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Reply #30 posted 09/14/18 9:40am

Empress

SuperFurryAnimal said:

Women's rights? Didn't know she was in the men's league.

You're an idiot! Anytime a woman questions anything she is belittled and if she's a black woman, god help her. The cartoon is disgusting and I hope Serena continues to stand up for her rights.

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Reply #31 posted 09/14/18 9:40am

Empress

13cjk13 said:

John McEnroe. every single match.

I have been watching tennis for 40 years and you are absolutley correct! John and many other men have said and done worse over and over again.

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Reply #32 posted 09/14/18 10:28am

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ThatWhiteDude said:

It's not surprising that you don't see the racism here rolleyes


Doesn't surprise me that our forums millennial snowflake does.

This is homophobic?




And this? Racist too?




And this?




Louis would laugh about this:




Jaques would too:


But this would probably be racist aigain, or??




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Reply #33 posted 09/14/18 10:32am

13cjk13

Empress said:

13cjk13 said:

John McEnroe. every single match.

I have been watching tennis for 40 years and you are absolutley correct! John and many other men have said and done worse over and over again.

White men. But we're just snowflakes for pointing it out.

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Reply #34 posted 09/14/18 10:37am

ThatWhiteDude

You call me a snowflake but you are the one who's attacking me. These are not even the same comics Tweety, why was there a need to draw Serena like this? It doesn't even look like her. Do you know what she looks like? Or do all black women look the same to you?

TweetyV6 said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

It's not surprising that you don't see the racism here rolleyes


Doesn't surprise me that our forums millennial snowflake does.

This is homophobic?




And this? Racist too?




And this?




Louis would laugh about this:




Jaques would too:


But this would probably be racist aigain, or??




People like you.... GET A LIFE!
Try to look on the bright side of life and laugh every now and then. Makes life easier.

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Reply #35 posted 09/14/18 10:42am

ThatWhiteDude

Tweety, you always call me a snowflake when I point out racism, EVERY SINGLE TIME. You did this when I was calling you out for sending me a video of an old white racist man who's crying about youtube banning his racist video. I was a snowflake for pointing that out, and now I am a snowflake because I say that the comic is racist? Do you realize that I'm not the only one who said that? Are the others here also snowflakes? Maybe it's time for you to make up your mind, stop acting blind whenever we point out racism.

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Reply #36 posted 09/14/18 10:55am

TweetyV6

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ThatWhiteDude said:

These are not even the same comics Tweety, why was there a need to draw Serena like this? It doesn't even look like her.


It's a fucking CARTOON. Satirical catroons are intended to make fun of somebody or make them look ridiculous. Exaggerating stereotypes is part of that ART (yes, it's an art!)

If you don't see that what the catroon want's do depict, a furious Serena Williams acting like a little child (hence the passifier on the ground) in her ridiculous outfit (a tu tu as tennis dress? WTF?) with her hair tied up like she did. THEN the cartoon is spot on

That the person who drew it hasn't got the greatest skills depicting people in his cartoon recognisable you might call it a flaw. But that's not the primary intention of the cartoon.

The fucktwats that scream "Racism!" when they look at the cartoon, they have a problem of looking too seriously at life. What want these people to achieve? That the cartoonists gets fired? Trialed? Killed maybe? (Charlie Hebdo anyone?) How does it impact their lives?? Do they sleep bad? Get sick to the stomach?

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Reply #37 posted 09/14/18 10:56am

TweetyV6

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Tweety, you always call me a snowflake when I point out racism, EVERY SINGLE TIME. You did this when I was calling you out for sending me a video of an old white racist man who's crying about youtube banning his racist video. I was a snowflake for pointing that out, and now I am a snowflake because I say that the comic is racist? Do you realize that I'm not the only one who said that? Are the others here also snowflakes? Maybe it's time for you to make up your mind, stop acting blind whenever we point out racism.

GET OVER IT!

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Reply #38 posted 09/14/18 11:11am

ThatWhiteDude

TweetyV6 said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

These are not even the same comics Tweety, why was there a need to draw Serena like this? It doesn't even look like her.


It's a fucking CARTOON. Satirical catroons are intended to make fun of somebody or make them look ridiculous. Exaggerating stereotypes is part of that ART (yes, it's an art!)

If you don't see that what the catroon want's do depict, a furious Serena Williams acting like a little child (hence the passifier on the ground) in her ridiculous outfit (a tu tu as tennis dress? WTF?) with her hair tied up like she did. THEN the cartoon is spot on

That the person who drew it hasn't got the greatest skills depicting people in his cartoon recognisable you might call it a flaw. But that's not the primary intention of the cartoon.

The fucktwats that scream "Racism!" when they look at the cartoon, they have a problem of looking too seriously at life. What want these people to achieve? That the cartoonists gets fired? Trialed? Killed maybe? (Charlie Hebdo anyone?) How does it impact their lives?? Do they sleep bad? Get sick to the stomach?

So we're all fucktwats for pointing out racism?

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Reply #39 posted 09/14/18 11:11am

free2bFreeda2

CherryMoon57 said:

Williams is not a victim, she's a drama queen.


no, you are wrong. Serena IS a Queen.
for those of you who vilify her for her (obvious justified) anger are no different then the covert racist who are currently condemning Colin Kaepernick for (kneeling) speaking out against America's injustices against black men/people of color.
πŸ€“
Serena represents us americans in the u s on a global scale.
as it's been expressed here.
were she a man the anger she expressed on the court would have been tolerated. (as with john mcenroe).
for those of you who choose to okay the obvious niggardly cartoon depiction of Serena still hold on to a racist mindset when it comes to black people who are famous and great contributors to our country. (obviously that's how your mind's eye sees blacks-only as caricatures and not as human beings.) seems you critics honker down in the shadows just waiting for a chance to stand up to criticize black people famous or no.

: https://en.m.wikipedia.or...a_Williams
Legacy
Williams is hailed by many coaches, players and sportscasters to be one of the best female tennis players in the Open Era. Her numerous victories on court have largely been a positive influence on young girls and boys who see Williams as a role model and an ambassador of tennis.
Some commentators, players and sports writers regard Williams as the greatest female tennis player and perhaps the greatest athlete of all time.

2015:

erhaps the greatest athlete of all time.

so do your homework.....
recognize the greatness in one of our american sports icons.

so do your homework.....
recognize the greatness in one of our american sports icons.
try to realize that Serena openly expressing her anger and frustration is not reserved for white men only in the world of sports.

πŸ€“
so please do your homework.....
recognize the greatness in Serena Williams as of our great american sports icons.
also seems you naysayers fail to point out that Serena recently had a baby yet she came back to a win before this latest match.[/i]
GTFU!
[Edited 9/14/18 12:42pm]
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Reply #40 posted 09/14/18 11:23am

ThatWhiteDude

TweetyV6 said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

Tweety, you always call me a snowflake when I point out racism, EVERY SINGLE TIME. You did this when I was calling you out for sending me a video of an old white racist man who's crying about youtube banning his racist video. I was a snowflake for pointing that out, and now I am a snowflake because I say that the comic is racist? Do you realize that I'm not the only one who said that? Are the others here also snowflakes? Maybe it's time for you to make up your mind, stop acting blind whenever we point out racism.

GET OVER IT!

Nope

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Reply #41 posted 09/14/18 11:31am

free2bFreeda2

ThatWhiteDude said:



TweetyV6 said:




ThatWhiteDude said:


Tweety, you always call me a snowflake when I point out racism, EVERY SINGLE TIME. You did this when I was calling you out for sending me a video of an old white racist man who's crying about youtube banning his racist video. I was a snowflake for pointing that out, and now I am a snowflake because I say that the comic is racist? Do you realize that I'm not the only one who said that? Are the others here also snowflakes? Maybe it's time for you to make up your mind, stop acting blind whenever we point out racism.




GET OVER IT!



Nope


seems one's mind is frozen in time and wants to spew his solidified mind set just to infect others. ignore the unimportant corn flake, aka; troller.
seems one is blind and lost in his own snow storm.
πŸ€”?
(respectfully)
Make
America's
Government
A countable
Kaepernick's cause, is the eradication of police brutality in America, in case you forgot β€” is the true message.
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Reply #42 posted 09/14/18 11:59am

ThatWhiteDude

free2bFreeda2 said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

Nope

seems one's mind is frozen in time and wants to spew his solidified mind set just to infect others. ignore the unimportant corn flake, aka; troller. seems one is blind and lost in his own snow storm. πŸ€”? (respectfully)

thumbs up! Yes.

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Reply #43 posted 09/14/18 12:09pm

DiminutiveRock
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CherryMoon57 said:

13cjk13 said:

John McEnroe. every single match.

You cannot be serious!


I'm serious - McEnroe was KNOWN for his tyraids on the court - throwing rackets, screaming at the umpires.

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Reply #44 posted 09/14/18 12:31pm

13cjk13

TweetyV6 said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

These are not even the same comics Tweety, why was there a need to draw Serena like this? It doesn't even look like her.


It's a fucking CARTOON. Satirical catroons are intended to make fun of somebody or make them look ridiculous. Exaggerating stereotypes is part of that ART (yes, it's an art!)

If you don't see that what the catroon want's do depict, a furious Serena Williams acting like a little child (hence the passifier on the ground) in her ridiculous outfit (a tu tu as tennis dress? WTF?) with her hair tied up like she did. THEN the cartoon is spot on

That the person who drew it hasn't got the greatest skills depicting people in his cartoon recognisable you might call it a flaw. But that's not the primary intention of the cartoon.

The fucktwats that scream "Racism!" when they look at the cartoon, they have a problem of looking too seriously at life. What want these people to achieve? That the cartoonists gets fired? Trialed? Killed maybe? (Charlie Hebdo anyone?) How does it impact their lives?? Do they sleep bad? Get sick to the stomach?

You just happen to deal with your dark skin, your separate drinking fountains and theatres and your great grandparents slavery better than others. Have a heart.

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Reply #45 posted 09/14/18 12:32pm

13cjk13

DiminutiveRocker said:

CherryMoon57 said:

You cannot be serious!


I'm serious - McEnroe was KNOWN for his tyraids on the court - throwing rackets, screaming at the umpires.

I CAN be serious!!!!

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Reply #46 posted 09/14/18 12:38pm

CherryMoon57

'All generalizations are false, including this one.' Mark Twain
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Reply #47 posted 09/14/18 1:01pm

free2bFreeda2

CherryMoon57 said:


sho u rite!


πŸ‘‡
some might say Serena's out burst vs McEnroe's is an example of white male privilege. πŸ‘€
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Reply #48 posted 09/14/18 1:31pm

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ThatWhiteDude said:

free2bFreeda2 said:

ThatWhiteDude said: seems one's mind is frozen in time and wants to spew his solidified mind set just to infect others. ignore the unimportant corn flake, aka; troller. seems one is blind and lost in his own snow storm. πŸ€”? (respectfully)

thumbs up! Yes.


Co-sign yes

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Reply #49 posted 09/14/18 1:33pm

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free2bFreeda2 said:

CherryMoon57 said:

sho u rite! πŸ‘‡ some might say Serena's out burst vs McEnroe's is an example of white male privilege. πŸ‘€


Thanks Freeda! clapping

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Reply #50 posted 09/14/18 2:24pm

IanRG

DiminutiveRocker said:

CherryMoon57 said:

You cannot be serious!


I'm serious - McEnroe was KNOWN for his tyraids on the court - throwing rackets, screaming at the umpires.

.

That does not make his, or her, frequent tyraids on the court right.

.

It also fails to take into account that McEnroe did not always get away with it and Williams is not always punished for her rule breaking. When was Williams disqualified and ejected from a tournament? Because this DID happen to McEnroe. Even if he did get away with more over his career (and I don't know if he did), worst punishment for worst punishment, he did get it worse then she did.

[Edited 9/14/18 14:37pm]

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Reply #51 posted 09/14/18 2:26pm

CherryMoon57

DiminutiveRocker said:

free2bFreeda2 said:

sho u rite! πŸ‘‡ some might say Serena's out burst vs McEnroe's is an example of white male privilege. πŸ‘€


Thanks Freeda! clapping

Still two wrong don't make a right. That umpire at the McEnroe match was just too weak to apply the rules and back then things might have been different.
McEnroe wouldn't get away with this behaviour nowadays.

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Reply #52 posted 09/14/18 2:36pm

IanRG

free2bFreeda2 said:

CherryMoon57 said:

Williams is not a victim, she's a drama queen.

no, you are wrong. Serena IS a Queen. for those of you who vilify her for her (obvious justified) anger are no different then the covert racist who are currently condemning Colin Kaepernick for (kneeling) speaking out against America's injustices against black men/people of color. πŸ€“ Serena represents us americans in the u s on a global scale. as it's been expressed here. were she a man the anger she expressed on the court would have been tolerated. (as with john mcenroe). for those of you who choose to okay the obvious niggardly cartoon depiction of Serena still hold on to a racist mindset when it comes to black people who are famous and great contributors to our country. (obviously that's how your mind's eye sees blacks-only as caricatures and not as human beings.) seems you critics honker down in the shadows just waiting for a chance to stand up to criticize black people famous or no. : https://en.m.wikipedia.or...a_Williams Legacy Williams is hailed by many coaches, players and sportscasters to be one of the best female tennis players in the Open Era. Her numerous victories on court have largely been a positive influence on young girls and boys who see Williams as a role model and an ambassador of tennis. Some commentators, players and sports writers regard Williams as the greatest female tennis player and perhaps the greatest athlete of all time. 2015: erhaps the greatest athlete of all time. so do your homework...... recognize the greatness in one of our american sports icons. so do your homework...... recognize the greatness in one of our american sports icons. try to realize that Serena openly expressing her anger and frustration is not reserved for white men only in the world of sports. πŸ€“ so please do your homework...... recognize the greatness in Serena Williams as of our great american sports icons. also seems you naysayers fail to point out that Serena recently had a baby yet she came back to a win before this latest match.[/i] GTFU! [Edited 9/14/18 12:42pm]

.

Yes, she is amazing Queen of tennis and for sport with a super amazing impressive record. She is on the verge of replacing Margaret Court as objectively the best female tennis player of all time.

.

This does not mean that how she acted in the 2018 US Open was anything more than being a drama queen as result of frustration in being beaten by Naomi Osaka. She made what should have been a fantastic day for Naomi, one where Naomi cried in sorrow and felt the need to apologise for winning by beating the crowd favourite / local hero.

.

And getting frustrated and angry in the heat of moment does not take anything away from Serena's many, many successes, or her skills and achievements.

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Reply #53 posted 09/14/18 3:04pm

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I think the main issue is sportsmanship. The excuse of β€œwell, others have done it too!” NEVER flies.

It’s a sport. A professional sport. And professionalism and sportsmanship is the least to ask for. It’s part of the deal.
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Reply #54 posted 09/14/18 3:21pm

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

I think the main issue is sportsmanship. The excuse of β€œwell, others have done it too!” NEVER flies. It’s a sport. A professional sport. And professionalism and sportsmanship is the least to ask for. It’s part of the deal.

.

Exactly. Everyone can think of a moment when they feel their favourite athlete/team has been given a stiff one by the refs. It's just a reality of sports. It's not always about gender or race. But when one's only rebuttal to an OBVIOUS violation of conduct and sportsmanship is "yeah, well, someone else did it too and got off lighter!", then you're scraping the barrel for an excuse.

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Reply #55 posted 09/14/18 3:44pm

IanRG

toejam said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

I think the main issue is sportsmanship. The excuse of β€œwell, others have done it too!” NEVER flies. It’s a sport. A professional sport. And professionalism and sportsmanship is the least to ask for. It’s part of the deal.

.

Exactly. Everyone can think of a moment when they feel their favourite athlete/team has been given a stiff one by the refs. It's just a reality of sports. It's not always about gender or race. But when one's only rebuttal to an OBVIOUS violation of conduct and sportsmanship is "yeah, well, someone else did it too and got off lighter!", then you're scraping the barrel for an excuse.

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Agreed

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Reply #56 posted 09/14/18 4:34pm

free2bFreeda2

imo it's not so much about the loss as it is about the demeaning and ugly caricature and the selective denigrating words many have expressed right here in this thread.
but then if you've never been demeaned in a racist cartoon, then no way would you understand the painful insult.
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Reply #57 posted 09/14/18 5:17pm

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free2bFreeda2 said:

imo it's not so much about the loss as it is about the demeaning and ugly caricature and the selective denigrating words many have expressed right here in this thread. but then if you've never been demeaned in a racist cartoon, then no way would you understand the painful insult.

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Totally with you about the cartoon.

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Reply #58 posted 09/14/18 5:29pm

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IanRG said:



free2bFreeda2 said:


imo it's not so much about the loss as it is about the demeaning and ugly caricature and the selective denigrating words many have expressed right here in this thread. but then if you've never been demeaned in a racist cartoon, then no way would you understand the painful insult.

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Totally with you about the cartoon.


Yes that was tasteless.
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Reply #59 posted 09/14/18 5:52pm

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free2bFreeda2 said:

imo it's not so much about the loss as it is about the demeaning and ugly caricature and the selective denigrating words many have expressed right here in this thread. but then if you've never been demeaned in a racist cartoon, then no way would you understand the painful insult.


Whether or not you specifically have been demeaned in a cartoon in your past does not mean this cartoon is about you. If you feel pained and insulted here, ask yourself why. Why do you feel personally insulted when the cartoon seeks to portray Serena as a spoiled cry-baby? - which I think is fair game given her immaturity in that moment.

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