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midnightmover

British orgers: Check out Panorama on Monday evening

Now that Britain has - along with America and Saudi Arabia - lost the Syrian proxy war, the BBC - who served as propagandists for the war for 6 years - are starting to relax a little and come clean about the true nature of the war. On Monday evening they're showing an episode of Panorama entitled Jihadis You Pay For. The program uses leaked documents to show how British taxpayer money was sent to Syria, ostensibly to provide aid, but really to finance the jihadists who were fighting President Assad.

This marks a major moment for the BBC who, along with the rest of the media, misled the public into thinking the rebels were the good guys in Syria and that we were acting benevolently there. Now they are admitting what some of us on here were saying all along. We were the bad guys there. Once again we were actively supporting Islamic terrorists and trying to turn a functioning state (however imperfect) into a failed state, just as we did in Libya.


Russia was on the right side of this conflict. We were wrong. Now it looks like Russia has come out on top and that is a good thing for Syria.

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Reply #1 posted 12/02/17 2:11am

NorthC

There is no right or wrong in this war.
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Reply #2 posted 12/02/17 2:20am

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NorthC said:

There is no right or wrong in this war.

Yes there is. We had no business trying to overthrow yet another secular government in the Middle East, particularly when we have to back jihadists in order to do it.

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Reply #3 posted 12/02/17 4:52am

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You seem to have this strange admiration for autocratic leaders who fire at their own people. confused
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Reply #4 posted 12/02/17 5:26am

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NorthC said:

You seem to have this strange admiration for autocratic leaders who fire at their own people. confused

You seem to have a blind loyalty to the establishment that leads you to totally swallow their propaganda. Even now that the BBC is coming out and confirming what I've been saying on here for years you still can't let go of this distorted version of reality that they sold you.

Most of the jihadists we were supporting were not Syrian! And most Syrians did not support the jihadi maniacs. Even the ones that hate Assad didn't hate him as much as they hated the religiously motivated maniacs that he was fighting. That's why Assad survived the assault from the five outside countries (US, UK, SA, Qatar and Turkey). He survived because there were millions of Syrians who preferred him to the alternative. That's what the establishment never told you.

Now you should stop worrying about other peoples' governments and start looking in the mirror. The government that you supported spent hundreds of millions (probably more) promoting jihadists in Syria and the whole media lied to you about it. That's where your anger should go. Look into the White Helmets; a jihadi gang who were created in 2013 by the British and other regime change maniacs to pose as humanitarians. They were lionized and treated as angels by Western media. This should bother you. But of course you don't want to face the evil Over Here. You want to believe that it's all Over There. That is a much more cozy belief.

[Edited 12/3/17 1:51am]

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Reply #5 posted 12/02/17 6:05am

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It all started during the Arabian Spring in 2011 with people protesting against the Assad regime and he didn't want to end like Mubarak and Ben Ali, so he let the army open fire and things escalated from there. Jihadis were not involved yet, they took over when the war was already raging. And yes, of course, of you have to choose between Assad and IS, you'll choose the first, but only because he's the lesser of two evils. Syria has been a dictatorship since Assad sr.
And yes, I know, western powers have played a dirty role in both the Middle East and Latin America, but that's no excuse for the crimes these dictators commit.
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Reply #6 posted 12/02/17 6:20am

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NorthC said:

It all started during the Arabian Spring in 2011 with people protesting against the Assad regime and he didn't want to end like Mubarak and Ben Ali, so he let the army open fire and things escalated from there. Jihadis were not involved yet, they took over when the war was already raging. And yes, of course, of you have to choose between Assad and IS, you'll choose the first, but only because he's the lesser of two evils. Syria has been a dictatorship since Assad sr. And yes, I know, western powers have played a dirty role in both the Middle East and Latin America, but that's no excuse for the crimes these dictators commit. [Edited 12/2/17 6:07am]

The jihadist elements in Syria were there from at least the middle of 2011. And you need to wake up and realize that ISIS were not the only jihadists there. They were only the most successful. There were jihadists of all different flavours who came in from all around the world, many of them sent deliberately by the governments of other countries. David Cameron spent two years encouraging British Muslims to go out and overthrow the Syrian government, even though he knew all along that that was a jihadist cause.


Those of you who support these regime change wars have a lot of blood on your hands. You are wilfully and DELIBERATELY promoting terrorism. Fact is you guys should shut your mouth everytime the subject of terrorism comes up since you bare huge responsibility for spreading it.

Britain and America NEVER fight wars for humanitarian reasons. That is a PREPOSTEROUS suggestion. Some of our best friends are dictators and war criminals. Right now we are selling arms to Saudi Arabia who are murdering tens of thousands of innocent people in Yemen. When the Arab Spring kicked off Saudi Arabia and Dubai repressed it violently. Did you hear any complaints about that? Of course not. They are our friends.

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Reply #7 posted 12/02/17 6:37am

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Here's a recent interview with an independent reporter who's been telling the truth about this Syrian war all along. She has consistently debunked the lies told by mainstream media and politicians. If only there were more like her. I don't think anyone could watch this full interview, filled with extensive detail, and not be disgusted with the brazen immorality of our media and the head-chopping terrorists they support.

[Edited 12/2/17 6:49am]

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Reply #8 posted 12/02/17 7:10am

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Look here. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying your view is a little black and white: you point out the wrongdoings of one side (the west/jihadis) while ignoring the wrongdoings of the other side (Assad .)
That's what I wanted to say and I said it; no need to repeat myself.
So finally, what time is this documentary? BBC 1 or 2?
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Reply #9 posted 12/02/17 7:17am

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NorthC said:

Look here. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying your view is a little black and white: you point out the wrongdoings of one side (the west/jihadis) while ignoring the wrongdoings of the other side (Assad .) That's what I wanted to say and I said it; no need to repeat myself. So finally, what time is this documentary? BBC 1 or 2?

BBC 1. 7.30 pm.

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Reply #10 posted 12/02/17 7:21am

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Thanks.
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Reply #11 posted 12/02/17 8:37am

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Isn't that on Al Jazeera?

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Reply #12 posted 12/02/17 8:51am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Isn't that on Al Jazeera?

Al Jazeera? The Qatar network? Hardly. They were backing the terrorists.

No, Panorama is a long-running BBC current affairs series. It's like our equivalent of 60 Minutes.

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Backing the what? That's neo con bullshit.

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Reply #14 posted 12/02/17 9:56am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Backing the what? That's neo con bullshit.

Qatar were backing the terrorists in Syria.

They weren't alone. America, Britain, Saudi Arabia and Turkey were doing the same.

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