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Thread started 03/13/17 2:29pm

2freaky4church
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CBO numbers are out on Trumpcare and it is awful.

omg

http://www.huffingtonpost...4obt9&

24 million more uninsured. Higher prices for insurance. Ending Medicare, which will kill the poor. Bring back Obamacare now pleassssssssssseeeeeee.

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Reply #1 posted 03/13/17 3:15pm

Ingela

Republican death panels. They are they ones really pushing death panels. I personally know of a handful of people who with the expanded Medicare option, were not scared to go to the doctor and be potentially in debt for life and received life saving care that they wouldn't have previously.

The insane part, before Obamacare, people without healthcare flooded the emergency rooms and raised personal and hospital debt and lost lives. Honestly this is real death panels and the republicans will have real blood on their hands if the poor lose their healthcare.
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Reply #2 posted 03/13/17 5:50pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

omg

http://www.huffingtonpost...4obt9&

24 million more uninsured. Higher prices for insurance. Ending Medicare, which will kill the poor. Bring back Obamacare now pleassssssssssseeeeeee.


Yeah just like Hillary will win in a landslide, the stock market will collapse blahblah


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Reply #3 posted 03/14/17 12:57am

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Pokeno4Money said:


2freaky4church1 said:


omg


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/24-million-more-uninsured-under-gop-obamacare-replacement_us_58c6ebb2e4b0598c6698b098?dw8jqotcy8z4obt9&

24 million more uninsured.

Higher prices for insurance.

Ending Medicare, which will kill the poor.

Bring back Obama-care now pleassssssssssseeeeeee.




Yeah just like Hillary will win in a landslide,

the stock market will collapse

blahblah




Do you have health insurance?



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Reply #4 posted 03/14/17 3:37am

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If this passes I will lose mine. I'm so pissed. My state was actually getting somewhere with the ACA and expanded Medicaid. This is a terrible backslide that will cost lives and hurt children.

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Paul Ryan talking point that this is about American Freedom. The freedom to choose NOT to have healthcare. WTF? I wanna strangle him everytime he says that.

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Reply #5 posted 03/14/17 3:49am

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Do you have health insurance?




Unlike the media and the democrats, I will give a complete answer with all the facts.

I'm on an employer-sponsored healthcare plan which costs me $200 a month in payroll deductions, but it includes a $8K deductible which means I have no coverage until I pay $8,000 each year.

Since I have yet to spend $8,000 this year, no I do NOT have health insurance.

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Reply #6 posted 03/14/17 7:34am

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Pokeno, did you see what you wrote? Are you glad you have no healthcare? What if something happens? I have zero healthcare too. Lucky I'm healthy.

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Reply #7 posted 03/14/17 8:15am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Pokeno, did you see what you wrote? Are you glad you have no healthcare? What if something happens? I have zero healthcare too. Lucky I'm healthy.

He should blame his employer for picking such a shitty plan for him and their employees. THEY choose to save money by getting a plan like that. Blame should be placed where it belongs

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Reply #8 posted 03/14/17 8:32am

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Bernie Sanders did a town hall in West Virginia, the heart of coal country and Trumpsters. They poll the audience, how many are on Medicaid. Almost everybody raises their hands? I thought it was socialism? See, they think socialism is giving stuff to poor blacks.

Sanders mentioned single payer. Huge applause. wow.

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Reply #9 posted 03/14/17 9:48am

purplepoppy

That has always been the effing lie. Truth is, social medicine doesn't discrimminate and the majority of the country is "white". As many of us have been saying, the imbeciles that voted in Trump will LOSE healthcare and medicaid faster than anybody.

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Reply #10 posted 03/14/17 10:02am

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It will take a few years, but this craptastic GOP plan might pave the way for single-payer.

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Reply #11 posted 03/14/17 3:29pm

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http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/5-remarkable-moments-bernie-sanders-town-hall-heart-coal-country

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Reply #12 posted 03/14/17 3:33pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Bernie Sanders did a town hall in West Virginia, the heart of coal country and Trumpsters. They poll the audience, how many are on Medicaid. Almost everybody raises their hands? I thought it was socialism? See, they think socialism is giving stuff to poor blacks.



Sanders mentioned single payer. Huge applause. wow.


They focused on the wrong message trump was promoting at the time of his candidacy, while he knew exactly how to con them by distracting them intentionally, about what his real intentions were going to be. If they really thought he cared for the poor/lower class, then they really didn't do much research on him.
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Reply #13 posted 03/14/17 3:40pm

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Cornel schools Hannity:

End regulations, cut taxes, that's what the poor want. haha

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Reply #14 posted 03/14/17 5:08pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Pokeno, did you see what you wrote? Are you glad you have no healthcare? What if something happens? I have zero healthcare too. Lucky I'm healthy.


If something happens, by law nobody in need of medical attention can be turned away.

No, I'm not glad Obamacare caused deductibles to skyrocket. I'd be much better off unemployed, as I would then get healthcare for free with no deductibles.

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Reply #15 posted 03/14/17 5:43pm

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Pokeno, support Single Payer bud.

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Reply #16 posted 03/14/17 6:12pm

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RodeoSchro said:

It will take a few years, but this craptastic GOP plan might pave the way for single-payer.




Yep. And if Trump wants to take credit for it when it happens like it was all a part of some greater scheme, that's just fine with me.
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Reply #17 posted 03/14/17 6:22pm

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Now I don't need to pay for Obama care and can get my cough syrup at the ER again.
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Reply #18 posted 03/14/17 7:32pm

Ingela

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Now I don't need to pay for Obama care and can get my cough syrup at the ER again.


Hope you can afford good insurance. Caugh syrup has never been been anyone's worry. So that's a douchey post you threw up on here.
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Reply #19 posted 03/14/17 11:29pm

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Pokeno4Money said:


2freaky4church1 said:


Pokeno, did you see what you wrote?

Are you glad you have no healthcare?

What if something happens?

I have zero healthcare too.

Lucky I'm healthy.



If something happens, by law nobody in need of medical attention can be turned away.

No, I'm not glad Obamacare caused deductibles to skyrocket.

I'd be much better off unemployed, as I would then get healthcare for free with no deductibles.



Unless you've got cancer.



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Reply #20 posted 03/15/17 6:07am

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Ingela said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:
Now I don't need to pay for Obama care and can get my cough syrup at the ER again.
Hope you can afford good insurance. Caugh syrup has never been been anyone's worry. So that's a douchey post you threw up on here.


yeahthat

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Reply #21 posted 03/15/17 6:07am

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QueenofCardboard said:

Pokeno4Money said:



If something happens, by law nobody in need of medical attention can be turned away.

No, I'm not glad Obamacare caused deductibles to skyrocket.

I'd be much better off unemployed, as I would then get healthcare for free with no deductibles.



Unless you've got cancer.




And yeahthat

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Reply #22 posted 03/15/17 9:00am

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It's a sad sad situation.

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Reply #23 posted 03/15/17 3:59pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Pokeno, support Single Payer bud.


Convince me why I should, I'll agree if you make a good case for it.

Post 30 one-sentence messages if you have to.

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Reply #24 posted 03/15/17 4:04pm

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QueenofCardboard said:

Pokeno4Money said:



If something happens, by law nobody in need of medical attention can be turned away.

No, I'm not glad Obamacare caused deductibles to skyrocket.

I'd be much better off unemployed, as I would then get healthcare for free with no deductibles.



Unless you've got cancer.




That's a controversial subject because there's no known cure for cancer, which makes it harder to get insurance companies to pay for treatment. But having insurance doesn't make a difference anyway.

http://www.bankrate.com/finance/insurance/insuring-costs-cancer-1.aspx

"We have a number of drugs in oncology that have been FDA-approved in the last decade or so that tend to cost around $100,000 for a year's treatment," he says. A few examples: $85,000 per year for the colon cancer drug Avastin; $92,000 for the prostate cancer drug Provenge; and $8,000 to $9,000 a month for the melanoma drug Yervoy.

Expensive new procedures such as proton beam therapy and da Vinci robotic surgery can just as easily bust a copayer.

"I get letters every week from people looking for some way to pay off a bill," Dr. Brawley says. "I get the guy who thinks he has great insurance and then his 12-year-old kid gets leukemia, and he finds out that the 20 percent copay on a $300,000 health bill is more money than he makes in a year. That's a real story."

Canosa says health insurance will typically cover medical expenses, doctor visits, hospital visits, drugs and other medications.

What it won't cover includes your deductible; the copay (a preset dollar amount you must pay each time you have a medical service); co-insurance (you pay a certain percentage of your health care costs); and of course your health insurance premium itself -- you don't want that to lapse just when you need it most.

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Reply #25 posted 03/15/17 5:31pm

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Because it is much cheaper, it covers everything; dentristry being a biggie. They take it out of your taxes so you don't pay. What could go wrong.

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Reply #26 posted 03/16/17 4:53pm

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How they couldn't have a replacement plan after 7 years.....they never had one and the American public fell for the con. Now they are going to kill as many people as possible so that the "healthcare" insustry can once again profit profit profit vs give the citizens of the country what they are paying for...healthcare.

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Reply #27 posted 03/16/17 4:58pm

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Pokeno4Money said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Pokeno, did you see what you wrote? Are you glad you have no healthcare? What if something happens? I have zero healthcare too. Lucky I'm healthy.


If something happens, by law nobody in need of medical attention can be turned away.

No, I'm not glad Obamacare caused deductibles to skyrocket. I'd be much better off unemployed, as I would then get healthcare for free with no deductibles.


And you'd be starving and homeless.

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Reply #28 posted 03/17/17 5:05am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

How they couldn't have a replacement plan after 7 years.....they never had one and the American public fell for the con. Now they are going to kill as many people as possible so that the "healthcare" insustry can once again profit profit profit vs give the citizens of the country what they are paying for...healthcare.


^ in a nutshell. nod

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Reply #29 posted 03/17/17 8:16am

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We were too easy on Gruber.

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