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Reply #60 posted 11/30/18 4:54pm

OnlyNDaUsa

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but you know what? cborgman I forgot I ignore you. I do not need to have you bait me again...

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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Reply #61 posted 11/30/18 5:00pm

cborgman

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

cborgman said:

not close to; exactly what you said.

and obviously i dont agree. as i pointed out to you then, free speech instantly negates the ridiculous argument you made that merely saying "the iraq war is lost" is an act of treason. the fact that you think words bring aid and comfor to enemies was beyiind silly to begin with.

so something you claim i said 10 years ago means that Trump MUST be guilty? and we are not at war with russia... so there is that key difference. but i can admit that if i said that I was either being dramatic or wrong

"what is he going to do next? met troops at the air port and spit in their faces? sicking. he ought to be tried for treason. his word have given aid and comfort to the enemy."

"ANYWAY this piece of sub human filth... what a low thing to say. and in the wake of his parties attempt to circumvent the constitution by stealing powers of the president by taking control of the powers of commander in chief... that and the Nancy the felon pelosi ... sicking

so now the DNC is the party of the KKK and surrender and abandon the troops..."

"and then think of how the terrorist take it... the only ones happier than you all are the terrorist... nice company"

"but for the senate leader to proclaim it lost, makes troop feel bad and the terrorist fell good. he is a trader and ought to go to prison for treason"

a SMALL sampling...

and you admit you were wrong about something? arent you always saying youre almost never wrong about anything every time someone points out youre wrong about something?

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"The fascist of the future will call themselves anti fascists."
- Ignazio Silone
"RESIST FASCISM. VOTE TRUMP." - Drumpf supporters
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Reply #62 posted 11/30/18 5:09pm

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Haha! Classic... and you do not really get what I was doing do you? LOL

as to almost never wrong about anything. well, that was over 10 years ago.

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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Reply #63 posted 11/30/18 5:14pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Haha! Classic... and you do not really get what I was doing do you? LOL

as to almost never wrong about anything. well, that was over 10 years ago.

oh, do tell.


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Reply #64 posted 11/30/18 6:00pm

SoulAlive

lol
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Reply #65 posted 12/01/18 8:18am

13cjk13

Yet another "nothing burger" lol

Cohen: Trump Knew I Called Kremlin for Help With Trump Tower Moscow

Source: The Daily Beast



The president downplays his knowledge of the project, but his ex-fixer says he knew a lot—and that a cover-up before Congress was crafted while talking to Trump’s lawyers.

Justin Miller
12.01.18 2:32 AM ET


Another bombshell lobbed by Michael Cohen exploded late Friday night: He says he told Donald Trump about a phone call to the Kremlin asking for the Russian government’s help to build a Trump Tower in Moscow in 2016.

And Cohen also claims he was talking to Trump’s lawyers and White House staff in 2017 while he crafted a misleading statement to Congress seeking to cover up the truth about the Moscow project and the level of Trump’s involvement.

The twin accusations were made late Friday by Cohen’s lawyers in a case being prosecuted by Special Counsel Robert Mueller. They were contained in a sentencing memo in which Cohen asked for a no-jail sentence in exchange for his cooperation with Mueller’s investigation of Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

Cohen told the House and Senate intelligence committees last year that he only briefed Trump three times about the plan to build a 100-story skyscraper in Russia’s capital. Cohen also said his general inquiry to the Kremlin went unanswered.

Read more: https://www.thedailybeast...w?ref=home

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Reply #66 posted 12/01/18 9:13am

poppys

^^ nod

For the record, I have ZERO investments in Russia.

Russia has never tried to use leverage over me. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA - NO DEALS, NO LOANS, NO NOTHING!

I don't know Putin, have no deals in Russia, and the haters are going crazy - yet Obama can make a deal with Iran, #1 in terror, no problem!

In the strictest sense, none of these denials appears to represent a lie as far as we know, because of Trump’s adherence to present-tense verbs: I have no dealings with Russia … I don’t do deals … I have no loans with Russia. But these statements serve to mislead people about Trump’s attempted deal with Russia and Cohen’s and Sater’s past contacts with the Russian government. And one claim in particular, “We’ve stayed away,” rings particularly disingenuous.




Yesterday's tweets from The Argentina summit.

"Oh, I get it! I am a very good developer, happily living my life, when I see our Country going in the wrong direction (to put it mildly). Against all odds, I decide to run for President & continue to run my business-very legal & very cool, talked about it on the campaign trail.

"Lightly looked at doing a building somewhere in Russia. Put up zero money, zero guarantees and didn't do the project. Witch Hunt!"

Put up zero money because Russians were supposed to pay for it, no doubt.

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Reply #67 posted 12/01/18 10:43am

13cjk13

poppys said:

^^ nod

For the record, I have ZERO investments in Russia.

Russia has never tried to use leverage over me. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA - NO DEALS, NO LOANS, NO NOTHING!

I don't know Putin, have no deals in Russia, and the haters are going crazy - yet Obama can make a deal with Iran, #1 in terror, no problem!

In the strictest sense, none of these denials appears to represent a lie as far as we know, because of Trump’s adherence to present-tense verbs: I have no dealings with Russia … I don’t do deals … I have no loans with Russia. But these statements serve to mislead people about Trump’s attempted deal with Russia and Cohen’s and Sater’s past contacts with the Russian government. And one claim in particular, “We’ve stayed away,” rings particularly disingenuous.




Yesterday's tweets from The Argentina summit.

"Oh, I get it! I am a very good developer, happily living my life, when I see our Country going in the wrong direction (to put it mildly). Against all odds, I decide to run for President & continue to run my business-very legal & very cool, talked about it on the campaign trail.

"Lightly looked at doing a building somewhere in Russia. Put up zero money, zero guarantees and didn't do the project. Witch Hunt!"

Put up zero money because Russians were supposed to pay for it, no doubt.

"very legal, very cool", says the dementia ridden asshole of a grandpa.

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Reply #68 posted 12/02/18 12:26am

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Rachel Maddow brought up some great points about Russia and Trump. The first person that ever asked Trump about sanctions publically against Russia was ... Maria Butina (a confirmed Russian spy). Until this spy prompted Trump to speak about sanctions, Trump had not mentioned sanctions publically before.

While Trump was publically stating that he felt we didn't need those sanctions against Russia, he is working towards getting the Trump Tower Moscow. The bank in Moscow that would have helped to finance the Trump Tower Moscow was one of the banks that had sanctions against them and that bank could not have been used as long as sanctions were in place against them.

Now Flynn comes into play with this...he lied about talking with Russia about sanctions. Lied under oath, lied to FBI. Not only did Flynn lie, but the person under him in the National Security, also lied about Flynn discussing sanctions with Russia, but after Flynn announced that he had lied under oath, the other one revised her statement and the FBI accepted it. But Maddow's point was that while Flynn was lying to the American people, Russia (and Putin) knew Flynn was lying, knew Flynn had been discussing sanctions, which compromised Flynn and opened him up for blackmail from Russia. And while all of that was going on --- Trump was still working towards getting the contract for Trump Tower Moscow. But not only was Flynn compromised, Trump would have been compromised, too, because he knew Flynn was trying to get those sanctions lifted (and Trump was working towards that, too), all while Flynn was denying it and Trump was trying to get Trump Tower Moscow project underway.


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Reply #69 posted 12/03/18 7:08am

poppys

benni said:

Rachel Maddow brought up some great points about Russia and Trump. The first person that ever asked Trump about sanctions publically against Russia was ... Maria Butina (a confirmed Russian spy). Until this spy prompted Trump to speak about sanctions, Trump had not mentioned sanctions publically before.

While Trump was publically stating that he felt we didn't need those sanctions against Russia, he is working towards getting the Trump Tower Moscow. The bank in Moscow that would have helped to finance the Trump Tower Moscow was one of the banks that had sanctions against them and that bank could not have been used as long as sanctions were in place against them.

Now Flynn comes into play with this...he lied about talking with Russia about sanctions. Lied under oath, lied to FBI. Not only did Flynn lie, but the person under him in the National Security, also lied about Flynn discussing sanctions with Russia, but after Flynn announced that he had lied under oath, the other one revised her statement and the FBI accepted it. But Maddow's point was that while Flynn was lying to the American people, Russia (and Putin) knew Flynn was lying, knew Flynn had been discussing sanctions, which compromised Flynn and opened him up for blackmail from Russia. And while all of that was going on --- Trump was still working towards getting the contract for Trump Tower Moscow. But not only was Flynn compromised, Trump would have been compromised, too, because he knew Flynn was trying to get those sanctions lifted (and Trump was working towards that, too), all while Flynn was denying it and Trump was trying to get Trump Tower Moscow project underway.


nod

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Reply #70 posted 12/03/18 7:59am

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poppys said:

benni said:

Rachel Maddow brought up some great points about Russia and Trump. The first person that ever asked Trump about sanctions publically against Russia was ... Maria Butina (a confirmed Russian spy). Until this spy prompted Trump to speak about sanctions, Trump had not mentioned sanctions publically before.

While Trump was publically stating that he felt we didn't need those sanctions against Russia, he is working towards getting the Trump Tower Moscow. The bank in Moscow that would have helped to finance the Trump Tower Moscow was one of the banks that had sanctions against them and that bank could not have been used as long as sanctions were in place against them.

Now Flynn comes into play with this...he lied about talking with Russia about sanctions. Lied under oath, lied to FBI. Not only did Flynn lie, but the person under him in the National Security, also lied about Flynn discussing sanctions with Russia, but after Flynn announced that he had lied under oath, the other one revised her statement and the FBI accepted it. But Maddow's point was that while Flynn was lying to the American people, Russia (and Putin) knew Flynn was lying, knew Flynn had been discussing sanctions, which compromised Flynn and opened him up for blackmail from Russia. And while all of that was going on --- Trump was still working towards getting the contract for Trump Tower Moscow. But not only was Flynn compromised, Trump would have been compromised, too, because he knew Flynn was trying to get those sanctions lifted (and Trump was working towards that, too), all while Flynn was denying it and Trump was trying to get Trump Tower Moscow project underway.


nod

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I believe that was a very significant point too. Keep in mind, people close to trump back then swore that he never expected to win (despite of what he claims publicy.) He wanted to position himself for launching a Trump TV network, along with his dream project of Trump Tower Moscow. He was surprised as everyone else that half of America bought into the con. lol

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Putin said if you can get these pesky sanctions removed, then you can have the financing you need for the TTM. Hence, the change in the Republican platform during their convention. I always thought that should have been a bigger RED FLAG than it was.

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Reply #71 posted 12/03/18 6:38pm

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Musicslave said:

poppys said:

nod

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I believe that was a very significant point too. Keep in mind, people close to trump back then swore that he never expected to win (despite of what he claims publicy.) He wanted to position himself for launching a Trump TV network, along with his dream project of Trump Tower Moscow. He was surprised as everyone else that half of America bought into the con. lol

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Putin said if you can get these pesky sanctions removed, then you can have the financing you need for the TTM. Hence, the change in the Republican platform during their convention. I always thought that should have been a bigger RED FLAG than it was.

yeahthat

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Reply #72 posted 12/03/18 6:39pm

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cborgman said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Haha! Classic... and you do not really get what I was doing do you? LOL

as to almost never wrong about anything. well, that was over 10 years ago.

oh, do tell.


lol hug

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Reply #73 posted 12/05/18 6:02am

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FLYNN.


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Reply #74 posted 12/06/18 7:30am

Musicslave

The republicans don't know how to leave well enough alone. They are scheduled to drag Comey to the Hill to testify tomorrow. I will laugh my butt off if he drops a bombshell and they end up regretting re-opening the handling of Hillary's emails a-gain.

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I believe they're scheduled to meet with Loretta Lynch too.

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Just sayin, it might backfire..... We'll see.

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Reply #75 posted 12/06/18 8:03am

poppys

Musicslave said:

The republicans don't know how to leave well enough alone. They are scheduled to drag Comey to the Hill to testify tomorrow. I will laugh my butt off if he drops a bombshell and they end up regretting re-opening the handling of Hillary's emails a-gain.

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I believe they're scheduled to meet with Loretta Lynch too.

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Just sayin, it might backfire..... We'll see.


It would be nice if Comey would say something helpful besides being a press ho with horrible timing.

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Reply #76 posted 12/06/18 11:08am

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poppys said:

Musicslave said:

The republicans don't know how to leave well enough alone. They are scheduled to drag Comey to the Hill to testify tomorrow. I will laugh my butt off if he drops a bombshell and they end up regretting re-opening the handling of Hillary's emails a-gain.

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I believe they're scheduled to meet with Loretta Lynch too.

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Just sayin, it might backfire..... We'll see.


It would be nice if Comey would say something helpful besides being a press ho with horrible timing.


He just might. Didn't I hear he wanted the questioning to be public?

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Reply #77 posted 12/06/18 2:24pm

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we gotta drain the swamp and get rid of all these shady criminals biggrin

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Reply #78 posted 12/06/18 4:17pm

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The juiciest, most flavorful nothingburger ever! It must be all that fat and bacon drenching from those thick cheesy patsies. lol



FOR ONCE ONYINDAUSA MAY HAVE BEEN RIGHT!!

CROOKED TRUMP. LOCK HIM UP!
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Reply #79 posted 12/06/18 4:31pm

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^ what are you talking about?

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Reply #80 posted 12/06/18 5:06pm

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

The juiciest, most flavorful nothingburger ever! It must be all that fat and bacon drenching from those thick cheesy patsies. lol



FOR ONCE ONYINDAUSA MAY HAVE BEEN RIGHT!!

How's Germany?

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Reply #81 posted 12/06/18 5:19pm

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poppys said:



Ugot2shakesumthin said:


The juiciest, most flavorful nothingburger ever! It must be all that fat and bacon drenching from those thick cheesy patsies. lol



FOR ONCE ONYINDAUSA MAY HAVE BEEN RIGHT!!



How's Germany?




How’s your mental health lol
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Reply #82 posted 12/06/18 5:24pm

poppys

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

poppys said:

How's Germany?


How’s your mental health lol

You said you were in the US military stationed in Germany, I didn't. falloff

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Reply #83 posted 12/06/18 5:55pm

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poppys said:



Ugot2shakesumthin said:


poppys said:


How's Germany?




How’s your mental health lol


You said you were in the US military stationed in Germany, I didn't. falloff



I never said that. Lol you have been making insane assumption since the tine you’ve been here. I question your mental health as you go out of your way to make weird comments.

Now if you can find anywhere on this site where I said “I”
Said I was stationed in Germany “ please do and post it. There is a google search function right up there. I do t know what you’re problem with me is as I ignore you psycho ass mostly.

Not that being proven wrong will solve anything, you’re still batshit crazy
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Reply #84 posted 12/06/18 7:23pm

poppys

It was pulled. Pokeno and Only were on it. They were going after you. Pokeno was the one who asked you. That's what you said.

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Reply #85 posted 12/06/18 7:29pm

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poppys said:

It was pulled. Pokeno and Only were on it. They were going after you. Pokeno was the one who asked you. That's what you said.




Lol, yeah right. You’re just nuts.

And how old are you anyway? I notice you have a difficult time telling when someone is being sarcastic like my “nothingburger” comment up above and others. You know that’s a sign of early dementia...
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Reply #86 posted 12/07/18 7:23am

poppys

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

poppys said:


It was pulled. Pokeno and Only were on it. They were going after you. Pokeno was the one who asked you. That's what you said.


Lol, yeah right. You’re just nuts. And how old are you anyway? I notice you have a difficult time telling when someone is being sarcastic like my “nothingburger” comment up above and others. You know that’s a sign of early dementia...


You can attack me all you want. Not the first time, typical tactic.

You replied to Pokeno that you were a latina stationed in the US military in Germany, that's a fact. I didn't make it up. Last time this came up you said it was "a long tme ago" so now you're backtracking again.

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Reply #87 posted 12/07/18 8:25am

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Alrighty then, I was going to ask what you guys think about John Kelly getting ready to resign from the White House...is anyone surprised? I think trump may have asked him to leave. Then there is the Comey meeting behind closed doors going on right now, and trump’s morning tweet tsunami, and Mueller about to release some more details..... So what y’all think about all this going on right now?
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Reply #88 posted 12/07/18 8:38am

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

poppys said:

It was pulled. Pokeno and Only were on it. They were going after you. Pokeno was the one who asked you. That's what you said.




Lol, yeah right. You’re just nuts.

And how old are you anyway? I notice you have a difficult time telling when someone is being sarcastic like my “nothingburger” comment up above and others. You know that’s a sign of early dementia...
[Edited 12/6/18 19:35pm]

Not to add to the fire, and hope I’m not being rude by inquiring, but I do recall in the past in a thread here, that you stated you were in the military, and stationed in Germany at the time you posted that, and stated you are a Latina. Is any of that not right? Or that you’re no longer in the military and no longer in Germany?
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Reply #89 posted 12/07/18 8:39am

poppys

2elijah said:

Alrighty then, I was going to ask what you guys think about John Kelly getting ready to resign from the White House...is anyone surprised? I think trump may have asked him to leave. Then there is the Comey meeting behind closed doors going on right now, and trump’s morning tweet tsunami, and Mueller about to release some more details...... So what y’all think about all this going on right now?


Oh wow, didn't know that. According to CNN, they are no longer on speaking terms. Whoever comes next will probably be worse. More of a yes man probably.


He's replacing Nikki Haley with someone with zero experience.

The Hill...Trump officially tapped State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert as U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, ending weeks of speculation about Nikki Haley’s replacement.

The U.N. post represents a significant promotion for Nauert, who since April 2017 has served as the State Department’s chief spokesperson.

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