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Thread started 04/03/17 12:57pm

2freaky4church
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Rachel Dolezal is back. Says she is trans-black.

No, you are white Rachel. Be down, be an ally, but you are a white girl, albeit with a hot ass.

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Reply #1 posted 04/03/17 12:57pm

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2Elijah, tell her off.

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Reply #2 posted 04/03/17 1:39pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

2Elijah, tell her off.


Lol.. She's crazy. What's up with her self-hatred?
[Edited 4/3/17 13:40pm]
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Reply #3 posted 04/03/17 1:56pm

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Trans-black? LOL

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Reply #4 posted 04/03/17 2:04pm

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maybe people said that as a bit of a joke back then...that she was trans-ethnic.

I have also seen people say "I identify as rich... I am trans-rich... and I demand the bank honor my million dollar check!"


which is more of a dig at the idea that you can just deem yourself to be something you are not. Gender issue aside (which is something I am accepting of not that I understand but whatever) a person is what they are... and we ought not coddle people who want to be something they are not.

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Reply #5 posted 04/03/17 2:08pm

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I so want to say it. lol

Only, why do you temp me?

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Reply #6 posted 04/03/17 2:09pm

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Wait, we are all African. I want my 40 acres.

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Reply #7 posted 04/03/17 2:28pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Wait, we are all African. I want my 40 acres.


Not in culture. You identify as white, and belong to an European, ethnic group. 'Many'of your people had plenty of acres, and freedom, and benefit from white privilege, as Rachel.
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Reply #8 posted 04/03/17 2:49pm

Dasein

Sigh . . . as usual . . .

. . . everybody wants to "be" Black. But nobody wants to be Black.

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Reply #9 posted 04/03/17 3:08pm

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I am trans-funky. As we all are.

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Reply #10 posted 04/03/17 3:20pm

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I'm poor as fuck.

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Reply #11 posted 04/03/17 3:28pm

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My perspective, she can claim anything she wants, she just can't lead the charge. It is what it is. Maybe she'd serve better writing a book on her journey or something. It definitely is a new point of view.

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Reply #12 posted 04/03/17 3:36pm

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Here she is:

She is trying to confuse the cops.

Rachel X.

https://www.youtube.com/w...uENtv9kicI

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Reply #13 posted 04/03/17 3:41pm

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morningsong said:

My perspective, she can claim anything she wants, she just can't lead the charge. It is what it is. Maybe she'd serve better writing a book on her journey or something. It definitely is a new point of view.


White people loving Black American culture and wanting to be Black is not a new point of view. But
you cannot claim anything you want in this case with any justification. She errs when she comports
herself as being a Black American, but I don't have a problem with her infatuation with our culture.

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Reply #14 posted 04/03/17 3:45pm

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We admire the culture but loathe the people.

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Reply #15 posted 04/03/17 3:46pm

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Yeah, that's great and all, but she could easily wake up tomorrow morning and decide that being black is just too hard and decide not to be black anymore which seems kind of the opposite of a genuine black experience. I so don't buy the comparisons to transgender issues.
Murica: at least it's not Sudan.
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Reply #16 posted 04/03/17 3:53pm

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Dasein said:

morningsong said:

My perspective, she can claim anything she wants, she just can't lead the charge. It is what it is. Maybe she'd serve better writing a book on her journey or something. It definitely is a new point of view.


White people loving Black American culture and wanting to be Black is not a new point of view. But
you cannot claim anything you want in this case with any justification. She errs when she comports
herself as being a Black American, but I don't have a problem with her infatuation with our culture.



Those lines in our American culture are so strongly define. But those lines are not seen the same way across the world, I understand. So with that in mind, she, as an individual can claim what she wants, in my book. It's going to be frowned upon because there's no presidence for this, there's a history that isn't resolved. The reverse was downright illegal not too long ago. Probably still is. And that alone creates a whole other can of worms that's not ready to be dealt with. The biggest problem came because she wasn't honest about her history, and was head of an organization that has a history of being in the forefront of Black American progression. Not a wise move at all.

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Reply #17 posted 04/03/17 4:08pm

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morningsong said:

Dasein said:


White people loving Black American culture and wanting to be Black is not a new point of view. But
you cannot claim anything you want in this case with any justification. She errs when she comports
herself as being a Black American, but I don't have a problem with her infatuation with our culture.



Those lines in our American culture are so strongly define. But those lines are not seen the same way across the world, I understand. So with that in mind, she, as an individual can claim what she wants, in my book. It's going to be frowned upon because there's no presidence for this, there's a history that isn't resolved. The reverse was downright illegal not too long ago. Probably still is. And that alone creates a whole other can of worms that's not ready to be dealt with. The biggest problem came because she wasn't honest about her history, and was head of an organization that has a history of being in the forefront of Black American progression. Not a wise move at all.


Yeah, but with her peculiar cultural comportment, i.e., acting and posing as a Black American, you do
view her as being humanly disingenuous, don't you? I mean, your argument here, it's very sympa-
thetic, which is nice, is almost like telling a pathological liar he has a right to lie to me. Yes, in a
sense he does; he can say whatever the hell he wants to me. But, at what cost to his family and
friends and his community must we put up with his purposeful prevarication? At some point, he has
to be made aware that his rights to lie has an adverse impact on his interpersonal and social inter-
actions and relationships.

If US history wasn't littered with white Americans treating us like we were sub-human and denigrat-
ing our culture whilst hypocritically pilfering from it and appropriating it recklessly, I may feel differ-
ently about this. But, in this particular case, Rachel Dolezal cannot claim anything she wants with me
although I do view her sympathetically too.

I'm a psychotherapist by trade and can't help but to wonder if she's exhibiting some DI stuff, with a cultural

component.

[Edited 4/3/17 16:10pm]

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Reply #18 posted 04/03/17 4:31pm

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Dasein said:

morningsong said:



Those lines in our American culture are so strongly define. But those lines are not seen the same way across the world, I understand. So with that in mind, she, as an individual can claim what she wants, in my book. It's going to be frowned upon because there's no presidence for this, there's a history that isn't resolved. The reverse was downright illegal not too long ago. Probably still is. And that alone creates a whole other can of worms that's not ready to be dealt with. The biggest problem came because she wasn't honest about her history, and was head of an organization that has a history of being in the forefront of Black American progression. Not a wise move at all.


Yeah, but with her peculiar cultural comportment, i.e., acting and posing as a Black American, you do
view her as being humanly disingenuous, don't you? I mean, your argument here, it's very sympa-
thetic, which is nice, is almost like telling a pathological liar he has a right to lie to me. Yes, in a
sense he does; he can say whatever the hell he wants to me. But, at what cost to his family and
friends and his community must we put up with his purposeful prevarication? At some point, he has
to be made aware that his rights to lie has an adverse impact on his interpersonal and social inter-
actions and relationships.

If US history wasn't littered with white Americans treating us like we were sub-human and denigrat-
ing our culture whilst hypocritically pilfering from it and appropriating it recklessly, I may feel differ-
ently about this. But, in this particular case, Rachel Dolezal cannot claim anything she wants with me
although I do view her sympathetically too.

I'm a psychotherapist by trade and can't help but to wonder if she's exhibiting some DI stuff, with a cultural

component.

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That's the meat of it, her being disingenious in the beginning about where she came from. That's the problem. If you know the history of this country, a race statement isn't a light statement to make, it comes loaded with a whole lot of baggage. One can't skip the baggage attached. In that, her mental health does get called into question and she should be well aware of why it would be and be willing to met that challenge head on, which is not what she personally did.

I'm really not being nice, I'm trying to step back and look at it as a whole. In other countries, there is not that 1 drop of blood law that got people abused, maimed and killed if not obeyed in this country, or it worked in somekind of reverse fashion where 1 drop of white blood meant something different.

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Reply #19 posted 04/03/17 4:47pm

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Dasein said:


White people loving Black American culture and wanting to be Black is not a new point of view.


Finally you write something with which I can agree! It's no secret that black is where it's at, the pendulum has swung all the way to the other side as quality of life is much better for people of color. Still though, Rachel is a damn fool for what she did. Like the interviewer said, she can fight the fight and still be white.

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Reply #20 posted 04/03/17 9:05pm

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She lied about her race.

People do that all the time.

The problem with getting caught in a lie is that it harms your credibility.

But they say that there is no such thing as bad publicity, so it will help sell her book.







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Reply #21 posted 04/03/17 9:36pm

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No one mentioned she's legally changed her name to Nkechi Amare Diallo.

She later said she never claimed to be 'transracial'. It's a term usually associated with transracial adoption.

She also said she still intends to use the name Rachel Dolezal "as her public persona," but that she changed her name to have a better chance of landing work from employers who might not be interested in hiring the controversial Rachel Dolezal

As of F
ebruary 2017, she was on food stamps, estranged from most of her friends, and on the brink of homelessness after having no success in finding another job.

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QueenofCardboard said:


The problem with getting caught in a lie is that it harms your credibility.


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Reply #23 posted 04/04/17 2:18am

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purplepoppy said:

Trans-black? LOL




it's like trans fat.

When fat people call themselves thin, it's not real fat that covers their body, but trans fat.

Yes, I've probably made a spelling mistake, but I can't be arsed to go back and correc tit.
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Reply #24 posted 04/04/17 4:19am

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Trans-Black is an acceptable term..So it is written, so it shall be done....

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Reply #25 posted 04/04/17 7:10am

Dasein

Pokeno4Money said:

Dasein said:


White people loving Black American culture and wanting to be Black is not a new point of view.


Finally you write something with which I can agree! It's no secret that black is where it's at, the pendulum has swung all the way to the other side as quality of life is much better for people of color. Still though, Rachel is a damn fool for what she did. Like the interviewer said, she can fight the fight and still be white.


Please clarify this for one could read it as you suggesting that being Black is preferable to being
white, or not Black. Or, are you suggesting that quality of life has improved for Black people as
compared only to Black people in the past?

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2freaky4church1 said:

I'm poor as fuck.



I can show you how to fix that.

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Reply #27 posted 04/04/17 7:30am

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rIGHT.

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Reply #28 posted 04/04/17 7:37am

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Ok, I can't.

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Reply #29 posted 04/04/17 7:39am

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Nobody can. lol

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