Paranoid idiots all over the place, you mean.

Update your JFK goofy.

2freaky4church1 said:

Update your JFK goofy.

do you mean the worthless stuff they released? so far as far as the actual good digging goes there is NOTHING. Some embarrassing stuff for some but no bombshells for the actual assassination. (which is what I said)

300 pages being kept away because of national security?? What the hell does old docs have to do with todays security??

2freaky4church1 said:

300 pages being kept away because of national security?? What the hell does old docs have to do with todays security??

Yeah, who knows... but like I said it is not going to shed any light or offer any new important info on the event.

U ever read declassified docs?

^ Yes

If you understand the reason for previous classification, it makes sense. If you don't, you fill the vaccuum with your own predelictions.

2freaky4church1 said:

300 pages being kept away because of national security?? What the hell does old docs have to do with todays security??

Translation: 300 pages kept away because u will discover that Oswald was a CIA agent and a patsy......and that JFK was killed by your own Gov't.

^

Preach.

You mean like Pearl Harbor?

No offense, but you will never top the Pearl Harbor thread.

Well, this is the usual Graycap-posts-a-video-with-no-analysis-comment-or-interpretation clusterf**k, which we all know is against the forum rules. But his stuff is always so laughable that no one reports it; I guess we like the humor and ridiculousness.

Since Graycap didn't watch his 30-minute video, neither am I. I don't have 3 minutes to waste on piffle, much less 30 minutes. Usually though, I'll peruse the comments because that's where you find the extra-special brand of crazy. But comments are disabled for this video, so that ought to tell you just how far out on the fringe the guy in this video is.

And just in case it doesn't, well maybe his own description of his video will make you chuckle/cringe:

"Was the Las Vegas shooting a false flag? Ex-CIA Clandestine Services Officer Robert David Steele says "yes." He hypothesizes that a US government drill (non-lethal) was hijacked by an Israel-linked element of organized crime and turned into a real mass shooting. The purpose: (1) Ramp up the post-9/11 police state, and push through more mass surveillance and gun control; (2) Punish Trump for backing off the war on Syria; (3) Stage another human sacrifice on behalf of the ruling satanic cabal."



My gosh, these people are just complete idiots. Honestly, the people who believe in this bullcorn need medication and hospitalization. Let's have some fun with these morons, shall we?

"a US government drill (non-lethal) was hijacked". What the actual f*&^?!? Some idiot actually believes that the US government had set up a DRILL centered around a pretend mass shooting in a giant crowd of citizens? Holy smokes, anyone that buys that nonsense shouldn't be allowed to operate heavy machinery - or even a pair of scissors!

"by an Israel-linked element of organized crime and turned into a real mass shooting" Of course! The Jews did it! The Jews do everything! Rothschilds! Bildebergs! Gilbert Gottfried! It's all part of a giant, centuries-long Jewish plan of domination! ZOMG, will these lunatics EVER get tired of blaming everything on the Jews? Jews Jews Jews! Man, if the Jews had the power to do everything these moonbats have accused them of over the years, they would control every piece of land in the world, instead on a country whose borders are always in dispute. My experience is that losers and only losers blame their troubles on someone else, so you know what I think of these losers.

"Ramp up the post-9/11 police state, and push through more mass surveillance and gun control" Someone show me all this gun control that was the reason for 9/11; Sandy Hook; Columbine; Aurora; and Las Vegas. Seriously - name ONE gun control measure that has even been debated, much less passed. If the purpose of all these "false flag" mass murders is to effect gun control, then it isn't working. You'd think a smart person would have realized this after the 15th or 20th mass shooting failure, but no. You know what the definition of "insanity" is, right? It's doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result. Ladies and gentlemen, here we have a textbook example of insanity.

"Punish Trump for backing off the war on Syria" - So we have Jews powerful enough to punish the president of the United States of America, and yet they can't get gun control passed? See how stupid you have to be to buy into any of this? Yes, you have to be a special kind of stupid to believe in this crap.

"Stage another human sacrifice on behalf of the ruling satanic cabal" And here is the icing on the Crazy Cake. Human sacrifices for satanic cabals. But wait? I thought it was the Jews! How can Jews be satanists? See, these people are so completely stupid that they can't keep their imaginary villians straight. But this crosses the boundary between stupidity and offensive. Here we have absolute morons trying to tell us that real people were killed to satisfy satan. I want to say this is the simplist words possible: If you buy into any of this, you are stupid and offensive.

In the name of decency, I hope the mods lock this thread.

SNIP

RodeoSchro said:

Well, this is the usual Graycap-posts-a-video-with-no-analysis-comment-or-interpretation clusterf**k, which we all know is against the forum rules. But his stuff is always so laughable that no one reports it; I guess we like the humor and ridiculousness.

Since Graycap didn't watch his 30-minute video, neither am I. I don't have 3 minutes to waste on piffle, much less 30 minutes. Usually though, I'll peruse the comments because that's where you find the extra-special brand of crazy. But comments are disabled for this video, so that ought to tell you just how far out on the fringe the guy in this video is.

And just in case it doesn't, well maybe his own description of his video will make you chuckle/cringe:

"Was the Las Vegas shooting a false flag? Ex-CIA Clandestine Services Officer Robert David Steele says "yes." He hypothesizes that a US government drill (non-lethal) was hijacked by an Israel-linked element of organized crime and turned into a real mass shooting. The purpose: (1) Ramp up the post-9/11 police state, and push through more mass surveillance and gun control; (2) Punish Trump for backing off the war on Syria; (3) Stage another human sacrifice on behalf of the ruling satanic cabal."



My gosh, these people are just complete idiots. Honestly, the people who believe in this bullcorn need medication and hospitalization. Let's have some fun with these morons, shall we?

"a US government drill (non-lethal) was hijacked". What the actual f*&^?!? Some idiot actually believes that the US government had set up a DRILL centered around a pretend mass shooting in a giant crowd of citizens? Holy smokes, anyone that buys that nonsense shouldn't be allowed to operate heavy machinery - or even a pair of scissors!

"by an Israel-linked element of organized crime and turned into a real mass shooting" Of course! The Jews did it! The Jews do everything! Rothschilds! Bildebergs! Gilbert Gottfried! It's all part of a giant, centuries-long Jewish plan of domination! ZOMG, will these lunatics EVER get tired of blaming everything on the Jews? Jews Jews Jews! Man, if the Jews had the power to do everything these moonbats have accused them of over the years, they would control every piece of land in the world, instead on a country whose borders are always in dispute. My experience is that losers and only losers blame their troubles on someone else, so you know what I think of these losers.

"Ramp up the post-9/11 police state, and push through more mass surveillance and gun control" Someone show me all this gun control that was the reason for 9/11; Sandy Hook; Columbine; Aurora; and Las Vegas. Seriously - name ONE gun control measure that has even been debated, much less passed. If the purpose of all these "false flag" mass murders is to effect gun control, then it isn't working. You'd think a smart person would have realized this after the 15th or 20th mass shooting failure, but no. You know what the definition of "insanity" is, right? It's doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result. Ladies and gentlemen, here we have a textbook example of insanity.

"Punish Trump for backing off the war on Syria" - So we have Jews powerful enough to punish the president of the United States of America, and yet they can't get gun control passed? See how stupid you have to be to buy into any of this? Yes, you have to be a special kind of stupid to believe in this crap.

"Stage another human sacrifice on behalf of the ruling satanic cabal" And here is the icing on the Crazy Cake. Human sacrifices for satanic cabals. But wait? I thought it was the Jews! How can Jews be satanists? See, these people are so completely stupid that they can't keep their imaginary villians straight. But this crosses the boundary between stupidity and offensive. Here we have absolute morons trying to tell us that real people were killed to satisfy satan. I want to say this is the simplist words possible: If you buy into any of this, you are stupid and offensive.

In the name of decency, I hope the mods lock this thread.

There are a lot of posters here who are extremely credulous. I've been wondering if it's a coincidence that Prince used to believe some crazy things.

Lianachan said:

RodeoSchro said:

Well, this is the usual Graycap-posts-a-video-with-no-analysis-comment-or-interpretation clusterf**k, which we all know is against the forum rules. But his stuff is always so laughable that no one reports it; I guess we like the humor and ridiculousness.

Since Graycap didn't watch his 30-minute video, neither am I. I don't have 3 minutes to waste on piffle, much less 30 minutes. Usually though, I'll peruse the comments because that's where you find the extra-special brand of crazy. But comments are disabled for this video, so that ought to tell you just how far out on the fringe the guy in this video is.

And just in case it doesn't, well maybe his own description of his video will make you chuckle/cringe:

"Was the Las Vegas shooting a false flag? Ex-CIA Clandestine Services Officer Robert David Steele says "yes." He hypothesizes that a US government drill (non-lethal) was hijacked by an Israel-linked element of organized crime and turned into a real mass shooting. The purpose: (1) Ramp up the post-9/11 police state, and push through more mass surveillance and gun control; (2) Punish Trump for backing off the war on Syria; (3) Stage another human sacrifice on behalf of the ruling satanic cabal."



My gosh, these people are just complete idiots. Honestly, the people who believe in this bullcorn need medication and hospitalization. Let's have some fun with these morons, shall we?

"a US government drill (non-lethal) was hijacked". What the actual f*&^?!? Some idiot actually believes that the US government had set up a DRILL centered around a pretend mass shooting in a giant crowd of citizens? Holy smokes, anyone that buys that nonsense shouldn't be allowed to operate heavy machinery - or even a pair of scissors!

"by an Israel-linked element of organized crime and turned into a real mass shooting" Of course! The Jews did it! The Jews do everything! Rothschilds! Bildebergs! Gilbert Gottfried! It's all part of a giant, centuries-long Jewish plan of domination! ZOMG, will these lunatics EVER get tired of blaming everything on the Jews? Jews Jews Jews! Man, if the Jews had the power to do everything these moonbats have accused them of over the years, they would control every piece of land in the world, instead on a country whose borders are always in dispute. My experience is that losers and only losers blame their troubles on someone else, so you know what I think of these losers.

"Ramp up the post-9/11 police state, and push through more mass surveillance and gun control" Someone show me all this gun control that was the reason for 9/11; Sandy Hook; Columbine; Aurora; and Las Vegas. Seriously - name ONE gun control measure that has even been debated, much less passed. If the purpose of all these "false flag" mass murders is to effect gun control, then it isn't working. You'd think a smart person would have realized this after the 15th or 20th mass shooting failure, but no. You know what the definition of "insanity" is, right? It's doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result. Ladies and gentlemen, here we have a textbook example of insanity.

"Punish Trump for backing off the war on Syria" - So we have Jews powerful enough to punish the president of the United States of America, and yet they can't get gun control passed? See how stupid you have to be to buy into any of this? Yes, you have to be a special kind of stupid to believe in this crap.

"Stage another human sacrifice on behalf of the ruling satanic cabal" And here is the icing on the Crazy Cake. Human sacrifices for satanic cabals. But wait? I thought it was the Jews! How can Jews be satanists? See, these people are so completely stupid that they can't keep their imaginary villians straight. But this crosses the boundary between stupidity and offensive. Here we have absolute morons trying to tell us that real people were killed to satisfy satan. I want to say this is the simplist words possible: If you buy into any of this, you are stupid and offensive.

In the name of decency, I hope the mods lock this thread.

There are a lot of posters here who are extremely credulous. I've been wondering if it's a coincidence that Prince used to believe some crazy things.

Nah, most people have some belief in something that people think is nutz. Scratch the surface and you'll see it.

Since this batshit crazy thread hasn't been locked yet, let's just once and for all destroy the allegation that the Sutherland Springs tragedy was part of some US government drill. As happens so many times, the tinfoil hat set takes an innocent exercise and extrapolates and makes up everything they can to "create" a GOVERNMENT TAKE OVER EXERCISE. Jade Helm, y'all!

Here is the Snopes article dispelling the entire fallacy of the OP's video. Feel free to read it, should you be interested in facts and reality. And NOTE - this Snopes debunking was posted BEFORE the tragedy at Sutherland Springs:

https://www.snopes.com/do...strations/

i don't know what happened in las vegas, because the reports are conflicting. but i do know that many so-called 'conspiracy theories' have been proven to be true.

MKUltra, the Tuskegee experiments, Project Paperclip, Project Blue Book, and on and on. these are inconvenient truths, so the close-minded among us refuse to even study the issues involved and instead laugh at anyone who asks questions.

i may not agree with your statements Graycap, but i support your right to say and post what you think. personally, my opinion is that there is a lot of stress in the world, and a lot of people with mental illness are going completely untreated. i believe this is what happened with the shooter in las vegas.

and btw, if you are reading this and feel the need to bash me as a person, because my opinions are different from your opinions, please take a long look in the mirror first and remember the forum rules...

XxAxX said:

i don't know what happened in las vegas, because the reports are conflicting. but i do know that many so-called 'conspiracy theories' have been proven to be true.

MKUltra, the Tuskegee experiments, Project Paperclip, Project Blue Book, and on and on. these are inconvenient truths, so the close-minded among us refuse to even study the issues involved and instead laugh at anyone who asks questions.

i may not agree with your statements Graycap, but i support your right to say and post what you think. personally, my opinion is that there is a lot of stress in the world, and a lot of people with mental illness are going completely untreated. i believe this is what happened with the shooter in las vegas.

and btw, if you are reading this and feel the need to bash me as a person, because my opinions are different from your opinions, please take a long look in the mirror first and remember the forum rules...

I think you're awesome, despite any disagreements on stuff.

Have you watched this particular video? If so, what do you think about it?

As I said, I haven't watched it but I did read the description of it. Assuming the video expands on what the description says, there isn't any possible way I would spend 30 minutes on this. But if you have, and you think there's stuff in the video that makes a sensible case for any of the claims in the description, point me to it and I'll check it out.

XxAxX said:

i don't know what happened in las vegas, because the reports are conflicting. but i do know that many so-called 'conspiracy theories' have been proven to be true.

MKUltra, the Tuskegee experiments, Project Paperclip, Project Blue Book, and on and on. these are inconvenient truths, so the close-minded among us refuse to even study the issues involved and instead laugh at anyone who asks questions.

i may not agree with your statements Graycap, but i support your right to say and post what you think. personally, my opinion is that there is a lot of stress in the world, and a lot of people with mental illness are going completely untreated. i believe this is what happened with the shooter in las vegas.

and btw, if you are reading this and feel the need to bash me as a person, because my opinions are different from your opinions, please take a long look in the mirror first and remember the forum rules...

Just because some 'myths' have been shown to be true doesn't mean that beliving the basic official story is a sign of a closed mind. Just because there are questions asked doesn't mean that a person can not go one by one and discount them all and defer to the official reports.

OnlyNDaUsa said:

XxAxX said:

i don't know what happened in las vegas, because the reports are conflicting. but i do know that many so-called 'conspiracy theories' have been proven to be true.

MKUltra, the Tuskegee experiments, Project Paperclip, Project Blue Book, and on and on. these are inconvenient truths, so the close-minded among us refuse to even study the issues involved and instead laugh at anyone who asks questions.

i may not agree with your statements Graycap, but i support your right to say and post what you think. personally, my opinion is that there is a lot of stress in the world, and a lot of people with mental illness are going completely untreated. i believe this is what happened with the shooter in las vegas.

and btw, if you are reading this and feel the need to bash me as a person, because my opinions are different from your opinions, please take a long look in the mirror first and remember the forum rules...

Just because some 'myths' have been shown to be true doesn't mean that beliving the basic official story is a sign of a closed mind. Just because there are questions asked doesn't mean that a person can not go one by one and discount them all and defer to the official reports.

One thing no one has mentioned is that Graycap's thread title is "False Flag ops....all over the place". But so far, all he's put forth is a Las Vegas false flag theory. I guess the thread title was a little bit of an overstatement?

And since I know you are a very big supporter of an all-encompassing Second Amendment, and would thus be more keenly aware of any gun control effort either passed or even debated by our government, let me ask you about something.

Most of the conspiracies involving mass murders say they are staged in part to move forward gun control. The description in the OP video says that. But what gun control?!?

Pick any starting point you want: Columbine; Sandy Hook; San Bernadino; whatever. Has there been ANY kind of gun control or gun restriction or gun confiscation by ANYONE? I'd like to know.

RodeoSchro said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Just because some 'myths' have been shown to be true doesn't mean that beliving the basic official story is a sign of a closed mind. Just because there are questions asked doesn't mean that a person can not go one by one and discount them all and defer to the official reports.

One thing no one has mentioned is that Graycap's thread title is "False Flag ops....all over the place". But so far, all he's put forth is a Las Vegas false flag theory. I guess the thread title was a little bit of an overstatement?

And since I know you are a very big supporter of an all-encompassing Second Amendment, and would thus be more keenly aware of any gun control effort either passed or even debated by our government, let me ask you about something.

Most of the conspiracies involving mass murders say they are staged in part to move forward gun control. The description in the OP video says that. But what gun control?!?

Pick any starting point you want: Columbine; Sandy Hook; San Bernadino; whatever. Has there been ANY kind of gun control or gun restriction or gun confiscation by ANYONE? I'd like to know.

well, we can start with the Clinton bans. I am sure we can find many dems that are FOR bring that back. And Candidate Hillary called the SCOTUS Heller case a bad decision... on she intended to have reversed.

Obama said many times he wanted to do more for gun control. the left uses the code "reasonable" or "sensible" laws. But then talk about things like capacity or easy of loading or rate of fire... all of which are about the same for most semi-auto guns. And some have said crazy things like how they fired 100 rounds in a second...

And I know we have had elected officials say we need to get weapons of war off the streets...

so yeah there are officials that want to take guns away.

OnlyNDaUsa said:

XxAxX said:

i don't know what happened in las vegas, because the reports are conflicting. but i do know that many so-called 'conspiracy theories' have been proven to be true.

MKUltra, the Tuskegee experiments, Project Paperclip, Project Blue Book, and on and on. these are inconvenient truths, so the close-minded among us refuse to even study the issues involved and instead laugh at anyone who asks questions.

i may not agree with your statements Graycap, but i support your right to say and post what you think. personally, my opinion is that there is a lot of stress in the world, and a lot of people with mental illness are going completely untreated. i believe this is what happened with the shooter in las vegas.

and btw, if you are reading this and feel the need to bash me as a person, because my opinions are different from your opinions, please take a long look in the mirror first and remember the forum rules...

Just because some 'myths' have been shown to be true doesn't mean that beliving the basic official story is a sign of a closed mind. Just because there are questions asked doesn't mean that a person can not go one by one and discount them all and defer to the official reports.

good points. but also true is "just because you disagree with another person's opinion and viewpoint does not mean you should eternally dog their threads and attack that person personally." again, forum rules.

you are free to completely ignore Gray's threads. and yet - every. single. time. the people who already know they will not agree with Gray's opinions inevitably show up on his threads and spend their energy attacking him as a person and mocking his ideas.

seriously - why would anyone do that??? a boring life, so wasting time with nothing better to do???

not necessarily directed at you but just.... why not choose to ignore the threads you regard as shite.

XxAxX said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Just because some 'myths' have been shown to be true doesn't mean that beliving the basic official story is a sign of a closed mind. Just because there are questions asked doesn't mean that a person can not go one by one and discount them all and defer to the official reports.

good points. but also true is "just because you disagree with another person's opinion and viewpoint does not mean you should eternally dog their threads and attack that person personally." again, forum rules.

you are free to completely ignore Gray's threads. and yet - every. single. time. the people who already know they will not agree with Gray's opinions inevitably show up on his threads and spend their energy attacking him as a person and mocking his ideas.

seriously - why would anyone do that??? a boring life, so wasting time with nothing better to do???

not necessarily directed at you but just.... why not choose to ignore the threads you regard as shite.

I think I am very careful to not get personal. So I am sure I have not done that to graycap. I get called names all the time... I find it amusing.

But it is good advice.

OnlyNDaUsa said:

RodeoSchro said:

One thing no one has mentioned is that Graycap's thread title is "False Flag ops....all over the place". But so far, all he's put forth is a Las Vegas false flag theory. I guess the thread title was a little bit of an overstatement?

And since I know you are a very big supporter of an all-encompassing Second Amendment, and would thus be more keenly aware of any gun control effort either passed or even debated by our government, let me ask you about something.

Most of the conspiracies involving mass murders say they are staged in part to move forward gun control. The description in the OP video says that. But what gun control?!?

Pick any starting point you want: Columbine; Sandy Hook; San Bernadino; whatever. Has there been ANY kind of gun control or gun restriction or gun confiscation by ANYONE? I'd like to know.

well, we can start with the Clinton bans. I am sure we can find many dems that are FOR bring that back. And Candidate Hillary called the SCOTUS Heller case a bad decision... on she intended to have reversed.

Obama said many times he wanted to do more for gun control. the left uses the code "reasonable" or "sensible" laws. But then talk about things like capacity or easy of loading or rate of fire... all of which are about the same for most semi-auto guns. And some have said crazy things like how they fired 100 rounds in a second...

And I know we have had elected officials say we need to get weapons of war off the streets...

so yeah there are officials that want to take guns away.

But what has actually been enacted? According to the conspiracy theorists, including the one in this thread, "the government" is killing hundreds and hundreds of people for the purpose of getting gun control, but they never get any gun control.

If the conspiracy theorists were right, you'd think the government would be after the NRA with everything they have, because that's who stops every single gun control movement. And yet, the majority party enables the NRA and takes its marching orders directly from the NRA.

Makes no sense at all for anyone to claim that the government kills lots and lots of citizens in order to whip up a gun control environment.

RodeoSchro said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

well, we can start with the Clinton bans. I am sure we can find many dems that are FOR bring that back. And Candidate Hillary called the SCOTUS Heller case a bad decision... on she intended to have reversed.

Obama said many times he wanted to do more for gun control. the left uses the code "reasonable" or "sensible" laws. But then talk about things like capacity or easy of loading or rate of fire... all of which are about the same for most semi-auto guns. And some have said crazy things like how they fired 100 rounds in a second...

And I know we have had elected officials say we need to get weapons of war off the streets...

so yeah there are officials that want to take guns away.

But what has actually been enacted? According to the conspiracy theorists, including the one in this thread, "the government" is killing hundreds and hundreds of people for the purpose of getting gun control, but they never get any gun control.

If the conspiracy theorists were right, you'd think the government would be after the NRA with everything they have, because that's who stops every single gun control movement. And yet, the majority party enables the NRA and takes its marching orders directly from the NRA.

Makes no sense at all for anyone to claim that the government kills lots and lots of citizens in order to whip up a gun control environment.

those theories are bananas and as far as I know, no bills have even been proposed.

XxAxX said:

i don't know what happened in las vegas, because the reports are conflicting. but i do know that many so-called 'conspiracy theories' have been proven to be true.

MKUltra, the Tuskegee experiments, Project Paperclip, Project Blue Book, and on and on. these are inconvenient truths, so the close-minded among us refuse to even study the issues involved and instead laugh at anyone who asks questions.

i may not agree with your statements Graycap, but i support your right to say and post what you think. personally, my opinion is that there is a lot of stress in the world, and a lot of people with mental illness are going completely untreated. i believe this is what happened with the shooter in las vegas.

and btw, if you are reading this and feel the need to bash me as a person, because my opinions are different from your opinions, please take a long look in the mirror first and remember the forum rules...

Lol......I'm not really into the bashing nonsense. It doesn't add 2 the discussion.

I am a bit perplexed why certain people comment on videos that they haven't bothered 2 watch.

[Edited 11/10/17 10:28am]

Graycap23 said:

XxAxX said:

i don't know what happened in las vegas, because the reports are conflicting. but i do know that many so-called 'conspiracy theories' have been proven to be true.

MKUltra, the Tuskegee experiments, Project Paperclip, Project Blue Book, and on and on. these are inconvenient truths, so the close-minded among us refuse to even study the issues involved and instead laugh at anyone who asks questions.

i may not agree with your statements Graycap, but i support your right to say and post what you think. personally, my opinion is that there is a lot of stress in the world, and a lot of people with mental illness are going completely untreated. i believe this is what happened with the shooter in las vegas.

and btw, if you are reading this and feel the need to bash me as a person, because my opinions are different from your opinions, please take a long look in the mirror first and remember the forum rules...

Lol......I'm not really into the bashing nonsense. It doesn't add 2 the discussion.

I am a bit perplexed why certain people comment on videos that they haven't bothered 2 watch.

[Edited 11/10/17 10:28am]

I'll watch it after you do, and after you follow these rules:


One last thing: PLEASE do not copy articles verbatim from other sites or post videos without comment! If you want to quote something, or post a video, fine... say where it comes from, provide a link, and also provide ANALYSIS and INSIGHT of your own. We're here to discuss and debate ideas we actually hold. So make your opinion clear, and remember to do so with civility.

RodeoSchro said:

Graycap23 said:

Lol......I'm not really into the bashing nonsense. It doesn't add 2 the discussion.

I am a bit perplexed why certain people comment on videos that they haven't bothered 2 watch.

[Edited 11/10/17 10:28am]

I'll watch it after you do, and after you follow these rules:


One last thing: PLEASE do not copy articles verbatim from other sites or post videos without comment! If you want to quote something, or post a video, fine... say where it comes from, provide a link, and also provide ANALYSIS and INSIGHT of your own. We're here to discuss and debate ideas we actually hold. So make your opinion clear, and remember to do so with civility.

i hope that mic did not break

Hey, Only, you may have been right about Hillary being sick. Brazille thought about replacing her with Joe Biden. You all were saying she had Parkinsons. Brazilled obviously thought she was really sick.

RodeoSchro said:

XxAxX said:

i don't know what happened in las vegas, because the reports are conflicting. but i do know that many so-called 'conspiracy theories' have been proven to be true.

MKUltra, the Tuskegee experiments, Project Paperclip, Project Blue Book, and on and on. these are inconvenient truths, so the close-minded among us refuse to even study the issues involved and instead laugh at anyone who asks questions.

i may not agree with your statements Graycap, but i support your right to say and post what you think. personally, my opinion is that there is a lot of stress in the world, and a lot of people with mental illness are going completely untreated. i believe this is what happened with the shooter in las vegas.

and btw, if you are reading this and feel the need to bash me as a person, because my opinions are different from your opinions, please take a long look in the mirror first and remember the forum rules...

I think you're awesome, despite any disagreements on stuff.

Have you watched this particular video? If so, what do you think about it?

As I said, I haven't watched it but I did read the description of it. Assuming the video expands on what the description says, there isn't any possible way I would spend 30 minutes on this. But if you have, and you think there's stuff in the video that makes a sensible case for any of the claims in the description, point me to it and I'll check it out.

i love you too dear, even when we argue. i just can't help myself, as your posts are so well-written and entertaining that i enjoy them even when i disagree with what you say. you are clearly an intelligent guy, as are others who post here.

as to this particular topic - no. i disagree with Gray's take on this particular subject. i generally enjoy his posts because i find him to be intelligent and inquisitive. he is open-minded and creative in his approach to various unusual topics. he is a fun read. never boring and usually thought-provoking.

my personal opinion about the las vegas shooter is based on what we know of his history and mental health. i think he was stressed out, lost in an uncaring world, mentally ill and thereby suffered an extreme psychotic break. but that is just my opinion.

i posted my objections to what is happening on this thread because there is an obvious pattern of abuse here at the ORG.

as in ANYthing. ANYTHING AT ALL that Gray posts is routinely attacked. he is mocked for his ideas and mocked as a person. (forum rules)

generally when it comes to Gray's posts, folks show up, deride what he is saying (usually without watching the material he presents), mock him personally and totally jack the thread without ever contributing a thing to the actual topic. (forum rules)

it actually comes off as a bit of a circle jerk, to be honest, and serves only to rise the thread to the top of the page, where it is noticed by more and more people.

and as they notice the pattern of attacks on Gray, people might begin to wonder "why are they so desperate to discredit everything Gray says? why are they afraid of any actual discussion about the topic? is there something i should know? i better watch the clip."

now, i understand that some of the folk who engage in these attacks on Gray and his threads might honestly believe themselves to be on a mission for the greater social good through stopping the spread of misinformation.

but this doesn't work. it never will. historically, no one person has ever, ever been able to convince the entire world to believe as they themselves believe. the best we can hope for in maintaining a peaceful, harmonious world is to agree to disagree. does america support the free expression of ideas? as in.... free speech? is that not a legally guaranteed right, up to and including actual hate speech??!!!

after all, Gray is not threatening harm to anyone. he is merely exploring alternate theories. no harm, no foul. remember - this forum is a teensy, unimportant bit of an international online community. and that's not even counting the dark web!

maybe those who wish to prevent the spread of misinformation for the greater social good might want to consider actually becoming political activists, working for positive change in the real world instead of challenging someone at prince.org, no? !!!

so, instead of showing up and trashing the thread, the ideas contained herein, and Gray as a person, wouldn't it be far better/more mature for one to simply disregard what Gray posts?

for example the process might go something like this: "oh look, Gray has posted another thread. based on my past experience acquired over many years, i know that i will disagree with what he has posted. i know the topic will seem silly to me. therefore, instead of wasting my energy and precious (never to be reclaimed) time, i will refrain from even clicking on Gray's thread and thus spare myself the aggravation that his topics inevitably cause me."

for another extreme example that is totally unconnected to Gray - if one were to observe another person standing on the bus, spewing what one personally considered to be nonsense while also appearing to be a little bit off, would one therefore loudly shout "you are clearly crazy-nuts!! stop what you are saying immediately!!! dang you and your crazy unwashed nonsense!!! i will not tolerate your crazy for one second longer!!! get off the bus right now and never come back!!"

would one?? and, if so, isn't that approach equally as insane as the allegedly crazy bus-ranter??

why not lead by example and just ignore Gray's posts???? would it really be SO threatening to one's own personal ego to allow other people to express differing opinions? would it be so wrong to simply not participate?????
sure, i get that one feels obliged to express an idea not in support of the thread topic. i've done that myself, not that it did me any good

but at some point such becomes a real time-sink, unproductive behavior that is ultimately equally as strange as the original topic, eh?

as usual, this is only my personal take on the situation. so, say what you will i love you all. we're all connected anyway.

thanks for listening. have a great day!!