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Reply #30 posted 11/29/18 10:05am

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COHEN.

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Reply #31 posted 11/29/18 4:12pm

SoulAlive

Trump is scared to death.That’s why he’s been acting more crazier than usual in these past few weeks lol Mueller’s investigation is driving him insane.
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Reply #32 posted 11/29/18 4:18pm

SoulAlive

DiminutiveRocker said:

COHEN.



His plea deal with Mueller is a disaster for Trump.I think,at this point,Mueller already has a ton of evidence.He knows who is lying and who isn’t.The truth is slowly coming out.
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Reply #33 posted 11/29/18 4:26pm

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SoulAlive said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

COHEN.

His plea deal with Mueller is a disaster for Trump.I think,at this point,Mueller already has a ton of evidence.He knows who is lying and who isn’t.The truth is slowly coming out.


Did you hear trump's pre-helicopter press moment? "Cohen is weak... he is trying to stay out of jail so he is lying.... I have a right to do business, I was not president yet..." all the typical shit.

Mueller must know so much.

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Reply #34 posted 11/29/18 5:30pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:

SoulAlive said:

DiminutiveRocker said: His plea deal with Mueller is a disaster for Trump.I think,at this point,Mueller already has a ton of evidence.He knows who is lying and who isn’t.The truth is slowly coming out.


Did you hear trump's pre-helicopter press moment? "Cohen is weak... he is trying to stay out of jail so he is lying.... I have a right to do business, I was not president yet..." all the typical shit.

Mueller must know so much.

TRUMP TOWER MOSCOW. PENTHOUSE. lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

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Reply #35 posted 11/29/18 9:14pm

SoulAlive

^^ the cost of the penthouse was gonna be $50 million eek :lol:

We all know that Trump is Putin’s puppet...I guess they needed a private place for their “meetings”,lol
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Reply #36 posted 11/29/18 10:22pm

SoulAlive

This is looking like another Watergate eek
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Reply #37 posted 11/30/18 1:21am

SoulAlive

one day they'll make a movie about this scandal.Who will play Michael Cohen? How about......Henry Winkler?? lol

Image result for henry winkler michael cohen

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Reply #38 posted 11/30/18 4:16am

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SoulAlive said:

This is looking like another Watergate eek

more like a nothing gate. there is nothing in any of this that indicates or implicates trump broke any laws.

And again none of these guilty pleas are evidence against trump. The people could testify against him (and get destroyed in cross) but their admission of guilt can not.

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Reply #39 posted 11/30/18 5:30am

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SoulAlive said:

one day they'll make a movie about this scandal.Who will play Michael Cohen? How about......Henry Winkler?? lol

Image result for henry winkler michael cohen

SAYS WHO? SAYS WHO?

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Reply #40 posted 11/30/18 9:18am

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DiminutiveRocker said:

SoulAlive said:

DiminutiveRocker said: His plea deal with Mueller is a disaster for Trump.I think,at this point,Mueller already has a ton of evidence.He knows who is lying and who isn’t.The truth is slowly coming out.


Did you hear trump's pre-helicopter press moment? "Cohen is weak... he is trying to stay out of jail so he is lying.... I have a right to do business, I was not president yet..." all the typical shit.


Mueller must know so much.


nod Cohen's lies were also said by Trumpy Jr. What a pity.

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Reply #41 posted 11/30/18 11:17am

SoulAlive

OnlyNDaUsa said:

SoulAlive said:

This is looking like another Watergate eek

more like a nothing gate. there is nothing in any of this that indicates or implicates trump broke any laws.

And again none of these guilty pleas are evidence against trump. The people could testify against him (and get destroyed in cross) but their admission of guilt can not.

"nothing gate"? lol Where there is smoke,there is always fire.Keep in mind that Mueller has financial records,tape recordings,witness accounts,etc and there is alot that he hasn't even revealed yet.When plea deals are offered to people who were close to Trump,you can bet that a crime (or crimes) were committed wink This is not a game,this is a serious federal investigation.

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Reply #42 posted 11/30/18 11:26am

SoulAlive

and if Trump didn't do anything wrong,why is he becoming so unhinged? Why is this investigation affecting him so much? If he's innocent,he should love the opportunity to have his name cleared.White House insiders say that he is "spooked and paranoid" .Why do you think that is? hmmm

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Reply #43 posted 11/30/18 11:33am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

SoulAlive said:

This is looking like another Watergate eek

more like a nothing gate. there is nothing in any of this that indicates or implicates trump broke any laws.

And again none of these guilty pleas are evidence against trump. The people could testify against him (and get destroyed in cross) but their admission of guilt can not.

so, in all your years of expertise as an armchair law genius, you never heard of perjury?

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[Edited 11/30/18 11:40am]


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Reply #44 posted 11/30/18 11:38am

SoulAlive

We already know that Trump obstructed justice....more than once,in fact.That's one crime right there.There is also a good chance that he committed perjury too.Remember,when Mueller submitted those questions,he knows the answers already.Another huge mistake that Trump is making....dangling a pardon for Manafort.That's actually a form of obstruction of justice too.

What a mess....

[Edited 11/30/18 11:39am]

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Reply #45 posted 11/30/18 12:05pm

SoulAlive

DiminutiveRocker said:

SoulAlive said:

DiminutiveRocker said: His plea deal with Mueller is a disaster for Trump.I think,at this point,Mueller already has a ton of evidence.He knows who is lying and who isn’t.The truth is slowly coming out.


Did you hear trump's pre-helicopter press moment? "Cohen is weak... he is trying to stay out of jail so he is lying.... I have a right to do business, I was not president yet..." all the typical shit.

Mueller must know so much.

nod

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Reply #46 posted 11/30/18 12:07pm

SoulAlive

13cjk13 said:

SoulAlive said:

one day they'll make a movie about this scandal.Who will play Michael Cohen? How about......Henry Winkler?? lol

Image result for henry winkler michael cohen

SAYS WHO? SAYS WHO?

seriously,don't you think that Winkler looks alot like Cohen? lol

"Russiagate: The Movie" starring Henry Winkler as Michael Cohen

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Reply #47 posted 11/30/18 12:19pm

SoulAlive

for those who are having a hard time keeping up with this scandal......

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Reply #48 posted 11/30/18 12:40pm

SoulAlive

DiminutiveRocker said:

After Manafort plead guilty and struck a deal with Speical Council - his lawyers briefed the president's lawyers about PM's discussions with the SC. If the Prez is dangling a pardon = obstruction of justice?

Remember the Pre cannot pardon state crimes, only federal.

I can't believe how stupid Trump is lol dangling a pardon is obstruction of justice! He's trying to influence Manafort's testimony and prevent him from telling the truth.

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Reply #49 posted 11/30/18 12:47pm

SoulAlive

OnlyNDaUsa said:

2freaky4church1 said:

How do you what Mueller has in his report?

how do i KNOW? I never said I knew...

Well,here's one thing that we ALL know: Mueller has tape recordings,financial records,witness testimony,tax records,and all the details of the "hush money" cover-ups.You can best believe that his report will be explosive.And,even before the report is released,we already know that Trump obstructed justice,on more than one occasion.

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Reply #50 posted 11/30/18 1:32pm

Musicslave

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/30/mueller-could-hit-manafort-with-retrial-new-charges-1034623

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Mueller could hit Manafort with retrial, new charges

11/30/2018 10:31 AM EST

Updated 11/30/2018 10:38 AM EST

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Special counsel Robert Mueller’s office is considering retrying former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort on a slew of federal charges that resulted in a hung jury over the summer.

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At a hearing in federal court Friday morning, prosecutors said they are also weighing leveling new criminal charges for Manafort, contending that he obstructed justice and committed additional federal crimes since entering a plea agreement with the special counsel in September.

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“That determination has not been made,” said special counsel attorney Andrew Weissmann.

Weissmann's contention led Judge Amy Berman Jackson, a member of the U.S. District Court of Washington, D.C., to set a tentative March 5 sentencing date for Manafort.

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Prosecutors will file a more detailed explanation of what they believe Manafort lied about to investigators on Dec. 7. Manafort’s defense team will then have until January to reply, leading to a likely late January hearing on the matter.

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Manafort, who was already convicted on tax and bank fraud charges following an August trial on Virginia, appeared to be cooperating with Mueller to avoid a second trial on money laundering charges in Washington. But Mueller’s team said Monday that Manafort lied repeatedly during his discussions with prosecutors.

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Manafort’s attorneys insist he did not violate the plea deal and said they intend to rebut the government’s filing after they see it. Manafort is currently jailed while he awaits sentencing and waived his right to appear in court Friday.

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Reply #51 posted 11/30/18 2:02pm

13cjk13

SoulAlive said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

how do i KNOW? I never said I knew...

Well,here's one thing that we ALL know: Mueller has tape recordings,financial records,witness testimony,tax records,and all the details of the "hush money" cover-ups.You can best believe that his report will be explosive.And,even before the report is released,we already know that Trump obstructed justice,on more than one occasion.

And we also know that even after all the proof, not one single one of his sick, twisted asshole supporters will believe a word of it. biggrin

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Reply #52 posted 11/30/18 2:59pm

SoulAlive

Trump is at the G20 Summit and that was supposed to be the news story this week biggrin
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Reply #53 posted 11/30/18 3:08pm

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13cjk13 said:

SoulAlive said:

Well,here's one thing that we ALL know: Mueller has tape recordings,financial records,witness testimony,tax records,and all the details of the "hush money" cover-ups.You can best believe that his report will be explosive.And,even before the report is released,we already know that Trump obstructed justice,on more than one occasion.

And we also know that even after all the proof, not one single one of his sick, twisted asshole supporters will believe a word of it. biggrin

i have said if there is ever ANY evidence he committed a crime I will not deny it... so far 2 years NOTHING. Remember collusion is not a crime nor is doing business with russia before, during, or after the election

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Reply #54 posted 11/30/18 4:20pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

13cjk13 said:

And we also know that even after all the proof, not one single one of his sick, twisted asshole supporters will believe a word of it. biggrin

i have said if there is ever ANY evidence he committed a crime I will not deny it... so far 2 years NOTHING. Remember collusion is not a crime nor is doing business with russia before, during, or after the election

wait, wait... you famously called for harry reid and any private citizen who agreed with him to be imprisoned for saying the iraq war was lost because their words "give comfort and aid to the enemy"...

BUT you cant see any problem with the president using his office to sleazily make real estate deals in foreign countries that have been cyber-attacking us to alter the course of our country?


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Reply #55 posted 11/30/18 4:23pm

13cjk13

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

i have said if there is ever ANY evidence he committed a crime I will not deny it... so far 2 years NOTHING. Remember collusion is not a crime nor is doing business with russia before, during, or after the election

wait, wait... you famously called for harry reid and any private citizen who agreed with him to be imprisoned for saying the iraq war was lost because their words "give comfort and aid to the enemy"...

BUT you cant see any problem with the president using his office to sleazily make real estate deals in foreign countries that have been cyber-attacking us to alter the course of our country?

Yep, that's NOTHING.

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Reply #56 posted 11/30/18 4:29pm

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13cjk13 said:

cborgman said:

wait, wait... you famously called for harry reid and any private citizen who agreed with him to be imprisoned for saying the iraq war was lost because their words "give comfort and aid to the enemy"...

BUT you cant see any problem with the president using his office to sleazily make real estate deals in foreign countries that have been cyber-attacking us to alter the course of our country?

Yep, that's NOTHING.

i mean... there's being selectively partisan, and then there's being only levels of partisan.


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Reply #57 posted 11/30/18 4:46pm

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cborgman said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

i have said if there is ever ANY evidence he committed a crime I will not deny it... so far 2 years NOTHING. Remember collusion is not a crime nor is doing business with russia before, during, or after the election

wait, wait... you famously called for harry reid and any private citizen who agreed with him to be imprisoned for saying the iraq war was lost because their words "give comfort and aid to the enemy"...

BUT you cant see any problem with the president using his office to sleazily make real estate deals in foreign countries that have been cyber-attacking us to alter the course of our country?

that sounds close to something I said... did you agree? or not?

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Reply #58 posted 11/30/18 4:50pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

cborgman said:

wait, wait... you famously called for harry reid and any private citizen who agreed with him to be imprisoned for saying the iraq war was lost because their words "give comfort and aid to the enemy"...

BUT you cant see any problem with the president using his office to sleazily make real estate deals in foreign countries that have been cyber-attacking us to alter the course of our country?

that sounds close to something I said... did you agree? or not?

not close to; exactly what you said.


and obviously i dont agree. as i pointed out to you then, free speech instantly negates the ridiculous argument you made that merely saying "the iraq war is lost" is an act of treason. the fact that you think 5 words bring aid and comfort to enemies was beyond ridiculous to begin with.


also: tell me again how youre against facisim, when you want to chuck the 1st amendment and imprison people for saying a war was lost?


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Reply #59 posted 11/30/18 4:53pm

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cborgman said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

that sounds close to something I said... did you agree? or not?

not close to; exactly what you said.

and obviously i dont agree. as i pointed out to you then, free speech instantly negates the ridiculous argument you made that merely saying "the iraq war is lost" is an act of treason. the fact that you think words bring aid and comfor to enemies was beyiind silly to begin with.

so something you claim i said 10 years ago means that Trump MUST be guilty? and we are not at war with russia... so there is that key difference. but i can admit that if i said that I was either being dramatic or wrong

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