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Thread started 09/30/17 11:31am

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...Spilling of the seed...

This came up in the PMM forum thread: The homo eroticism of his body..of work

Like so many it was an interesting line of discussion but off topic.

I would like (with Laurarichardson) to continue it here and anyone else of course

I will cut n paste the parts from the thread and post them here.

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Reply #1 posted 09/30/17 3:43pm

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so here is the flow of the origins of the discussion

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Reply #64 posted 09/20/17 10:23am

laurarichardson: I am discussing Christians that know the Bible and realize what spilling the seeds will get you.

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Reply #65 posted 09/20/17 11:08am

OldFriends4Sale: yep, even the 'spilling of the seed' had nothing to do with homosexuality.
I was told a long time ago that that was used as a law against masturbation.
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But the 'spilling of the seed' was only in connection to a rule that if your brother did not/could not produce children for the sake of family inheritance, a brother or cousin would have to 'mate' with the wife until a child was produced. The space in the torah that talks about a judgment agains a man 'spilling the seed' was in connection to that. Not homosexuality or masturbation. He had intercourse with the 'sister in law' but 'pulled out' and 'spilled the seed'.

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Reply #70 posted 09/20/17 11:33am

laurarichardson: Please tell me that if God stuck you for spilling the seed for maturbating why you would not get it for spilling in some dude. No chance of procreation either way. In addition to Soddom and Gomorrah. The Bible is against sex outside of marriage what would make you think that sex with the same sex would get a pass. https://www.bible.com/bib....22-23.nlt
Maybe stealing, sleeping with someone else's spouse, killing or okay as well.

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Reply #71 posted 09/20/17 11:37am

OldFriends4Sale:

Read it again. It wasn't about masturbation. Did you read my post? I said someone tried to tell me that the 'spilling of the seed' was a law against masturbation. There is no 'law' against masturbation in the torah or bible.
'Spilling the Seed' It was about making sure the family line continued.

The condemnation in Leviticus is about temple prostitutes. That is what a sodomite is, it is talked about in that those letters.

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Not to mention there is no condemnation against 'women with women' in the Torah.
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If you look up anywhere else where a prophet or Jesus mentions Sodom it has nothing to do with homosexuality.
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The people making up things according to their own feelings or opinions then go into the torah/bible to find something to try to justify their feelings is why so much twisted doctrine is out there. Even people who teach as a fact that God is against 'drinking'.

Even if you think about all the 'preaching' against it, it is 99% always focused on men, whether the 'preacher' is a male or female it is focused against male homosexuality. Which is more a 'threat' to both.

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We can definately take this to P&R for further debate.

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Reply #72 posted 09/20./17 11:46am

laurarichardson: I tread what you wrote but you are not answering my question. If masturbsting is an issue why would spilling seeds in another man be okay? No procreation is taking place and women are not mentioned just because women were given the short shift back in those times. I take man in the Bible to mean mankind in general. There are plenty of Binle verses about the flesh and weakness in the Bible. Paul discussed this in his travels when setting up the church. No why can any sane person think that sex outside of marriage is a no no with God but homosexuality is okay.

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Reply #73 posted 09/20/17 11:48am

OldFriends4Sale:

You didn't comprehend what I said.
I said masturbation was not the issue.

That was someone's own personal morality being injected into the scripture.

And it had nothing to do with masturbation.

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Reply #74 posted 09/20/17 11:59am

laurarichardson:

I do not agree with what you are saying because I do not follow the Torah.

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You think the Bible is a top 100 list of do and don'ts. It is a toolkit for living your life in a moral manner. Having sex outside of marriage gay or straight is not living in a moral manner and no gay people were getting married in Biblical times. Plenty of Bible verses concerning lucivious behavior among straight people trust homosexuality does not get a pass on the sin list.

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Reply #78 posted 09/20/17 12:28pm

OldFriends4Sale:

The torah is the old testament Laurarichardson.

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Reply #82 posted 09/20/17 12:39pm

laurarichardson:

Let me start at the top.

I am not Jesus and I do not follow the Torah.

I believe spilling the seeds means the following.

Masturbation

Homosexuality

Sex for grins and giggles = non procreation activity.

If a man had boils break out on his body for spilling the seeds why would any spilling be okay?

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https://www.christianforums.com/threads/spilling-the-seed-semen-questions.7621541/

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Genesis 38 And it came to pass at that time, that Judah went down from his brethren, and turned in to a certain Adullamite, whose name was Hirah.

2 And Judah saw there a daughter of a certain Canaanite, whose name was Shuah; and he took her, and went in unto her.

3 And she conceived, and bare a son; and he called his name Er.

4 And she conceived again, and bare a son; and she called his name Onan.

5 And she yet again conceived, and bare a son; and called his name Shelah: and he was at Chezib, when she bare him.

6 And Judah took a wife for Er his firstborn, whose name was Tamar.

7 And Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the Lord; and the Lord slew him.

8 And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother.

9 And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.

10 And the thing which he did displeased the Lord:

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Reply #4 posted 10/05/17 12:16pm

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For me, I do my best to make sure no man has wasted his seed with me.

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Reply #5 posted 10/05/17 12:56pm

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If there is a biblical prohibition for masturbating, isn't it sexist and half-formed? I mean, a woman
doesn't "spill eggs" when she masturbates, so she gets a pass? And last I looked, eggs were just
as important as a man's spunk, which means if we are going to be consistent with this supposed He-
braic interpretation, a menstruous woman is "spilling seed" and sinning too, right?

Besides, what did the Hebrews know about human sexuality anyways? So, onanism as a sin is silly,
if you ask me.

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I would love for Laurarichardson to come continue the 'debate' on this

Would Wet Dreams fall under 'spilling the seed'?

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Dasein said:

If there is a biblical prohibition for masturbating, isn't it sexist and half-formed? I mean, a woman
doesn't "spill eggs" when she masturbates, so she gets a pass? And last I looked, eggs were just
as important as a man's spunk, which means if we are going to be consistent with this supposed He-
braic interpretation, a menstruous woman is "spilling seed" and sinning too, right?

Besides, what did the Hebrews know about human sexuality anyways? So, onanism as a sin is silly,
if you ask me.

Well Laurarichardson believes it is about Masturbation.
And it clearly isn't. I've yet to read anything prohibiting masturbation male or female.
And yes lol I agree, if this was (being the only place anywhere in the Torah or Letters) then it would be a 1 sided sin, like stuff used to try to condemn homosexuality are 1 sided -only about men.

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Lauraricharson come finish what you started....

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The Bible doesn't care a bit about sex. If you make sex an idol that's another matter. Things you put before loving your neighbor and God are the main issue. Sodom and Gomorrah were about cities that worshipped false gods.

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Reply #10 posted 10/16/17 2:58pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

The Bible doesn't care a bit about sex. If you make sex an idol that's another matter. Things you put before loving your neighbor and God are the main issue. Sodom and Gomorrah were about cities that worshipped false gods.


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TrivialPursuit said:

2freaky4church1 said:

The Bible doesn't care a bit about sex. If you make sex an idol that's another matter. Things you put before loving your neighbor and God are the main issue. Sodom and Gomorrah were about cities that worshipped false gods.


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