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Thread started 09/21/17 11:32am

RodeoSchro

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Please forgive me, but here is a 9/11 Pentagon thread


I should know better. I really should. But some rare photographs from the 9/11 attack on the Pentagon were just released. Or more accurately, re-released.

There are several images that show wreckage from the American Airlines plane that hit the Pentagon. I hold out the faintest hope that those pictures will convince 9/11 truthers that a jet, and not a missile, hit the Pentagon. Here's the link (images 3, 22 and 23 show airplane wreckage):


http://www.chron.com/nati...o-12642220

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[Edited 9/21/17 11:34am]

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Reply #1 posted 09/21/17 11:36am

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there were photos from very early on. And jetliner crash test from before 9/11/2002 into similar structures yielded similar obliteration of the plane.

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Reply #2 posted 09/21/17 11:44am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

there were photos from very early on. And jetliner crash test from before 9/11/2002 into similar structures yielded similar obliteration of the plane.




Yeah, but I don't recall seeing the photos with the airliner wreckage. The article says they were released but a technical glitch took them down. I'm sure we're going to hear that was a conspiracy, too.

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Reply #3 posted 09/21/17 4:02pm

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RodeoSchro said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

there were photos from very early on. And jetliner crash test from before 9/11/2002 into similar structures yielded similar obliteration of the plane.


Yeah, but I don't recall seeing the photos with the airliner wreckage. The article says they were released but a technical glitch took them down. I'm sure we're going to hear that was a conspiracy, too.


I'd not seen the airplane debris photos before. But I do remember seeing that nose shaped hole in an inner wall where the plane stopped. To me at the time, it was very telling. People want a conspiracy and there are probably other things we'll not know for decades, if at all, but the Pentagon situation was pretty straightforward.

There are videos of planes being test-crashed into a brick wall that are amazing. They just disappear, it seems. Obliterated beyond belief. Having seen those, it's not hard to conceive that the plane at the Pentagon was changed into confetti at best.

Here's the video I referenced. It's fascinating in general, but to see the wings that weren't impact continue on past the wall from momentum and inertia is something you don't think about.

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Reply #4 posted 09/21/17 7:16pm

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cruise missile did it...

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Reply #5 posted 09/22/17 7:38am

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RJOrion said:

cruise missile did it...



A missile with American Airlines painting on it? LOL.

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Reply #6 posted 09/27/17 8:10pm

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Naw.

I watched the news the whole day.

From the first plane till the next day.

No plane flew in the Pentagon. I know what I saw on the news that day. Footage has been tempered with and now the news shows that a plane did go in there.

It's too crazy to be true, but unfortunately it's true.



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Reply #7 posted 09/28/17 6:01am

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dJJ said:

Naw.

I watched the news the whole day.

From the first plane till the next day.

No plane flew in the Pentagon. I know what I saw on the news that day. Footage has been tempered with and now the news shows that a plane did go in there.

It's too crazy to be true, but unfortunately it's true.



I do not know what you saw or what you remembered seeing but it was said from the start that it was a plane. Oh but some said it was not a plane... but many did say they saw one. And "100s of area security cameras had their footage taken... and never returned..." really? and then why are not 100s of owners of said cameras on record saying that happened?

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Reply #8 posted 09/28/17 10:04am

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Reply #9 posted 10/02/17 9:04am

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Lol........one of the most secure building on this planet.

Why haven't they released the footage? I'll give u one guess.

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Reply #10 posted 10/05/17 5:55pm

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The official story is absurd as it is impossible.

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Reply #11 posted 10/05/17 6:25pm

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gimmesomehornz said:

The official story is absurd as it is impossible.

Agreed

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Reply #12 posted 10/05/17 8:07pm

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There are several images that show wreckage from the American Airlines plane that hit the Pentagon.

"Evidence" can be planted, photos can be doctored, lies can be put forth. There were reportedly passports of "the terrorists" found at both the WTC "ground zero" and the scene at Shanksville that somehow miraculously survived all that fire and destruction.

I hold out the faintest hope that those pictures will convince 9/11 truthers ...

Why aren't you a truther, i.e. someone interested in the truth?

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Reply #13 posted 10/06/17 6:34am

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You absolutely can’t convince a hard core conspiracy theorist because it’s not based on logic or solid evidence. They can’t back down, even if the faultiness of their standby conspiracy media is pointed out to them... it’s because it’s a psychological thing that also shows itself in other ways in their lives. It’s a self value thing at the base of it. Almost like religion!

I recall (and this is in-person, face to face) the two times that I and others hit conspiracy theorists with hard truth evidenence and multiple expert perspectives that contradicted their beliefs... there were two very different responses.

One (who was actually a petroleum engineer) said “Well, you know I just like this stuff, I don’t really believe it.”

The other, a completely different person at a different time, said “look, it doesn’t matter what you show me or tell me. I’m not going to change my mind.”
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Reply #14 posted 10/06/17 6:40am

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TrivialPursuit said:



RodeoSchro said:




OnlyNDaUsa said:


there were photos from very early on. And jetliner crash test from before 9/11/2002 into similar structures yielded similar obliteration of the plane.




Yeah, but I don't recall seeing the photos with the airliner wreckage. The article says they were released but a technical glitch took them down. I'm sure we're going to hear that was a conspiracy, too.




I'd not seen the airplane debris photos before. But I do remember seeing that nose shaped hole in an inner wall where the plane stopped. To me at the time, it was very telling. People want a conspiracy and there are probably other things we'll not know for decades, if at all, but the Pentagon situation was pretty straightforward.

There are videos of planes being test-crashed into a brick wall that are amazing. They just disappear, it seems. Obliterated beyond belief. Having seen those, it's not hard to conceive that the plane at the Pentagon was changed into confetti at best.

Here's the video I referenced. It's fascinating in general, but to see the wings that weren't impact continue on past the wall from momentum and inertia is something you don't think about.



Ha ha... the shoe lift ad at the end! But yes, that shows how a concrete wall can desintegrate a plane into particles.
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Reply #15 posted 10/06/17 6:54am

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what is more plausible? that it was a missile with NO actual payload... that is it did not explode it just burnt...that was full of plane parts and pained LIKE a plane...and the people on the plane either did not exist or were taken and killed and their bodies put into the missile (all within the same timeline)

or a plane was highjacked and flown into the DC area and the "piolet' saw the Pentagon and flew into it (the assumption he meant to hit the Pentagon and not just the first big target he saw and was lined up with is pretty narrow thinking)

to me, the missile thing is WAY less likely and much more difficult to pull off...

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Reply #16 posted 10/06/17 7:25am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

what is more plausible? that it was a missile with NO actual payload... that is it did not explode it just burnt...that was full of plane parts and pained LIKE a plane...and the people on the plane either did not exist or were taken and killed and their bodies put into the missile (all within the same timeline)

or a plane was highjacked and flown into the DC area and the "piolet' saw the Pentagon and flew into it (the assumption he meant to hit the Pentagon and not just the first big target he saw and was lined up with is pretty narrow thinking)

to me, the missile thing is WAY less likely and much more difficult to pull off...

lol.....a missile that explodes gives away the fact the it wasn't a plane.

Lol...........

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Reply #17 posted 10/06/17 7:28am

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Graycap23 said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

what is more plausible? that it was a missile with NO actual payload... that is it did not explode it just burnt...that was full of plane parts and pained LIKE a plane...and the people on the plane either did not exist or were taken and killed and their bodies put into the missile (all within the same timeline)

or a plane was highjacked and flown into the DC area and the "piolet' saw the Pentagon and flew into it (the assumption he meant to hit the Pentagon and not just the first big target he saw and was lined up with is pretty narrow thinking)

to me, the missile thing is WAY less likely and much more difficult to pull off...

lol.....a missile that explodes gives away the fact the it wasn't a plane.

Lol...........

what? I said that whatever hit the Pentagon did not explode as a missile with a typical payload would have....and that is simply not something you can even argue

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Reply #18 posted 10/06/17 7:30am

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it is cute in an ironically pathetic way to be mocked by someone that is deep into a totally refuted (100 times over) conspiracy theory rabbit hole.

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Reply #19 posted 10/06/17 9:53am

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You absolutely can’t convince a hard core conspiracy theorist because it’s not based on logic or solid evidence. They can’t back down, even if the faultiness of their standby conspiracy media is pointed out to them... it’s because it’s a psychological thing that also shows itself in other ways in their lives. It’s a self value thing at the base of it. Almost like religion! I recall (and this is in-person, face to face) the two times that I and others hit conspiracy theorists with hard truth evidenence and multiple expert perspectives that contradicted their beliefs... there were two very different responses. One (who was actually a petroleum engineer) said “Well, you know I just like this stuff, I don’t really believe it.” The other, a completely different person at a different time, said “look, it doesn’t matter what you show me or tell me. I’m not going to change my mind.”

The most "hard core" conspiracy theory regarding 9-11-01 is the official story. Here's a well done video summarizing that:

https://www.youtube.com/w...C_4mGTs98

Please watch because, to your credit, if you believe the official story then you don't fully know it. It's absolutely preposterous. And if you're against outlandish theories being put forth then I highly suggest looking into it.

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Reply #20 posted 10/06/17 10:05am

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gimmesomehornz said:

ufoclub said:

You absolutely can’t convince a hard core conspiracy theorist because it’s not based on logic or solid evidence. They can’t back down, even if the faultiness of their standby conspiracy media is pointed out to them... it’s because it’s a psychological thing that also shows itself in other ways in their lives. It’s a self value thing at the base of it. Almost like religion! I recall (and this is in-person, face to face) the two times that I and others hit conspiracy theorists with hard truth evidenence and multiple expert perspectives that contradicted their beliefs... there were two very different responses. One (who was actually a petroleum engineer) said “Well, you know I just like this stuff, I don’t really believe it.” The other, a completely different person at a different time, said “look, it doesn’t matter what you show me or tell me. I’m not going to change my mind.”

The most "hard core" conspiracy theory regarding 9-11-01 is the official story. Here's a well done video summarizing that:

https://www.youtube.com/w...C_4mGTs98

Please watch because, to your credit, if you believe the official story then you don't fully know it. It's absolutely preposterous. And if you're against outlandish theories being put forth then I highly suggest looking into it.

there is a BIG difference between accepting most of the official story after considering the conspiracies and accepting them without question.

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Reply #21 posted 10/06/17 10:42am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

there is a BIG difference between accepting most of the official story after considering the conspiracies and accepting them without question.

Most people have accepted the official story without question. Instead of looking at the evidence for themselves and assessing the information they just buy what mainstream (government and media) tells them.

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Reply #22 posted 10/06/17 11:36am

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gimmesomehornz said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

there is a BIG difference between accepting most of the official story after considering the conspiracies and accepting them without question.

Most people have accepted the official story without question. Instead of looking at the evidence for themselves and assessing the information they just buy what mainstream (government and media) tells them.

yeah but that seems to be a softer stance that your other post. I looked at many videos and read things that someone came up with and none of it proved anything. Just about every single major question has been answered. But I will check the video out.

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Reply #23 posted 10/06/17 6:54pm

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Graycap23 said:

Lol........one of the most secure building on this planet.

Why haven't they released the footage? I'll give u one guess.


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Reply #24 posted 10/07/17 10:55am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

... I will check the video out.


To "conspire" means "to act or work together toward the same result or goal" which is what we're told Osama bin Laden and his band of box-cutter wielding hijackers did.

The video is a summation of the official conspiracy theory given to us by the mainstream media and government spokespersons.

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Reply #25 posted 10/07/17 11:11am

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gimmesomehornz said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

... I will check the video out.


To "conspire" means "to act or work together toward the same result or goal" which is what we're told Osama bin Laden and his band of box-cutter wielding hijackers did.

The video is a summation of the official conspiracy theory given to us by the mainstream media and government spokespersons.

i watched it some bs in it but it doesn't really say much against the basic official story.

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