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Thread started 07/24/17 12:47pm

COMPUTERBLUE19
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Microchips in employees (news article)

I never really come to this P&R section in my 13 years at the Org (other than to lurk and see the madness that ensues), but came across this article and was a bit taken. Not sure what to say about this, but I would be adamantly against bio technology as it relates to the workplace. Seems like an infringement upon one's personal rights and opens a Pandora's box of ethical/other issues.

It appears that the company has the notion that this may be the direction that companies may go in the future and it already is here, albeit on a smaller scale (Fingerprint scan option on IPhone's and the like). Although optional, employees may "opt" for this to have access to buy food and scan/clock into work. Once again, this seems like its opening a door to a road of problems later.

What do you all think? Thanks for your contributions!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/...spartanntp

[Edited 7/24/17 12:48pm]

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Reply #1 posted 07/24/17 12:51pm

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I wouldn't do it to my employees nor would I let a company do it to me.

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Reply #2 posted 07/24/17 1:01pm

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RodeoSchro said:

I wouldn't do it to my employees nor would I let a company do it to me.

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Sorry I couldn't hyperlink the article.

As it relates to the story: I feel like this is truly the direction some companies may go.

Hypothetically speaking, I can see that as a condition of pre-employment (as an addendum to drug screenings and the like.

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Reply #3 posted 07/24/17 3:23pm

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RodeoSchro said:

I wouldn't do it to my employees nor would I let a company do it to me.

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Reply #4 posted 07/24/17 3:58pm

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What's shocking is the right never complains about it.

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Reply #5 posted 07/24/17 4:03pm

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Reason # 768386489 why I am not cut out for corporate life and will probably always be self-employed. I drove trucks for years with gps tracking. That was enough.

My dogs are microchipped, though. I never even asked them how they felt about it. I am probably a hypocrite, but those dumbasses clam up whenever anyone asks them for their names or contact info.
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Reply #6 posted 07/24/17 5:42pm

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COMPUTERBLUE1984 said:

I never really come to this P&R section in my 13 years at the Org (other than to lurk and see the madness that ensues), but came across this article and was a bit taken. Not sure what to say about this, but I would be adamantly against bio technology as it relates to the workplace. Seems like an infringement upon one's personal rights and opens a Pandora's box of ethical/other issues.

It appears that the company has the notion that this may be the direction that companies may go in the future and it already is here, albeit on a smaller scale (Fingerprint scan option on IPhone's and the like). Although optional, employees may "opt" for this to have access to buy food and scan/clock into work. Once again, this seems like its opening a door to a road of problems later.

What do you all think? Thanks for your contributions!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/...spartanntp

[Edited 7/24/17 12:48pm]

I could see the utility of such a thing, but why would they need to be implanted? Why not just put it in their pockets.

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Reply #7 posted 07/24/17 5:53pm

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

COMPUTERBLUE1984 said:

I never really come to this P&R section in my 13 years at the Org (other than to lurk and see the madness that ensues), but came across this article and was a bit taken. Not sure what to say about this, but I would be adamantly against bio technology as it relates to the workplace. Seems like an infringement upon one's personal rights and opens a Pandora's box of ethical/other issues.

It appears that the company has the notion that this may be the direction that companies may go in the future and it already is here, albeit on a smaller scale (Fingerprint scan option on IPhone's and the like). Although optional, employees may "opt" for this to have access to buy food and scan/clock into work. Once again, this seems like its opening a door to a road of problems later.

What do you all think? Thanks for your contributions!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/...spartanntp

[Edited 7/24/17 12:48pm]

I could see the utility of such a thing, but why would they need to be implanted? Why not just put it in their pockets.

it kind of smells like a big PR gag

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Reply #8 posted 07/24/17 6:17pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

I could see the utility of such a thing, but why would they need to be implanted? Why not just put it in their pockets.

it kind of smells like a big PR gag

I agree.

Or it's a gag story from The Onion or something.

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Reply #9 posted 07/24/17 6:50pm

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It has an upside and downside. Microchips could be used to monitor health or be implanted for artificial intelligence. Downsides are unlimited due to privacy issues.
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Reply #10 posted 07/24/17 6:59pm

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

It has an upside and downside. Microchips could be used to monitor health or be implanted for artificial intelligence. Downsides are unlimited due to privacy issues.

Implants are already used for medical purposes and for tracking pets and wildlife.

For work? Nefarious sounding.

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Reply #11 posted 07/24/17 7:30pm

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is it a chocolate microchip in yo neck?

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Reply #12 posted 07/25/17 8:03am

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Join ussss.

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Reply #13 posted 07/25/17 8:13am

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Reason # 768386489 why I am not cut out for corporate life and will probably always be self-employed. I drove trucks for years with gps tracking. That was enough. My dogs are microchipped, though. I never even asked them how they felt about it. I am probably a hypocrite, but those dumbasses clam up whenever anyone asks them for their names or contact info.

You can re-program the chips in pets when you move, etc. All you need is a computer and your account #. NBC Nightly News announced that the company says THEY CONTAIN NO TRACKING INFORMATION. Maybe, but they sure could.

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Reply #14 posted 07/25/17 9:29am

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poppys said:



Horsefeathers said:


Reason # 768386489 why I am not cut out for corporate life and will probably always be self-employed. I drove trucks for years with gps tracking. That was enough. My dogs are microchipped, though. I never even asked them how they felt about it. I am probably a hypocrite, but those dumbasses clam up whenever anyone asks them for their names or contact info.

You can re-program the chips in pets when you move, etc. All you need is a computer and your account #. NBC Nightly News announced that the company says THEY CONTAIN NO TRACKING INFORMATION. Maybe, but they sure could.



Tracking of employees for safety and productivity and for better job bidding and job tracking is coming for sure. The newer low power nfs and Bluetooth chips are going to make that happen. But these are going to be on badges and such.
It’s not a bad thing, it would be a great tool. But like anything else, there is possibility of abuse.
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Reply #15 posted 07/25/17 9:34am

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Badges fine. No one is embedding a transmitter of any kind in my flesh, sorry.

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Reply #16 posted 07/25/17 9:50am

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I don't even carry a tracker (cellphone), certainly wouldn't let anyone embed one under my skin.

BTW, "crazy, conspiracy theorist" Alex Jones has been warning about this for over a decade... lol

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Reply #17 posted 07/25/17 10:25am

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poppys said:



Horsefeathers said:


Reason # 768386489 why I am not cut out for corporate life and will probably always be self-employed. I drove trucks for years with gps tracking. That was enough. My dogs are microchipped, though. I never even asked them how they felt about it. I am probably a hypocrite, but those dumbasses clam up whenever anyone asks them for their names or contact info.

You can re-program the chips in pets when you move, etc. All you need is a computer and your account #. NBC Nightly News announced that the company says THEY CONTAIN NO TRACKING INFORMATION. Maybe, but they sure could.



Oh, yes, I know. I was just making fun of my dumb dogs for knowing how to tell people their contact information and therefore being forced to wear it under their skin. I realize I made it seem like I was comparing gps with microchips. Stream of consciousness. I'm the worst.

They do sell a type of dog tag equipped with gps tracking that (I think) syncs up with your phone. I considered it for my runner, but so far, reinforcing the fence and intimidation seem to be working.
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Reply #18 posted 07/25/17 10:29am

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djThunderfunk said:

I don't even carry a tracker (cellphone), certainly wouldn't let anyone embed one under my skin.

BTW, "crazy, conspiracy theorist" Alex Jones has been warning about this for over a decade... lol

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To be fair, a lotta lotta people, even more mainstream, have known this was coming for at least as long just based on the technology already existing. What seems to be the conspiracy controversy is the significance of it and at what point The Government will require it. I think people have widely accepted that this was a Coming Thing.

Plus all the people carrying on about mark of the beast and end of times and so on.
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Reply #19 posted 07/25/17 11:10am

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I guess it's a matter of how "convenient" people want things. It is out there the idea of an individual cloud which would require injecting a person with some type of nanotech, which has very limited uses today in the medical field. It's growing rapidly. Eventually, people will have a choice to make.

Me personally, I'm leery of those that brush aside the idea that such things can be hacked. Everything gets hacked, even elections. So duh, do I want anyone to have that much personal access to me, no.

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Reply #20 posted 07/25/17 11:44am

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poppys said:

You can re-program the chips in pets when you move, etc. All you need is a computer and your account #. NBC Nightly News announced that the company says THEY CONTAIN NO TRACKING INFORMATION. Maybe, but they sure could.

Oh, yes, I know. I was just making fun of my dumb dogs for knowing how to tell people their contact information and therefore being forced to wear it under their skin. I realize I made it seem like I was comparing gps with microchips. Stream of consciousness. I'm the worst. They do sell a type of dog tag equipped with gps tracking that (I think) syncs up with your phone. I considered it for my runner, but so far, reinforcing the fence and intimidation seem to be working.

Yeah Horsefeathers, I did get the joke. cool My Iris wouldn't tell anyone her information either. She's really really beautiful but kind of a bitch.

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Reply #21 posted 07/25/17 11:46am

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I keep wanting and forgetting to buy one of those little tags you attach to things so you can find them. I think they are called Tile.

remember about them when I can find my keys.
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Reply #22 posted 07/25/17 12:49pm

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

I keep wanting and forgetting to buy one of those little tags you attach to things so you can find them. I think they are called Tile. remember about them when I can find my keys.

there is one called XY i guess it is because men lose more stuff...

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Reply #23 posted 07/25/17 3:26pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

is it a chocolate microchip in yo neck?

And...

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Reply #24 posted 07/25/17 3:27pm

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poppys said:

Badges fine. No one is embedding a transmitter of any kind in my flesh, sorry.

Could be difficult if it comes to eating or not that is if one is "Left Behind"... eye crysball

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Reply #25 posted 07/25/17 3:35pm

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poppys said:

Badges fine. No one is embedding a transmitter of any kind in my flesh, sorry.

Could be difficult if it comes to eating or not that is if one is "Left Behind"... eye crysball

Yeah, you're scaring me. Probably too old to see that but ya neva know.

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Reply #26 posted 07/25/17 4:16pm

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the mark of the beast thing is a legit question. I had (a radical) preacher when i was young 8-12 (1977--1981) and he said "they" would be putting things in us for these reasons and it would start as being voluntary. Now this seems to be more of conformation bias...but still. Then again they said the same about ATM machines...when they came out with the doglegs and now the chips some people freaked out...again conformation bias...

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Reply #27 posted 07/25/17 4:21pm

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I think I read in Mexico people were putting them on voluntarily because of all the kidnappings.

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Reply #28 posted 07/25/17 4:35pm

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

I think I read in Mexico people were putting them on voluntarily because of all the kidnappings.

most of us have trackers on us...phones and gps in cars and toll both cards and other items...

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Reply #29 posted 07/25/17 4:47pm

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The Government have all our info. GPS was invented by our Government.

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