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Reply #30 posted 08/08/18 3:04pm

poppys

LadyLayla said:

poppys said:

Colbert Mocks Paul Manafort's Wardrobe: It Looks Like 'A Blind Pimp Got 100 Wishes'

Colbert Mocks Paul Manafort's Wardrobe: It Looks Like 'A Blind Pimp Got 100 Wishes'

One of the items mentioned: An ostrich-leather jacket that cost $15,000. Stephen Colbert took a look at Manafort’s wardrobe on “T…

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Now that his closet has been raided and photos published, I think it is time for him to be arrested by the Fashion Police!!!

No kidding Miss Layla!

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Reply #31 posted 08/09/18 5:23am

Musicslave

poppys said:

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Looks like they're finally done with Rick Gates. Below is from earlier today....

4 hr 43 min ago

Why Gates was asked about his "secret life"

From CNN's Katelyn Polantz

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Following Manfort’s defense attorney’s question to Rick Gates on whether he had disclosed four extramarital affairs to the special counsel — a question to which prosecutor Greg Andres objected — Judge T.S. Ellis then had a private conversation, out of earshot of the jury, with both sets of lawyers about whether Downing could ask about other extramarital affairs.

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What Manafort's attorney said: Manafort’s attorney Kevin Downing had said he wanted to ask the question because it spoke to whether Gates had lied to the special counsel's office, and whether Gates' plea agreement would still be valid.

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Once the judge talked to the lawyers, however, Downing wasn't able to re-ask Gates the question about four extramarital affairs.

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Instead, he asked Gates more broadly: "Does your secret life span over many years?"

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Gates responded yes. "I made many mistakes over many years," he said.

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His three days on the witness stand then ended.


Whoa. The judge in that case is known for being real speedy and maybe not very sympathetic to the Mueller investigation, right?

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/judge-ellis-behavior-in-manafort-trial-risks-helping-the-defense-1294431811703

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Judge Ellis behavior in Manafort trial risks helping the defense

Barbara McQuade, former U.S. attorney, explains how Judge T.S. Ellis's behavior in the trial of Donald Trump's former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, could damage the jury for the prosecution.


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Yeah, he doesn't have the best reputation. Not for being partisan but for just being a control freak in his courtroom and making sure he throws his weight around. I've read some of the transcripts and him and the prosecutors have been bucking heads unfortunately. There's been a few incidents with the defense but most with the prosecutors.

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Maybe he can't wait to get this trial over with so he can go wear his MAGA hat in peace. lol

Seriously though. Thankfully, this case will be based on documents and not personality.

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And why is Judge Ellis so adamant about rushing this case through. Most of his interruptions are because he's rushing the attorneys along. I don't see the rush.

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Reply #32 posted 08/09/18 6:14am

poppys

Musicslave said:

poppys said:


Whoa. The judge in that case is known for being real speedy and maybe not very sympathetic to the Mueller investigation, right?

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/judge-ellis-behavior-in-manafort-trial-risks-helping-the-defense-1294431811703

MSNBC

Judge Ellis behavior in Manafort trial risks helping the defense

Barbara McQuade, former U.S. attorney, explains how Judge T.S. Ellis's behavior in the trial of Donald Trump's former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, could damage the jury for the prosecution.


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Yeah, he doesn't have the best reputation. Not for being partisan but for just being a control freak in his courtroom and making sure he throws his weight around. I've read some of the transcripts and him and the prosecutors have been bucking heads unfortunately. There's been a few incidents with the defense but most with the prosecutors.

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Maybe he can't wait to get this trial over with so he can go wear his MAGA hat in peace. lol

Seriously though. Thankfully, this case will be based on documents and not personality.

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And why is Judge Ellis so adamant about rushing this case through. Most of his interruptions are because he's rushing the attorneys along. I don't see the rush.



Exactly. Control freak is one thing. Controlling or altering the outcome via what gets in (or thrown out) is another thing entirely and very suspect. A biased judge at best, a dirty one at worst. Greaaaat. The Trump admin is probably all up in that as an influencer. Or how he got the case in the first place.

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Reply #33 posted 08/09/18 6:22am

Musicslave

poppys said:

Musicslave said:

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Yeah, he doesn't have the best reputation. Not for being partisan but for just being a control freak in his courtroom and making sure he throws his weight around. I've read some of the transcripts and him and the prosecutors have been bucking heads unfortunately. There's been a few incidents with the defense but most with the prosecutors.

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Maybe he can't wait to get this trial over with so he can go wear his MAGA hat in peace. lol

Seriously though. Thankfully, this case will be based on documents and not personality.

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And why is Judge Ellis so adamant about rushing this case through. Most of his interruptions are because he's rushing the attorneys along. I don't see the rush.



Exactly. Control freak is one thing. Controlling or altering the outcome via what gets in (or thrown out) is another thing entirely and very suspect. A biased judge at best, a dirty one at worst. Greaaaat. The Trump admin is probably all up in that as an influencer. Or how he got the case in the first place.

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Hopefully his antics won't affect the jury's common sense and judgment.

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Reply #34 posted 08/09/18 9:25am

Musicslave

10:01 a.m.: Judge Ellis begins court with mea culpa for outburst over expert

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U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis III has raked prosecutors from the special counsel’s office over the coals for the past week and a half. But on Thursday, he backed down, telling jurors to ignore one piece of criticism.

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“I was critical of counsel for … allowing an expert to remain in the courtroom,” he said before testimony began. “You may put that aside… I may well have been wrong.”

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On Wednesday, Ellis scolded prosecutors for calling an IRS expert who has sat through the trial in the gallery. Prosecutors filed a motion Thursday morning pointing out that the transcript backed up their understanding that Ellis had explicitly allowed the expert to do so.

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“The Court’s sharp reprimand of government counsel in front of the jury on August 8 was therefore erroneous,” the prosecutors wrote. “And, while mistakes are a natural part of the trial process, the mistake here prejudiced the government by conveying to the jury that the government had acted improperly and had violated court rules or procedures. The exchange could very well lead the jury to reach two erroneous inferences: (a) that Mr. Welch’s testimony is not credible because he was improperly privy to the testimony of other witnesses, and (b) that the government sought to secure an unfair advantage by secreting its expert in the courtroom without permission…This prejudice should be cured.”

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Ellis said Thursday that he had not actually read the transcript, which was attached to the government motion.

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But, the judge said, “I was probably wrong.”

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He added that he makes mistakes, “like any human — and this robe doesn’t make me any more than a human.”

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He concluded, “Any criticism of counsel should be put aside — it doesn’t have anything to do with this case.”

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Sidenote: Somebody needs to tell dude to calm the *uck down. lol

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He'll still get that check from The Trump Organization. No worries. Just playin wink

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Reply #35 posted 08/09/18 9:32am

poppys


omg Have Mercy on the Court. lol

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Reply #36 posted 08/09/18 9:48pm

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Musicslave said:

poppys said:


Exactly. Control freak is one thing. Controlling or altering the outcome via what gets in (or thrown out) is another thing entirely and very suspect. A biased judge at best, a dirty one at worst. Greaaaat. The Trump admin is probably all up in that as an influencer. Or how he got the case in the first place.

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Hopefully his antics won't affect the jury's common sense and judgment.


They will instructed to weigh the evidence and from what I understand there is piles of it.

"'Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.'' - Thomas Jefferson
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Reply #37 posted 08/10/18 8:19am

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Omarosa, Trump used N word. boom. Candace Owens dropped her brie.

"My motherfucker's so cool sheep count him."
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Reply #38 posted 08/10/18 10:15am

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More drama today with the Judge. That Judge is going to ruin this case.

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Reply #39 posted 08/10/18 10:22am

poppys

PennyPurple said:

More drama today with the Judge. That Judge is going to ruin this case.


Agree. Likely he was put there to ruin this case.


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Reply #40 posted 08/10/18 11:32am

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Sounds like a juror may have talked about the case and stated that Manafort was guilty.


7 min ago

Judge and prosecutors still not back in the courtroom

From CNN's Katelyn Polantz and Daniella Diaz

Thirty minutes after court was supposed to reconvene, Judge T.S. Ellis, prosecutors and many defense lawyers have still not returned to the courtroom.

Paul Manafort and two of his defense lawyers are still waiting the proceedings at the counsel's table.

22 min ago

The court is on break, and we're still not sure what those secretive meetings were about

From CNN's Katelyn Polantz

The mystery of the morning has not been solved, and the court is now on break until 1:45 p.m. ET.

Lawyers from both sides huddled with Judge T.S. Ellis twice this morning. After almost an hour of waiting, lawyers from both sides Ellis returned to the courtroom at 11:07 a.m.

Ellis brought the 16 jurors in, stressed to them the importance of not discussing the case and told them to "keep an open mind." He also said the court plans to "continue with evidence" presentations in the afternoon today and that he would "expect to make progress."

Ellis then said the court would take an open lunch and reconvene at 1:45 p.m. ET. He gave no further detail about the morning's delay.

What this means for timing: It now seems quite unlikely that the prosecutors will finish presenting their case Friday, as they had previously said they would.

4 hr 12 min ago

Lawyers and the judge had two secretive meetings this morning

From CNN's Katelyn Polantz and Daniella Diaz

Friday morning has had a strange, secretive beginning.

Lawyers from both sides have huddled with Judge T.S. Ellis twice with the white noise machine obscuring their conversations.

The jury has not been called yet. Meanwhile, Manafort has been all smiles, and also spent several minutes in whispered conversation with his lawyers.

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Reply #41 posted 08/10/18 11:38am

poppys

^^ Greaaat. That sucks.

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Reply #42 posted 08/10/18 12:42pm

Musicslave

1 hr 7 min ago

Manafort trial resumes — with no explanation for delay

From CNN's Katelyn Polantz

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Judge T.S. Ellis returned to the courtroom at 2:22 p.m.

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After conferring with an attorney for the prosecutors and an attorney for the defense briefly, Ellis said:

"Mr. Andres, you may call your next witness."
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That's when Andres reminded him the jury still needed to be brought in.

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The courtroom erupted in laughter.

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And about those secretive morning meetings? There's has been no word whatsoever about the reason for the almost all-day delay.

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What is the deal with this Judge? What's the freakin rush?!

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Reply #43 posted 08/10/18 1:08pm

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Musicslave said:

1 hr 7 min ago


Manafort trial resumes — with no explanation for delay


From CNN's Katelyn Polantz


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Judge T.S. Ellis returned to the courtroom at 2:22 p.m.


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After conferring with an attorney for the prosecutors and an attorney for the defense briefly, Ellis said:



"Mr. Andres, you may call your next witness."

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That's when Andres reminded him the jury still needed to be brought in.


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The courtroom erupted in laughter.


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And about those secretive morning meetings? There's has been no word whatsoever about the reason for the almost all-day delay.



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What is the deal with this Judge? What's the freakin rush?!



He’s way too old! He’s 78 years old!
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CROOKED TRUMP. LOCK HIM UP!
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Reply #44 posted 08/10/18 1:13pm

poppys

Musicslave said:

1 hr 7 min ago

Manafort trial resumes — with no explanation for delay

From CNN's Katelyn Polantz

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Judge T.S. Ellis returned to the courtroom at 2:22 p.m.

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After conferring with an attorney for the prosecutors and an attorney for the defense briefly, Ellis said:

"Mr. Andres, you may call your next witness."
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That's when Andres reminded him the jury still needed to be brought in.

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The courtroom erupted in laughter.

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And about those secretive morning meetings? There's has been no word whatsoever about the reason for the almost all-day delay.

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What is the deal with this Judge? What's the freakin rush?!


This better not be a fucking mistrial.

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Reply #45 posted 08/10/18 1:35pm

Musicslave

poppys said:

Musicslave said:

1 hr 7 min ago

Manafort trial resumes — with no explanation for delay

From CNN's Katelyn Polantz

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Judge T.S. Ellis returned to the courtroom at 2:22 p.m.

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After conferring with an attorney for the prosecutors and an attorney for the defense briefly, Ellis said:

"Mr. Andres, you may call your next witness."
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That's when Andres reminded him the jury still needed to be brought in.

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The courtroom erupted in laughter.

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And about those secretive morning meetings? There's has been no word whatsoever about the reason for the almost all-day delay.

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What is the deal with this Judge? What's the freakin rush?!


This better not be a fucking mistrial.

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Especially considering all of the evidence they've presented.

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Reply #46 posted 08/10/18 1:51pm

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Musicslave said:

poppys said:


This better not be a fucking mistrial.

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Especially considering all of the evidence they've presented.



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Reply #47 posted 08/10/18 2:07pm

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poppys said:

Musicslave said:

1 hr 7 min ago

Manafort trial resumes — with no explanation for delay

From CNN's Katelyn Polantz

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Judge T.S. Ellis returned to the courtroom at 2:22 p.m.

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After conferring with an attorney for the prosecutors and an attorney for the defense briefly, Ellis said:

"Mr. Andres, you may call your next witness."
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That's when Andres reminded him the jury still needed to be brought in.

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The courtroom erupted in laughter.

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And about those secretive morning meetings? There's has been no word whatsoever about the reason for the almost all-day delay.

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What is the deal with this Judge? What's the freakin rush?!


This better not be a fucking mistrial.



That's where I am afraid this trial is heading to. Just the fact that Manafort was sitting there smiling while all of this was going on... It does not bode well for this trial.

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Reply #48 posted 08/10/18 2:19pm

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I would like to slap that sly smile off of his face.

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Reply #49 posted 08/10/18 9:48pm

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I would like to slap that sly smile off of his face.


with a vote of guilty.

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Reply #50 posted 08/10/18 10:44pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:

PennyPurple said:

I would like to slap that sly smile off of his face.


with a vote of guilty.

Of course. lol



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Reply #51 posted 08/14/18 6:52am

poppys

Prosecution rests. Now on to the Defense.

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Reply #52 posted 08/14/18 9:07am

Musicslave

Paul Manafort trial Day 11: Defense rests, Manafort will not take the stand

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12:02 p.m.: Manafort defense rests, he will not testify

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Lawyers for Paul Manafort say they’ll rest their case without calling any witnesses in the former Trump campaign chairman’s trial

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The decision in the bank- and tax-fraud case comes after Judge T.S. Ellis III denied a defense motion to acquit Manafort as his lawyers argued the special counsel had failed to prove its case at the federal trial in Virginia. Such motions are routinely filed and almost never granted.

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After several hours of sealed discussions, open court began at about 11:45 a.m. with no explanation for the delay.

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Reply #53 posted 08/14/18 10:06am

poppys

Musicslave said:

Paul Manafort trial Day 11: Defense rests, Manafort will not take the stand

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12:02 p.m.: Manafort defense rests, he will not testify

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Lawyers for Paul Manafort say they’ll rest their case without calling any witnesses in the former Trump campaign chairman’s trial

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The decision in the bank- and tax-fraud case comes after Judge T.S. Ellis III denied a defense motion to acquit Manafort as his lawyers argued the special counsel had failed to prove its case at the federal trial in Virginia. Such motions are routinely filed and almost never granted.

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After several hours of sealed discussions, open court began at about 11:45 a.m. with no explanation for the delay.

Mums the word, huh? Well at least Mr. Judgy didn't aquit him outright. Guess that was too obvious and he hopes all the wrenches he threw in the works did the job.



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Reply #54 posted 08/14/18 10:12am

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Why would they rest without calling anybody to the stand?

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Reply #55 posted 08/14/18 10:21am

Musicslave

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Why would they rest without calling anybody to the stand?

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Because they didn't have much of a case? Kind of hard to deny literal paper receipts, emails and documents. And then to have someone like a Rick Gates to tie all of the loose strings together by corroborating everything didn't help the defense either.

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There's still closing arguments left I think. They'll probably try a hail mary in their closing. Good luck. wink

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Reply #56 posted 08/14/18 11:31am

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PennyPurple said:

Why would they rest without calling anybody to the stand?


Their main defense was to try and discredit the witnesses - which they tried with Gates - however, the paper evidence is irrefutable.

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Reply #57 posted 08/15/18 6:14am

Musicslave

We might (should) get a verdict from the jury today. I don't see the need for a long drawn out deliberation. His apparent guilt is in black and white. Both sides have around two hours each for closing arguments. Prosecutors usually have the option for final rebuttal.

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Reply #58 posted 08/15/18 6:37am

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Musicslave said:

We might (should) get a verdict from the jury today. I don't see the need for a long drawn out deliberation. His apparent guilt is in black and white. Both sides have around two hours each for closing arguments. Prosecutors usually have the option for final rebuttal.

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Yeah - the defense is doling out "the government did not achieve burden of proof" ---- really? A jury presented with piles of hardcore evidence is supposed to buy that? I bet they use their closing discrediting Gates the "star witness"

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Reply #59 posted 08/15/18 6:55am

Musicslave

DiminutiveRocker said:

Musicslave said:

We might (should) get a verdict from the jury today. I don't see the need for a long drawn out deliberation. His apparent guilt is in black and white. Both sides have around two hours each for closing arguments. Prosecutors usually have the option for final rebuttal.

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Yeah - the defense is doling out "the government did not achieve burden of proof" ---- really? A jury presented with piles of hardcore evidence is supposed to buy that? I bet they use their closing discrediting Gates the "star witness"

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Yep. A star witness who just so happened to tie up all the loose strings the prosecutors purposely hanged. lol

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