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Thread started 09/09/18 4:09pm

JoeyC

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Dallas officer accused of killing man after entering wrong home



So, I'm surprised that this hasn't been posted yet.

Lately, i don't think I've been so angry at a police shooting as i have been with this one. What was this woman thinking? Regardless if it was a tragic mistake or not, she must be prosecuted.

And my condolences to Botham Jean's family.



Article taken from Heavy.com.
Full article here: https://heavy.com/news/2018/09/amber-guyger/



  • By Jessica McBride
  • Updated Sep 9, 2018 at 9:53am



Amber Guyger, who has been on the Dallas police force for four years and was involved in a previous shooting, was named by the Dallas Police Department as the officer who shot and killed a well-liked Saint Lucian businessman named Botham Shem Jean after authorities say she may have mistakenly gone to Jean’s apartment, thinking it was her own.


“The officer involved in this incident has been identified as Officer Amber Guyger #10702. She has been on the department four years and she is assigned to the Southeast Patrol Division,” Dallas police said in a statement on the evening of September 8, 2018.



Dallas Police Chief Renee Hall previously said that police had enough evidence to seek a warrant for manslaughter, but police revealed on Saturday that the Texas Rangers, who took over the investigation, are still investigating and wanted to wait on any warrant. Online records show that Amber Guyger has long ties to Texas and is 30-years-old.








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Amber Guyger



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The victim, Botham Jean.

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Rest in Peace Bettie Boo. See u soon.
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Reply #1 posted 09/09/18 9:34pm

Ugot2shakesumt
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Boy, you can’t even be chilling out in your own pad without a cop mistakenly killing you wtf?
Crooked Donnie. Lock him up!
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Reply #2 posted 09/10/18 12:49pm

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This story is horrible and so sad. disbelief

"'Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.'' - Thomas Jefferson
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Reply #3 posted 09/10/18 4:11pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:

This story is horrible and so sad. disbelief



Yes it is. And now there's a differing account(from earlier reports that reportedly came from inside sources) of what led up to the homicide of Botham Jean. At first is was reported that Amber had stuck her key in the lock and was trying to open the door, when Botham jerked the door open. Amber then became startled and shot Botham. Now though, their statement is that amber stuck her key in the lock, and because the door was somewhat ajar(or unlocked), she was able to open it. She then walks into a darkened apartment and sees someone who she thinks is a burglar. She gives a command, and shoots(in the fucking dark) when the Botham doesn't respond to her commands.



Me personally, I'm not buying it. It's just too convenient that 1#, Botham just happened to leave his door unlocked, and 2#, that Botham "ignored"(really important) her commands. The victim is dead, so we only have her account of what took place. She's in survival mode, so who knows what truths(or lies) she will tell. Also, there seems to be two different versions of when she realized that she was in the wrong apartment. One version is that she realized it after turning on the inside lights(after shooting Botham). The other version is that she realized it after exiting the apartment and discovering that in fact, she was on the wrong floor. All that is besides that fact that she is a cop who wasn't aware that she was on the wrong floor, and was trying to enter the wrong apartment. How could she be unaware that the apartment she was trying to enter had a bright ass red mat in front of the door? How could she miss that?



Anyway, i feel bad for all parties involved, but i think she's lying about some things.

Here's an update on her statements about what transpired.
https://www.star-telegram...54635.html



"Flowers at the front door of Botham Shem Jean, who Dallas police say was shot Thursday by an off-duty police officer in uniform when she mistakenly thought her apartment was his".


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[Edited 9/10/18 16:15pm]

Rest in Peace Bettie Boo. See u soon.
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Reply #4 posted 09/10/18 7:35pm

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I thought I heard where he was sleeping and she shot him in bed? And didn't she shoot someone else, last year?

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Reply #5 posted 09/10/18 7:45pm

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One report says she was kicking the door yelling to be let in.

If I give her all the benefit of the doubt, it still says what I have forever been saying, that we allow too many unqualified people to run around with a badge and a gun.
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Reply #6 posted 09/11/18 5:31am

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Not buying the "he didn't follow my commands" B.S. That's their go to card. "After all, we all know that black people are too arrogant, proud and disrespectful to police to follow commands from an officer. They always have a chip on their shoulders. So, it's not my fault that he didn't follow my commands like a good boy is supposed to and live."

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This narrative is so tired and weak. BUT, they usually get away with it because of the prejudices and biases in the hearts of those who make decisions. Until police chiefs and other leadership in law enforcement lose their jobs for tolerating such bull, it will only persist.

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Reply #7 posted 09/11/18 7:51am

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Musicslave said:

Not buying the "he didn't follow my commands" B.S. That's their go to card. "After all, we all know that black people are too arrogant, proud and disrespectful to police to follow commands from an officer. They always have a chip on their shoulders. So, it's not my fault that he didn't follow my commands like a good boy is supposed to and live."

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This narrative is so tired and weak. BUT, they usually get away with it because of the prejudices and biases in the hearts of those who make decisions. Until police chiefs and other leadership in law enforcement lose their jobs for tolerating such bull, it will only persist.

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She is charged with manslaughter at the very least...but it coud get upped to murder.

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Reply #8 posted 09/11/18 12:04pm

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JoeyC said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

This story is horrible and so sad. disbelief



Yes it is. And now there's a differing account(from earlier reports that reportedly came from inside sources) of what led up to the homicide of Botham Jean. At first is was reported that Amber had stuck her key in the lock and was trying to open the door, when Botham jerked the door open. Amber then became startled and shot Botham. Now though, their statement is that amber stuck her key in the lock, and because the door was somewhat ajar(or unlocked), she was able to open it. She then walks into a darkened apartment and sees someone who she thinks is a burglar. She gives a command, and shoots(in the fucking dark) when the Botham doesn't respond to her commands.



Me personally, I'm not buying it. It's just too convenient that 1#, Botham just happened to leave his door unlocked, and 2#, that Botham "ignored"(really important) her commands. The victim is dead, so we only have her account of what took place. She's in survival mode, so who knows what truths(or lies) she will tell. Also, there seems to be two different versions of when she realized that she was in the wrong apartment. One version is that she realized it after turning on the inside lights(after shooting Botham). The other version is that she realized it after exiting the apartment and discovering that in fact, she was on the wrong floor. All that is besides that fact that she is a cop who wasn't aware that she was on the wrong floor, and was trying to enter the wrong apartment. How could she be unaware that the apartment she was trying to enter had a bright ass red mat in front of the door? How could she miss that?



Anyway, i feel bad for all parties involved, but i think she's lying about some things.

Here's an update on her statements about what transpired.
https://www.star-telegram...54635.html



"Flowers at the front door of Botham Shem Jean, who Dallas police say was shot Thursday by an off-duty police officer in uniform when she mistakenly thought her apartment was his".

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[Edited 9/10/18 16:15pm]

Now more details are being released on the fatal shooting of 26-year-old Botham Shem Jean. It is clear there are massive discrepancies in what the shooter Amber Guyger claims happened and what neighbors heard. Witnesses are coming forward revealing that they heard Amber actually banging on her victims apartment door, not entering easily, as her statement alleges.

According to News One, Lee Merritt, one of the attorneys for the family, said two independent witnesses alleged they heard knocking on the door in the hallway before the shooting. One of the witnesses said right before the gunshots she heard a a woman’s voice saying, “Let me in, let me in.” This directly contradicts Guyger who at first claimed the door was locked, then said the door was unlocked, and then claimed the door was ajar.

After the gunshots, one of the witnesses said she heard a man’s voice saying, “Oh my God, why did you do that?” Merritt believes that sentence was Jean’s final words.

https://bossip.com/1667229/whos-lying-dallas-cop-who-murdered-botham-jean-was-heard-knocking-yelling-let-me-in-by-witnesses-before-shooting/

eek mad omg shocked disbelief

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Reply #9 posted 09/11/18 12:11pm

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Dreamer by Prince.... prince eye yes crysball

This is part of what Colin Kapernick, Eric Reid have taken a knee in the past and Kenny Stills and Albert Wilson took a knee NFL opening day 9/9/2018!!!

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Reply #10 posted 09/11/18 12:23pm

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"Dreamer"

Eye was born & raised on the same plantation
In the united states of the red, white and blue
Eye never knew that eye was different
Til dr. king was on the balcony
Lying in a bloody pool
Expected so much more from a loving society

A truthful xplanation but you know what?
Eye got another conspiracy

If it was just a dream... call me
Call me a dreamer 2

With more rewards & accolades
Than anyone b4 or after
21st century, oh what a shame
That race still matters
A race 2 what and where we going?
We r in the same boat
But eye'm the only one rowin
Last time eye checked you were sleepin'
...but you can call me a dreamer 2

Peanut butter logic served on a bed of lies
Don't go down 2 easy
When you see ur father cryin'
Have you ever clutched the steering wheel
Of ur car 2 tight?

Prayin' that the police sirens
Pass you by at night?
While the helicopter circles
& the theory's getting deep
Thing they're spraying chemicals over the city
While we sleep?

From now on eye'm staying awake...
So you can call me a dreamer 2
Wake up wake up

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Reply #11 posted 09/11/18 5:27pm

benni

"Oh my god, why did you do that?"

Those are believed to be the final words of Botham Jean, who was fatally shot by a Dallas police officer who says she mistook his apartment for her own.

A Jean family lawyer told the Daily News on Tuesday that statements made by Officer Amber Guyger, who has been charged with manslaughter, are “patently false.”

"We just want to know what happened to Botham," Lee Merritt told The News. "We haven't been given a satisfactory answer to date.”

Guyger said that Jean’s door was unlocked and ajar, but Merritt said that residents in the building heard knocking on his apartment. Someone heard a female's voice saying "let me in, open up," according to Merritt. People in the building heard two shots, and then heard a voice say, "oh my god, why did you do that," according to the lawyer.

Merritt believes that those words were spoken by Jean after he was shot in the chest.

"This is a bizarre series of events that does not make any sense at all," Merritt said.

The lawyer said that Jean would never leave his door open. He also said that Jean "appreciated" that the apartments were similar in nature and that he had a bright red doormat to make his apartment unit stand out.

Guyger told investigators she had just ended a 15-hour shift on Thursday when she returned to her apartment complex. She said she mistakenly parked on the fourth floor, instead of the third, where she lived.

She stated that when she put her key in the door, it opened, according to the affidavit. Still in uniform, she said she saw a figure in the darkness, and believing there was an intruder, she gave verbal commands and then opened fire.

She said she later turned on the lights and called 911.

Benjamin Crump, another lawyer representing the family, said the affidavit "is very self-serving."

"Black people in America have been killed by police in some of the most unbelievable manners," Crump said. Now "we are being killed living while black when we are in our apartments."

Dallas County District Attorney Faith Johnson said the case against Guyger will be presented to a grand jury, which could decide on more serious charges.


"We are committed to making certain that we get to the bottom of (it)," Johnson said.

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Reply #12 posted 09/11/18 5:51pm

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benni said:

"Oh my god, why did you do that?"

Those are believed to be the final words of Botham Jean, who was fatally shot by a Dallas police officer who says she mistook his apartment for her own.

A Jean family lawyer told the Daily News on Tuesday that statements made by Officer Amber Guyger, who has been charged with manslaughter, are “patently false.”

"We just want to know what happened to Botham," Lee Merritt told The News. "We haven't been given a satisfactory answer to date.”

Guyger said that Jean’s door was unlocked and ajar, but Merritt said that residents in the building heard knocking on his apartment. Someone heard a female's voice saying "let me in, open up," according to Merritt. People in the building heard two shots, and then heard a voice say, "oh my god, why did you do that," according to the lawyer.

Merritt believes that those words were spoken by Jean after he was shot in the chest.

"This is a bizarre series of events that does not make any sense at all," Merritt said.

The lawyer said that Jean would never leave his door open. He also said that Jean "appreciated" that the apartments were similar in nature and that he had a bright red doormat to make his apartment unit stand out.

Guyger told investigators she had just ended a 15-hour shift on Thursday when she returned to her apartment complex. She said she mistakenly parked on the fourth floor, instead of the third, where she lived.

She stated that when she put her key in the door, it opened, according to the affidavit. Still in uniform, she said she saw a figure in the darkness, and believing there was an intruder, she gave verbal commands and then opened fire.

She said she later turned on the lights and called 911.

Benjamin Crump, another lawyer representing the family, said the affidavit "is very self-serving."

"Black people in America have been killed by police in some of the most unbelievable manners," Crump said. Now "we are being killed living while black when we are in our apartments."

Dallas County District Attorney Faith Johnson said the case against Guyger will be presented to a grand jury, which could decide on more serious charges.


"We are committed to making certain that we get to the bottom of (it)," Johnson said.

She said the guys door was unlocked and ajar, but then later in the story she said that she put her key in the door and that it opened..

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Reply #13 posted 09/11/18 8:11pm

benni

PennyPurple said:

benni said:

"Oh my god, why did you do that?"

Those are believed to be the final words of Botham Jean, who was fatally shot by a Dallas police officer who says she mistook his apartment for her own.

A Jean family lawyer told the Daily News on Tuesday that statements made by Officer Amber Guyger, who has been charged with manslaughter, are “patently false.”

"We just want to know what happened to Botham," Lee Merritt told The News. "We haven't been given a satisfactory answer to date.”

Guyger said that Jean’s door was unlocked and ajar, but Merritt said that residents in the building heard knocking on his apartment. Someone heard a female's voice saying "let me in, open up," according to Merritt. People in the building heard two shots, and then heard a voice say, "oh my god, why did you do that," according to the lawyer.

Merritt believes that those words were spoken by Jean after he was shot in the chest.

"This is a bizarre series of events that does not make any sense at all," Merritt said.

The lawyer said that Jean would never leave his door open. He also said that Jean "appreciated" that the apartments were similar in nature and that he had a bright red doormat to make his apartment unit stand out.

Guyger told investigators she had just ended a 15-hour shift on Thursday when she returned to her apartment complex. She said she mistakenly parked on the fourth floor, instead of the third, where she lived.

She stated that when she put her key in the door, it opened, according to the affidavit. Still in uniform, she said she saw a figure in the darkness, and believing there was an intruder, she gave verbal commands and then opened fire.

She said she later turned on the lights and called 911.

Benjamin Crump, another lawyer representing the family, said the affidavit "is very self-serving."

"Black people in America have been killed by police in some of the most unbelievable manners," Crump said. Now "we are being killed living while black when we are in our apartments."

Dallas County District Attorney Faith Johnson said the case against Guyger will be presented to a grand jury, which could decide on more serious charges.


"We are committed to making certain that we get to the bottom of (it)," Johnson said.

She said the guys door was unlocked and ajar, but then later in the story she said that she put her key in the door and that it opened..


Yes. And then the neighbors were stating that they heard knocking and a woman's voice saying "Let me in. Open up." Then they heard two shots and heard a man's voice say, "Oh my God, why did you do that?" I think I trust the neighbors accounts of what they heard and cannot trust what she said.

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benni said:

PennyPurple said:

She said the guys door was unlocked and ajar, but then later in the story she said that she put her key in the door and that it opened..


Yes. And then the neighbors were stating that they heard knocking and a woman's voice saying "Let me in. Open up." Then they heard two shots and heard a man's voice say, "Oh my God, why did you do that?" I think I trust the neighbors accounts of what they heard and cannot trust what she said.


Saying she worked a 14 hour shift is like the twinkie defense, IMO

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Reply #15 posted 09/12/18 3:44am

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Unless they can prove they had a relationship which is possible or they had a feud basically is she had an "intention" to kill then it would be murder but if she didn't intend to kill and it was a complete accident then have manslaughter. I hope they get it right but sometimes they overcharge in these high profile cases that media picks up on. It sounds like it may be murder, they could have been lovers/friends or whatever and it went wrong or who knows could have been over something stupid as loud music both cases murder. If she walked in the wrong home with no intention to kill probably manslaughter and reckless at that.

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Reply #16 posted 09/13/18 5:15am

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jilted love=
crime of passion. no more no less.
federal judge says, "there is evidence." : https://www.yahoo.com/new...itics.html
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They Are Showing His Funeral Live:

http://www.keranews.org/post/watch-todays-funeral-botham-jean

dove rainbo dove angel dove

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Reply #18 posted 09/13/18 11:33am

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Astasheiks said:

They Are Showing His Funeral Live:



: http://www.keranews.org/p...otham-jean


dove rainbo dove angel dove


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such a tragedy. the officer has supposedly been drug tested as she should be.
thank you for the live funeral stream Astasheiks

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my condolences to friends and family of Mr. Bonham Jean.
also may he rest in peace and be justly vindicated.
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federal judge says, "there is evidence." : https://www.yahoo.com/new...itics.html
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Amen Freeda

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Reply #20 posted 09/17/18 3:04pm

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If he had a gun, he would have been justified blowing that fucking bitch away.

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She got fired, and then she got charged with manslaughter today.

Alleged senator Rafael Cruz tried to paint Beto O'Rourke in a bad light in this for saying the officer should be fired, and now the officer has been fired. Cruz looks like an idiot today.

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Reply #22 posted 09/24/18 4:22pm

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

Boy, you can’t even be chilling out in your own pad without a cop mistakenly killing you wtf?

fuck, i'm going to hell, i laughed at that shit.

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Reply #23 posted 09/28/18 11:11am

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JoeyC said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

This story is horrible and so sad. disbelief



Yes it is. And now there's a differing account(from earlier reports that reportedly came from inside sources) of what led up to the homicide of Botham Jean. At first is was reported that Amber had stuck her key in the lock and was trying to open the door, when Botham jerked the door open. Amber then became startled and shot Botham. Now though, their statement is that amber stuck her key in the lock, and because the door was somewhat ajar(or unlocked), she was able to open it. She then walks into a darkened apartment and sees someone who she thinks is a burglar. She gives a command, and shoots(in the fucking dark) when the Botham doesn't respond to her commands.



Me personally, I'm not buying it. It's just too convenient that 1#, Botham just happened to leave his door unlocked, and 2#, that Botham "ignored"(really important) her commands. The victim is dead, so we only have her account of what took place. She's in survival mode, so who knows what truths(or lies) she will tell. Also, there seems to be two different versions of when she realized that she was in the wrong apartment. One version is that she realized it after turning on the inside lights(after shooting Botham). The other version is that she realized it after exiting the apartment and discovering that in fact, she was on the wrong floor. All that is besides that fact that she is a cop who wasn't aware that she was on the wrong floor, and was trying to enter the wrong apartment. How could she be unaware that the apartment she was trying to enter had a bright ass red mat in front of the door? How could she miss that?



Anyway, i feel bad for all parties involved, but i think she's lying about some things.

Here's an update on her statements about what transpired.
https://www.star-telegram...54635.html



"Flowers at the front door of Botham Shem Jean, who Dallas police say was shot Thursday by an off-duty police officer in uniform when she mistakenly thought her apartment was his".

1536424933-IMG_4469-(1).jpg?q=30&w=200&fit=clip&auto=format&frame=1

[Edited 9/10/18 16:15pm]

Even if I was stoned cold drunk, I would be like where is my red mat!!!!

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Also she thoght she could erase her past deleting her social media accounts but Pinterest busted her arse she couldn't get rid of it!!!

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