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Reply #30 posted 07/03/09 2:59pm

Equanimity

The shirt showing up doesn't make this thread irrelevant at all. neutral
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Reply #31 posted 07/03/09 4:36pm

polkadotbliss

lol-i actually said it so the thread wouldn't die on us.....it had gone a bit flat wink
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Reply #32 posted 07/03/09 5:01pm

Equanimity

I know...i'm backing you up. wink
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Reply #33 posted 07/05/09 5:40am

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Signed.

I should have known better than join Lotusflow3r!
In a couple of hundred years historians may discover that Prince's lyrics were written by Christopher Marlowe.
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Reply #34 posted 07/05/09 4:48pm

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i'm pretty pissed that they've asked me for another $7.

i want a banner @ montreux that says "lotusflow3r the biggest mistake since raveun2thejoyfantastic"
"Sisters and brothers in the purple underground, find peace of mind in the pop sound!"
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Reply #35 posted 07/05/09 5:23pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

Not signing. The 12 months r not up yet. Which means Prince has a few more months 2 redeem himself.No i'm not happy with the site. But I think we will eventually b rewarded if we r patient. Prince never does things the normal average way. SO B PATIENT U FAKE FANS.....GEEZ!
eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #36 posted 07/06/09 12:11am

vinx98

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Not signing. The 12 months r not up yet. Which means Prince has a few more months 2 redeem himself.No i'm not happy with the site. But I think we will eventually b rewarded if we r patient. Prince never does things the normal average way. SO B PATIENT U FAKE FANS.....GEEZ!


I think that you are wrong and we will get nothing - this is a scam and prince will get away with it.
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Reply #37 posted 07/06/09 2:53am

polkadotbliss

i didn't think we won't see anything else-until June ended and the second update promised didn't appear

Now-I seroiusly think something does not seem/feel right about the place at all and wouldn't be at all suprised if the negativity and problems have pissed him off to the point of not giving a stuff about it. I'd bet Prince feels he could have charged us ALOT more for his 'art' and was being generous !

in fairness to them-at first-they always replied to us-quickly too

IF as many folk that come here and moan complained to them-they must have got alot of these complaints.....

so someone decided-to completely switch off for at least 2 weeks-no replies even to lost passwords etc

with all that going on-the latest t shirt mail appears-out of the blue-no mention of ANYTHING else-no explanation for the lost update.....

the tee shirts have been a complete fiasco

and we're 'fake fans' cuz this plainly isn't right..... eek

im not knocking you for not signing-its your chioce-but don't call us fake cuz as you say-we have less patience...?

I wouldn't put up with this lack of service and customer care if i went into a shop-lets say a big name like Marks and Spencers- (Prince is afterall a world wide brand name) so why the hell should i from a musician ? Even more so because he does not do things the normal way ? great for him-totally shit for the customers/fans.....CHARMING SET UP eek

THATS WHY IT FREAKING DON'T WORK. he HAS to play FAIRLY if he wants poeple to trust him and these ventures-and at the moment-plainly he is not

lol-mabey i was that scatty superfan a while back in life-but im not 15 anymore so as an adult tax paying consumer-i have standards that i expect when i spend my money

I hope i'm wrong-but at the moment-all roads lead to a scam

and if im fake for saying that-cool wink
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Reply #38 posted 07/06/09 6:23pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

polkadotbliss said:

i didn't think we won't see anything else-until June ended and the second update promised didn't appear

Now-I seroiusly think something does not seem/feel right about the place at all and wouldn't be at all suprised if the negativity and problems have pissed him off to the point of not giving a stuff about it. I'd bet Prince feels he could have charged us ALOT more for his 'art' and was being generous !

in fairness to them-at first-they always replied to us-quickly too

IF as many folk that come here and moan complained to them-they must have got alot of these complaints.....

so someone decided-to completely switch off for at least 2 weeks-no replies even to lost passwords etc

with all that going on-the latest t shirt mail appears-out of the blue-no mention of ANYTHING else-no explanation for the lost update.....

the tee shirts have been a complete fiasco

and we're 'fake fans' cuz this plainly isn't right..... eek

im not knocking you for not signing-its your chioce-but don't call us fake cuz as you say-we have less patience...?

I wouldn't put up with this lack of service and customer care if i went into a shop-lets say a big name like Marks and Spencers- (Prince is afterall a world wide brand name) so why the hell should i from a musician ? Even more so because he does not do things the normal way ? great for him-totally shit for the customers/fans.....CHARMING SET UP eek

THATS WHY IT FREAKING DON'T WORK. he HAS to play FAIRLY if he wants poeple to trust him and these ventures-and at the moment-plainly he is not

lol-mabey i was that scatty superfan a while back in life-but im not 15 anymore so as an adult tax paying consumer-i have standards that i expect when i spend my money

I hope i'm wrong-but at the moment-all roads lead to a scam

and if im fake for saying that-cool wink

Guess U have a point. But there has 2 b some kind of explanation 4 all this that's happening with the site.A valid reason. Plus i feel with MJ's sudden death that we should give Prince a break and and embrace him. Prince is our last male BLACK superstar left. We did get a gr8 3 cd set from him this year his best in years. I feel it should all wait till the year is almost over.

Please! leave him alone. If Prince is found dead tommorow. How would U feel then?
eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #39 posted 07/06/09 8:18pm

BriaVelveeta

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

polkadotbliss said:

i didn't think we won't see anything else-until June ended and the second update promised didn't appear

Now-I seroiusly think something does not seem/feel right about the place at all and wouldn't be at all suprised if the negativity and problems have pissed him off to the point of not giving a stuff about it. I'd bet Prince feels he could have charged us ALOT more for his 'art' and was being generous !

in fairness to them-at first-they always replied to us-quickly too

IF as many folk that come here and moan complained to them-they must have got alot of these complaints.....

so someone decided-to completely switch off for at least 2 weeks-no replies even to lost passwords etc

with all that going on-the latest t shirt mail appears-out of the blue-no mention of ANYTHING else-no explanation for the lost update.....

the tee shirts have been a complete fiasco

and we're 'fake fans' cuz this plainly isn't right..... eek

im not knocking you for not signing-its your chioce-but don't call us fake cuz as you say-we have less patience...?

I wouldn't put up with this lack of service and customer care if i went into a shop-lets say a big name like Marks and Spencers- (Prince is afterall a world wide brand name) so why the hell should i from a musician ? Even more so because he does not do things the normal way ? great for him-totally shit for the customers/fans.....CHARMING SET UP eek

THATS WHY IT FREAKING DON'T WORK. he HAS to play FAIRLY if he wants poeple to trust him and these ventures-and at the moment-plainly he is not

lol-mabey i was that scatty superfan a while back in life-but im not 15 anymore so as an adult tax paying consumer-i have standards that i expect when i spend my money

I hope i'm wrong-but at the moment-all roads lead to a scam

and if im fake for saying that-cool wink

Guess U have a point. But there has 2 b some kind of explanation 4 all this that's happening with the site.A valid reason. Plus i feel with MJ's sudden death that we should give Prince a break and and embrace him. Prince is our last male BLACK superstar left. We did get a gr8 3 cd set from him this year his best in years. I feel it should all wait till the year is almost over.

Please! leave him alone. If Prince is found dead tommorow. How would U feel then?

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Reply #40 posted 07/07/09 12:43am

LittleSister

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I'm glad I won't have to sign this petition because I never signed up in the first place.
I knew this was going to happen, past behavior is in Prince's case a good indicator for future behavior.

I think you are all being a bit naïve if you think this petition is going to change anything. In my opinion the only way to change the current situation is by means of economic impact.

One way is to send a complaint to your credit card company and demand to retract the payment. If you send a detailed request explaining the situation they will surely investigate the matter.

You could also swallow your losses and decide not to renew your subscription next year. Simply retract your permission to use your creditcard for the renewal (which I suspect to be automatic)
If everybody sends an e-mail to the sales/support team, asking them not to renew their membership next year, you will also have sent a very powerful signal which will not go unnoticed by Prince.
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Reply #41 posted 07/07/09 3:06am

polkadotbliss

i already sent that very request to not renew-about a month ago with no reply.....so far eek

the credit card refund is a good idea-i think they'd listen to them since they ignore us
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Reply #42 posted 07/10/09 3:43am

jethrouk

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It appears that a Mr. P Rogers has signed our petition.

lol

I wonder.

Nearly 150, I wonder how many subscribers there are? Anyone hazzard a guess.
"Sisters and brothers in the purple underground, find peace of mind in the pop sound!"
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Reply #43 posted 07/10/09 6:20am

polkadotbliss

well-apparently someone here on another post thinks as many folk that saw him at the o2 in 2007..... lol lol lol

i'd guess-nowhere near that many-mabey not enough to fill a single night at the o2-mabey an Indigo2 full wink

AND MOST OF THEM/US ARE UNHAPPY sad
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Reply #44 posted 07/10/09 6:25am

polkadotbliss

WOAH.what occured there.?

I posted my last post-and the thread went to the bottom of the forum

Hey Prince-are you a hacker too ?
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Reply #45 posted 07/10/09 7:56am

Bailorin

signed #148
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Reply #46 posted 07/10/09 1:15pm

jethrouk

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we've reached the 150ith milestone. i would say probably about 4850 to go!!!!
"Sisters and brothers in the purple underground, find peace of mind in the pop sound!"
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Reply #47 posted 07/11/09 10:52am

EDD

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signed !
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Reply #48 posted 07/12/09 2:49pm

kimrachell

i didn't join, but i truly feel that it's wrong that there's been no updates, or more added to the site for those of you that did join. hope this petition will lead to more content for you all!
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Reply #49 posted 07/12/09 3:11pm

polkadotbliss

is this petition the same one as they're signing on Prince fams ?

If not-mabey you should join forces on this with their petition too

alot of unhappy folk there too sad
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Reply #50 posted 07/13/09 7:44am

jethrouk

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polkadotbliss said:

is this petition the same one as they're signing on Prince fams ?

If not-mabey you should join forces on this with their petition too

alot of unhappy folk there too sad



not sure, i;'ve never been to that site. do you have a link.?
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Reply #51 posted 07/13/09 8:19am

polkadotbliss

lol-i'll try wink I think it's princefams.com and they too have a forum but I'll nip accross
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Reply #52 posted 07/13/09 8:32am

polkadotbliss

sorry-yeah itrs the same one-Serpan posted a link -i just went there and checked-163 folk so far
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Reply #53 posted 07/13/09 9:47am

makavelli187

jethrouk said:

Lotusflow3r subscribers

Below contains an email I sent to Lotusflow3r support, which I have previously submitted on prince.org.

Both members and moderators of the org. thought the content of the below letter more-or-less expressed the general consensus of the org. and Prince's wider community. A consensus of a general dissatisfaction towards Prince's latest online venture - Lotusflow3r.com

Granted we were not promised anything in particular, but much was hinted or inferred in interviews. This led to many (including myself) signing up to website - and 4 months later nothing substantial has appeared. I personally believe this was a strategic marketing strategy from the Prince camp – who’s ultimate goal was to lure fans into paying a membership (which was never truely going to be delivered).

Equally, the very idea of a membership implies regular updates, regardless of what updates these may be. The website is clearly not delivering on this front either.

Adding additional salt to fans wounds - subscribers still have not received their t-shirts. Many people have moved to focus all their attention towards these t-shirts (as they seem to be the only sizeable thing we will receive). The fact that after 4months, subscribers still have not received these - is simply unacceptable.


If you share these, or similar sentiments or have further comments to add, please sign this petition: http://www.gopetition.com...flow3r.com


It is my opinion (and one shared by others) if we rally ourselves together in a mature and pro-active way - the outcome will be beneficial to all of us!


We all know the potential of this website and what it means to us fans. With collective action I believe the website can become what we want and know it can be.


Please, if you did not sign up to lotusflow3r don't litter this thread with negative comments or flame wars. Equally, if you do not agree, and are satisfied with the site please again do not undermine other people’s opinions of dissatisfaction.

My previous thread was shut for this very issue, and I think it would be more helpful to the fan community if we kept this thread to those that want to voice their opinions in the form of a petition to the Lotusflow3r team.




Please sign the petition
Thank you, JM


http://www.gopetition.com...flow3r.coM


Original email:

"To whom it may concern,

I want to let you know that my intent in writing this email is not to assign blame to the support team. I know that you probably have little control over the content of Lotusflow3r. Nevertheless, I just wanted to convey that nobody (and I do not think this is an exaggeration). Nobody is happy with Prince's website.

I love the design and the concept. As a vessel, for all that is Prince; it has so much potential. However, there was so much promised (infered) in interviews with the creators. No retraction was ever made from Prince to say that these reports were false. Therefore, fans believed they were true.

Basically the Fans of Prince, paid money to get something that I am unsure we’ll ever get. I personally have just finished my degree, I have very little money and I actually went short for a week so I could sign up to this site.

I really want to know if the site is still intended to be something along the lines of that which was conveyed in interviews. Will it be updated regularly? And for a membership site, regularly is every month. I mean my monthly subscription to new scientist gives me five magazines and costs the same a year. It was fortunate that I got said subscription for a present - a luxury that was not afforded with Lotusflow3r.

Recently you uploaded Undertaker, it was good to see that again. But I already own it as it is legally available (see here http://www.amazon.co.uk/U...00004R6P5, as do most of Prince's core fan-base. And ultimately these are the types of fans that signed up to this site.

I am also wondering how much of a direct contact the people that deal with Lotusflow3r have with Prince. Does he actually understand how annoyed and cheated some of his fans feel? If this was a simple disgruntled fan thing I would not bother you.

The fact is I - as have many others - paid for a service; a service which I (we) feel is not being delivered. A service that fans were lead to believe (with media hype) was going to be far more than what was actually delivered, (refer to this article, it is one of many examples http://www.newsweek.com/id/189242.

I mean this site was for the Lotusflow3r albums, and the cd’s are amazing - but the site isn't. The thing is; it could be! It just seems there was so much hype and it has been forgotten about. And that you will trickle updates out when enough people moan. Updates that are frankly not worth $77. Updates like Prince’s live footage (which you can’t buy) is what fans were expecting. A subscription site that has things that people can buy already just does not seem fair. For examples, Prince video’s are already available on DVDs. It just gives the impression that media was hyped to con people out of their money. And that isn’t fair.

If the delays have anything to do with Prince being ill at the moment - that is totally understandable. And my thoughts and love go out to him if that’s the case. But I would be grateful if you would let fans know what is happening.

Thank you in advance,

JM"




Update: 163 sigs so far

Forgot to add - please pass this on to any other fan community or people you know. Thanks


MJ R.I.P; your music has and will continue to inspire generations
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oh, get over it already, geez!!!!!
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Reply #54 posted 07/13/09 6:45pm

hollywooddove

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signed
We are all so full of doody here
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Reply #55 posted 07/14/09 7:19am

IstenSzek

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165. that's a start. i'm sure if more people would know about this,
the number would be much higher. but it's a very good start.

it's all i can do to keep myself from sending them an email with a
few questions about what the fck they think they're doing over at
the website hq.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #56 posted 07/14/09 2:20pm

polkadotbliss

or what they're NOT doing..... wink
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Reply #57 posted 07/15/09 9:49am

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LittleSister said:

...past behavior is in Prince's case a good indicator for future behavior.


Do you watch Dr. Phil a lot? I'm just wondering, because he always says that a person's past behavior is a good indicator for future behavior. That's one of his sayings. smile
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #58 posted 07/15/09 3:26pm

karryflower

done...
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Reply #59 posted 07/17/09 7:49pm

jethrouk

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got a reply form lotusflow3r, but not from my oriiginal email, it was regarding a subsquent email, about the the t-shirt email they sent me

see below:

Hi James,

Firstly, my apologies that I've taken a while getting back to you.

I've spoken to the T-Shirt distributors, and they have not yet gotten
back to me to confirm whether or not a shirt has ben mailed to you. It
may be that it is already on its way, but they are doing their best to
put a stop on the order.

However, given the circumstances, I can confirm that if you have been
sent a shirt, we will not be charging you the $7 shipping fee.

I hope this solution works for you!

Lotusflow3r.com support


On Jul 5, 2009, at 9:48 AM, James MacPherson wrote:

> Regarding the email I received about updating my credit card info
> for t-shirt delivery. Please under no circumstances charge me for
> shipping; I do not want a t-shirt. With regard to the complete sham
> that is Lotusflow4r I feel insulted to get this email.
>
> James
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