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Reply #180 posted 07/09/14 7:04am

KCOOLMUZIQ

SunflowerDiva said:

Wow...I came here to read post about the wonderful show I witnesses Friday night.....and uh.... sad Is it me or are a lot of you a bunch of Debbie Downers that would ruin a wet dream!!! Like are ya'll EVER satisfied? I wouldn't blame him one bit if he said the hell with all of you and stop touring period.

ANYWAY my question is this...I understand that Prince is notorious for not allowing cameras, filming of his events.....MANNNNN I saw so many Ipads and phones out recording the ENTIRE CONCERT it was hilarious! Then he asked everyone to turn on their phones and hold them up....IS THIS NORMAL for him???LOL!! I'm just curious..what made Essence different?

prince has already said the hell with them! He knows he can never please them anymore. So he just collects his million dollar checks and caters to his casual fans mostly now. He saves the rest for smaller gig shows. Anybody that's a long term old school fan should already know this.

prince has asked peeps b4 to take out their phones & hold em up. This isnt new. He did it in 2011 @ his 21 nights @ The forum in 2011. Just put them back up when the purple police come. biggrin

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #181 posted 07/09/14 8:38am

Astasheiks

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

SunflowerDiva said:

Wow...I came here to read post about the wonderful show I witnesses Friday night.....and uh.... sad Is it me or are a lot of you a bunch of Debbie Downers that would ruin a wet dream!!! Like are ya'll EVER satisfied? I wouldn't blame him one bit if he said the hell with all of you and stop touring period.

ANYWAY my question is this...I understand that Prince is notorious for not allowing cameras, filming of his events.....MANNNNN I saw so many Ipads and phones out recording the ENTIRE CONCERT it was hilarious! Then he asked everyone to turn on their phones and hold them up....IS THIS NORMAL for him???LOL!! I'm just curious..what made Essence different?

prince has already said the hell with them! He knows he can never please them anymore. So he just collects his million dollar checks and caters to his casual fans mostly now. He saves the rest for smaller gig shows. Anybody that's a long term old school fan should already know this.

prince has asked peeps b4 to take out their phones & hold em up. This isnt new. He did it in 2011 @ his 21 nights @ The forum in 2011. Just put them back up when the purple police come. biggrin

....."MANNNNN I saw so many Ipads and phones out recording the ENTIRE CONCERT it was hilarious!"....

KCOOLMUZIQ, That is not normal for him, he usually don't allow this! eek lol

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Reply #182 posted 07/09/14 9:28am

KCOOLMUZIQ

Astasheiks said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

prince has already said the hell with them! He knows he can never please them anymore. So he just collects his million dollar checks and caters to his casual fans mostly now. He saves the rest for smaller gig shows. Anybody that's a long term old school fan should already know this.

prince has asked peeps b4 to take out their phones & hold em up. This isnt new. He did it in 2011 @ his 21 nights @ The forum in 2011. Just put them back up when the purple police come. biggrin

....."MANNNNN I saw so many Ipads and phones out recording the ENTIRE CONCERT it was hilarious!"....

KCOOLMUZIQ, That is not normal for him, he usually don't allow this! eek lol

Astasheiks, Common sense should tell U, that demanding a 50,000 plus 90% ethnic, culture, audience not to bring your cell phone to the ESSENCE FESTIVAL! Is a kiss of death!! It would have caused a RIOT.. biggrin

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eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #183 posted 07/09/14 11:25am

Rhastus

Astasheiks said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

prince has already said the hell with them! He knows he can never please them anymore. So he just collects his million dollar checks and caters to his casual fans mostly now. He saves the rest for smaller gig shows. Anybody that's a long term old school fan should already know this.

prince has asked peeps b4 to take out their phones & hold em up. This isnt new. He did it in 2011 @ his 21 nights @ The forum in 2011. Just put them back up when the purple police come. biggrin

....."MANNNNN I saw so many Ipads and phones out recording the ENTIRE CONCERT it was hilarious!"....

KCOOLMUZIQ, That is not normal for him, he usually don't allow this! eek lol

They had a big thing on the screen before Prince's set saying no audio or video recording. Of course they didn't inforce it and everybody was recording it.

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Reply #184 posted 07/09/14 7:13pm

KatSkrizzle

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

SunflowerDiva said:

Wow...I came here to read post about the wonderful show I witnesses Friday night.....and uh.... sad Is it me or are a lot of you a bunch of Debbie Downers that would ruin a wet dream!!! Like are ya'll EVER satisfied? I wouldn't blame him one bit if he said the hell with all of you and stop touring period.

ANYWAY my question is this...I understand that Prince is notorious for not allowing cameras, filming of his events.....MANNNNN I saw so many Ipads and phones out recording the ENTIRE CONCERT it was hilarious! Then he asked everyone to turn on their phones and hold them up....IS THIS NORMAL for him???LOL!! I'm just curious..what made Essence different?

prince has already said the hell with them! He knows he can never please them anymore. So he just collects his million dollar checks and caters to his casual fans mostly now. He saves the rest for smaller gig shows. Anybody that's a long term old school fan should already know this.

prince has asked peeps b4 to take out their phones & hold em up. This isnt new. He did it in 2011 @ his 21 nights @ The forum in 2011. Just put them back up when the purple police come. biggrin

Never learned this until going to Essencefest. It's always been NC shows, and they are truly always amazing. duly noted!

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Reply #185 posted 07/09/14 10:15pm

donnyenglish

- this type of show is not the highest and best use of 3rdeyegirl.

- prince made the same mistake lionel richie made by playing lots of pop hits rather than the r&b hits. Let's work, dmsr, if i was your girlfriend, etc would have kept the crowd into it. Starting the show with lets go crazy, take me with you and rasberry beret was a mistake because black folks are not as into those songs. Literally 50% of the crowd left when Lionel did running with the night. Lionel ended up playing to a virtually empty stadium. Lots of people left when Prince did Act of God, which had no funk.

- it was a mistake not to show his talents on the keys and guitar.

- charlie wilson was the best performer of the weekend by far. He was better than prince.

- it was refreshing to see badu keep her identity. She did her and was not worried about pleasing the crowd. I wish prince had done the same.

- prince needs to stop playing songs by the time. He cannot pull it off. His band aint funky like the time and he aint cool like morris.

- the aftershow was a disappointment. Warfield was great. But it quickly turned into amateur night with a bunch of annoying singers that did not know how to stop.
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Reply #186 posted 07/09/14 11:56pm

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Charlie Wilson was better than Prince, come on now, was that really true or just your opinion? lol

Did Prince sing all the verses and do the solo when he did Purple Rain?

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Reply #187 posted 07/10/14 5:46am

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donnyenglish said:

- this type of show is not the highest and best use of 3rdeyegirl. - prince made the same mistake lionel richie made by playing lots of pop hits rather than the r&b hits. Let's work, dmsr, if i was your girlfriend, etc would have kept the crowd into it. Starting the show with lets go crazy, take me with you and rasberry beret was a mistake because black folks are not as into those songs. Literally 50% of the crowd left when Lionel did running with the night. Lionel ended up playing to a virtually empty stadium. Lots of people left when Prince did Act of God, which had no funk. - it was a mistake not to show his talents on the keys and guitar. - charlie wilson was the best performer of the weekend by far. He was better than prince. - it was refreshing to see badu keep her identity. She did her and was not worried about pleasing the crowd. I wish prince had done the same. - prince needs to stop playing songs by the time. He cannot pull it off. His band aint funky like the time and he aint cool like morris. - the aftershow was a disappointment. Warfield was great. But it quickly turned into amateur night with a bunch of annoying singers that did not know how to stop. [Edited 7/9/14 22:17pm]

charlie wilson was the best performer of the weekend by far. eek

Charile is a great performer but I have watched a lot of his live performances on T.V and on the internet.

Unless he underwent an amazing transformation over the weekend he is not at P's level.

If you want to compare P to a Springsteen then your good because at this point only Prince and Springsteen bring it live.

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Reply #188 posted 07/10/14 6:03am

donnyenglish

Put is this way. Out of all the performers over the weekend, the audience liked Charlie Wilson the best and Prince next. I have to admit that Charlie's performance had me more interested than Prince. My wife felt the same way and she is not a Charlie Wilson fan. The crowd was into Prince but not as energetic as they were for Charlie. 40,000 people cannot be wrong.

Prince is way better of a live performer than Charlie. Prince is the greatest of all time. Just not that weekend. Of the more recent performances, I am a big fan of what he did in Montreaux in 2009, I loved the One Nite Alone Tour, Musicology and the 2013 west coast 3rdeyegirl tour. This current configuration does not do him justice. Do not get me wrong, the show was very good but just not great.
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Reply #189 posted 07/10/14 6:07am

stillwaiting

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Sounds like people enjoyed the show, but it's quite a dissapointing setlist. A trend seems to be appearing: the American shows seem to be NPG based and UK shows 3rdEyeGirl, which suits me, (I'd take 3rdEyeGirl every time), but I wonder why that is. Prince probably decided to play it safe with such a huge crowd, but I think his current rock shows/performances are much stronger. It would have been better had he sprinkled songs like Endorphinmachine, Bambi, I Like It There, Dreamer, Something in the Water, (maybe something some rarer, say Interactive or Da Bang or current tour favourite What's My Name), or maybe a few Plectrumelectrum songs. All in my own opinion of course. However, hearing this makes me glad he didn't do Glastonbury, I'd hate for him to finally play and chicken out on a hits setlist.

On the 3rd Eye Girl shows, he seems to sing many more songs in full. For hits shows, he holds the mic out to the crowd like a Diva refusing to be "willing to do the work." He also shortened the lyrics to many songs. Maybe 8 total songs were sung in full. Essence was a good show, but could have been a great show with more singing, and a few more songs that fit the audience. I was the only one within 20 feet of me standing up during Act of God, everybody else had no clue what song it was.

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Reply #190 posted 07/10/14 8:05am

stillwaiting

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Wait a minute, hasn't Prince done "obscure song tours" before and people on the Org still complained? Rewind to 2002 ONA tours for my point smile

If he sang 22 full length songs, there would not be too many complaints from me. Rock show/ Funk Show, Pop show, whatever. Yes, I did expect more R&B/funk....it WAS the ESSENCE Festival...It wasn't Glatsonbury, it wasn't Woodstock 94 , it wasn't Coachella. The crowd was probably closer to 40,000 than the 50,000 some are reporting. Maybe even 35,000, as I was on the lower level, and saw one row with 20 empty seats.

But since he was not really singing full length songs, it was like he was not "Willing To Do The Work." This was a huge show, a huge opportunity to add to his legend, and he was a little flat. Some of it was awesome. I may be a little sick of "Take Me With U," but it was awesome! Purple Rain, Nothing Compares 2 U, Let's Go Crazy, were all great...1999 was awesome.

Controversy was HORRIBLE...just him playing crowd flunky.

Had he done 15 full length hits, it would've been fine with me, but he only sung all the lyrics to maybe 8 songs. For such an expensive ticket, to a show that was a few minutes short of two hours, that is not going to get a great review from me. I think it was a good show, but I'm not gonna lie and call it perfect like Kook Moe Musico would, and I'm not gonna call it HORRIBLE, like Bart Van Halen would...

I'm gonna have my own opinion, which is my own clear thought...I could never have an automatic PERFECT or AWFUL review. It had some great moments, it's not like Tony M was rapping about Manure all night. Quick...find another rapper who rapped about Manure like Tony did....you can't.

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Reply #191 posted 07/10/14 8:15am

stillwaiting

SunflowerDiva said:

laurarichardson said:

What is your point? I am sorry you did not enjoy the show but apparently thousands of other people did based on the reviews which all over the net and radio. No one is going to pay large sums of money at a large venue to hear obsurce songs. P knew the audience and he played to that audience. When he goes over seas he does his Rock n Roll show and plays obsurce stuff because those audiences will dig it.

I have said it a million times some people need to step off the purple boat. Check out some other artist for a few years and come back when you realize what you are missing. Or stay gone if Nikki Minaj and Lil Wayne are your thing.

^^^^THIS REPONSE IS EVERYTHING^^^^^

I never said it was an awful show, I never said it was a bad show, I said it was just a good show, but it could have been legendary. Some of ya'll read one or two critical comments, and can't deal with the fact that everything can't be PERFECT. Some of ya'll operate under the influence that everything in life has to either be 100% or 0%. There is the IN BETWEEN....it's called opinion...some of ya'll have no clue. I'd give the show about a 75 to an 80. But Prince's show at Birmingham on 5/15/14 was more like a 85-90, a better show. He's capable...he was lazy friday night.

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Reply #192 posted 07/10/14 8:24am

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stillwaiting said:

SunflowerDiva said:

^^^^THIS REPONSE IS EVERYTHING^^^^^

I never said it was an awful show, I never said it was a bad show, I said it was just a good show, but it could have been legendary. Some of ya'll read one or two critical comments, and can't deal with the fact that everything can't be PERFECT. Some of ya'll operate under the influence that everything in life has to either be 100% or 0%. There is the IN BETWEEN....it's called opinion...some of ya'll have no clue. I'd give the show about a 75 to an 80. But Prince's show at Birmingham on 5/15/14 was more like a 85-90, a better show. He's capable...he was lazy friday night.

Well 80% is a B and his B shows are better than most artist A shows.

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Reply #193 posted 07/10/14 8:32am

stillwaiting

hw3004 said:

SunflowerDiva said:

Wow...I came here to read post about the wonderful show I witnesses Friday night.....and uh.... sad Is it me or are a lot of you a bunch of Debbie Downers that would ruin a wet dream!!! Like are ya'll EVER satisfied? I wouldn't blame him one bit if he said the hell with all of you and stop touring period.

ANYWAY my question is this...I understand that Prince is notorious for not allowing cameras, filming of his events.....MANNNNN I saw so many Ipads and phones out recording the ENTIRE CONCERT it was hilarious! Then he asked everyone to turn on their phones and hold them up....IS THIS NORMAL for him???LOL!! I'm just curious..what made Essence different?

I think there's some people on here who, if they found a £50 note on the street, would complain about the litter!

And there are some people who would not complain if their food was burned black and overcharged $100 on their bill. Some people just think everything is rosy and perfect. I can't be that.

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Reply #194 posted 07/10/14 8:51am

stillwaiting

laurarichardson said:

stillwaiting said:

I never said it was an awful show, I never said it was a bad show, I said it was just a good show, but it could have been legendary. Some of ya'll read one or two critical comments, and can't deal with the fact that everything can't be PERFECT. Some of ya'll operate under the influence that everything in life has to either be 100% or 0%. There is the IN BETWEEN....it's called opinion...some of ya'll have no clue. I'd give the show about a 75 to an 80. But Prince's show at Birmingham on 5/15/14 was more like a 85-90, a better show. He's capable...he was lazy friday night.

Well 80% is a B and his B shows are better than most artist A shows.

Yes it was better than most other artist's shows...but he was lazy with the singing, which was annoying...but hey...NOT ONCE did Shelby shout "Put Your Hands Up." This had to be a record. I have never been to a show where Shelby wasn't screaming this at the top of her lungs at least 30 times or more!

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Reply #195 posted 07/10/14 2:09pm

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donnyenglish and stillwaiting, thanks for the continuing rational discussion of this show.

"..free to change your mind"
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Reply #196 posted 07/10/14 3:01pm

freakdogg

Well now that i've had a few days to think about the show and recover from my New Orleans um shall we say "experience" i'd like to give my review of the Essence Festival show and the Essence Festival in general. Let me start by saying that Prince is the best live performer that has ever lived and I usually love his shows. I can only think of one that was kind of boring Denver Hit & Run around 2001 at Magness Arena. Too much Larry Graham and Maceo Parker. Seeing Prince live always gives me a great feeling. He truly gives all he's got and his music flows effortlessly through him. The venue for Essence is not good. It is too big and echoey. The sound was terrible for every artist I saw perform on the main stage. Prince kept making requests to the sound and lighting man but to no avail. Mics were too low. Stage sound was too high. Donna's guitar was too low. The setlist was obviously created to engage the casual fan with familiar songs. Prince was working hard to engage the crowd but had a lot of trouble doing this throughout the show as did just about every artist that performed on the main stage. The crowd was 90% black and I do not consider Prince a "black/urban artist" although he does have plenty of "black/urban songs that he didn't play. Charlie Wilson on the other hand killed it on Sunday night. But his music is "black/urban music" that the crowd easily related to. He was the only artist that I thought truly connected with the Essnce crowd. Prince had his moments but the crowd was the laziest I have ever seen at a Prince concert which threw me off a bit and maybe even shook Prince a bit. I'm sure he was recalling his lyrics from FIXURELIFEUP-"Don't worry about the crowd..." The show overall was pretty good but not outstanding. I expected more with Janelle Monae and Niles. 2 minute appearances during their sets was not nearly enough. Why no guitar playing? That is what sets him apart from other artists no matter their color. My take aways: The Super Dome is a terrible concert venue. Liv Warfield and her band were excellent. Her drummer looks like an up and coming badass. Prince should not play black music festivals if he's not going to play Adore, I wanna Be Your Lover, If I was your Girlfriend & The Beautiful Ones. Shoot I would have even appreciated Play That Funky Music which he has been playing. Prince's band is in a bit of a transition period. 3rd Eye Girl is a good rock band and I loved the intimate show I saw in Denver but they do not bring the funk like the recent NPG bands of 2004 & 2011. This show really exposed this, especially since Prince did not have a guitar in his hand hardly at all which was a downer for me as well. 30 horns players, 1 guitar, 1 bass, 1 drummer and 1 keyboard didn't provide enough funk for this type of show. Prince seems to be about developing young musicians these days and less about surrounding himself with really good established musicians which shows up in larger venues. Let me know when the next show is. biggrin

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Reply #197 posted 07/10/14 3:06pm

freakdogg

stillwaiting said:

thx185 said:

I was there and this is exactly how it came across to me. The problem wasn't with him playing all hits, it was that they were done in a very overblown medley. You would get 1 verse, 1 chorus, then on to the next song in the "megamix". Many of the hits were done in "reloaded" versions, with no exciting new elements, and no energy of the original versions.

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Again, hits were not the problem. Nile Rogers and Chic played their solid set of all hits (including covers of a few that Nile produced and co-wrote, including Get Lucky), and it was one of the best concerts I've ever seen. Nile had such a natural winning personality and rapport with the audience. He presented himself as a human being, grateful to be there, and he presented his music with class, style, and FUNK.

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Any true funk fan was in heaven during Chic. As for how the true funk fan would feel about Prince.. I can only speak for myself, but I left about 3 songs before the end judging by the setlists posted.

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Now keep in mind, my seat was on the floor.. I paid some dollars for that ticket.. Suffice it to say I had gotten my moneys worth with the absolutely stellar Chic set, and so had no problems exiting early from the overblown and bland Prince performance.

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Something I haven't seen mentioned yet, there was a steady stream of people leaving from the floor during the last third of Prince's set.. I watched them leave, he watched them leave, and I joined them as "The Bird" was starting.

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I'm glad I saw him, it was Prince I was there to see, he is a legend and a treasure, but he is at a phase in his career where he's phoning it in.

[Edited 7/6/14 21:25pm]

I haven't written my review yet, but Controversy was awful, just him singing a little bit, and doing one of his trademark screams a bunch. For many songs, and of course, Kiss, he just held the mic for the crowd to sing. Some fool paid $2,500 for floor seats to hear the audience sing a bunch...it was a good show, but considering he had over 40,000...not buying that it was 50,000 there....it should have been a legendary show. The bootleg of 5/15 Birmingham was a better show.

And considering the crowd at the Essence festival...complete versions of The Beautiful Ones, Do Me Baby, I Wanna Be Your Lover, perhaps Uptown and/or Delirious, and Adore would have been much appreciated.

It was a very good almost great show, but Prince was in FULL DIVA mode, and not in MUSICIAN mode. Since he has the talent to put on an amazing show, just seeing a very good one was kind of a letdown, but this is Prince. At least nobody was shouting "Put Your Hands Up," And at least Doug E Fresh's HORRIBLE shouting in the mic was left to his own "show."

Yes this-And considering the crowd at the Essence festival...complete versions of The Beautiful Ones, Do Me Baby, I Wanna Be Your Lover, perhaps Uptown and/or Delirious, and Adore would have been much appreciated.

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Reply #198 posted 07/10/14 6:01pm

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freakdogg said:

Well now that i've had a few days to think about the show and recover from my New Orleans um shall we say "experience" i'd like to give my review of the Essence Festival show and the Essence Festival in general. Let me start by saying that Prince is the best live performer that has ever lived and I usually love his shows. I can only think of one that was kind of boring Denver Hit & Run around 2001 at Magness Arena. Too much Larry Graham and Maceo Parker. Seeing Prince live always gives me a great feeling. He truly gives all he's got and his music flows effortlessly through him. The venue for Essence is not good. It is too big and echoey. The sound was terrible for every artist I saw perform on the main stage. Prince kept making requests to the sound and lighting man but to no avail. Mics were too low. Stage sound was too high. Donna's guitar was too low. The setlist was obviously created to engage the casual fan with familiar songs. Prince was working hard to engage the crowd but had a lot of trouble doing this throughout the show as did just about every artist that performed on the main stage. The crowd was 90% black and I do not consider Prince a "black/urban artist" although he does have plenty of "black/urban songs that he didn't play. Charlie Wilson on the other hand killed it on Sunday night. But his music is "black/urban music" that the crowd easily related to. He was the only artist that I thought truly connected with the Essnce crowd. Prince had his moments but the crowd was the laziest I have ever seen at a Prince concert which threw me off a bit and maybe even shook Prince a bit. I'm sure he was recalling his lyrics from FIXURELIFEUP-"Don't worry about the crowd..." The show overall was pretty good but not outstanding. I expected more with Janelle Monae and Niles. 2 minute appearances during their sets was not nearly enough. Why no guitar playing? That is what sets him apart from other artists no matter their color. My take aways: The Super Dome is a terrible concert venue. Liv Warfield and her band were excellent. Her drummer looks like an up and coming badass. Prince should not play black music festivals if he's not going to play Adore, I wanna Be Your Lover, If I was your Girlfriend & The Beautiful Ones. Shoot I would have even appreciated Play That Funky Music which he has been playing. Prince's band is in a bit of a transition period. 3rd Eye Girl is a good rock band and I loved the intimate show I saw in Denver but they do not bring the funk like the recent NPG bands of 2004 & 2011. This show really exposed this, especially since Prince did not have a guitar in his hand hardly at all which was a downer for me as well. 30 horns players, 1 guitar, 1 bass, 1 drummer and 1 keyboard didn't provide enough funk for this type of show. Prince seems to be about developing young musicians these days and less about surrounding himself with really good established musicians which shows up in larger venues. Let me know when the next show is. biggrin


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Thx for this... Refreshing to read some balance and not extremes
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Dance... Let me see you dance
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Reply #199 posted 07/10/14 6:33pm

kidmelody2012

awesome report! see my prince inept band post in prince music and more section biggrin

freakdogg said:

Well now that i've had a few days to think about the show and recover from my New Orleans um shall we say "experience" i'd like to give my review of the Essence Festival show and the Essence Festival in general. Let me start by saying that Prince is the best live performer that has ever lived and I usually love his shows. I can only think of one that was kind of boring Denver Hit & Run around 2001 at Magness Arena. Too much Larry Graham and Maceo Parker. Seeing Prince live always gives me a great feeling. He truly gives all he's got and his music flows effortlessly through him. The venue for Essence is not good. It is too big and echoey. The sound was terrible for every artist I saw perform on the main stage. Prince kept making requests to the sound and lighting man but to no avail. Mics were too low. Stage sound was too high. Donna's guitar was too low. The setlist was obviously created to engage the casual fan with familiar songs. Prince was working hard to engage the crowd but had a lot of trouble doing this throughout the show as did just about every artist that performed on the main stage. The crowd was 90% black and I do not consider Prince a "black/urban artist" although he does have plenty of "black/urban songs that he didn't play. Charlie Wilson on the other hand killed it on Sunday night. But his music is "black/urban music" that the crowd easily related to. He was the only artist that I thought truly connected with the Essnce crowd. Prince had his moments but the crowd was the laziest I have ever seen at a Prince concert which threw me off a bit and maybe even shook Prince a bit. I'm sure he was recalling his lyrics from FIXURELIFEUP-"Don't worry about the crowd..." The show overall was pretty good but not outstanding. I expected more with Janelle Monae and Niles. 2 minute appearances during their sets was not nearly enough. Why no guitar playing? That is what sets him apart from other artists no matter their color. My take aways: The Super Dome is a terrible concert venue. Liv Warfield and her band were excellent. Her drummer looks like an up and coming badass. Prince should not play black music festivals if he's not going to play Adore, I wanna Be Your Lover, If I was your Girlfriend & The Beautiful Ones. Shoot I would have even appreciated Play That Funky Music which he has been playing. Prince's band is in a bit of a transition period. 3rd Eye Girl is a good rock band and I loved the intimate show I saw in Denver but they do not bring the funk like the recent NPG bands of 2004 & 2011. This show really exposed this, especially since Prince did not have a guitar in his hand hardly at all which was a downer for me as well. 30 horns players, 1 guitar, 1 bass, 1 drummer and 1 keyboard didn't provide enough funk for this type of show. Prince seems to be about developing young musicians these days and less about surrounding himself with really good established musicians which shows up in larger venues. Let me know when the next show is. biggrin

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Reply #200 posted 07/10/14 7:26pm

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laurarichardson said:

donnyenglish said:

- this type of show is not the highest and best use of 3rdeyegirl. - prince made the same mistake lionel richie made by playing lots of pop hits rather than the r&b hits. Let's work, dmsr, if i was your girlfriend, etc would have kept the crowd into it. Starting the show with lets go crazy, take me with you and rasberry beret was a mistake because black folks are not as into those songs. Literally 50% of the crowd left when Lionel did running with the night. Lionel ended up playing to a virtually empty stadium. Lots of people left when Prince did Act of God, which had no funk. - it was a mistake not to show his talents on the keys and guitar. - charlie wilson was the best performer of the weekend by far. He was better than prince. - it was refreshing to see badu keep her identity. She did her and was not worried about pleasing the crowd. I wish prince had done the same. - prince needs to stop playing songs by the time. He cannot pull it off. His band aint funky like the time and he aint cool like morris. - the aftershow was a disappointment. Warfield was great. But it quickly turned into amateur night with a bunch of annoying singers that did not know how to stop. [Edited 7/9/14 22:17pm]

charlie wilson was the best performer of the weekend by far. eek

Charile is a great performer but I have watched a lot of his live performances on T.V and on the internet.

Unless he underwent an amazing transformation over the weekend he is not at P's level.

If you want to compare P to a Springsteen then your good because at this point only Prince and Springsteen bring it live.

But.......

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Reply #201 posted 07/11/14 12:00am

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stillwaiting said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Wait a minute, hasn't Prince done "obscure song tours" before and people on the Org still complained? Rewind to 2002 ONA tours for my point smile

If he sang 22 full length songs, there would not be too many complaints from me. Rock show/ Funk Show, Pop show, whatever. Yes, I did expect more R&B/funk....it WAS the ESSENCE Festival...It wasn't Glatsonbury, it wasn't Woodstock 94 , it wasn't Coachella. The crowd was probably closer to 40,000 than the 50,000 some are reporting. Maybe even 35,000, as I was on the lower level, and saw one row with 20 empty seats.

But since he was not really singing full length songs, it was like he was not "Willing To Do The Work." This was a huge show, a huge opportunity to add to his legend, and he was a little flat. Some of it was awesome. I may be a little sick of "Take Me With U," but it was awesome! Purple Rain, Nothing Compares 2 U, Let's Go Crazy, were all great...1999 was awesome.

Controversy was HORRIBLE...just him playing crowd flunky.

Had he done 15 full length hits, it would've been fine with me, but he only sung all the lyrics to maybe 8 songs. For such an expensive ticket, to a show that was a few minutes short of two hours, that is not going to get a great review from me. I think it was a good show, but I'm not gonna lie and call it perfect like Kook Moe Musico would, and I'm not gonna call it HORRIBLE, like Bart Van Halen would...

I'm gonna have my own opinion, which is my own clear thought...I could never have an automatic PERFECT or AWFUL review. It had some great moments, it's not like Tony M was rapping about Manure all night. Quick...find another rapper who rapped about Manure like Tony did....you can't.

lol razz lol Thanks for the laugh, thats the hardest I've laughed in a long time. What? ..... It wasn't a MASTERPIECE!!!! lol

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Reply #202 posted 07/11/14 8:45am

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lol razz lol Thanks for the laugh, thats the hardest I've laughed in a long time. What? ..... It wasn't a MASTERPIECE!!!! lol

Thanks. I was probably trying to be funny, which isn't always funny smile

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Reply #203 posted 07/12/14 3:25pm

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It seems that crtiques of Prince's set set list ignore that he was continuing his celebration of the 30th Anniversary of Purple rain, and that's why he sang the songs he sang.

I was there. I would have loved to hear "Adore," but I understood that it did not fit with the show he was putting on. So, he was great for his intent, and he seemed overwhelmed at times by the love the crowd showed for him. As for Uncle Charlie, he was also excellent, but comparing Prince to Charlie is comparing apples to oranges: diffent styles, different kind of music. Charlie's show was much more Vegas-y, and I'd glady see him again because he throws his heart on the stage. Prince's show was, well, Prince-y, because there can be only one. If I could, I would gladly buy a plane ticket, book a hotel room, and get front-row seats to his next concert. biggrin Finally, yes, the sound in the Superdome could be better, but that doesn't change the truth that we had a funky-good time.

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Reply #204 posted 07/13/14 8:32am

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Nothing wrong with celebrating those Purple Rain songs but 19 out 22 songs from the 80's is too much! He's got plenty of jamming songs from the 90's, 00's, 10's that could have replaced a few of those 80's songs!!! razz lol

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Reply #205 posted 07/13/14 6:11pm

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I loved his set at ESSENCE!!! wink

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Reply #206 posted 07/13/14 6:14pm

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KatSkrizzle said:



laurarichardson said:




donnyenglish said:


- this type of show is not the highest and best use of 3rdeyegirl. - prince made the same mistake lionel richie made by playing lots of pop hits rather than the r&b hits. Let's work, dmsr, if i was your girlfriend, etc would have kept the crowd into it. Starting the show with lets go crazy, take me with you and rasberry beret was a mistake because black folks are not as into those songs. Literally 50% of the crowd left when Lionel did running with the night. Lionel ended up playing to a virtually empty stadium. Lots of people left when Prince did Act of God, which had no funk. - it was a mistake not to show his talents on the keys and guitar. - charlie wilson was the best performer of the weekend by far. He was better than prince. - it was refreshing to see badu keep her identity. She did her and was not worried about pleasing the crowd. I wish prince had done the same. - prince needs to stop playing songs by the time. He cannot pull it off. His band aint funky like the time and he aint cool like morris. - the aftershow was a disappointment. Warfield was great. But it quickly turned into amateur night with a bunch of annoying singers that did not know how to stop. [Edited 7/9/14 22:17pm]

charlie wilson was the best performer of the weekend by far. eek



Charile is a great performer but I have watched a lot of his live performances on T.V and on the internet.


Unless he underwent an amazing transformation over the weekend he is not at P's level.



If you want to compare P to a Springsteen then your good because at this point only Prince and Springsteen bring it live.




But.....




I did not need to be there to know that Charlie is no Prince
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Reply #207 posted 07/13/14 6:17pm

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donnyenglish said:

Put is this way. Out of all the performers over the weekend, the audience liked Charlie Wilson the best and Prince next. I have to admit that Charlie's performance had me more interested than Prince. My wife felt the same way and she is not a Charlie Wilson fan. The crowd was into Prince but not as energetic as they were for Charlie. 40,000 people cannot be wrong.

Prince is way better of a live performer than Charlie. Prince is the greatest of all time. Just not that weekend. Of the more recent performances, I am a big fan of what he did in Montreaux in 2009, I loved the One Nite Alone Tour, Musicology and the 2013 west coast 3rdeyegirl tour. This current configuration does not do him justice. Do not get me wrong, the show was very good but just not great.
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Well how did you talk to all of those people.
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Reply #208 posted 07/13/14 6:43pm

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laurarichardson said:

donnyenglish said:
Put is this way. Out of all the performers over the weekend, the audience liked Charlie Wilson the best and Prince next. I have to admit that Charlie's performance had me more interested than Prince. My wife felt the same way and she is not a Charlie Wilson fan. The crowd was into Prince but not as energetic as they were for Charlie. 40,000 people cannot be wrong. Prince is way better of a live performer than Charlie. Prince is the greatest of all time. Just not that weekend. Of the more recent performances, I am a big fan of what he did in Montreaux in 2009, I loved the One Nite Alone Tour, Musicology and the 2013 west coast 3rdeyegirl tour. This current configuration does not do him justice. Do not get me wrong, the show was very good but just not great. [Edited 7/10/14 6:04am]
Well how did you talk to all of those people.

You had a previous argument in which you leaned on media and blog posts for your assertions...

"This sound like ORG B.S. I have checked out a lot of urban blogs and urban stations and the reviews are steller [sic]."

Although donny was there, and is sharing their feelings on the show, you are asking for personal resources; while you have none for your argument for this particular show.

At the end of the day, Prince doesn't pay my bills or yours, it was a show, and I still had a great time. I don't regret going.

For me,

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Reply #209 posted 07/14/14 12:07pm

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Did he play Purple Rain in its entirety, doing all the verses and the solo? cool

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