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Reply #150 posted 03/18/17 6:52pm

Pokeno4Money

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Dasein said:

Pokeno4Money said:


Well said!


Yeah, it's "well said" if you're a Christian who sits in judgment of other people who aren't living up
to your own standards of righteousness.

Christians appear to be the ones who are the quickest to condemn people and/or point out their
supposed flaws when Jesus of Nazareth, the guy who hung out with reprobates, appeared to be
the slowest to do so.


"Let He who is without sin cast the first stone."

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Reply #151 posted 03/18/17 7:57pm

Dasein

Monarch said:

Dasein said:


"I love you regardless of . . . " is not too much different from "I love you but . . . "

Shouldn't Christians just say "I love you" with no other qualifiers or sentence components added
onto? Even "I love you for no good reason" could be suggesting that there could be a reason for
you to not love me, otherwise why mention a reason in the first place?

Is it me, or do many Christians have pre-requisites for loving someone completely and unapologeti-
cally? Jesus of Nazareth appeared to love everyone as such; I don't remember him ever saying
anything like: "I love you regardless of . . ."; "I love you but . . . "; or, "I love you for no good rea-
son." That mutherfucker said:

"Love God. And love your neighbor as yourself."

He ain't say nothing about loving somebody for no reason or any reason or because of a context
which could suggest you have the right to not love them but because of the grandeur of your heart,
(pride), you're looking past it in extending love towards them.

Your very correct. I think maybe the fleash brain is trying to offer proof. As far as can someone love Manson....Most would agree that upon knowing the Carnage that he brought on the inocent along with the bloody pictures circulated by media, loving Charles Manson, Hitler, Bin Laden and others will test the ends of the capabilities of agape love among humans. If given the opportunity to look these men in the eye & then be reminded to love them, I think my brain will first notice my fear of being in they're presence. My first human reaction would probably be my own safety. Having said that, I honestly believe YHWH is capable of breaking my heart. & Bring us to a place of loving someone like them. As for me? Yeah I think Hitler is worth trying to help him. If we had the capabilities of taking a team of high caliber behavioral health doctor back in time to his childhood I'd say he's worth it. But someone would say we're just doing that to stop the Holocaust. Then pick any random child molester story on the internet. I wouldn't be physically afraid to meet them. There is a possibility that the Holy Spirit might have to work on me during the drive over but honestly I think I can do it. Again someone is gonna accuse that I'm just trying to be holier than thou, as stated before the point of this thread was to show that there is something better out there than our normal capabilities. & Walking up to a stranger & saying I love you & they're actually telling the truth is possible.


I enjoyed reading this post.

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Reply #152 posted 03/19/17 6:05am

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Pokeno4Money said:

"Let He who is without sin cast the first stone."

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A quote from a pericope that was probably not even part of the original version of the Gospel of John.

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Reply #153 posted 03/19/17 6:42am

Dasein

toejam said:

The idea that I should love Charles Manson seems silly to me.


Why?

Couldn't Christians argue that a radical love offered to him by another human is transformative
and/or redemptive for both parties as God loves Manson despite his shortcomings? In the Bible,
Jesus would sit with Manson before he sat with the pope.

And again: most of this hinges on the type of love being extended or practiced.

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Reply #154 posted 03/19/17 6:45am

Dasein

Pokeno4Money said:

Dasein said:


Yeah, it's "well said" if you're a Christian who sits in judgment of other people who aren't living up
to your own standards of righteousness.

Christians appear to be the ones who are the quickest to condemn people and/or point out their
supposed flaws when Jesus of Nazareth, the guy who hung out with reprobates, appeared to be
the slowest to do so.


"Let He who is without sin cast the first stone."


What the hell're you talking about?

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