he's probably a very fast thinker.
I dont put claims on being a lightening fast thinker...right off the bat in the beginning when drawing in something new....
but when the tree is mature and the fruit of it comes forth, once assimulated ... well.. they can't catch me.
I can be standing way down the street looking back waving at em before they even got their car out of first gear. (so to speak)
I aside from that I able see them coming ... two, three and four steps ahead of what they've taken. Which is useful. It can also be a drawback... I've learned for a couple reasons. But that's a completely different topic. I would like to stay on point.

I'm just making a very general statement about life in general. About life and achievement, people, personalities, how we as living beings learn in life, in order to be all that we can be. Becoming all that we can - Becoming the best we can be, Which is what this site and the music is about. So its appropro.


I'm not trying to say I'm all that ...no.... not like that. I've made a couple of mistakes...had a few mishaps in life and missed the boat, train, and plane, too. Well actually, I experienced the train running over my lips and the rest of me too a few times, backing up and running over me again. But, I saw it coming though. LOL. Which was not fun. I just couldn't seem to get my foot off the track.. lol. Yeah, room for improvement there. 'Be the train, Be the train.'

Oh Wait, Better yet, Be the LIGHT that blows the train clean off the track. I'd function much better and more effienciently that way.
I already know this. Just didn't get the instruction manuel with the download from Father. Conceptually speaking that's been an occupational hazard over the years... in many ways. That's about to change, for me. Ok, all metaphors aside, after the little detour off the side of the road... lets jump back on the road and get back to the message in the music. smile
(women drivers eh?) heheHehehe


So, lets dive in.... break it down .... go track by track ...and see where we come up at. Whose game? This should be fun ... folks and fellow fans. smile
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Reply #1 posted 05/31/09 11:03am

xlr8r

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You are going to get crucified. Well, maybe you wont since I mentioned it.
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Reply #2 posted 05/31/09 12:12pm

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i read the first paragraph then ya lost me so i went to the end...

If it helps me to become a better Prince fan.... I'm in

now what... lol


do you have a diagram?
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Reply #3 posted 06/01/09 7:57am

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I enjoyed reading your post...The first Prince line that came into mind was..."I needed someone with a quicker wit than mine, Dorothy was fast."

What I know about the consellation "Orion," is based on the greek god that was in search of or(hunted) the 9 muses, which are all goddesses of the arts.

Self expression in any artistic way is definitely the brighter aspect of living.

I guess your post was just random thought about driving your own life...and all I can think of is Prince singing, "Lady Cab Driver, let me take you around the world"...And I would reply, as I'm sure U would, "sure honey, can I have the keyz Pleaze." razz
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Reply #4 posted 06/02/09 4:48pm

Lotus2unfld

PharkyorLOVE said:

i read the first paragraph then ya lost me so i went to the end...

If it helps me to become a better Prince fan.... I'm in

now what... lol


do you have a diagram?



Cool. You rock. btw.... I would like to add a couple more comments on a couple of the graphics within the site before we start talking about the tracks song by song. If that's cool with you? I think you'll begin to see .,.how there is a pretty awesome theme all through the site., from one album to the other. And of course if you have anything you want to add ...while we go through it song by song... then by all means
share it with us smile


I'll try to post more later tonight. sorry I took so long to get back.

peace
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Reply #5 posted 06/02/09 5:00pm

Lotus2unfld

xlr8r said:

You are going to get crucified. Well, maybe you wont since I mentioned it.



Yeah, well "to all the haters on the internet, somebody's lookin at you" lol



Yeah, thanks for the flashlight on it.

We'll see.

Shouldn't be a crime to talk about music and the message in it.



peace
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Reply #6 posted 06/02/09 5:22pm

Lotus2unfld

Tame said:

I enjoyed reading your post...The first Prince line that came into mind was..."I needed someone with a quicker wit than mine, Dorothy was fast."

What I know about the consellation "Orion," is based on the greek god that was in search of or(hunted) the 9 muses, which are all goddesses of the arts.

Self expression in any artistic way is definitely the brighter aspect of living.

I guess your post was just random thought about driving your own life...and all I can think of is Prince singing, "Lady Cab Driver, let me take you around the world"...And I would reply, as I'm sure U would, "sure honey, can I have the keyz Pleaze." razz



LOL You Are Quick! I like that,Tame. BTW, that was funny ... "can I have the keys, please" lol

Yeah, your right. I veered off the road for a minute .... talking about my own life....just thinking outloud. Then *click* ... had to jump back to the topic. I had to laugh at myself, with the women drivers comment. smile

I like what you had to share about the constellation Orion. I was not aware of the 9 muses correlation to Orion, but that's very interesting.

However, I have to make a correction (I think) tell me what ya'll think ...of this; I was sitting outside last night relaxing ... star gazing and *click* I realized that these planets represented on the site are actually the Handle of the Big Dipper. Which still can be seen in the east just before dawn.


The eyes in the handle of the Big Dipper are the LotusFlow3r and MplsSound albums.... respectively, placement wise. If that makes any sense.

So ... I may have been mistaken on the Orion belt thing, but it still keys in conceptually speaking.

there is more. I've heard it said somewhere here on this site ... that the graphics presented on the LotusFlow3r album were taken from the video game Myst. I don't have time to play video games much these days... though I do like them, however, I'm not convinced. I looked up the video game Myst online and I didn't see it. I didnt see a connection. What I did see, was an image that to me has more to do with Zen, meditation, and overcoming injury to the soul. And soul healing.

The music speaks to these concepts as well, in all three of the albums. The rise of the human spirit ... overcoming oppression and obstacles. A lot of things are being presented for us to drink in... at the risk of being reduntant.

I will elaborate more about how I came to that conclusion later. (on the graphics representing overcoming soul injury and suffering, as opposed the video game Myst.)

Peace and stay funky..... smile
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Reply #7 posted 06/02/09 5:42pm

Lotus2unfld

Tame said:

I enjoyed reading your post...The first Prince line that came into mind was..."I needed someone with a quicker wit than mine, Dorothy was fast."

What I know about the consellation "Orion," is based on the greek god that was in search of or(hunted) the 9 muses, which are all goddesses of the arts.

Self expression in any artistic way is definitely the brighter aspect of living.

I guess your post was just random thought about driving your own life...and all I can think of is Prince singing, "Lady Cab Driver, let me take you around the world"...And I would reply, as I'm sure U would, "sure honey, can I have the keyz Pleaze." razz



Ok Tame, and everybody else here, I'm having some issues posting here. So, try try again and lets see if the system will let this post this time.

Tame If my response (the one I just wrote and attempted to post) shows up a second time, please understand ... the system here was fighting me... on posting. lol.

anyway... to re-iterate what I tried to post a few moments ago ...

First of all.,.. your very quick witted! I like that. You rock. I thought your comments on the belt of Orion were very interesting. I confess I was unaware of the 9 muses involved, but that is an excellent observation and certainly food for thought. smile I like you. smile

However, I also must confess that last night ...I was sitting outside ..relaxing, star gazing ...looked up and realized, *click* that's not the belt of Orion represented in the site, I think I was mistaken there. I think the three planets on the site are actually representing the handle of the Big Dipper. Look carefully, and consider with me if you will; The eyes of the Big Dipper are in the same placement as the LotusFlow3r and the MplsSound albums. Which is pretty deep... and somethin to kick back and trip on.

However, conceptually speaking, and literally, the Big Dipper can still be seen upon the eastern horizon ...just before and during dawn.

So in that light, it still accurately represents.. the New Day concept


I would also like to add this. I have read somewhere on this site where someone thought that the images on the LotusFlow3r were taken from the video game Myst. I do like video games personally, but I don't have time to play them anymore...I have never played Myst before anyway. But I was not convinced tthat the pics on the site were meant to dipict the video game Myst. It seemed to me to have more to do with Zen, soul injury, suffering and overcoming it.

Prince is the Red or some say Purple comet coming into the planet


I have a reason for saying this. But that will have to come later...as we anaylize the site.

The message in many of the tracks on all three albums also seem to speak to the concept of this kind of thing.

Even the instrumental track of 77 Beverly Park... speaks volumes without actually speaking, in my humble opinion. but more on that later.


in the meanwhile, tell me what you think ... about belt of Orion represented on the site as opposed to the handle of the Big Dipper.


Peace smile
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Reply #8 posted 06/02/09 7:50pm

zzarr

We must remember that the site is still new and it really is a work in progress so lets not be too judgemental as prince fans and see it for what it is supposed too be a new journey that he wants to share with everyone of his true fans. who waits for each new project but make the mistake of compareing with the old.
keep it funky!
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Reply #9 posted 06/03/09 12:41am

Nosferatu

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Lotus2unfld said:

xlr8r said:

You are going to get crucified. Well, maybe you wont since I mentioned it.



Yeah, well "to all the haters on the internet, somebody's lookin at you" lol
peace



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Reply #10 posted 06/03/09 2:27am

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Lotus2unfld said:

Tame said:

I enjoyed reading your post...The first Prince line that came into mind was..."I needed someone with a quicker wit than mine, Dorothy was fast."

What I know about the consellation "Orion," is based on the greek god that was in search of or(hunted) the 9 muses, which are all goddesses of the arts.

Self expression in any artistic way is definitely the brighter aspect of living.

I guess your post was just random thought about driving your own life...and all I can think of is Prince singing, "Lady Cab Driver, let me take you around the world"...And I would reply, as I'm sure U would, "sure honey, can I have the keyz Pleaze." razz



Ok Tame, and everybody else here, I'm having some issues posting here. So, try try again and lets see if the system will let this post this time.

Tame If my response (the one I just wrote and attempted to post) shows up a second time, please understand ... the system here was fighting me... on posting. lol.

anyway... to re-iterate what I tried to post a few moments ago ...

First of all.,.. your very quick witted! I like that. You rock. I thought your comments on the belt of Orion were very interesting. I confess I was unaware of the 9 muses involved, but that is an excellent observation and certainly food for thought. smile I like you. smile

However, I also must confess that last night ...I was sitting outside ..relaxing, star gazing ...looked up and realized, *click* that's not the belt of Orion represented in the site, I think I was mistaken there. I think the three planets on the site are actually representing the handle of the Big Dipper. Look carefully, and consider with me if you will; The eyes of the Big Dipper are in the same placement as the LotusFlow3r and the MplsSound albums. Which is pretty deep... and somethin to kick back and trip on.

However, conceptually speaking, and literally, the Big Dipper can still be seen upon the eastern horizon ...just before and during dawn.

So in that light, it still accurately represents.. the New Day concept


I would also like to add this. I have read somewhere on this site where someone thought that the images on the LotusFlow3r were taken from the video game Myst. I do like video games personally, but I don't have time to play them anymore...I have never played Myst before anyway. But I was not convinced tthat the pics on the site were meant to dipict the video game Myst. It seemed to me to have more to do with Zen, soul injury, suffering and overcoming it.

Prince is the Red or some say Purple comet coming into the planet


I have a reason for saying this. But that will have to come later...as we anaylize the site.

The message in many of the tracks on all three albums also seem to speak to the concept of this kind of thing.

Even the instrumental track of 77 Beverly Park... speaks volumes without actually speaking, in my humble opinion. but more on that later.


in the meanwhile, tell me what you think ... about belt of Orion represented on the site as opposed to the handle of the Big Dipper.


Peace smile


far too many religious people round here, at least its not the same as real life...
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Reply #11 posted 06/03/09 3:35am

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lol-careful-you get struck down for far less
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Reply #12 posted 06/03/09 5:08am

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I checked out Lotus first, so didn't feel the need to read the rest of the post.
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Reply #13 posted 06/03/09 11:10pm

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Lotus2unfld said,
"First of all, I'd like to say... (though I'm not sure as of yet, as to the has any relevance) ...I'd like to point out that it appears that most folks interestingly enough first checked out Mplssound album (yep, I still call em albums) and then LotusFlower and then lastly Elixer. Kind of like reading a book from right to left."

How do you come up with that conclusion?
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Reply #14 posted 06/05/09 3:14pm

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TheEnglishGent said:

I checked out Lotus first, so didn't feel the need to read the rest of the post.


Likewise. And I wish you had waited a while and let your thoughts become complete before you posted this - if you had a point, you lost it about half-way through your original post.
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Reply #15 posted 06/06/09 10:28am

Lotus2unfld

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TheEnglishGent said:

I checked out Lotus first, so didn't feel the need to read the rest of the post.


Likewise. And I wish you had waited a while and let your thoughts become complete before you posted this - if you had a point, you lost it about half-way through your original post.



I have a point. Several of them. Just trying to find the time to post. Stay frosty. It's gonna be alright.
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Reply #16 posted 06/06/09 10:33am

Lotus2unfld

shellyann said:

Lotus2unfld said,
"First of all, I'd like to say... (though I'm not sure as of yet, as to the has any relevance) ...I'd like to point out that it appears that most folks interestingly enough first checked out Mplssound album (yep, I still call em albums) and then LotusFlower and then lastly Elixer. Kind of like reading a book from right to left."

How do you come up with that conclusion?



btw... Shellyann, I tried to respond to your post a couple of nights ago. The hourglass just hung and hung and wouldn't key in. So I'll try it again.

I am making an assumption. However, the assumption is not completely unfounded.
There have been several in this space that have made that statement.

Perhaps you'd like to take an unofficial poll?

peace
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Reply #17 posted 06/06/09 10:47am

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hey Lotus, love the topic!

i think englishgent might b an old cyber boyfriend of starmaiden?
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Reply #18 posted 06/06/09 12:36pm

Lotus2unfld

zzarr said:

We must remember that the site is still new and it really is a work in progress so lets not be too judgemental as prince fans and see it for what it is supposed too be a new journey that he wants to share with everyone of his true fans. who waits for each new project but make the mistake of compareing with the old.




I hear ya there on the site still being new...and a work in progress. As we all are a work of art still in progress. IMHO.


You mentioned a 'new journey that he wants to share'. Cool. and you mentioned not making the 'mistake of comparing the old'. Okay. Again ... Cool.

Try this on for a test drive. Look at the Pyramids on the Lotus planet. I'm sure you've noticed the garden atmosphere overlay ... with the green leaves, right?

Why do you think that is?

How many song lyrics can you link that to?

Want to give it a try? You first. Then I'll tell ya what I think. I already touched on it a bit..., in a previous posting. Which ... I didn't realize at the time...but now .. I'm thinking it may have more to do with it than I previously realized.

peace.
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Reply #19 posted 06/06/09 1:51pm

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In a world where we are constantly being spoonfed bullshit, it's nice to know that there are still people questioning it's validity.

From Prince, it's like a horoscope in the Sunday Paper at this point.
It seems tangeable, but it's exactly what he thinks you want to hear...

Prost!
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we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #20 posted 06/07/09 12:54pm

Lotus2unfld

SapphireStream said:[quote]hey Lotus, love the topic!


I had intended to post this in chronological order going disk by disk, track by track. However, it's not goin that way. It's okay that, cuz it still relates I think. Anyway, from the sphere lets take a look at the video "Seven"

seven video analysis;


As we all know the character in the storyline was at war with her fathers enemies. Not the kind of war that's declared on an actual field of battle but a war more of the unseen, undeclared, yet still employing all the Machivelli style tactics.

The fear in the air at times would be so thick one could cut it with a knife. Paralyzing. After all, these embezzler's, assassins, had murdered her father - so it's only logical she knew her life too was on the line. She knew what they were capable of. Coupled with the fact that she surely was still grieving over the loss of her father while being hit with the war. Surely they hit her hard because she was a threat and there was lot on the line. She was outnumbered to boot. They were not just watching her to look at her, they were attacking her with words, while seeking an opportunity to possibly do her in. As she was the heir. The assassins where not entitled. So with all that in mind, the fight had to be fierce, cautious, subtle but intense and the atmosphere would surely be full of fear at times.

She had to keep moving, keep working, to keep trying to outsmart them. So, she found herself having to cut her emotions, set them to the side. So she could think. The fear would build again, and she would have to cut her emotions
again, set them to the side again. While whole life is passing her by as she was clearly isolated, caught up in battling this terrible war.

Thus becoming colder and colder. Until she could feel nothing at all but numb, something completely in opposition of her true self.

Though she knew it wasn't healthy. But what else could she do? She was doing what she had to do to survive the war. Living in a strange paradox. Being beat up with her own inheritance. That must have
felt very strange. Who could imagine it?

This kind of undesirable, inenviable circustance would most assuredly cause some damage to one's soul and emotional self.

So we see an older video on the site ...and some state "Oh Prince just threw us a bunch of old stuff on this sight we already had" but... filling it in, the deeper message, the one missed by most is still relavent to the new, I should think. I think there's more of a reason than one might guess. There is also the new desert performance - medley. Which I adore. "War no more." Good message. Something to think on.

Whether it was intended that way or not ..or just a statement about the current mid-east conflict/ political situation alone...I don't know. It could go more ways than one, I suppose.
But it's a good message regardless.

There is more one could analysis about the Seven video. Such as the purpose of the 3 chains of gold, who, why and what that was ... etc. but I think the basic overlay is the main point here.

Many suffer many injury to the human spirit in this life. Under various circustances for various reasons ... of various intensity's, the human spirit can and must rise above
to be free. To regain or maintain our sense of individual independence and fire again. To be the best that we can be.



anyone have anything to add? feel free. any corrections or other opinions? feel free.


peace.

next one I'll post on the Crimson and Clover video.
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Reply #21 posted 06/07/09 2:33pm

Lotus2unfld

one last thing on the video 'Seven';


In the fantasy, the video... the girl knew the 3 chains of gold held power to defeat the enemies. That's pretty clear. Subtle but clear.
But like her inheritance she couldn't access it. It could be she
didn't know how to or fully understand it's spiritual significance, even though it was given to her by God.
However, in the fantasy, it would appear that the Lover did understand something about it. How to access it, how to use it to defeat the enemies, as we see the enemies defeated, though that would not be the original purpose....more or less... of the 3 chains, therefore she naturally would be fearful of God destroying the Lover for using it.
It would seem in the fantasy there was much she still had to learn, understand and wake up to.


On that note, there is much we as people have to learn in our journey through this life, much to understand about ourselves and much to wake up to .. within the world around us.

This is my take on it. I am glad that Prince and Lotusflow3r put this video on the sphere because it gave me a chance to check it out. It's a great looking video.
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Reply #22 posted 06/08/09 9:30am

Lotus2unfld

On the Crimson and Clover video,


I don't pretend to understand what the idea between Crimson and Clover actually means.
However, Crimson = red = passion, and Clover = green= peace or peaceful. 'fields of clover... passion and luck ? possibly?

Maybe all of the above, but I'm inclined to go with the first take for now... the passion and sense of peace. "What a beautiful feeling" the song says.

Love I suppose could bring a sense of passion and peace ... all in one. In the video
which is very sixties, (so is the song, actually) but one can't help but notice the
Mandala's within the video. Now I didn't know what a Mandala was ... until very recently... after viewing the video. Interesting. There's a lot of psychodelic colors, but if you look more closely ... it looks more like Energy fields.
Positive energy fields coupled with Mandalas. Manadalas are said to be used to help in the holistic healing arts, and for the purpose of bringing forth focus.
Some of those energy fields ... look like Love energy. The other's I
dont know what they are, exactly, I'm not that adept at that sort of thing.
Maybe it's just art .... then again there just might be more to it than first meets the eye, so to speak. Maybe the art is meant to represent or dipict certain types of energy fields. If that be so,then there's a message in it. But back to the Mandalas...to focus.


Focus is good. One can't really do anything unless they can see it clearly first in their minds eye...IMHO.

but going from the Crimson and Clover video over to the graphics on that planet ... well that's very interesting. And would all appear to be linked. connected.
first we start at the first graphic. I've seen this place before many years ago, in a dream. A dream that actually turned out to be prophetic in part way back then.


Yeah I know it sounds weird. And it's really, really strange to see this scene dipicted. Made me do a double take. lol
It's quite a coicidence to see this again. It's almost identical. Very close.

If Prince and the people at the Lotusflow3r site meant something different, I wished they'd say something, because the scene is so close to something I've seen before, I can't really see it in any other terms. It's pulling on some old forgotten memories. Kind of in my face.

There was another comet with me, but I don't recall now the color of it. I was thinking it was red. I was an emerald green comet. But none the less..... I don't think this was taken from the game Myst. I think this is speaking to something different.


It's called the planet of death, from what I understood. But it's not really... it's actually a place of endless suffering. Which I guess is just as bad. However, the planet is not earth.

Whats really interesting, when we all enter the site itself, we are all turned into a comet and transported to another space, where we have three different planets to choose from that we can go to. Pretty cool eh?. In a lot of ways. None of which are the planet of death or ... aka... the planet of suffering.

The only way to escape the planet of death ....i.e. the planet of suffering is to find a way to be turned back into a comet and lift off from the planet ...flying through the universe.

The reason for being sent to such a place? Lack of focus. Lack of meditiation and focus. I used to think chanting was a sin and therefore something not to be done. I grew up hearing that it was a sin and not to be done. These days, I'm not so sure that's correct information for several reasons that I think I shall not get into here.

Now that I've done a good job of convincing everyone that reads this that I'm completely insane... I'll make my point.
So, "Come, let us dine at the table of good reason...."

The point is, the LotusFlower while under the murky waters ..in its seed pod form, might be like a person who is sitting under water in a toxic enviroment, asleep, blind ... whose eyes have not yet opened, but who must focus their mental energies ..to rise above the confusion and toxic atmosphere. i.e. the murky waters and mirey clay and bloom transforming from hidden seed pod buried in muck to beautiful flower in the sunshine.

So in the first graphic we see Prince, coming into the planet of death or ...some might say the planet of suffering... as a comet, with the Lotus Flower Light on the face of the comet. The Lotus is in bloom, is light, enlightened, and very probably able to transform back and forth into the comet at will. Which is the power of freedom to choose. (I think).

The person on the planet ... which remarkably looks like Prince also, has not learned that trick yet. But clearly will soon... Once he has learned to turn back into the comet he can leave that desolate, isolated ...unhappy place.

Will the man on the planet escape? In a word... Yes.


all the graphics on the LotusFlower disk seem to me to be linked.
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Reply #23 posted 06/09/09 2:18pm

Lotus2unfld

more on the Crimson and Clover video...


I think this site and the music within it, has many layers. Many meanings. Something for everyone. One can pick and choose from their own level of understanding and take from it what they want. Some just see sex.(which is pretty hot, wink
Some don't see sex at all. Some just see music. Some just see older music. Some see mystic, Some see spirituality.
Some see something else.
I think it has it all. It's all that and a bag o chips. smile

For me, I'm trippin' ...cuz I'm seeing some old forgotten memories nobody knew about.
Shoot, some even I'd nearly forgotten about myself. I'm not sure what's going on.... but ... I'm willing to take a good long look. Try to figure this out.

As for the Crimson and 'Clover video ... placed within the pyramids .... that's very interesting, indeed.

I hope I'm seeing this right.I hope I didn't take a left turn somewhere and have fallen completely off the side of the road. lol
I can't drive in a straight line. lol. sheesh. Well I can, but I can't...sometimes. lol. This is gettin kinda deep. However, lemme keep goin. Hope I don't get lost. smile

So lets keep it simple; with that said....

Regarding the garden overlay on the pyramids... that's very interesting. Beautiful, and interesting. Reminds me of two lovers in the garden of Eden.

Which also reminds me of the lyrics to Te Amo Corazon on the sphere.
"My love, my heart", or "I love you my heart". My spanish isn't that great.(forgotten a lot of that too, lol) But it's something like that.
The lyrics say, My heart, My heart. So we'll can go with that.

It's a very beautiful love song... it's playing in my head now as I write.

In the song it says.... "42,000 feet above the sea"..... well it's clear
there's really only one place that could be. Which was not too terribly far from Giza.

So both the song and the image overlay remind me of the Garden. Of two lovers in the Garden or that where from there, originally.

The two pyramids, not the three... but the two pyramids of Giza.

As an aside; the Pyramids in Giza incidently, are situated along the Nile river.... like a mirror image of sorts of the belt of Orion, in it's position to the Milky Way. But I think everybody knows that.

But these two pyramids are the Kings and the Kings counterpart. Built for them.
For a reason. For several reasons actually. I should think.

Now I don't know why Prince put that image up there. And in that position ... but...hmmmmm.....
I don't know for sure...

But, as I had stated in a previous protracted conversation with minitureamazon
posted on some other string...regarding the powers of Tumiset... and the oblong room.
The oblong shaped room is located within those Pyramids. I'm sure of it.

The statue in that room struck me like a ton of bricks when I saw Prince on Superbowl concert video on the sphere. The statue in the oblong room looks like the shadow on the curtain at the Superbowl show.

And as I mentioned there really is a statue shaped like that...in real life. Or at least there was...long ago.

Am I suggesting that Prince is God? No. We all know (or most of us do) that God is God. Prince knows that too. He gives credit to God all the time.

I'm just saying that the music and these images Prince is presenting before us on the site may not be as random as one may think and they deserve to be condsidered. The lights are on in Prince's head, and there is definately somebody home. I think he's saying a lot more than we give him credit for. He deserves better from us than that.
We deserve better from ourselves than to go through life distracted, unaware,steeped in confusion, blind and semi-comatose to whats going on around us and within ourselves ...as well. All those things are toxic and the enemy's toolbox to keep us from rising up to be the best we can be.

If he didn't mean anything by it, it looks great. But I'm thinking there's more there than first meets the eye.

From what little I know about the Pyramids... I was under the impression that
they were a tombs, according to the documtaries I've seen in the past on the subject.
However, I dont think that was their only purpose.

The oblong room was for a ceremony for something quite the opposite of death. It was for the renewel of life. And I'm kinda thinking that's what the Pyramids are really about. Even when the King and Kings counterparts are laid to rest there...it wasn't for the purpose of a tomb... but maybe connected to an idea that had more to do with the preservation of and renewel of life. Rebirth...
conceptually speaking ...in all kinds of ways. that's just my take on it... I am not an expert in Eygptology by any means. I'm just talking about concepts.

The word Tumiset really is a real word ... pertaining to sexuality and it's power and a special kind of energy, between king and counterpart.

And that power is used for a purpose.

Note to minitureamazon;

(I did find the dictionary I thought I had looked it up in...but it's not there now. Somebody must have switched my dictionary! LOL. yeah yeah yeah.... that's it.... THAT'S What it is! Daggummit, people always in my stuff! lol. Movin my papers around, drivin me nuts. LOL!)


No, but seriously, I cannot find now the source, but just know that it is a real word.


At the risk of repeating myself, the ceremony in that room, between the King and the Kings Counterpart would have been one for the renewel of life in the land. Spring.
Green leaves and new crops ... all that and a bag of chips.

The King is the husband to the land and therefore connected to it spiritually. The Kings Counterpart is the mother to the land. She perserves life...part of her purpose ... or whatever you want to call it.
In this ceremony, the statue has some sort of energy vibe running through it..only the king and counterpart can access. Sooooo...it would be more like;


o/~ I don't want to kiss your lips
o/~ Until I get your *boom*
o/~ Your hips!

lol. Yep...I'm pretty sure that's how that goes. No one knows what went on in there cuz that room was private and off limits to all...no one was allowed in except for the king and the counterpart, at that part of the ceremony.





But hey, I'm not saying that these lyrics are connected in anyway... cuz .. I'm swimming off in this so deep ...I'm not sure of anything at this point. lol.

I just thought it was interesting ... the Pyramids there on the site.
[Edited 6/9/09 14:40pm]
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Reply #24 posted 06/10/09 3:05pm

Lotus2unfld

well, gettin tired of listening to the sound of my own echo here.

folks are reading... but no one is speakin'.

no one agree's ....disagree's...has any other thought / idea to contribute?

Do I have to do ALL the work here. ? I mean I dont mind, but at least somebody raise up now and then and let me know your gettin somethin from it. lol. sheesh,

Isn't there at least ...at least one other person on the planet that like's to anaylize? Kick back and kinda trip on things? Consider concepts?
Surely.... there's gotta be somebody.

maybe not. I don't know, therefore I am ...as a friend used to say.

peace
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Lotus2unfld said:

well, gettin tired of listening to the sound of my own echo here.

folks are reading... but no one is speakin'.

no one agree's ....disagree's...has any other thought / idea to contribute?

Do I have to do ALL the work here. ? I mean I dont mind, but at least somebody raise up now and then and let me know your gettin somethin from it. lol. sheesh,

Isn't there at least ...at least one other person on the planet that like's to anaylize? Kick back and kinda trip on things? Consider concepts?
Surely.... there's gotta be somebody.

maybe not. I don't know, therefore I am ...as a friend used to say.

peace


Not 2 worry my Dear Friend..Me Miniatureamazon, I'm here and there..actually all over the place, U can feel me in the wind and rain..oops am I getting poetic lol ..I'm always tripping on things, flying so high in my thoughts..and yes U r right 2 ask "Do I have to do ALL the work here? " We people in general should "work" more 2 understand the profound meanings and not just b content the obvious, the surface..

I'll b back soon cool

Peace and patience

yes
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Reply #26 posted 06/11/09 6:02am

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Lotus2unfld said:

On the Crimson and Clover video,


I don't pretend to understand what the idea between Crimson and Clover actually means.
However, Crimson = red = passion, and Clover = green= peace or peaceful. 'fields of clover... passion and luck ? possibly?

Maybe all of the above, but I'm inclined to go with the first take for now... the passion and sense of peace. "What a beautiful feeling" the song says.

Love I suppose could bring a sense of passion and peace ... all in one. In the video
which is very sixties, (so is the song, actually) but one can't help but notice the
Mandala's within the video. Now I didn't know what a Mandala was ... until very recently... after viewing the video. Interesting. There's a lot of psychodelic colors, but if you look more closely ... it looks more like Energy fields.
Positive energy fields coupled with Mandalas. Manadalas are said to be used to help in the holistic healing arts, and for the purpose of bringing forth focus.
Some of those energy fields ... look like Love energy. The other's I
dont know what they are, exactly, I'm not that adept at that sort of thing.
Maybe it's just art .... then again there just might be more to it than first meets the eye, so to speak. Maybe the art is meant to represent or dipict certain types of energy fields. If that be so,then there's a message in it. But back to the Mandalas...to focus.


Focus is good. One can't really do anything unless they can see it clearly first in their minds eye...IMHO.

but going from the Crimson and Clover video over to the graphics on that planet ... well that's very interesting. And would all appear to be linked. connected.
first we start at the first graphic. I've seen this place before many years ago, in a dream. A dream that actually turned out to be prophetic in part way back then.


Yeah I know it sounds weird. And it's really, really strange to see this scene dipicted. Made me do a double take. lol
It's quite a coicidence to see this again. It's almost identical. Very close.

If Prince and the people at the Lotusflow3r site meant something different, I wished they'd say something, because the scene is so close to something I've seen before, I can't really see it in any other terms. It's pulling on some old forgotten memories. Kind of in my face.

There was another comet with me, but I don't recall now the color of it. I was thinking it was red. I was an emerald green comet. But none the less..... I don't think this was taken from the game Myst. I think this is speaking to something different.


It's called the planet of death, from what I understood. But it's not really... it's actually a place of endless suffering. Which I guess is just as bad. However, the planet is not earth.

Whats really interesting, when we all enter the site itself, we are all turned into a comet and transported to another space, where we have three different planets to choose from that we can go to. Pretty cool eh?. In a lot of ways. None of which are the planet of death or ... aka... the planet of suffering.

The only way to escape the planet of death ....i.e. the planet of suffering is to find a way to be turned back into a comet and lift off from the planet ...flying through the universe.

The reason for being sent to such a place? Lack of focus. Lack of meditiation and focus. I used to think chanting was a sin and therefore something not to be done. I grew up hearing that it was a sin and not to be done. These days, I'm not so sure that's correct information for several reasons that I think I shall not get into here.

Now that I've done a good job of convincing everyone that reads this that I'm completely insane... I'll make my point.
So, "Come, let us dine at the table of good reason...."

The point is, the LotusFlower while under the murky waters ..in its seed pod form, might be like a person who is sitting under water in a toxic enviroment, asleep, blind ... whose eyes have not yet opened, but who must focus their mental energies ..to rise above the confusion and toxic atmosphere. i.e. the murky waters and mirey clay and bloom transforming from hidden seed pod buried in muck to beautiful flower in the sunshine.

So in the first graphic we see Prince, coming into the planet of death or ...some might say the planet of suffering... as a comet, with the Lotus Flower Light on the face of the comet. The Lotus is in bloom, is light, enlightened, and very probably able to transform back and forth into the comet at will. Which is the power of freedom to choose. (I think).

The person on the planet ... which remarkably looks like Prince also, has not learned that trick yet. But clearly will soon... Once he has learned to turn back into the comet he can leave that desolate, isolated ...unhappy place.

Will the man on the planet escape? In a word... Yes.


all the graphics on the LotusFlower disk seem to me to be linked.



Hello Friend..now let's get 2 work wink

I go by keys words here..I'm just going with assosiation, if that alright with ya..let's hope some other people join us blahblah

Luck yes I agree with ya the clover is about luck, and what's more interesting that Mr P says in Wall of Berlin that he "doesn't believe in luck" and "U want a 4 leaf clover.." is asked by she..hmmm interesting..so does it mean that Mr P is questioning His beliefs and thinking: "hmm maybe I need 2 broaden my mind" ..2 go deeper; what is actually luck? What do people mean when they r talking about luck..furher more does the word "luck" has different definitions in different cultures ? I know 4 a fact that 4 xample in Mandarin Chinese,which is the oldest still-in-use language, the character "luck" means actually luck, lucky and happiness biggrin Isn't that cool or what?

Ok so that's a little humble start..I'll have some more coming later 2nite cool

Peace and joy yes
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Reply #27 posted 06/11/09 8:00am

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miniatureamazon said:[quote]

Lotus2unfld said:

On the Crimson and Clover video,




>>Hello Friend..now let's get 2 work wink

>>I go by keys words here..I'm just going with assosiation, if that alright >>with ya..let's hope some other people join us blahblah

me:
That'll work ;>

btw...welcome...and glad to hear from ya smile

you said:
Luck yes I agree with ya the clover is about luck, and what's more interesting that Mr P says in Wall of Berlin that he "doesn't believe in luck" and "U want a 4 leaf clover.." is asked by she..hmmm interesting..so does it mean that Mr P is questioning His beliefs and thinking: "hmm maybe I need 2 broaden my mind" ..2 go deeper; what is actually luck? What do people mean when they r talking about luck..furher more does the word "luck" has different definitions in different cultures ? I know 4 a fact that 4 xample in Mandarin Chinese,which is the oldest still-in-use language, the character "luck" means actually luck, lucky and happiness biggrin Isn't that cool or what?


luck and happiness? = th..th.. thex! hehehehehe

ok ok. I couldn't resist that one.



Now ya got that song playin in my head...

you said:
>Ok so that's a little humble start..I'll have some more coming later 2nite cool


cool. I'll give it some thought and wait for your next post...before responding.

Peace and joy yes
[Edited 6/11/09 6:04am]


peace and much love to you too smile

lookin up at the way I responded to your post.... I think I did this wrong. I wrote in your blue box somehow while responding. Oh well. gotta run. have fun. talk to ya soon.
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Reply #28 posted 06/12/09 4:02am

Lotus2unfld

miniatureamazon said:

Lotus2unfld said:

well, gettin tired of listening to the sound of my own echo here.

folks are reading... but no one is speakin'.

no one agree's ....disagree's...has any other thought / idea to contribute?

Do I have to do ALL the work here. ? I mean I dont mind, but at least somebody raise up now and then and let me know your gettin somethin from it. lol. sheesh,

Isn't there at least ...at least one other person on the planet that like's to anaylize? Kick back and kinda trip on things? Consider concepts?
Surely.... there's gotta be somebody.

maybe not. I don't know, therefore I am ...as a friend used to say.

peace


Not 2 worry my Dear Friend..Me Miniatureamazon, I'm here and there..actually all over the place, U can feel me in the wind and rain..oops am I getting poetic lol ..I'm always tripping on things, flying so high in my thoughts..and yes U r right 2 ask "Do I have to do ALL the work here? " We people in general should "work" more 2 understand the profound meanings and not just b content the obvious, the surface..

I'll b back soon cool

Peace and patience

yes
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Reply #29 posted 06/12/09 4:14am

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Lotus2unfld said:[quote]

miniatureamazon said:



Not 2 worry my Dear Friend..Me Miniatureamazon, I'm here and there..actually all over the place, U can feel me in the wind and rain..oops am I getting poetic lol ..I'm always tripping on things, flying so high in my thoughts..and yes U r right 2 ask "Do I have to do ALL the work here? " We people in general should "work" more 2 understand the profound meanings and not just b content the obvious, the surface..

I'll b back soon cool

Peace and patience

yes
[/quote


well I just wrote out a post, and the thing didn't post. sheesh. I hit the button , whats up with that? anyway.... I need to go back and add an addendum, finish the story about the 3 chains o gold; I kinda left that hangin.

then I need to make a correction or actually another addendum, on another post ...something i said ....i probably should not have. hope father wont be anry, He deserves my best always.


in the meanwhile, i'll wait till you've completed your posts on the Crimson and Clover video.


re: the wind and the rains..... *ouch* they should be still now. its time.

my eyes are opening ...once again. I've been so foolish.


anyway;
peace and stay funky girl. be all you can be! always lookin up of course smile
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