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Reply #210 posted 05/17/17 1:17am

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Reply #211 posted 05/17/17 3:32am

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"Trump scandals are now Watergate size"-----John McCain


If this plays out the way it seems to be headed... it will be bigger, IMO.

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Reply #212 posted 05/17/17 3:36am

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It is lol funny how many people are still:

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Reply #213 posted 05/17/17 3:39am

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Trump has a long history of secretly recording calls, according to former associates

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-has-a-long-history-of-secretly-recording-calls-according-to-former-associates/2017/05/12/b302b038-372d-11e7-b412-62beef8121f7_story.html?utm_term=.0718a0d9d290

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Reply #214 posted 05/17/17 3:41am

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When it comes to recording conversations, some states are “one-party consent” states, meaning that it is legal to record a conversation as long as one person involved has consented to it. That would mean that if there is a tape of Donald Trump’s conversations with James Comey, this tape would have been legal to record as long as Donald Trump was aware of it, even if James Comey wasn’t.

http://heavy.com/news/2017/05/is-it-legal-to-for-donald-trump-secretely-record-tape-conversations-washington-dc/

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Reply #215 posted 05/17/17 3:51am

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Comey is known for documenting his meetngs in memos. Especially if he thinks ther is partisan pressure being exterted on law enforecement. If there are WH recordings then they should immediatley hand them over - they will either corroborate what Comey's memo says, or exonerate 45.

If recordings exist, bring them on so the truth can surface.

Right now the chain of events looks very much like obstruction of justice - firing Sally Yates, Preet Bharara, and James Comey - and when they were fired.


In spite of what party reps think of what Comey did or didn;t do with regard to the Clinton emails, his reputation is solid as an extremely honest and credible man.

We shall see....

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Reply #216 posted 05/17/17 3:56am

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Comey is known for documenting his meetngs in memos. Especially if he thinks ther is partisan pressure being exterted on law enforecement. If there are WH recordings then they should immediatley hand them over - they will either corroborate what Comey's memo says, or exonerate 45.

If recordings exist, bring them on so the truth can surface.

Right now the chain of events looks very much like obstruction of justice - firing Sally Yates, Preet Bharara, and James Comey - and when they were fired.


In spite of what party reps think of what Comey did or didn;t do with regard to the Clinton emails, his reputation is solid as an extremely honest and credible man.

We shall see....

Trump recorded Comey. If he has a history of recording he certainly recorded Comey. He would have known his right to record secretly.

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Reply #217 posted 05/17/17 3:59am

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

Comey is known for documenting his meetngs in memos. Especially if he thinks ther is partisan pressure being exterted on law enforecement. If there are WH recordings then they should immediatley hand them over - they will either corroborate what Comey's memo says, or exonerate 45.

If recordings exist, bring them on so the truth can surface.

Right now the chain of events looks very much like obstruction of justice - firing Sally Yates, Preet Bharara, and James Comey - and when they were fired.


In spite of what party reps think of what Comey did or didn;t do with regard to the Clinton emails, his reputation is solid as an extremely honest and credible man.

We shall see....

Trump recorded Comey. If he has a history of recording he certainly recorded Comey. He would have known his right to record secretly.

Until the WH says they have a recording of the meeting Comey documented then it's all speculation. If they have a recording that directly refutes what Comey documented, then they should produce it immediately.

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Reply #218 posted 05/17/17 4:00am

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DiminutiveRocker said:

Comey is known for documenting his meetngs in memos. Especially if he thinks ther is partisan pressure being exterted on law enforecement. If there are WH recordings then they should immediatley hand them over - they will either corroborate what Comey's memo says, or exonerate 45.

If recordings exist, bring them on so the truth can surface.

Right now the chain of events looks very much like obstruction of justice - firing Sally Yates, Preet Bharara, and James Comey - and when they were fired.


In spite of what party reps think of what Comey did or didn;t do with regard to the Clinton emails, his reputation is solid as an extremely honest and credible man.

We shall see....

UNTIL a tape surfaces! lol Then it will be that Comey he cost Hillary Clinton the election all over. Trump recorded the conversations money in the bank.

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Reply #219 posted 05/17/17 4:02am

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DiminutiveRocker said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

Trump recorded Comey. If he has a history of recording he certainly recorded Comey. He would have known his right to record secretly.

Until the WH says they have a recording of the meeting Comey documented then it's all speculation. If they have a recording that directly refutes what Comey documented, then they should produce it immediately.

And Comey sat on those notes. lol

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Reply #220 posted 05/17/17 4:04am

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

Comey is known for documenting his meetngs in memos. Especially if he thinks ther is partisan pressure being exterted on law enforecement. If there are WH recordings then they should immediatley hand them over - they will either corroborate what Comey's memo says, or exonerate 45.

If recordings exist, bring them on so the truth can surface.

Right now the chain of events looks very much like obstruction of justice - firing Sally Yates, Preet Bharara, and James Comey - and when they were fired.


In spite of what party reps think of what Comey did or didn;t do with regard to the Clinton emails, his reputation is solid as an extremely honest and credible man.

We shall see....

UNTIL a tape surfaces! lol Then it will be that Comey he cost Hillary Clinton the election all over. Trump recorded the conversations money in the bank.

You are speculating (and hoping) but there has been no formal announcement from the WH that they have a recordng of Comey which refutes what he said Trump said "I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, letting Flynn go. He's a good guy, I hope that you can let this go."

If "letting go" means stop investigating - then it's possibly an obstruction of justice at the very worst, and at least extremely inappropriate which exposes deep dysfuntion in the WH and could further damage 45 and his administrations credibility as well as the party's.

It's a lose lose.


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Reply #221 posted 05/17/17 4:12am

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DiminutiveRocker said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

UNTIL a tape surfaces! lol Then it will be that Comey he cost Hillary Clinton the election all over. Trump recorded the conversations money in the bank.

You are speculating (and hoping) but there has been no formal announcement from the WH that they have a recordng of Comey which refutes what he said Trump said "I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, letting Flynn go. He's a good guy, I hope that you can let this go."

If "letting go" means stop investigating - then it's obstruction of justice.

Can you post a link to the recording?

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Reply #222 posted 05/17/17 4:18am

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

You are speculating (and hoping) but there has been no formal announcement from the WH that they have a recordng of Comey which refutes what he said Trump said "I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, letting Flynn go. He's a good guy, I hope that you can let this go."

If "letting go" means stop investigating - then it's obstruction of justice.

Can you post a link to the recording?

I do not know anything about a recording - but the quote (being used by all news outlets) is in this article from your favorite:

http://www.foxnews.com/po...back.html

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Reply #223 posted 05/17/17 4:24am

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

Can you post a link to the recording?

I do not know anything about a recording - but the quote (being used by all news outlets) is in this article from your favorite:

http://www.foxnews.com/po...back.html

Is this quote from the memos? or some notes of Comeys? Still no "tapes" biggrin ?

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Reply #224 posted 05/17/17 4:28am

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It bears repeating: If "letting go" means stop investigating - then it's possibly an obstruction of justice at the very worst, and at the least it is extremely inappropriate which exposes further the deep dysfuntion in the WH and could further damage 45 and his administration's credibility as well as his party's.

It's a lose lose any way you look at it.

Comey may testify. Comey has a reputation of being honest.


The chips will fall where they may.


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Reply #225 posted 05/17/17 4:29am

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So all you have are some writing from some worker that was placed into office from the Obama administration? No recordings!? lol

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Reply #226 posted 05/17/17 4:35am

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DiminutiveRocker said:

It bears repeating: If "letting go" means stop investigating - then it's possibly an obstruction of justice at the very worst, and at the least it is extremely inappropriate which exposes further the deep dysfuntion in the WH and could further damage 45 and his administration's credibility as well as his party's.

It's a lose lose any way you look at it.

Comey may testify. Comey has a reputation of being honest.


The chips will fall where they may.


shrug

I would imagine if he really did have the conversation, Comey could have easily been wired and recorded Trump not knowing and brought up the subject again and getting an actual recording of Trumps begging?! But I'm not a lawyer and that makes too much sense. LOL

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Reply #227 posted 05/17/17 4:41am

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As for the Intl Sharing - thread topic - C.I.A. Director Pompeo briefed the House Intelligrnce committee on the info 45 shared with the Russians....what did he say?

http://www.businessinsider.com/cia-director-mike-pompeo-brief-house-intelligence-committee-2017-5

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Reply #228 posted 05/17/17 4:59am

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Russia claims to have transcript of Trump meeting with Lavrov

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/17/politics/russia-us-trump-lavrov-intel/index.html?adkey=bn

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and they would like to share it with Congress!

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Reply #229 posted 05/17/17 5:03am

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Russia claims to have transcript of Trump meeting with Lavrov

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/17/politics/russia-us-trump-lavrov-intel/index.html?adkey=bn --

and they would like to share it with Congress!


Thw WH should hand over the transcripts. But it's cute that Putin would come to 45s rescue touched

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DiminutiveRocker said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

Russia claims to have transcript of Trump meeting with Lavrov

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/17/politics/russia-us-trump-lavrov-intel/index.html?adkey=bn --

and they would like to share it with Congress!


Thw WH should hand over the transcripts. But it's cute that Putin would come to 45s rescue touched

Rescue? LOL! It will all depend on the meat of the transcript and recordings that Trump likely sitting on. Motherfucker I count the days.

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Reply #231 posted 05/17/17 5:11am

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

DiminutiveRocker said:


Thw WH should hand over the transcripts. But it's cute that Putin would come to 45s rescue touched

Rescue? LOL! It will all depend on the meat of the transcript and recordings that Trump likely sitting on. Motherfucker I count the days.


Since only the Russina media was present - it's absolutley adorabe that Putin is stickng up for his buddy and prop him up - if he is even serious. Trump Putin Flynn - BFFs. heart

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Reply #232 posted 05/17/17 5:21am

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DiminutiveRocker said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

Rescue? LOL! It will all depend on the meat of the transcript and recordings that Trump likely sitting on. Motherfucker I count the days.


Since only the Russina media was present - it's absolutley adorabe that Putin is stickng up for his buddy and prop him up - if he is even serious. Trump Putin Flynn - BFFs. heart

You are right Dim! It is always good to get recordings when speaking to the Russians about destroying ISIS.

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Reply #233 posted 05/17/17 5:42am

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

DiminutiveRocker said:


Since only the Russina media was present - it's absolutley adorabe that Putin is stickng up for his buddy and prop him up - if he is even serious. Trump Putin Flynn - BFFs. heart

You are right Dim! It is always good to get recordings when speaking to the Russians about destroying ISIS.

What's Russia done so far... to destroy ISIS? Do you consider Russia an ally?

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Reply #234 posted 05/17/17 5:48am

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YES BUT ULTIMATELY THEY REPORTED IT WAS ISRAEL FROM A PRIVATE CONVERSATION BETWEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP AND OTHER LEADERS TRYING TO FIGHT ISIS. PEOPLE WILL GET KILLED! CNN DID NOTHING WRONG. FUCK YOU! lol

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and they are reporting on where the intel came from and said it could place Americans in danger. CNN has no blood on it's hands they didn't disclose all of a private conversation!! lol

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Posting in headline font does not make what you say more true or valid. I hope you see clear to let this go, let it go.

Again - what has Russia done to destroy ISIS?






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Reply #237 posted 05/17/17 6:00am

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The Dept of Justice falls in general under the executive branch but it is also independent, and the president historically has some discretion to set some priorities to the various law enforcement agencies, however, it is not appropriate to dictate or even attempt to influence ongoing investigations especially ones that the POTUS may be connected. I do not think anyone here would dispute that.

To interfere with an investigation by political pressure or threats, even hints or suggestions are not appropriate. To say, under many situations, "I hope you can let this go." Could be taken as such. Or it might have been wishful thinking or Trump's way of saying "I am handling it." As Flynn was fired that next day (If I am not mistaken) it could be more of Trump's opinion (which I think in general he is allowed to give) that there is not a reason to take it any further. That is until the case is not dropped and there is some political backlash--such as getting fired.

Even if there is no crime by Flynn (and I highly doubt there is) as the saying goes "the cover-up is often worse than the act."


All that said, I doubt there will be an impeachment over this. Not now, not ever. Now in 2019 if there is a Democrat congress they may find, or trump up if need be grounds...but even then it will not be successful.

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Reply #238 posted 05/17/17 6:01am

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Trump called Israel's PM last night..........

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DiminutiveRocker said:

Posting in headline font does not make what you say more true or valid. I hope you see clear to let this go, let it go.

You agree just writing something down on paper doesn't prove something happened. Show us the "tapes"

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