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Mueller Trump/Russia Investigation. The saga continues...

This just in:

Mueller obtained a warrant that could change the entire nature of the Russia investigtion

http://www.businessinsider.com/mueller-obtains-warrant-for-russia-linked-facebook-ads-and-accounts-2017-9

"The key here, though, is that Mueller clearly already has enough information on these accounts — and their link to a potential crime to justify forcing [Facebook] to give up the info," she said. "That means that he has uncovered a great deal of evidence through other avenues of Russian election interference."

It also means that Mueller is no longer looking at Russia's election interference from a strict counterintelligence standpoint — rather, he now believes he may be able to obtain enough evidence to charge specific foreign entities with a crime.


The Facebook warrant "means that Mueller has concluded that specific foreign individuals committed a crime by making a 'contribution' in connection with an election," Mariotti wrote on Saturday.

"It also means that he has evidence of that crime that convinced a federal magistrate judge of two things: first, that there was good reason to believe that the foreign individual committed the crime. Second, that evidence of the crime existed on Facebook."

That has implications for Trump and his associates, too, Mariotti said.

"It is a crime to know that a crime is taking place and to help it succeed. That's aiding and abetting. If any Trump associate knew about the foreign contributions that Mueller's search warrant focused on and helped that effort in a tangible way, they could be charged."

Congressional intelligence committees are homing in on the campaign's data operation as a potential trove of incriminating information.

Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff, the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, told MSNBC earlier this month that he wants to know how sophisticated the Russian-bought ads were — in terms of their content and targets — to determine whether they had any help from the Trump campaign.

The House Intelligence Committee also wants to interview the digital director for Trump's campaign, Brad Parscale, who worked closely with Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner.

Kushner was put in charge of the campaign's entire data operation and is now being scrutinized by the FBI over his contacts with Russia's ambassador and the CEO of a sanctioned Russian bank in December

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Reply #1 posted 09/17/17 9:43am

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How do you know that the KOCH brothers or republican donors didn't hire hackers in Russia?
It's also ridiculous that you are adamant of Russian interference in the U.S based on speculation and conspiracy theories, yet when the CIA chief inexplicably admitted they are trying to to overthrow Venezuela. Again! You claim it's not true.
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Reply #2 posted 09/17/17 9:51am

poppys

^^ Why are you trolling me on every thread today? Slow day on the org for you? This is an ongoing investigation here in the USA that doesn't have dick to do with Venezuela, one crisis at a time please. I started a thread about it, so what? You are welcome to not participate.

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Reply #3 posted 09/17/17 10:02am

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poppys said:

^^ Why are you trolling me on every thread today? Slow day on the org for you? This is an ongoing investigation here in the USA that doesn't have dick to do with Venezuela, one crisis at a time please. I started a thread about it, so what? You are welcome to not participate.


You started a conspiracy theory thread about Russia.
For the purpose of Blaming Russsia for the fact that Hillary Clinton loss because she is murderous war criminal, racist policy supporting, Saudi Arabian funded politician who didn't support raising the minimum wage to help reduce the wage disparity between men and women.
She also hates universal healthcare.
It's all Hillary, not Russia. Move along at this point.


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Reply #4 posted 09/17/17 10:13am

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Reply #5 posted 09/17/17 10:17am

poppys

hausofmoi7 said:

poppys said:

^^ Why are you trolling me on every thread today? Slow day on the org for you? This is an ongoing investigation here in the USA that doesn't have dick to do with Venezuela, one crisis at a time please. I started a thread about it, so what? You are welcome to not participate.

You started a conspiracy theory thread about Russia. For the purpose of Blaming Russsia for the fact that Hillary Clinton loss because she is murderous war criminal, racist policy supporting, Saudi Arabian funded politician. Who didn't support raising the minimum wage to help reduce the wage disparity between men and women wages. She also hates universal healthcare. It's all Hillary, not Russia. Move along at this point.

What the fuck are you talking about? This is not conspiracy. Nothing was said about HRC except in your retro reply. This investigation of TRUMP is HAPPENING, dude. You are not in the USA and I should move along? Maybe some adults will read the thread.

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Reply #6 posted 09/17/17 10:25am

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Those goalposts keep getting wider and wider.

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Reply #7 posted 09/17/17 10:37am

hausofmoi7

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poppys said:



hausofmoi7 said:


poppys said:

^^ Why are you trolling me on every thread today? Slow day on the org for you? This is an ongoing investigation here in the USA that doesn't have dick to do with Venezuela, one crisis at a time please. I started a thread about it, so what? You are welcome to not participate.



You started a conspiracy theory thread about Russia. For the purpose of Blaming Russsia for the fact that Hillary Clinton loss because she is murderous war criminal, racist policy supporting, Saudi Arabian funded politician. Who didn't support raising the minimum wage to help reduce the wage disparity between men and women wages. She also hates universal healthcare. It's all Hillary, not Russia. Move along at this point.

This investigation of TRUMP is HAPPENING, dude. You are not in the USA and I should move along?


And you're not in Russia.



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Reply #8 posted 09/17/17 10:44am

poppys

That's hilarious, you're not in Russia either. At least I'm posting about the country I live in.

Go troll your peeps. Or have they had it with you?

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Reply #9 posted 09/17/17 10:57am

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poppys said:

That's hilarious, you're not in Russia either. At least I'm posting about the country I live in.

Go troll your peeps. Or have they had it with you?


You're not In Russia and I'm not in the states.
Yet you constantly berate people who discuss u.s politics/foreign which affects their countries and others.
And yet here you are discussing Russian politics as you speculate it may affect the U.S where you live.
Worst still unlike u.s foreign policy issues which are backed by facts.
your Russia obsession is flimsy conspiracy at best.


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"It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non-violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection" – Lesley Hazleton on the first muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #10 posted 09/17/17 11:08am

poppys

Russia obsession? R U 4 real? I'm out of my own thread. You "WIN" ding ding ding. trolls

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Reply #11 posted 09/17/17 11:33am

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poppys said:

Russia obsession? R U 4 real? I'm out of my own thread. You "WIN" ding ding ding. trolls


I said my piece, it was kind of relevant (pointing out the hypocrisy of this thread at least)
But please continue, I don't want to high jack your topic.
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Reply #12 posted 09/17/17 11:36am

poppys

Thank you. continued...

poppys said:

This just in:

Mueller obtained a warrant that could change the entire nature of the Russia investigtion

http://www.businessinsider.com/mueller-obtains-warrant-for-russia-linked-facebook-ads-and-accounts-2017-9

"The key here, though, is that Mueller clearly already has enough information on these accounts — and their link to a potential crime to justify forcing [Facebook] to give up the info," she said. "That means that he has uncovered a great deal of evidence through other avenues of Russian election interference."

It also means that Mueller is no longer looking at Russia's election interference from a strict counterintelligence standpoint — rather, he now believes he may be able to obtain enough evidence to charge specific foreign entities with a crime.


The Facebook warrant "means that Mueller has concluded that specific foreign individuals committed a crime by making a 'contribution' in connection with an election," Mariotti wrote on Saturday.

"It also means that he has evidence of that crime that convinced a federal magistrate judge of two things: first, that there was good reason to believe that the foreign individual committed the crime. Second, that evidence of the crime existed on Facebook."

That has implications for Trump and his associates, too, Mariotti said.

"It is a crime to know that a crime is taking place and to help it succeed. That's aiding and abetting. If any Trump associate knew about the foreign contributions that Mueller's search warrant focused on and helped that effort in a tangible way, they could be charged."

Congressional intelligence committees are homing in on the campaign's data operation as a potential trove of incriminating information.

Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff, the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, told MSNBC earlier this month that he wants to know how sophisticated the Russian-bought ads were — in terms of their content and targets — to determine whether they had any help from the Trump campaign.

The House Intelligence Committee also wants to interview the digital director for Trump's campaign, Brad Parscale, who worked closely with Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner.

Kushner was put in charge of the campaign's entire data operation and is now being scrutinized by the FBI over his contacts with Russia's ambassador and the CEO of a sanctioned Russian bank in December

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Reply #13 posted 09/17/17 12:48pm

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lol lol lol

Disagreeing, debating, arguing... these things do not constitute "trolling". razz

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Reply #14 posted 09/17/17 1:36pm

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Thunderclunk.

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Reply #15 posted 09/17/17 3:19pm

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2freaky4logic

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Reply #16 posted 09/18/17 11:11am

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Thanks.

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Reply #17 posted 09/18/17 11:40am

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2freaky4truth!

We were HERE, where were you?

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Reply #18 posted 09/18/17 12:36pm

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And the church says amen.

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Reply #19 posted 09/19/17 5:38am

Musicslave

poppys said:

Thank you. continued...

poppys said:

This just in:

Mueller obtained a warrant that could change the entire nature of the Russia investigtion

http://www.businessinsider.com/mueller-obtains-warrant-for-russia-linked-facebook-ads-and-accounts-2017-9

"The key here, though, is that Mueller clearly already has enough information on these accounts — and their link to a potential crime to justify forcing [Facebook] to give up the info," she said. "That means that he has uncovered a great deal of evidence through other avenues of Russian election interference."

It also means that Mueller is no longer looking at Russia's election interference from a strict counterintelligence standpoint — rather, he now believes he may be able to obtain enough evidence to charge specific foreign entities with a crime.


The Facebook warrant "means that Mueller has concluded that specific foreign individuals committed a crime by making a 'contribution' in connection with an election," Mariotti wrote on Saturday.

"It also means that he has evidence of that crime that convinced a federal magistrate judge of two things: first, that there was good reason to believe that the foreign individual committed the crime. Second, that evidence of the crime existed on Facebook."

That has implications for Trump and his associates, too, Mariotti said.

"It is a crime to know that a crime is taking place and to help it succeed. That's aiding and abetting. If any Trump associate knew about the foreign contributions that Mueller's search warrant focused on and helped that effort in a tangible way, they could be charged."

Congressional intelligence committees are homing in on the campaign's data operation as a potential trove of incriminating information.

Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff, the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, told MSNBC earlier this month that he wants to know how sophisticated the Russian-bought ads were — in terms of their content and targets — to determine whether they had any help from the Trump campaign.

The House Intelligence Committee also wants to interview the digital director for Trump's campaign, Brad Parscale, who worked closely with Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner.

Kushner was put in charge of the campaign's entire data operation and is now being scrutinized by the FBI over his contacts with Russia's ambassador and the CEO of a sanctioned Russian bank in December

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09/18/former-trump-campaign-chair-paul-manafort-wiretapped-by-us-investigators-report-says.html

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Former Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort wiretapped by US investigators, report says

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Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort was wiretapped by U.S. government investigators both before and after the 2016 presidential election, according to a report out Monday night.

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The wiretapping was authorized by a secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court after the FBI started to investigate Manafort, 68, in 2014, CNN reported. He's been under scrutiny over his financial dealings and lobbying efforts with pro-Russia and Ukrainian officials but has denied colluding with Russia to influence the election.

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The order to monitor Manafort was discontinued in 2016, but investigators obtained another FISA warrant that stretched into early 2017, according to the report.

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HOW PAUL MANAFORT IS CONN...ESTIGATION

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Some of the intelligence collected during the surveillance reportedly signaled that Manafort may have pushed for Russian officials to help try to get then-candidate Donald Trump elected. However, sources told CNN the evidence was not conclusive.

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Manafort, according to the report, was not surveilled during the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting in which Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner and Manafort met with Kremlin-linked attorney Natalia Veselnitskaya.

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Manafort – who is a key figure in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russia’s involvement with the election – had his Virginia home raided in July by FBI agents who were looking for financial documents related to the election.

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The FBI took documents and other materials related to Mueller’s investigation during the raid, just one day after Manafort had voluntarily met with members of the Senate Intelligence Committee.

The raid was followed up with a warning to Manafort from Mueller’s prosecutors that they planned to indict him, The New York Times reported.

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Manafort, a longtime GOP operative who worked for former Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush, stepped down as the Trump campaign’s chairman in August 2016 amid mounting speculation surrounding his ties to Ukrainian politics.

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Warrants of this nature are difficult to come by, as the FISA court and its orders are highly secretive. Judges grant permission to surveil people they think may be working as an agent of a foreign power.

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If the CNN report is confirmed, Manafort would be the second person affiliated with the Trump campaign known to be monitored under a FISA warrant, behind former campaign adviser Carter Page.

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Manafort, who registered as a foreign agent this summer, has said his work in Ukraine was not related to the 2016 campaign.

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http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/18/politics/paul-manafort-government-wiretapped-fisa-russians/index.html

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Exclusive: US government wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman

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Washington (CNN)US investigators wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort under secret court orders before and after the election, sources tell CNN, an extraordinary step involving a high-ranking campaign official now at the center of the Russia meddling probe.

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The government snooping continued into early this year, including a period when Manafort was known to talk to President Donald Trump.
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Some of the intelligence collected includes communications that sparked concerns among investigators that Manafort had encouraged the Russians to help with the campaign, according to three sources familiar with the investigation. Two of these sources, however, cautioned that the evidence is not conclusive.
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Special counsel Robert Mueller's team, which is leading the investigation into Russia's involvement in the election, has been provided details of these communications.
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A secret order authorized by the court that handles the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) began after Manafort became the subject of an FBI investigation that began in 2014. It centered on work done by a group of Washington consulting firms for Ukraine's former ruling party, the sources told CNN.
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The surveillance was discontinued at some point last year for lack of evidence, according to one of the sources.
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The FBI then restarted the surveillance after obtaining a new FISA warrant that extended at least into early this year.
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Sources say the second warrant was part of the FBI's efforts to investigate ties between Trump campaign associates and suspected Russian operatives. Such warrants require the approval of top Justice Department and FBI officials, and the FBI must provide the court with information showing suspicion that the subject of the warrant may be acting as an agent of a foreign power.
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It is unclear when the new warrant started. The FBI interest deepened last fall because of intercepted communications between Manafort and suspected Russian operatives, and among the Russians themselves, that reignited their interest in Manafort, the sources told CNN. As part of the FISA warrant, CNN has learned that earlier this year, the FBI conducted a search of a storage facility belonging to Manafort. It's not known what they found.
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The conversations between Manafort and Trump continued after the President took office, long after the FBI investigation into Manafort was publicly known, the sources told CNN. They went on until lawyers for the President and Manafort insisted that they stop, according to the sources.
It's unclear whether Trump himself was picked up on the surveillance.
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The White House declined to comment for this story. A spokesperson for Manafort didn't comment for this story.
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The FBI also eavesdropped...arter Page, a campaign associate that then candidate Trump once identified as a national security adviser. Page's ties to Russia, including an attempt by Russian spies to cultivate him, prompted the FBI to obtain a FISA court warrant in 2014.

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Reply #20 posted 09/19/17 6:24am

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From Julian Assange on Twitter:

Trump: I was "wire tapped"

CNN: Haha. That idiot @realDonaldTrump thinks he was wiretapped.

..Six months later..
CNN: Trump was wiretapped

[Edited 9/19/17 6:24am]

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Reply #21 posted 09/19/17 6:50am

Musicslave

djThunderfunk said:

From Julian Assange on Twitter:

Trump: I was "wire tapped"

CNN: Haha. That idiot @realDonaldTrump thinks he was wiretapped.

..Six months later..
CNN: Trump was wiretapped

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Where did CNN report that Trump was wiretapped?

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Musicslave said:

Where did CNN report that Trump was wiretapped?


Assange tweeted this after CNN correspondent Pamela Brown, speaking to Don Lemon, said last night, “What is possible, Don, is that [Trump] was picked up on the Manafort surveillance and we should note that Manafort does have a residence in Trump Tower.”

Presumably, Assange's point is that if manafort was wiretapped, while speaking to trump, then trump was indeed under that surveillance.


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Reply #23 posted 09/19/17 7:37am

poppys

Musicslave said:

djThunderfunk said:

From Julian Assange on Twitter:

Trump: I was "wire tapped"

CNN: Haha. That idiot @realDonaldTrump thinks he was wiretapped.

..Six months later..
CNN: Trump was wiretapped

[Edited 9/19/17 6:24am]

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Where did CNN report that Trump was wiretapped?

Breitbart headline - CNN Admits Trump Campaign was Wiretapped - the article says it was Manafort. That's just the kind of shit they do. Fake news for people who only read the big letters.

CNN did report that Manafort was wiretapped.

https://www.reuters.com/a...SKCN1BU019

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Reply #24 posted 09/19/17 8:02am

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poppys said:

Breitbart headline - CNN Admits Trump Campaign was Wiretapped - the article says it was Manafort. That's just the kind of shit they do. Fake news for people who only read the big letters.

CNN did report that Manafort was wiretapped.

https://www.reuters.com/a...SKCN1BU019


[I thought we agreed to not quote or speak directly to one another. How hard is it to delete my quote from Musicslave's? It's not hard at all. So, when I eventually trigger you and you accuse me of trolling you... it's all on you.]

trumpclown had tweeted: "Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory." and "Is it legal for a sitting President to be "wire tapping" a race for president prior to an election?"

If manafort(ass) was indeed wire tapped at trump tower and while speaking to trumpclown during the campaign, then trumpclown's tweets have validity.

That said, for the dummies that interpret my post as pro-trumpclownm once again: fuk trump. Also, fuk manafort, fuk cnn & fuk breitbart... they're all a bunch of scumbags.



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Reply #25 posted 09/19/17 8:19am

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djThunderfunk said:

poppys said:

Breitbart headline - CNN Admits Trump Campaign was Wiretapped - the article says it was Manafort. That's just the kind of shit they do. Fake news for people who only read the big letters.

CNN did report that Manafort was wiretapped.

https://www.reuters.com/a...SKCN1BU019


[I thought we agreed to not quote or speak directly to one another. How hard is it to delete my quote from Musicslave's? It's not hard at all. So, when I eventually trigger you and you accuse me of trolling you... it's all on you.]

trumpclown had tweeted: "Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory." and "Is it legal for a sitting President to be "wire tapping" a race for president prior to an election?"

If manafort(ass) was indeed wire tapped at trump tower and while speaking to trumpclown during the campaign, then trumpclown's tweets have validity.

That said, for the dummies that interpret my post as pro-trumpclownm once again: fuk trump. Also, fuk manafort, fuk cnn & fuk breitbart... they're all a bunch of scumbags.



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Actually Trump first tweeted, "Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!" and "How low has President Obama gone to tapp my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!"

First off, Obama has no process in the FISA orders. So Trump was wrong. Secondly, Obama did not have Trump's phones tapped. So Trump was wrong. Thirdly, Trump was not being wire tapped, Manafort was. Trump was, how does the government put when innocent bystanders are caught in a gun fight, oh yes, collateral damage. Trump's tweets do not have validity. Claiming that you are the subject of the wiretapping, that something was being done to you, when you merely happened to call the subject of the wiretapping, still does not make you the subject of the wiretap.

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benni said:


Actually Trump first tweeted, "Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!" and "How low has President Obama gone to tapp my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!"

First off, Obama has no process in the FISA orders. So Trump was wrong. Secondly, Obama did not have Trump's phones tapped. So Trump was wrong. Thirdly, Trump was not being wire tapped, Manafort was. Trump was, how does the government put when innocent bystanders are caught in a gun fight, oh yes, collateral damage. Trump's tweets do not have validity. Claiming that you are the subject of the wiretapping, that something was being done to you, when you merely happened to call the subject of the wiretapping, still does not make you the subject of the wiretap.


Whatever. I'm going to sit back and laugh at the left AND the right as they play this semantics game on who/what/where, was/wasn't wiretapped... trump, manafort, trump tower...

It's all a bunch of bullshit from the fase left/right paradigm.

trumpclown's campaign was wiretapped, including at trump tower, and sometimes with trump on the line. trumpclown and cnn both look stupid bickering about the details.

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Reply #27 posted 09/19/17 8:58am

poppys

Yeah Benni, Let's not muddy the waters with Presidential tweets, lol.

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Reply #28 posted 09/19/17 9:55am

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trumpclown claimed he, his campaign and trump tower were wiretapped by obama.

It's confirmed that his campaign and trump tower were indeed wiretapped, but, not him personally and not by obama himself.

Getting bent out of shape about the semantic details is just goofy.

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Reply #29 posted 09/19/17 1:36pm

Musicslave

djThunderfunk said:

trumpclown claimed he, his campaign and trump tower were wiretapped by obama.

It's confirmed that his campaign and trump tower were indeed wiretapped, but, not him personally and not by obama himself.

Getting bent out of shape about the semantic details is just goofy.

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