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Thread started 07/25/03 8:13am

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Should George W. Bush be Impeached?

Californians are going to vote rather to recall the govna. Bush has committed a serious crime, he is being accused of misleading America and our troop into a war based on lies. Is this sufficent grounds for impeachment? They wanted to out Clinton for getting his groove on with Monica, a far lesser crime to say the least. So, what to you say?

"boot to the head"!

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Reply #1 posted 07/25/03 8:20am

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i would need to see more proof before i would say yes to it, but i think it is something that should be looked into.

a lot of it is i worry that people might be taking the low road by going after bush out of revenge for the right taking the low road and going after clinton. if what is being said about bush is true, then that is good reason for impeachment. but it can not be about giving the right a taste of their own medicine for what they did to clinton.

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Reply #2 posted 07/25/03 8:25am

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penelopeperriwinkle said:

Californians are going to vote rather to recall the govna. Bush has committed a serious crime, he is being accused of misleading America and our troop into a war based on lies. Is this sufficent grounds for impeachment? They wanted to out Clinton for getting his groove on with Monica, a far lesser crime to say the least. So, what to you say?

"boot to the head"!


nope. he didnt lie. those "16 words" are virtually irrelevant and the Brits still stand by their intelligence. Also, if he is impeached, a large portion of congress that voted for the war would have to be let go also. it wasnt just bush remember, congress also voted for it! including most of the democratic presidential runners!

even democratic posterboy Bill Clinton said this the other night on Larry King...
"What happened, often happens. There was a disagreement between British intelligence and American intelligence. The president said it was British intelligence that said it ... British intelligence still maintains that they think the nuclear story was true. I don't know what was true, what was false. I thought the White House did the right thing in just saying, `Well, we probably shouldn't have said that.'"


thats about it huh? Brits stand by it, we just shouldnt have put it in the speach. end of story. no news here.

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Reply #3 posted 07/25/03 8:27am

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There will always be people who say that the President is not doing a good job whether its this reason or that. Our presidents are human and should never be held to be perfect. There are reasons other than WMD and its not hard to see that the job is being done.Of course there is a price to pay in war. This war is only over in one respect and that is that Saddam ussein is OUT of power. The Iraqi people for the most part are headed for a prosperous future. It can only get better with the economy that will result from the ongoing sale of their precious resource,crude oil. Wouldn't it be interesting to travel to Iraq in 20 or 30 years to see the history of Babylon? Just some food 4 U...MinnneapolisFunk

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Reply #4 posted 07/25/03 8:31am

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He should be impaled never mind impeached.

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Reply #5 posted 07/25/03 8:35am

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chemmie said:

penelopeperriwinkle said:

Californians are going to vote rather to recall the govna. Bush has committed a serious crime, he is being accused of misleading America and our troop into a war based on lies. Is this sufficent grounds for impeachment? They wanted to out Clinton for getting his groove on with Monica, a far lesser crime to say the least. So, what to you say?

"boot to the head"!


nope. he didnt lie. those "16 words" are virtually irrelevant and the Brits still stand by their intelligence. Also, if he is impeached, a large portion of congress that voted for the war would have to be let go also. it wasnt just bush remember, congress also voted for it! including most of the democratic presidential runners!

even democratic posterboy Bill Clinton said this the other night on Larry King...
"What happened, often happens. There was a disagreement between British intelligence and American intelligence. The president said it was British intelligence that said it ... British intelligence still maintains that they think the nuclear story was true. I don't know what was true, what was false. I thought the White House did the right thing in just saying, `Well, we probably shouldn't have said that.'"


thats about it huh? Brits stand by it, we just shouldnt have put it in the speach. end of story. no news here.


congress can not be held accountable, as congress voted based on the (mis)information they were handed. they were duped just like the rest of us. congress is not accountable for the actions of the white house

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Reply #6 posted 07/25/03 8:46am

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chemmie said:

penelopeperriwinkle said:

Californians are going to vote rather to recall the govna. Bush has committed a serious crime, he is being accused of misleading America and our troop into a war based on lies. Is this sufficent grounds for impeachment? They wanted to out Clinton for getting his groove on with Monica, a far lesser crime to say the least. So, what to you say?

"boot to the head"!


nope. he didnt lie. those "16 words" are virtually irrelevant and the Brits still stand by their intelligence. Also, if he is impeached, a large portion of congress that voted for the war would have to be let go also. it wasnt just bush remember, congress also voted for it! including most of the democratic presidential runners!

even democratic posterboy Bill Clinton said this the other night on Larry King...
"What happened, often happens. There was a disagreement between British intelligence and American intelligence. The president said it was British intelligence that said it ... British intelligence still maintains that they think the nuclear story was true. I don't know what was true, what was false. I thought the White House did the right thing in just saying, `Well, we probably shouldn't have said that.'"


thats about it huh? Brits stand by it, we just shouldnt have put it in the speach. end of story. no news here.

They (congress) voted based on the "mis"information and propaganda fed to them by Bush and his henchmen. They are not and should not be held accountable. War was ALWAYS on Bush's agenda!! During his entire presidential campaign he VOWED (and I quote) "to get behind the military!" and criticized the Clinton administation for using the armed forces for peace-keeping missions, saying that the military is for "defense, not peace-keeping". I'm personally, well, heart-broken that there are SO MANY naive people in the US...they believe ANYTHING on tv, they believe that the government actually CARES about THEM, failing to realize that there is ALWAYS an ULTERIOR and (politically and economically) selfish agenda that exists! Bush stole his presidency, and has gone out of his way to manipulate THE WORLD into following his "cowboy" politics! He should not only be impeached, but the members of his crooked ass cabinet should also get the hell out of dodge. After, Bush should be forced to be roommates with SquirrelMeat over in whatever the hell part of Europe! geek

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Reply #7 posted 07/25/03 8:53am

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cborgman said:

congress can not be held accountable, as congress voted based on the (mis)information they were handed. they were duped just like the rest of us. congress is not accountable for the actions of the white house



are you implying that congress doesnt have the right to the exact same intelligence information as the President? Im not too sure but I would tend to think that they get the same info from the same sources (FBI and CIA). Besides, those illustrious "16 words" werent until well after Congress voted.

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Reply #8 posted 07/25/03 8:55am

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penelopeperriwinkle said:

They wanted to out Clinton for getting his groove on with Monica, a far lesser crime to say the least. So, what to you say?

"boot to the head"!

You think they were going after Clinton for having sex? Remember he LIED under oath which is a crime.

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Reply #9 posted 07/25/03 11:49am

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Forget impeachment. Some motherfuckers don't even want to look into whether he lied or not. All the same people that were screaming that Clinton raped a child, feed him the the hounds are now shouting out that it is Un-American (Un-American being the buzz of 2003!) to even look and see whether a Republican president would lie. Never happen! The man who Florida fair and square? He would never lie! It'll never happen, not with a Republican Congress and Republican leaning Sumpreme Court. They got the power and have manipulated the system so that they keep it.

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Reply #10 posted 07/25/03 12:31pm

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Bush was selected president. He will have his evaluation next year at the polls. He exaggerated the immediacy of the threat and the intelligence failed to investigate the authenticity of the evidence. There is a question as to whether he knew the evidence was faulty and used it anyway to bolster his quest for war. That is a legit question, but not an impeachable one.

The larger issue is the credibility of the President of the United States. That can be decided at the polls next year. The last thing we need is some politically charged witch hunt in the midst of 2 wars, a nuclear crisis in N. Korea, a humanitarian crisis in Africa, and a horrible economy at home. Let the voters deal with this in 15.5 months.

We shouldn't lose our larger perspective to score political points. Republicans do enough of that for all of us.

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Reply #11 posted 07/25/03 12:36pm

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Bush has not done anything that warrants impeachment.

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Reply #12 posted 07/25/03 3:53pm

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bush has lied to the american people on more than one occasion, has broken more international treaties than any other president in the history of american presidents, has and continues to jeopardize america's standing in the international community, he has waged a war against reason and the will of the united nations, and he is escalating conflicts and the nuclear arms race with other nations in the name of his ridiculous 'war on terrorism', is bankrupting america to the tune of four billion dollars a day spent on a war with iraq that's impossible to win, not to mention he's a liar, a cheat, a drunk, is practically illiterate, is uneducated, and has appointed corrupt enron executives to positions of power in the government when they should be behind bars instead of working on ways to rape the wilderness in search of more oil. . . .hmmm. tough call.

yeah, i think he should be impeached. failing that i'm going to start sending him a bag of pretzels each day with instructions to see how many he can get in his mouth at once...

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Reply #13 posted 07/25/03 4:28pm

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He should be impaled never mind impeached.




lol falloff lol falloff

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Reply #14 posted 07/25/03 4:46pm

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No need for impeachment. I predict that he'll be gone in a year.

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Reply #15 posted 07/25/03 5:51pm

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TheMax said:

No need for impeachment. I predict that he'll be gone in a year.



just curious... how? assassination? or he will be gone in a year and a half if he is not re-elected?

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Reply #16 posted 07/25/03 7:03pm

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chemmie said:

TheMax said:

No need for impeachment. I predict that he'll be gone in a year.



just curious... how? assassination? or he will be gone in a year and a half if he is not re-elected?

My prediction applies to the 2004 election. If things continue to go poorly in Iraq and the conflict drags on with daily reports of new casualties, or the North Koreans force our military to intervene and we face a nuclear showdown, or the economy stalls further, or we're the victims of another major terrorist attack, then I think his chances for re-election will plummet.

I dare Bush to ask (in 2004) the famous question, "Are you better off now than you were four years ago?" I can readily say that for most of us the answer in 2003 is a resounding "No!"

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Reply #17 posted 07/25/03 7:29pm

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TheMax said:

chemmie said:

TheMax said:

No need for impeachment. I predict that he'll be gone in a year.



just curious... how? assassination? or he will be gone in a year and a half if he is not re-elected?

My prediction applies to the 2004 election. If things continue to go poorly in Iraq and the conflict drags on with daily reports of new casualties, or the North Koreans force our military to intervene and we face a nuclear showdown, or the economy stalls further, or we're the victims of another major terrorist attack, then I think his chances for re-election will plummet.

I dare Bush to ask (in 2004) the famous question, "Are you better off now than you were four years ago?" I can readily say that for most of us the answer in 2003 is a resounding "No!"


yea, but i feel the real question is "would you be better off after 9/11 if a democrat was in office?" i dont know if i could answer yes or no to that one. ill be voting Libertarian anyway so that is one less vote for Bush this year.

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Reply #18 posted 07/26/03 6:43am

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Forget impeachment. Some motherfuckers don't even want to look into whether he lied or not. All the same people that were screaming that Clinton raped a child, feed him the the hounds are now shouting out that it is Un-American (Un-American being the buzz of 2003!) to even look and see whether a Republican president would lie. Never happen! The man who Florida fair and square? He would never lie! It'll never happen, not with a Republican Congress and Republican leaning Sumpreme Court. They got the power and have manipulated the system so that they keep it.



Lovely sarcasm!

You know, Bush has raped the world and no one seems to want to do anything about it. Stand up, organize!


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Reply #19 posted 07/26/03 5:16pm

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SexyPeach said:

VinnyM27 said:

Forget impeachment. Some motherfuckers don't even want to look into whether he lied or not. All the same people that were screaming that Clinton raped a child, feed him the the hounds are now shouting out that it is Un-American (Un-American being the buzz of 2003!) to even look and see whether a Republican president would lie. Never happen! The man who Florida fair and square? He would never lie! It'll never happen, not with a Republican Congress and Republican leaning Sumpreme Court. They got the power and have manipulated the system so that they keep it.



Lovely sarcasm!

You know, Bush has raped the world and no one seems to want to do anything about it. Stand up, organize!


Sarah


My typos weren't meant to be funny though, just sad. smile I really need to read my posts over before I hit send.

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Reply #20 posted 07/26/03 5:18pm

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XxAxX said:

bush has lied to the american people on more than one occasion, has broken more international treaties than any other president in the history of american presidents, has and continues to jeopardize america's standing in the international community, he has waged a war against reason and the will of the united nations, and he is escalating conflicts and the nuclear arms race with other nations in the name of his ridiculous 'war on terrorism', is bankrupting america to the tune of four billion dollars a day spent on a war with iraq that's impossible to win, not to mention he's a liar, a cheat, a drunk, is practically illiterate, is uneducated, and has appointed corrupt enron executives to positions of power in the government when they should be behind bars instead of working on ways to rape the wilderness in search of more oil. . . .hmmm. tough call.

yeah, i think he should be impeached. failing that i'm going to start sending him a bag of pretzels each day with instructions to see how many he can get in his mouth at once...



My God, I thought I was liberal. Oh, I still am! I just had to check myself. Good points. You know what you have to do in 2004, don't you? Love the pretzel comment! lol

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Reply #21 posted 07/26/03 6:39pm

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penelopeperriwinkle said:

Californians are going to vote rather to recall the govna. Bush has committed a serious crime, he is being accused of misleading America and our troop into a war based on lies. Is this sufficent grounds for impeachment? They wanted to out Clinton for getting his groove on with Monica, a far lesser crime to say the least. So, what to you say?

"boot to the head"!

not just impeachment, all his other crimes count too. But that wouldn't be possible since the US is at war. When the nation is at war you don't impeach the commander in chief.

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Reply #22 posted 07/27/03 1:06am

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huggy said:

When the nation is at war you don't impeach the commander in chief.



Don't you mean invasion.

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Reply #23 posted 07/30/03 6:19pm

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How does a coke-head, C student, who cant even correctly pronounce the word "nuclear" get elected president and lead us into war??!?!?

And how is Clinton getting his dick huffed on by an intern a greater threat to this nation than a president misleading citizens about a WAR?! Wasn't the ballot issue enough for us to deal with??
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