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Oldest Homo sapiens bones ever found

I've held onto this one for a while, just trying to read through it and pull up images of the landscapes to get a good picture of the horizon described in the article.

https://www.theguardian.c...uman-story

Oldest Homo sapiens bones ever found shake foundations of the human story

Idea that modern humans evolved in East Africa 200,000 years ago challenged by extraordinary discovery of 300,000-year-old remains in Moroccan mine

Fossils recovered from an old mine on a desolate mountain in Morocco have rocked one of the most enduring foundations of the human story: that Homo sapiens arose in a cradle of humankind in East Africa 200,000 years ago.

Archaeologists unearthed the bones of at least five people at Jebel Irhoud, a former barite mine 100km west of Marrakesh, in excavations that lasted years. They knew the remains were old, but were stunned when dating tests revealed that a tooth and stone tools found with the bones were about 300,000 years old.

“My reaction was a big ‘wow’,” said Jean-Jacques Hublin, a senior scientist on the team at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig. “I was expecting them to be old, but not that old.”

Hublin said the extreme age of the bones makes them the oldest known specimens of modern humans and poses a major challenge to the idea that the earliest members of our species evolved in a “Garden of Eden” in East Africa one hundred thousand years later.

“This gives us a completely different picture of the evolution of our species. It goes much further back in time, but also the very process of evolution is different to what we thought,” Hublin told the Guardian. “It looks like our species was already present probably all over Africa by 300,000 years ago. If there was a Garden of Eden, it might have been the size of the continent.”

Jebel Irhoud has thrown u...scientists since fossilised bones were first found at the site in the 1960s. Remains found in 1961 and 1962, and stone tools recovered with them, were attributed to Neanderthals and at first considered to be only 40,000 years old. At the time, a popular view held that modern humans evolved from Neanderthals. Today, the Neanderthals are considered a sister group that lived alongside, and even bred with, our moder... ancestors.

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Reply #1 posted 02/13/18 9:35am

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I think that someday they will find out that most everything they think was the case was very wrong.

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Reply #2 posted 02/13/18 9:48am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

I think that someday they will find out that most everything they think was the case was very wrong.


And your theory is?
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Reply #3 posted 02/13/18 9:54am

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ThatWhiteDude said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

I think that someday they will find out that most everything they think was the case was very wrong.

And your theory is?

that what we think we know is wrong... i have no theory as to what it is... and what I said is not much of a prediction. what i said was we have more to learn than what we know.

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Reply #4 posted 02/13/18 10:30am

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Only, no.

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Reply #5 posted 02/13/18 10:42am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Only, no.

so you are neither open-minded nor curious? I mean do you really believe we know more about the how life came to be than we do not know?

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Reply #6 posted 02/13/18 10:49am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

I think that someday they will find out that most everything they think was the case was very wrong.




that process has already begun...but most of humanity has overslept
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Reply #7 posted 02/13/18 10:52am

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Now see this is where people start getting confused. Tons of info but it's hard to keep the context and timelines straight.

I've read this in Scientific America, it's an old article back in 2012, but they put it again in recent magazine.



  • At some point between 195,000 and 123,000 years ago, the population size of Homo sapiens plummeted, thanks to cold, dry climate conditions that left much of our ancestors' African homeland uninhabitable.
  • Everyone alive today is descended from a group of people from a single region who survived this catastrophe. The southern coast of Africa would have been one of the few spots where humans could survive during this climate crisis because it harbors an abundance of shellfish and edible plants.
  • Excavations of a series of sites in this region have recovered items left behind by what may have been that progenitor population.
  • The discoveries confirm the idea that advanced cognitive abilities evolved earlier than previously thought—and may have played a key role in the survival of the species during tough times.



https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/when-the-sea-saved-humanity-2012-12-07/

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Reply #8 posted 02/13/18 3:35pm

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Silly.

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Reply #9 posted 02/13/18 5:09pm

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morningsong said:




Now see this is where people start getting confused. Tons of info but it's hard to keep the context and timelines straight.

I've read this in Scientific America, it's an old article back in 2012, but they put it again in recent magazine.



  • At some point between 195,000 and 123,000 years ago, the population size of Homo sapiens plummeted, thanks to cold, dry climate conditions that left much of our ancestors' African homeland uninhabitable.
  • Everyone alive today is descended from a group of people from a single region who survived this catastrophe. The southern coast of Africa would have been one of the few spots where humans could survive during this climate crisis because it harbors an abundance of shellfish and edible plants.
  • Excavations of a series of sites in this region have recovered items left behind by what may have been that progenitor population.
  • The discoveries confirm the idea that advanced cognitive abilities evolved earlier than previously thought—and may have played a key role in the survival of the species during tough times.



https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/when-the-sea-saved-humanity-2012-12-07/

interesting

thanks for the link

a must read

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Reply #10 posted 02/13/18 5:34pm

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What a nightmare 4 creationists tis must be. All those ,000... oh boy.

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Reply #11 posted 02/13/18 5:37pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

I think that someday they will find out that most everything they think was the case was very wrong.

Generally looking, history of science is one big history of misapprehension...

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Reply #12 posted 02/13/18 6:38pm

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stpaisios said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

I think that someday they will find out that most everything they think was the case was very wrong.

Generally looking, history of science is one big history of misapprehension...

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... where these misunderstandings are mostly replaced by better and more complete understandings

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